GRiselda Blanco Netflix

[playahaitian]

I need proof because the version I’ve seen doesn’t seem possible. You can tell an old person that used to be attractive ie Martha Stewart but Griselda has a crazy ass face shape and was ugly. Bih looks like a garbage pale kid

You seen the pictures bro. See the interviews, docs and professional researchers and investigations

I don't know what to tell you

But whoring since you hit puberty crack coke hard drinking bad living bad diet and stress?

That's what you gonna end up with 100% of the time.

 

[REDLINE]

Yo she gave her all in every scene bro. Made sure she had those "speeches" to rally the troops. The fits, drugs, paranoia, yelling, screaming, she worked.

Was this PROJECT good? No

But it didn't suck.

And she worked hard to get this project up and running. And carried this thing.

And smoked those clove cigarettes like a chimney

Man I'm just talking shit, she did an excellent job.

I have one more episode to go and I liked the project.

 

[playahaitian]

Man I'm just talking shit, she did an excellent job.

I have one more episode to go and I liked the project.

I KNOW

I miss Narcos like a fiend.

And I WANTED this to be successfully received and it was. She was great.

But it was SO CLOSE to being epic. And that's the disappointment

But it was close enough to great that I enjoyed the ride.

Sidebar: Sofia should had just one nude scene just to let these hoes know she still got it.

 

[playahaitian]

Sofia made sure every single women in this was fine as f*ck.

 

[playahaitian]

Was there even one black person in this entire series before the last episode?

 

[playahaitian]

Sidebar...

Janice>>>>>

But Lock the damn door

 

[REDLINE]

Was there even one black person in this entire series before the last episode?

When she got all the coke dealers together to work under her there was at least one of us in that room.

Other than that I don't remember seeing any of us.

 

[playahaitian]

When she got all the coke dealers together to work under her there was at least one of us in that room.

Other than that I don't remember seeing any of us.

Yeah yeah

A low level drug dealer in one scene with one line never seen again.

Progress.

 

[REDLINE]

I KNOW

I miss Narcos like a fiend.

And I WANTED this to be successfully received and it was. She was great.

But it was SO CLOSE to being epic. And that's the disappointment

But it was close enough to great that I enjoyed the ride.

Sidebar: Sofia should had just one nude scene just to let these hoes know she still got it.

After a quick check on the internet, it seems like people are loving it based on reviews.

It seems like only those comparing it to previous shows are the ones having an issues with it .

 

[playahaitian]

After a quick check on the internet, it seems like people are loving it based on reviews.

It seems like only those comparing it to previous shows are the ones having an issues with it .

Hmmm

You know what that's fair.

If I never saw the documentaries?

And ALL the Narcos stuff?

This would be the best Narco soap opera ever.

 

[playahaitian]

Why did Dario stay at his mother's place?

Even after he knew people found out?

 

[playahaitian]

Griselda was released in 2004 and killed in 2012

 

[neptunes007]

All she did was smoke cigarettes and keep showing us her bad teeth

No lies told

 

[neptunes007]

So i watched this twice

Compared to series about criminals like: The Serpent, Narcos S1 & 2, Dahmer, or Narcos Mexico: S1 and 2, or El Chapo, this Griselda show was meh. In another thread I gave it a 5/10.

I’m giving benefit of the doubt that the strike might have hindered this production (I could be wrong) which could be why there are so many holes in the story. The Blanco story deserves a real beginning and real ending which would take 2 to 3 seasons to tell.

If Sofia actually put on the weight I would believe she was Griselda rather than watching Gloria trying to play Griselda.

overall it’s still a good show, and worth the download.

 

[TENT]

So i watched this twice

Compared to series about criminals like: The Serpent, Narcos S1 & 2, Dahmer, or Narcos Mexico: S1 and 2, or El Chapo, this Griselda show was meh. In another thread I gave it a 5/10.

I’m giving benefit of the doubt that the strike might have hindered this production (I could be wrong) which could be why there are so many holes in the story. The Blanco story deserves a real beginning and real ending which would take 2 to 3 seasons to tell.

If Sofia actually put on the weight I would believe she was Griselda rather than watching Gloria trying to play Griselda.

overall it’s still a good show, and worth the download.

She is an older woman. She know if she put on the weight she aint never getting it off and I don't blame her.
Fuck the art.

 

[REDLINE]

So i watched this twice

Compared to series about criminals like: The Serpent, Narcos S1 & 2, Dahmer, or Narcos Mexico: S1 and 2, or El Chapo, this Griselda show was meh. In another thread I gave it a 5/10.

I’m giving benefit of the doubt that the strike might have hindered this production (I could be wrong) which could be why there are so many holes in the story. The Blanco story deserves a real beginning and real ending which would take 2 to 3 seasons to tell.

If Sofia actually put on the weight I would believe she was Griselda rather than watching Gloria trying to play Griselda.

overall it’s still a good show, and worth the download.

I feel you about starting from the beginning because according to Netflix, she was born with three kids and just had to kill her husband.

 

[Ceenote]

I need proof because the version I’ve seen doesn’t seem possible. You can tell an old person that used to be attractive ie Martha Stewart but Griselda has a crazy ass face shape and was ugly. Bih looks like a garbage pale kid

 

[playahaitian]

^^^^

These dudes forgetting Nancy Reagan had half of Hollywood on they knees because she was the OG Superhead.

 

[REDLINE]

^^^^

These dudes forgetting Nancy Reagan had half if Hollywood on they needs because she was the OG Superhead.

I mean to be fair, she has a nice shape but Griselda ain't looking great face-wise in this series.

I think the guys are attracted to her power and authority.

I could be wrong though.

 

[playahaitian]

I mean to be fair, she has a nice shape but Griselda ain't looking great face-wise in this series.

I think the guys are attracted to her power and authority.

I could be wrong though.

bro...

Based on the pics we traditionally see?

Griselda looks excellente.

 

[ViCiouS]

Why did Dario stay at his mother's place?

Even after he knew people found out?

lazy writing

 

[Dr. Truth]

Meh

 

[playahaitian]

Meh

Bro 1975 to 1985?

late night club strobe lights alcohol and coke?

Dudes thought she was Iris Chacon on steriods

 

[ViCiouS]

Bro 1975 to 1985?

late night club strobe lights alcohol and coke?

Dudes thought she was Iris Chacon on steriods

plenty of dudes laid pipe just to get to the plug or more often for the tax time honey to get that beemer or benz

 

[playahaitian]

plenty of dudes laid pipe just to get to the plug or more often for the tax time honey to get that beemer or benz

Vicious aka South Beach V

 

[playahaitian]

The Fact and Fiction of Griselda’s Violent Reign​

By Kathleen Walsh, a freelance writer covering culture and entertainment.

Photo: /ELIZABETH MORRIS/NETFLIX
The catalog of infamous drug lords is as male-dominated as the entertainment genre devoted to them, but there was one woman who had to be savvier, more ambitious, and more ruthless than all of them to reach the very top of their ranks: Griselda Blanco. Netflix’s Griselda — not a spinoff but still part of the Narcos family — tells the story of how Blanco came to dominate the cocaine trade in Miami in the late 1970s and ’80s, amassing a personal fortune in the eight-figure range and a reputation for indiscriminate brutality.
Griselda attempts to humanize a figure best remembered for her propensity for violence, and so Sofia Vergara’s Griselda Blanco begins as just one woman who dared to reach for it all: the big house, the handsome husband, four healthy sons, a monopoly on Miami’s cocaine trade, the terrified awe of business rivals. But at the height of her power, Griselda is undone by a trio of personal demons: addiction, hubris, and paranoia.

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And how does the real-life Griselda Blanco measure up to this portrayal? Blanco has become such a mythic figure that the line separating fact from fiction soon becomes extremely murky. Unfortunately, Blanco really was gunned down in Colombia in 2012, as the title card at the end of the series says, so we can’t ask her directly. (There is her surviving son, Michael, but he says he was not consulted for the Netflix series and is now suing Vergara and Netflix.) So, we can’t tell you what was in Blanco’s mind as she rose up the drug lord ranks, but we can tell you that the picture you get from her non-fiction life story is somewhat less flattering than the one in Griselda. Here’s how the historical record lines up with the series’ take on the Black Widow.

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Did she really kill her husband?​

Murdering her husband, Alberto Bravo, marks the beginning of Blanco’s career as a drug queenpin. Photo: /COURTESY OF NETFLIX
In fact, she is suspected to have killed at least two of her husbands. Blanco is also alleged to have ordered the murder of her first husband and the father of her three eldest boys, Carlos Trujillo, in the early ’70s over a business dispute.
The Netflix series suggests that Griselda killed her second husband, Alberto Bravo, because he forced her to have sex with his brother, their boss, in exchange for canceling their debt. This incident compels Griselda to flee to the United States, where she starts her cocaine empire from scratch. In real life, however, it seems that Blanco and Bravo were already major players in Colombia’s cocaine smuggling underworld by that time, and I haven’t seen any evidence that Bravo forced Blanco to have sex with his brother.
Rather, Blanco suspected Bravo of being responsible for millions of missing profits from their smuggling cartel and so confronted him in a nightclub parking lot. She pulled out a pistol and opened fire, while he responded by firing a Uzi. Bravo and six bodyguards were left dead; Blanco was left with a minor wound to the stomach and full control of their cocaine smuggling empire.

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Did the party on the boat really happen?​

After being repeatedly stymied by Miami’s reigning (all-male) drug lords, in the second episode, Griselda decides to create her own turf, selling to wealthy white people. She deploys her cadre of attractive female smugglers to give out samples at country clubs, expensive gyms, golf courses, and so on. Her plan culminates in an orgiastic bacchanal on a rented yacht, which helps her woo big-time coke supplier German Panesso into partnering up with her.
Such a party may have happened (Blanco loved an orgy), but her major innovation was not tapping into the “rich white asshole” market as depicted on the show. Her biggest and most enduring contribution to the underworld was to use motorcycles for drive-by shootouts — a technique that is still widely used today.
The show does seem to have gotten some of Blanco’s clever ideas right. She did manufacture her own lingerie with pockets sewn into the linings for drug smuggling purposes, correctly assuming that attractive women would attract less suspicion than men.

The orgies, though … were they real and if so, were they seriously that dark?​

It seems so. There are lots of citations supporting the fact that Blanco loved to host absolutely bonkers, drug-fueled orgies. And yes, the forcing-folks-to-have-sex-at-gunpoint incident appears to have happened at least once. For whatever reason, the Netflix series did not include the detail of Blanco keeping a guard dog named Hitler.

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How brutal was she, really?​

There’s no getting around the fact that Griselda Blanco killed a lot of people. Most sources claim she’s responsible for somewhere between 40 and 250 murders. In the show, murder doesn’t come easily to Griselda at first. She is plagued by guilt for ordering a hit on a pair of state witnesses, and she can’t bring herself to cut the throat of a man who beheaded her best friend. She only turns to mass murder when she can’t get the Narco Boys’ Club to take her seriously any other way.
In real life, Blanco is alleged to have committed her first murder when she was still a child. According to the story, Blanco and her friends kidnapped a wealthy neighborhood family’s young son and attempted to ransom him. But when the adults didn’t take the kidnapping seriously, Blanco, then only 11 years old, shot the boy in the head.

What about the killings we do see in the show, did they really happen?​

German Jimenez Panesso was only one of the many associates and foes Blanco had murdered for crossing her. Photo: /COURTESY OF NETFLIX
In the series, Griselda retaliates against Panesso’s betrayal by having him killed as he and one other man shop for liquor at a strip mall. It’s not clear what real-life Blanco’s motivation was, but in 1979, just like in the show, three of Blanco’s soldiers drove a van with the words “happy time complete party supply” written on the side to a mall and opened fire on a liquor store where Panesso and an associate were shopping. Panesso and the associate were killed and two others were injured. The event became known as the Dadeland Mall Massacre.

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Likewise, it seems that Griselda got the accidental murder of Chucho’s toddler son mostly correct. Griselda is portrayed to be at the height of her drug addiction and paranoia when she orders Chucho killed for failing to take the blame for a murder her son committed. Rivi pulls up next to Chucho’s car and shoots, missing his target but killing the 2-year-old boy in the backseat.
In real life, two-year-old Johnny Castro was indeed killed when Jorge “Rivi” Ayala and his henchmen were aiming for his father on Blanco’s orders. It was one of the three murders Blanco actually faced charges for, over a decade later when she was serving prison time for drug charges. The charges were brought, and eventually fell apart, thanks to the same man: Rivi himself.

And speaking of Rivi…​

Would you believe that this guy blew his immunity agreement by having phone sex with a State Attorney’s secretary? Because he did! Photo: /COURTESY OF NETFLIX
Rivi, Griselda’s rival turned right-hand hitman turned informant, is an important character in Griselda. In the show, he is depicted as instrumental in fueling Griselda’s bloodlust and paranoia, but by the end of the series has agreed to testify against her rather than face the death penalty.
As it turns out, the show got a lot of his story right. Yes, including the part where he has phone sex with D.A. assistants while in prison, thus damaging his credibility as a witness against Blanco. According to CBS News, Jorge Ayala’s lawyer argued that the phone sex scandal damaged his ability to get fair treatment even decades later. “Because supposedly he made some phone calls or had some phone sex conversations with some State Attorney’s secretaries now all of a sudden they can say, ‘Well, you messed it up. You blew the agreement.’ You know everybody needs to get over that,” his attorney Jim Lewis said in 2013 after Ayala was denied an evidentiary hearing for parole. Ayala is currently still serving a life sentence.

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What other real-life figures show up in Griselda?​

• June Hawkins and Raul Diaz we both real Miami cops who worked to take down Griselda Blanco in the 1980s. When Blanco’s story was made into a play in 2019, Diaz attended the opening and told Miami New Drama, “It was well put together and very accurate. Brought back a lot of memories of those days … A lot of good and bad memories. They portrayed Rivi and Griselda very well. Rivi was like that. Is like that.” Hawkins, meanwhile, was a series consultant for Griselda.
• Papo was based on Blanco’s real-life rival, Papo Mejia. In the show, Griselda sends an assassin to cut off Papo’s head, but if you can believe it, the real-life assassination may have been even grislier. Billy Corben, the director of a documentary about Blanco called Cocaine Cowboys, told NPR that Blanco’s assassin, equipped with a vintage bayonet from World War II, was sent to stab Papo “like a pig” in the middle of Miami International Airport, which he dutifully did.
• Fabio and Jorge Ochoa, leaders of the powerful Medellin cartel, were absolutely real people who’ve been featured as starring characters in biopics of their own, including Narcos. This series depicts them as, alternately, Griselda’s most dangerous enemies and her most valuable allies, and they eventually drive her to flee Miami.

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Blanco did flee Miami at some point, but it wasn’t because the Ochoas were after her. It was her second husband, Alberto Bravo’s nephew Jaime, who wanted to kill her. Former DEA agent Bob Palombo told Maxim that after learning of his uncle’s murder, Jaime became hell-bent on revenge. “Jaime and two gunmen he’d imported from Colombia would go to the malls where Griselda spent time shopping and just wait for her,” he said. But Palombo’s team of DEA agents got her first.

What about Griselda’s friends?​

If Carmen — the character who put Griselda up when she first arrived and later laundered her money through her travel agency — or Isabela — Griselda’s best friend and partner in every meaningful sense — really existed, I haven’t been able to find any evidence of them. I also haven’t found any reference to Griselda Blanco accidentally killing Jorge Ochoa’s girlfriend, but, to be honest, keeping track of Blanco’s alleged murders is very difficult. For instance, she is also alleged to have murdered eight strippers she accused of sleeping with her third husband, Dario Sepulveda.

Does that mean Dario was real, too?​

He sure was. Dario Sepulveda and Blanco may or may not have first met when he refused to carry out his orders to murder her and killed his boss instead, as happens in Griselda. But we know that they got married in 1978 and that they eventually got into a custody dispute over Michael. Per Miami New Times, Sepulveda took young Michael Corleone to Colombia with him, where he hoped they would be safe. Unfortunately, Sepulveda was found and shot dead, and Michael was returned to Blanco.

Michael Corleone Blanco … is that his real name?​

Yes, she really did name him that.

Griselda Blanco - Wikipedia

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[playahaitian]

Here's What Happened to Griselda Blanco's Sons

Her youngest is suing Netflix.

www.menshealth.com

 

[crossovernegro]

I remember in CC I or CC II, Rivi said some shit like "I don't like black people and I won't work with them"

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Who is Rivi in Griselda, and where is he now?

Here's what you need to know about the real Jorge 'Rivi' Ayala, Griselda's right hand man who is reportedly responsible for over 30 murders

www.womanandhome.com

 

[joneblaze]

I'm four episodes in and by the middle of episode 2 I started buying into Sofia Vergaras performance as Griselda. I can tell they are pulling back on a few things by the way they structured the episodes and how they chose to write her personality but it's still entertaining to watch.

 

[crossovernegro]

so she had that pie face, double chin shit even before she got to that look that we're used to. I mean, this is better than she was later, but still....

At least in "Monster" they actually made Charlize Theron look fucked up. I think they figured for this, they'd go the Tyrion Lannister route. HBO and the producers knew Tyrion wouldn't play as well on TV if he looked like he was supposed to look.

 

[playahaitian]

 

[crossovernegro]

I believe in like 80 or 81, a class of Miami PD recruits graduated, and within 2 years, more than half were in prison.


.

 

[Flawless]

Is she supposed to look like a drag queen?

 

[Flawless]

This like like getting Mario Lopez to play El Chapo

 

[Dr. Truth]

This like like getting Mario Lopez to play El Chapo

Many say El Chapo is handsome