HBO Series: Watchmen (2019) (drops 10/20/19) Thread

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Why Questlove's Discovery About His Ancestry on Finding Your Roots Is So Unusual

BY LILY ROTHMAN
DECEMBER 12, 2017
On Tuesday night’s episode of Finding Your Roots, the Henry Louis Gates Jr.-hosted PBS celebrity genealogy show, the musician and producer Questlove (Amir Thompson) will get a chance to uncover his family’s earliest days in the United States. But, while the show always relies on surprising reveals about its subjects’ backgrounds, it turns out that Questlove’s family has a distinction that sheds light not just on those individuals but on a larger story from American history. As shown in the clip above, the musician deduces in the course of the show that he is descended from enslaved people who came to the U.S. on the schooner Clotilda (sometimes written as the Clotilde), which means they would have been part of the last known group of Africans ever brought to the United States as slaves — more than a half-century after the international slave trade was officially banned.


Sylviane A. Diouf, who has researched the Clotilda in great depth, writes in the introduction to her book Dreams of Africa in Alabama that the group comprised more than 100 individuals who arrived north of Mobile in mid-1860, having spent more than a month on the ship. Though they were not the only enslaved people brought to the U.S. after the ban on the transatlantic trade, they would eventually become some of the most famous, after many decades of being forgotten by history. A few years after their arrival in Alabama, members of that group would be among the people freed during the course of the Civil War, and many of them were able to reunite from the places to which they had been sold. But, though only a few years had passed, they could not return home to West Africa. Instead they found a way to make the place to which they had been brought in bondage into their home, founding an Alabama town called Africatown. The last survivor of the group — a man who had been extensively interviewed by Zora Neale Hurston about his experience — died in 1935, but some of the original residents’ families still live there.

The discovery of ancestors on the Clotilda isn’t just an interesting genealogical fact. As Gates says, it means that Questlove is the only African-American he knows who can answer a question that many have asked: not only where in Africa his ancestors came from, but how exactly they got to the U.S. in the first place. As shown in this second clip, provided exclusively to TIME, Questlove hit the genealogical “jackpot”:










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I figured anyone bothered by the spacing could click the link-- I've gotten enough Colin responses after taking the time to space and even bold and color code key points that it just isn't worth the effort to spoonfeed. I can't make horses drink; I think it's more than enough to point in the direction of water at this point.
I ain't gone gripe about :colin:but breaking this copy into spaced out paragraphs would go a long way. It still looks like one big sentence run on.
Thanks for dropping though.


Should we be surprised that Damon Lindelof’s Watchmen made Lady Trieu the bad guy? That a character named after Bà Triệu, a legendary third-century nationalist hero who resisted the Chinese occupation of Vietnam, must in the end be stopped by the combined efforts of two white men associated with the genocidal destruction of multiple civilian populations (the Manhattan Project, the bombing of Vietnam itself, and the squid-fall of New York)? Should we be surprised that a show which began with an airplane dropping bombs on Tulsa provides narrative closure by thwarting Trieu’s evil plans with “a gatling gun from the heavens” fired at Tulsa? (The gatling gun, briefly used in the American Civil War, and extensively used in colonial subjugation.) How did Lady Trieu, would-be avenger of colonial-violence-from-the-heavens, become the victim of yet another righteous iteration of death from the skies?

If you’re even asking these questions, it might be because you know who the real villain is. It might be that you read the original comics and recognized what they were suggesting about America, and about what having God and masked vigilantes on its side would produce: imperial expansion and conquest under an unimpeached Nixonian presidency. In our world, of course — un-blessed by the existence of superheroes — Nixon’s reign was ended by imperial overreach and executive hubris, precedents were established on the limitations of American imperial ambition and presidential corruption, and the Cold War eventually ground to a halt. But in the American superpower made by the existence of superheroes — as imagined by Dave Gibbons and some other guy who has washed his hands of the entire enterprise — a single blue line connects the KKK to the bombing of Vietnam and to the inevitability of nuclear holocaust. In the Watchmen comic, to put it simply, you know who the world’s main villain is: America.
 

Shaka54

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I figured anyone bothered by the spacing could click the link-- I've gotten enough Colin responses after taking the time to space and even bold and color code key points that it just isn't worth the effort to spoonfeed. I can't make horses drink; I think it's more than enough to point in the direction of water at this point.
Touche Bruh. :giggle:
 

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I just got one question (that hasn't been asked yet), maybe y'all can answer it:

If Ozy was emulating Alexander The Great & staying a virgin to keep himself pure & clear-minded, then why did he have a fridge full of nut (like 6 years)?

That's the only part I'm lost on.
he was a arrogant self indulgent and elietest-

he kept it because he could

he probably figured he could make even more moeny off of it once he got cloning people down - he could sell his semen off like all the other shit he sold from action figures to diet and life style books ... to commercialize and have himself reflected in even the offspring of the "smartest man in the world" means just like you see evenry thing Viedt or Pyramid industries in the world ...youd see the damn offspring of him also walking around being just as fucking "smart"



a complete side note i am STRONGLY of a mind that Manhattan isnt "dead' - in the comics , he told Ozy after Ozy tried to "destroy" him that the worlds smartest human was no more a threat to him that the worlds smartest termite.

if he is "gone" its only because he wants to be gone and maybe go off with a companion to make that new life he wants to make in another world along with someone who "gets" him .....thats Angela .
 

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Always with the gay shit, man Fuck this show. Turn a Black heroine into a fucking closet down low, with a pregnant wife. Talk about fucking up Black families :angry:
 
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I'm glad I didn't waste my time watching this because I would have been pissed off...


Don't get me wrong I want to see it but I know how these TV channels are with their bullshit.
 

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I'm glad I didn't waste my time watching this because I would have been pissed off...


Don't get me wrong I want to see it but I know how these TV channels are with their bullshit.

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I'm glad I didn't waste my time watching this because I would have been pissed off...


Don't get me wrong I want to see it but I know how these TV channels are with their bullshit.


this was always intended to be a one off... the season was written and executed as a one off contained in 9 episodes

the exec producer said it ad nauseam since the premiere

as a black man and a geek.... if you aint see the show but intend to someday...
you shouldn't be in this thread
 
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"THE MAN"

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thats not a cliffhanger...
sameway that Inception's ending isn't a cliffhanger

in all 3 cases the story ends at a point where if you take it further you are in an entirely new story
Semantics lol. But I was agreeing that I'm fine with it being one story.
 

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thats not a cliffhanger...
sameway that Inception's ending isn't a cliffhanger

in all 3 cases the story ends at a point where if you take it further you are in an entirely new story

The fact that the series ended in a moment of suspense is the definition of cliffhanger.
 

doug777

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Just found out that Tim Looking Glass Nelson is actually from Tulsa and Anna Skylar White Gunn is from New Mexico.
 
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