Now, I'm a big hockey fan myself, and I don't understand why blacks don't like hockey. Is it because it's not dominated by blacks, or it's too cold . I'm just curious...
I don't think white people like hockey!
Now, I'm a big hockey fan myself, and I don't understand why blacks don't like hockey. Is it because it's not dominated by blacks, or it's too cold . I'm just curious...
thank youSetting the Ice Hockey Historical Record Straight
Our knowledge of the roots of Canadian hockey has been based almost solely on the historical records maintained by early White historians.
Because of this, the misconception that hockey is a White man’s invention has persisted. We know today, such an assumption could not be further from historical fact.
The roots of early Canadian hockey originate with the North American Indians. The roots of modern Canadian hockey originate, in large part, from the influence of an even more surprising source, that of early African-Canadian hockey.
For it was Black hockey players in the later half of the nineteenth century whose style of play and innovations helped shape the sport, effectively changing the game of hockey forever. Page 12.
The First Black Ice Hockey Players - 1820 to 1870
With certainty, we can only date Black hockey to the early 1870’s, yet we know that hockey and Black history in
Nova Scotia have parallel roots, going back almost 100 years. Among the first reports of hockey being played occur in 1815 along the isolated Northwest Arm, south of Halifax.
The date is important for the simple fact that as late as October 1815 the region was not home to a large White settlement but was instead the site of a small Black enclave.
Four Black families originally from the Chesapeake Bay area, with a total of fifteen children, had relocated and settled on the Arm. It is reported that these families, Couney, Williams, Munro and Leale, received adequate food, lodging and employment implying that their children were healthy and would have been able to play hockey during the winter months when the Arm was frozen and suitable for skating.
Were these children among the first Canadians to play the game of hockey? We do not know. All we can say is that the coincidence between the date of the Northwest Arm’s Black settlement and the first records of hockey being played in the area are worthy of reflection. Page 12-13.
Black Ice
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African-American Hockey 1895-1925
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Black Ice: The Lost History of the Colored Hockey League
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Respect.
If you live in a climate where it gets cold enough to hard freeze ponds, then it's not that expensive, if you don't, then you have to spend a LARGE amount of cash on a self-cooled rink. MOST black athletes don't come from that kind of climate, so the only way they are playing hockey is if their community invested in a rink (and even communities that can afford a rink, would probably spend the money on an indoor swimming pool first). Most of the USA is in a climate too warm to support winter sports (at minimal expense), Canada and Eastern Europe are sub-arctic climates and thus are perfect for winter sports. Even the northeastern U.S. can't maintain enough snow to support an entire Poconos ski season (they generally have to make snow every season). If your climate forces you to have to SIMULATE winter for any amount of time, the cost of winter sports becomes prohibitive.
There are also plenty of American cities that have the same winter conditions that most Canadian cities do. Detroit, New York, Chicago, Boston, Minneapolis, etc. Many of these cities have professional hockey traditions that go back over a century in some cases. I don't see how natural factors or access to gear is prohibitive in that sense.
It's simple, people don't watch sports that they weren't into as kids. I see kids playing football and basketball in the streets. All you really need is a ball. Once you start getting into games you have to shell out money for it's a wrap. That's why not as many kids play baseball as they used to. A glove costs $$$, a bat costs $$$, broken windows cost $$$$. In hockey, the sticks cost $$$, you need to buy two goals....$$$. In the hood, cars are always coming down the block. That means they would be moving the goals all the time.
Come on man, you know all of this.
And a lot of those cities are football/basketball/baseball cities first and foremost (and a lot of those Canadian cities are HOCKEY towns). American states like Minnesota and the Northern parts of Michigan are more into winter sports because they have always been more into winter sports, but Illinois, Ohio, Indiana, etc. have always been into more traditional American sports (football/baseball/basketball). The sport hasn't caught on with whites either in a lot of those areas (that's why the NHL stays borderline wanting to abandon the U.S. market outside of a few historic hockey teams like Detroit, Chicago, Boston, etc). Hockey, like soccer, is just not a classic AMERICAN sport. Hockey is a second tier sport in the U.S., somewhere between indoor soccer and arena football in the majority of the country. Kids aren't going to have interest when the sport seems to only appeal to die-hard fans, immigrants and folks that actually got into playing it (same as soccer). I live in a 60% black area that built a new ice rink facility recently (within the past 10 years) and there are a few kids (black and white) getting into hockey simply because it's available to them, but most of the kids simply use the facility to skate (tons of black FEMALES are in there on any given weekend skating, there are even a few training for competitive skating)
I just don't buy into this implication that blacks aren't into hockey because they are somehow "unsophisticated" or "closed minded" anymore than a Latin or Euro is close minded because all they are into is soccer. We've had the debate on BGOL before where all the foreign board members criticized the American board members because they don't appreciate soccer, well, to me it's a bunch of dudes chasing a ball around and not scoring much, maybe if I knew what the fuck they were doing, I could get into it more, but I don't, and since I already have a full 12 months worth of sports I can enjoy, I may never care to figure out soccer. The sheer violence of rugby made me want to understand the game more because it had that same kind of action level as football, hockey just never intrigued me the same way (even with the rough play). When you don't understand the rules of a game or how it is played, you generally won't develop much interest in it,
Ping-pong is the national sport in China, a BILLION people follow ping-pong the way we follow football, are we unsophisticated because we don't follow ping-pong too?
- The average American kid knows the fundamentals of the big three American sports at a very young age, so those are the sports they follow
- The average Canadian kid knows the fundamentals of hockey at a young age, so that is what they follow
- The average Latin American kid knows the fundamentals of soccer at a young age, so that is what they follow (kids in South and Central America walk around with soccer balls the same way American black kids walk around with basketballs, which is funny, since basketball is a South American sport originally)
- The average West Indian kid knows the fundamentals of cricket at a young age, so that is what they follow
I had never heard of jai-lai in my damn life, but the Portuguese and Cape Verdi-ans up in Rhode Island (when I lived their) BREATH that shit.
It's all cultural and just because black Americans like certain sports more than others doesn't make those sports (we don't necessarily support) more sophisticated than the ones we do support.
Some of Us Do. I Love It Myself. My Pops Got Me Started.
The sport doesn't have enough people for me to identify with to watch.
I used to want to play hockey when I was younger but it's an expensive sport.
800 per season for all positions except goal which cost 1k.
Now, I'm a big hockey fan myself, and I don't understand why blacks don't like hockey. Is it because it's not dominated by blacks, or it's too cold . I'm just curious...
fuck outta here cracka
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It's simple, people don't watch sports that they weren't into as kids. I see kids playing football and basketball in the streets. All you really need is a ball. Once you start getting into games you have to shell out money for it's a wrap. That's why not as many kids play baseball as they used to. A glove costs $$$, a bat costs $$$, broken windows cost $$$$. In hockey, the sticks cost $$$, you need to buy two goals....$$$. In the hood, cars are always coming down the block. That means they would be moving the goals all the time.
Come on man, you know all of this.
It costs too much, and there aren't any ice rinks in the hood. It's cheap to play basketball, and football, even baseball is relatively expensive if you're lower income.
it would take a cracka to bump this thread after 2 years.
Correct!!
To be honest,black people don't like hockey because there aren't enough of us in the sport. The reason for that is because black people historically never had the financial resources to participate in sports that require more than having a ball.
For instance, you need to pay to practice at your local rink if you decide to take hockey seriously. there isn't enough ice in the city during the winter to skate upon for real practice. the same goes for hockey gear and the maintenance of it.
The financial problem is the same reason why tennis, car racing, polo, swimming, diving, and crew are not considered black people sports.
I am not saying there aren't any blacks in these sports, There are and they are the exception for special reasons. For instance Serena and Venus probably practiced for free at community tennis court and tiger Woods has a father rich enough to afford membership to a country club.
Simply put, to be good in any sport, you need to practice constantly. however, sports like hockey or diving require you to pay for the use of facilities in order to practice. whereas basketball, you just need a ground and a ball. Local parks with hoops are not hard to find. Hell the closest one to my house is 300 yards away. I couldn't tell you were to find an ice rink right now.
rangers are getting murdered
i mean they're getting beat the fuck up and its only 2nd
I GUESS I LOVED HOCKEY BECAUSE MY PARENTS STARTED ME PLAYING ROLLER HOCKEY. HOCKEY IS HOCKEY TO ME. I've played on Ice as well. I wish I would have started sooner. I LOVE GOLFING AS WELL. I SPEND DAYS AT THE COURSE. Learning to play golf is not that expensive.
It may not be that expensive to you because your parents had that money to spend, but for some families, it is down to spending that money on recreational sports and extracurricular activities vs. paying for rent and putting food on the table.
The Black Ice is an exception. That picture of the team looks pretty old. there must have been some circumstance that encouraged them to put the team together back then. I bet it must have been pervasive racism. Aside from the black Ice, how many youth Ice Hockey teams are there that are predominately black today. Can you name any in your neighborhood?
As a matter of fact, the black people in the NHL...where did they grow up, what was their circumstances. I can almost bet it is not that similar of a black kid from an urban area.
i think the reason is more about scoring than anything..
people mentioned how expensive it is to play BUT the parents who bitch about the cost of gloves and sticks are the SAME parts who don't mind buying ROCAWEAR and JORDANS for their kids... Little Jamal can't have a hockey stick because it cost too much but he's walking around in 150 dollar sneakers and a 300 dollar jogging suit???
On paper hockey SHOULD be popular with todays blacks...
Its fast paced
Its hard hitting action
Its very violent
It has a sort of fluid motion to it.
but its the LOWEST scoring sport next to baseball.
2 hours of watching just for a score of 1-0??
MAYBE if they scored like in football.. 6 points for every score..
Imagine watching a hockey game where the score was 34-22 THATS more like it..
I think its the low scoring thats the major turnoff..