It's most likely a wrap for Affirmative Action today

Chiyo

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Yeah you’re an idiot or a cracka , If you think Affirmative makes it harder for Asians you definitely a cac. You with that Fox News talking point I see. Crackas got some dumb ass Asians thinking it’s unfair for them and you believe it too smfh. Clown shit, then you have to nerve to compare it to bedwenching which would only be a thing if Blacks went around raping and enslaving Asians for centuries. Take your dumb ass the fuck out of here

You live in California. You and I both know what happened to Asian college rates at the top schools there when they outlawed it. I also support it too(when its going to people disenfranchised in this country..not rich Africans or white women), but why would an Asian woman support it?

Thats dangerous behavior from her, and im just telling you to be on alert.
 
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conspiracy_brotha

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Yeah you’re an idiot or a cracka , If you think Affirmative makes it harder for Asians you definitely a cac. You with that Fox News talking point I see. Crackas got some dumb ass Asians thinking it’s unfair for them and you believe it too smfh. Clown shit, then you have to nerve to compare it to bedwenching which would only be a thing if Blacks went around raping and enslaving Asians for centuries. Take your dumb ass the fuck out of here
it’s funny you label him the CAC when you decided to marry your imaginary none black Asian wife you cannot make this up
 

Dr. Truth

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You live in California. You and I both know what happened to Asian college rates at the top schools there when they outlawed it. I also support it too(when its going to people disenfranchised in this country..not rich Africans or white women), but why would an Asian woman support it?

Thats dangerous behavior from her, and im just telling you to be on alert.
Bullshit, Asians make up huge portions of college populations here. AA didn’t do shit to stop them from getting in. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Asians make up 23% of Stanford 21% USC and 35% of UCLA, 45% at Berkeley and 34% at UC Irvine
 

Chiyo

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Bullshit, Asians make up huge portions of college populations here. AA didn’t do shit to stop them from getting in. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Asians make up 23% of Stanford 21% USC and 35% of UCLA, 45% at Berkeley and 34% at UC Irvine
I said the top schools, but since you have the statistics that we all have post how the numbers moved after 1998 for Asian applicants when it was outlawed in the state.
 

gene cisco

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There are large swaths of the Black community that have never had a single person in their family go to college. They've never heard of Udemy. They have no educational or financial framework to follow or educational literacy to know how to follow that path. If you were always in poor schools that never gave you a decent education and you live in a community where no one values education, telling someone to either:

1. On your own, teach yourself to be an IT professional
or
2. On your own, develop the skills to instill this in your children

is very much bootstraps.

I'm not saying AA is the complete answer, but I am saying that telling a community that was denied having decent schools, denied having the GI Bill give your family a free education that then becomes family tradition, and has it's own cultural challenges it needs to overcome to just "prioritize education" is not a way out.
You keep making it seem like our community is just full of idiots. It's not. We both know that.

I had to teach myself every fucking thing. And we are talking 56k days. I learned how to build my first website damn near a quarter century ago. No one showed me how to get that information. I went and took that shit. Think I learned that shit in public school?

The truth is the world is moving on without us. Asians have came in and dominated. The out-of-touch eggheads didn't see this coming. So the 'poc' they were happy to see coming in, now have changed the game. No there is additonal pressure on the black community to keep up. Remember, Asians have passed whites.

AA is dead(well, dying). Thank the Asians. Thank the eggheads/shills who thought all POC are allies. Now it's time to face the brutal reality that these people have raised the bar. Now not only do we have to deal with whites, we have to deal with Asians who don't want to hear about shit being hard. Soon Hispanics will be saying the same shit(they do better in school too).:smh:

Really don't see any way out of this but changing priorities. No, it won't be easy, but it has to be done or the community as group is finished before it got a change to take advantage of the Civil Rights act that the fucking Asians and Hispanic took advantage of as groups.

We had decades as a community to use AA to its fullest but we let these Asians/Hispanics come in and eat, all while opening the door and pulling out the chair for them like fucking fools. Civil Rights got the food and cooked it for them. It's really sad this is the outcome. :smh:
 

Dr. Truth

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I said the top schools, but since you have the statistics that we all have post how the numbers moved after 1998 for Asian applicants when it was outlawed in the state.
WTF Those are the top universities in California. You think Stanford ain’t a top school? FOH thinking AA prevented Asians from getting in. You have to be trolling
 

totto

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I wish our people stop saying "people of color". Other groups have shown they don't give a fuck about black people over and over again yet some of us still believe there's some type of coalition when it's not.
She needs a job and her. Wing honest is gonna cost her money and possibly future projects so do yourself a favor and stop list ING to garbage.

Anyone black in media is. It a friend of daily brothers and sisters.

Jemele hill got real this week a out Asians and they bombed her it's all a game they need a job so they act dumb.
 

ghoststrike

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I said the top schools, but since you have the statistics that we all have post how the numbers moved after 1998 for Asian applicants when it was outlawed in the state.

MIT and Stanford are not Ivy League but rank higher than Harvard (top Ivy League school but 3rd place, according to QS World University Rankings). Stanford and MIT are top schools.

Asians are highly represented at Harvard (Ivy League school) despite historical attempts at reducing their share:

"In a breakdown of the incoming class released by the university last week, Harvard revealed that 29.9% of admitted applicants are Asian American. It’s a 2.1% jump from last year’s number."

Speaking of MIT, the other top school that ranks above Harvard:

Profile of MIT’s Class of 2025​

Published on September 7, 2021

Gender

Male50%
Female47%
Another gender identity2%

Citizenship & self-reported ethnicity*

U.S. citizens & permanent residents
Number of U.S. states represented: 48
90%
American Indian/Alaskan Native2%
Asian American41%
Black/African American13%
Hispanic/Latinx14%
Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islander1%
White/Caucasian37%
International citizens
Number of countries represented: 66
10%

 

Dr. Truth

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MIT and Stanford are not Ivy League but rank higher than Harvard (top Ivy League school but 3rd place, according to QS World University Rankings). Stanford and MIT are top schools.

Asians are highly represented at Harvard (Ivy League school) despite historical attempts at reducing their share:

"In a breakdown of the incoming class released by the university last week, Harvard revealed that 29.9% of admitted applicants are Asian American. It’s a 2.1% jump from last year’s number."

Speaking of MIT, the other top school that ranks above Harvard:

Profile of MIT’s Class of 2025​

Published on September 7, 2021

Gender

Male50%
Female47%
Another gender identity2%

Citizenship & self-reported ethnicity*

U.S. citizens & permanent residents
Number of U.S. states represented: 48
90%
American Indian/Alaskan Native2%
Asian American41%
Black/African American13%
Hispanic/Latinx14%
Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islander1%
White/Caucasian37%
International citizens
Number of countries represented: 66
10%

Dude clearly has no idea what he’s talking about
 

Chiyo

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MIT and Stanford are not Ivy League but rank higher than Harvard (top Ivy League school but 3rd place, according to QS World University Rankings). Stanford and MIT are top schools.

Asians are highly represented at Harvard (Ivy League school) despite historical attempts at reducing their share:

"In a breakdown of the incoming class released by the university last week, Harvard revealed that 29.9% of admitted applicants are Asian American. It’s a 2.1% jump from last year’s number."

Speaking of MIT, the other top school that ranks above Harvard:

Profile of MIT’s Class of 2025​

Published on September 7, 2021

Gender

Male50%
Female47%
Another gender identity2%

Citizenship & self-reported ethnicity*

U.S. citizens & permanent residents
Number of U.S. states represented: 48
90%
American Indian/Alaskan Native2%
Asian American41%
Black/African American13%
Hispanic/Latinx14%
Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islander1%
White/Caucasian37%
International citizens
Number of countries represented: 66
10%

We were talking about California and what happened in it when AA was banned as the poster and their asian wife live in that state.
 

tajshan

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Considering what how most think of Asians when it comes to test taking, it may only be a matter of time before they get their (insert slur here) wake-up call.
 

November 17

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Man I loved A Different World, they always showcased black issues like that.

What pisses me off is the people who have been for this have said because of AA white folks will think blacks weren't smart enough because of preference. They already thought we were not smart enough before AA even existed, as if this decision will change that. :smh:

I love what you wrote! Unfortunately, there are those within the black community that are always looking for acceptance from "outside" the community. Meanwhile, no one ever comes to the black community and asks their opinion of how they might feel for something that is designed to benefit their particular group.

 

Chiyo

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You said top schools, dude.



Yea, including the "AA makes it harder for Asians" right-wing talking point.
I said top schools when we were clearly talking about California, but since you want to hop in the conversation lets get you in it too.


What makes an Asian women laying up with someone outside of her race when we know Asian rates at top schools in California went up after the state banned AA different from a Candice Owens? Hell even a Clarence Thomas?

If someone can show no loyalty to themselves what would stop them from hurting you?
 

Pworld297

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I love what you wrote! Unfortunately, there are those within the black community that are always looking for acceptance from "outside" the community. Meanwhile, no one ever comes to the black community and asks their opinion of how they might feel for something that is designed to benefit their particular group.


Appreciate it bruh! I've seen this with James Baldwin before, it never gets old. Cacs still think like that cac today. Smh!
 

ghoststrike

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I said top schools when we were clearly talking about California, but since you want to hop in the conversation lets get you in it too.


What makes an Asian women laying up with someone outside of her race when we know Asian rates at top schools in California went up after the state banned AA different from a Candice Owens? Hell even a Clarence Thomas?

If someone can show no loyalty to themselves what would stop them from hurting you?

Dude, give it a rest. You said top schools and now trying to backslide lol
 

November 17

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Appreciate it bruh! I've seen this with James Baldwin before, it never gets old. Cacs still think like that cac today. Smh!
You're right! You people (blacks) have it so good nowadays, but if asked would you be willing to trade places with them (I won't even use "crickets," but refer to the philosophical question, "What is the sound of one hand clapping)?
 

DC_Dude

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The Keckley Report
SCOTUS Decisions open a Can of Worms for Healthcare
July 3, 2023
Five recent Supreme Court rulings have reset the context for U.S. jurisprudence for years to come and open a can of worms for healthcare operators.

Last year’s SCOTUS decision ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health (June 24, 2022) set the tone: in its 6-3 decision, the high court determined that that access to abortion is a state issue, not federal thus nullifying the 50-year-old legal precedent in Roe v. Wade and reversing 2 lower court rulings.
On June 1, 2023, in the United States v. Supervalu, petitioners sued SuperValu and Safeway under the False Claims Act (FCA) alleging they defrauded the Medicare and Medicaid by knowingly filing false claims. Essentially, the plaintiffs sought financial remedy because the retailers’ prices were not explicitly and specifically “usual and customary” prices. In its unanimous ruling, SCOTUS agreed that “the phrase ‘usual and customary’ is open to interpretation, but reasoned that “such facial ambiguity alone is not sufficient to preclude a finding that respondents knew their claims were false.”
On June 29, 2023, in Students for Fair Admissions, Inc. v. President and Fellows of Harvard College, the court ruled 6-3 that affirmative action policies at Harvard and the University of NC that consider an applicant’s race in college admissions are unconstitutional.
On June 30, 2023, in 303 Creative LLC v. Elenis (June 30, 2023) By a vote of 6-3, SCOTUS ruled that the First Amendment right of free speech prohibits Colorado from forcing a website designer to create expressive designs speaking messages with which the designer disagrees.
On June 30, 2023, in Department of Education v. Brown: By a unanimous vote, SCOTUS ruled that the 2 plaintiffs lacked standing to “Article III standing to assert a procedural challenge to the student-loan debt-forgiveness plan adopted by the Secretary of Education pursuant to Higher Education Relief Opportunities for Students Act of 2003 (HEROES Act).” In effect, the court vacated and remanded the judgment of the United States Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit because it felt Myra Brown and Alexander Taylor (plaintiffs) did not prove that any injury suffered from not having their loans forgiven. Therefore, the court had no jurisdiction to address their procedural claim.
Each of these is specific to a circumstance but collectively they expose industries like healthcare to greater compliance risk, potential court challenges and operational complexity. Here’s an example:

The 58-year-old Kennedy-era legal precedent of affirmative action to redress racial inequity was the focus in Students for Fair Admissions, Inc. v. President and Fellows of Harvard College. SCOTUS essentially sided with plaintiffs who argued affirmative action violates the 14th Amendment’s Equal Protection guarantee. In healthcare, research shows access to the healthcare system is disproportionately inaccessible to persons of color, especially if they’re poor. They improve when individuals are treated by clinicians of the same race but only about 5% of doctors in America are Black, compared to 12% of the general population and only 6% of doctors in the U.S. are Hispanic while the group accounts for nearly almost 20% of the general population.

Notwithstanding the uncanny similarities between higher education and healthcare (both have raised prices above GDP and overall inflation rates for 2 decades, both jealously protect their reputations against outside transparency and unflattering report cards, both feature competition between public and private institutions and both face questions about the value of their efforts), the issue of diversity is central in both. Affirmative action is a means to that end, but at least for now and in higher education, it’s not constitutional.

Might workforce diversity and clinician training efforts be stymied by the prospect of court challenges? Might “affirmative action” in healthcare be replaced by “holistic review” to enable consideration of an applicant’s life or quality of character as some conservative jurists have suggested?

My take:

Affirmative action per the example above is only one of many constructs widely accepted in healthcare today where court challenges may alter the future. Individual rights and free speech including online medical advice, the role of state governments, fraud and abuse and other domains are equally exposed.

It’s clear this court is not threatened by legal precedent nor cautious about public opinion on touchy issues. Thus, immediate imperatives for healthcare organizations are these:

Revisit legal precedents on which the ways we operate are based: Roles and responsibilities in US healthcare are sacrosanct and protected by legal precedent: Physicians diagnose and treat; others don’t. Insurers pay claims but don’t practice medicine. Not for profit hospitals serve community needs in exchange for tax-exemption. Public health programs that serve the poor are funded by local and state governments. Employer sponsored benefits underwrite the system’s profitability and fund its hospital Part A obligations and so on. Might a conservative court revisit these in the context of the constitution’s “general welfare” purpose and redirect its focus, roles and structure?

Revisit terms and phrases where consensus is presumed but specific definition is lacking: Just as SCOTUS recognized ambiguity in applying terms like “usual and customary” in its Supervalu-Safeway ruling, it is likely to challenge other widely used phrases used in healthcare that often lack specific referents i.e., quality, safety, efficacy, effectiveness, community benefit, charity care, evidence-based care, cost-effectiveness, not-for-profit, competition, value” and many others. Might SCOTUS force the industry to more specifically define its most widely used phrases in order to justify its claims?

For everyone in healthcare, these rulings open a can of worms. Compliance risk assessments, scenario plan updates required!
 

COINTELPRO

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This isn't the first time that objective looking tests were used to exclude us.

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Affirmative Action or Diversity Equity and Inclusion in corporate america are very complex legal strategies that WS deploy. Here you affirmatively promote us at a college or in corporate america, hoping they will get sued by somebody white. The lawsuit will establish legal precedent and protections from lawsuits from us. Meanwhile while they are affirmatively admitting us into college, we aren't challenging the admission process ourselves such as the jelly bean test.

I believe Asian and Indian test scores were manipulated will start dropping allowing more white students. They believed their superior ability to count jelly beans (SAT/ACT) should be the primary factor with admissions. Many of these elite colleges are crawling with foreign intelligence services, why would somebody go to these place knowing you will be under surveillance is beyond me based on my experience.

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If they get sued by a white person, they are cheerleading that fool on, probably helping that person behind the scenes. You are writing a check to another white person. The same thing with student loan forgiveness, a slight variation of this scheme. Now the court has established legal precedent that any President can't just wipe out student debt on his own. It is time to get rid of the mentally weak in the black community.
 

COINTELPRO

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This isn't the first time that objective looking tests were used to exclude us.

20210618_1708092.jpg


Affirmative Action or Diversity Equity and Inclusion in corporate america are very complex legal strategies that WS deploy. Here you affirmatively promote us at a college or in corporate america, hoping they will get sued by somebody white. The lawsuit will establish legal precedent and protections from lawsuits from us. Meanwhile while they are affirmatively admitting us into college, we aren't challenging the admission process ourselves such as the jelly bean test.

I believe Asian and Indian test scores were manipulated will start dropping allowing more white students. They believed their superior ability to count jelly beans (SAT/ACT) should be the primary factor with admissions. Many of these elite colleges are crawling with foreign intelligence services, why would somebody go to these place knowing you will be under surveillance is beyond me based on my experience.

Most-wanted-fbi.jpg


If they get sued by a white person, they are cheerleading that fool on, probably helping that person behind the scenes. You are writing a check to another white person. The same thing with student loan forgiveness, a slight variation of this scheme. Now the court has established legal precedent that any President can't just wipe out student debt on his own. It is time to get rid of the mentally weak in the black community.

No I don't want affirmative action at some racist University posing as a do-gooder, I don't want student loan forgiveness, or a 5% IDR without Congressional approval. I am good with my defaulted student debt that is worthless.

I am going to establish legal precendent showing this jelly bean test is biased and not a good measure of future potential.

This is vindication for Justice Thomas.
 

Chiyo

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Dude, give it a rest. You said top schools and now trying to backslide lol
Top schools in relation to california where it was outlawed 2 decades ago, but If you want to be in the conversation then answer the question.

What stops someone who knows those facts from hurting you as you lay in bed with them?
 

Camille

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Excerpt:

America First Legal, run by white nationalist former Trump aide Stephen Miller, started teeing up the next racist court decision before this one was even decided. The group has filed at least nine Equal Employment Opportunity Commission complaints, The Washington Post reports, alleging that major companies like McDonald’s, Alaska Airlines, Hershey, Anheuser-Busch, and Nordstrom are “hiring people based solely on immutable characteristics, like race or sex, rather than qualifications or abilities.” If the EEOC doesn’t do what Miller wants, the next step would likely be a lawsuit.
 

Camille

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Excerpt:



On the Affirmative Action ruling​

What it did, who it affected, what its end means​



Below are some notes about the Supreme Court's affirmative action (AA) ruling. These will include some arguments from the liberal side of the spectrum that have, for various reasons, essentially said good riddance to AA in college admissions. This is, to put it mildly, a thorny and contested topic. But one thing I want to focus on is what I’ve seen as a misleadingly simplified account of what AA does and whom it affect and, therefore, the consequences of its elimination. He's only one example, but since Matt Yglesias is very popular and lots of people have cited his 19 theses on affirmative action, I'll refer to his observations as a proxy for some of that larger sentiment.
- Let's start with what will certainly be one effect of the ruling. Fewer Black students will be admitted to and attend many of the affected schools. Whether, over time, admissions offices find different means than explicit consideration of race to construct the kinds of diversity they want in their incoming classes, in the short term, there will be fewer Black students at places like UNC. That's really not debatable. When the University of California system was compelled to stop using AA in the late 1990s, the impact was clear. In 1997, the last incoming class for which Cal-Berkeley's admissions office used AA, about 7.5% of the incoming class was African-American. In 1998, after a statewide ban went into effect, it was about half that, and has remained so ever since. Michigan had a similar experience after a 2006 ban. The same will almost certainly be true at UNC.
 

Camille

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Mrfreddygoodbud

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Real Kniggas dont give a fuck about affirmative action, because real kniggas never benefitted from that,

first it was just black woman, then women in general, then wite women then white women and poc,

then it was about to go the fags.. and they just cut that shit out...

As a real indigenous American Man I aint never benefitted from affirmative action.... and I dont know

what real bruh that gives a fuck its gone....

Not ONE....!!!!

a whole lot of others and their flunkies upset tho.....
 
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