Jaleel White on feeling left out in the legacy of Black entertainment, saying, “If it’s not a hood story, it’s not a Black story,”

babydaddy

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man people are talking about shit they know nothing about
im 45 years old this was my era as a teen
niggas got shot over jackets in the 90s(mainly starter jackets..charlotte to be exact)
niggas wanted to buy guns when they got robbed
but anyway im growing tired of this thread
yall be good


That was a nation wide thing of teens getting robbed for jackets and shoes.
 

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Ratings for shows, especially back in those days is like when people look at record sales for music. Selling a bunch of records don't make you dope, just means you're popular. Black shows in particular with high ratings meansssssss... A buncha whitefolks watched it. When wholefoods get ahold of anything black they make it popular and then leave it for the next big thing. When it's organic it's a cult classic forever.

And the ABC's, CBS's and NBC's naturally attracted more viewers.

Certain shit for black people though was must watch. Family Matters wasn't one.
 

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I didn't mention it because it's common knowledge why Rolle and Amos didn't like the JJ character. Come on dude, bitching is synonymous with complaining. I have no idea why you think my argument is analogous to white people and the confederate flag.
Because you repeatedly mentioned the complaining minus the context.
 

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Everything you posted proves what was never in dispute. I've said several times in this thread that no one disputes that Esther Rolle and John Amos had problems with the JJ Evans character. What we're disagreeing about is why Amos was fired, and nothing you posted says Amos was fired to expand JJ's role. You and I both posted Amos saying he threatened the writers of the show with physical violence. How long would you expect them to allow someone to threaten his colleagues before something is done, seems like about three years in Amos' case. We'll have to agree to disagree on this.
Everything I posted indicated that was a major sticking point to why they didn’t want John Amos around. To say that it was JUST about him threatening the writers is incomplete. He threatened that small piece of white supremacy they held In wanting to minstrelize those Black portrayals. Ultimately, they had a standoff with Esther Rolle over the same thing which led to her quitting.
 

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And the ABC's, CBS's and NBC's naturally attracted more viewers.

Certain shit for black people though was must watch. Family Matters wasn't one.
And that's ok. It's was cool, I watched it, it was entertaining. But this is the disconnect that happens when anything gets super popular for a demo it wasn't targeted at. Loyal fans gone stay loyal, but Family matters never had a loyal base. Just people that wanted to see Urkle say the thing. You'll never be remembered when that's your niche.
 

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Good analysis though and listening to the clip from him again, Martin and Living single both were more grounded in reality. Like if you look at the cosby show. It will be both the top of black shows and family shows so his opinion holds no weight with me.




Tommy had a job...what she talking about??? :lol:
 

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Good analysis though and listening to the clip from him again, Martin and Living single both were more grounded in reality. Like if you look at the cosby show. It will be both the top of black shows and family shows so his opinion holds no weight with me.




Tommy had a job...what she talking about??? :lol:

Excellent analysis.
 

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I still watch to this day but what kept it from being placed in the same bracket with shows like martin was it started to jump the shark The quality went down when they introduced stephan and all of steves cartoony inventions like shrink rays and tike machines a d steve wasnt a believable or relatable character. He was a cartoon character. It's an abc sitcom from the same mold as happy days , mork and mindy etc. and steve was the star like the fonz and mork. Family matters started as a regular black sitcom but became the black version of an abc sitcom
 
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It feels like the more I read this thread, the more Black sitcoms I think of that were/are better than 'Family Matters'... most in fact.
Sometimes you have to weigh your words against its intent. Sometimes the juice isn’t worth the squeeze. Instead of him being frustrated knowing no one fucks with the show and especially him, now everyone is going to come out and list every show in human history that’s better than you and that show. Sometimes you have to take the short L to avoid a whole humble pie.
 

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Im over halfway through this interview and it's pretty good so far. He talks about how he used the wrong words at that book signing. He talked about a lot of things from the book and to his point, I think that his story would be interesting on its own but separate from Family Matters. Will be back with more comments when I'm done listening.

 
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Finished the interview. I thought it was a good interview and I thought that he provided introspection and also reasoning behind some of the experiences he had through his upbringing. I haven't watched too many interviews with him but I thought Van and Lathan did a good job of having a longer conversation, especially when it comes to how he sees black women vs. other races. It's a long interview, but I think it's worth it.
 

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Finished the interview. I thought it was a good interview and I thought that he provided introspection and also reasoning behind some of the experiences he had through his upbringing. I haven't watched too many interviews with him but I thought Van and Lathan did a good job of having a longer conversation, especially when it comes to how he sees black women vs. other races. It's a long interview, but I think it's worth it.
Why should a black person listen to a black man pontificate on a subject he thinks little of?

Where’s Andrew Dice Clay? Where is Dane Cook? You running back tv ratings from the 90s in 2024 means little to black people. The people you’re disparaging thinks Jay Z is in the Illuminati. You can’t think little of them and run to them when you need a couple dollars. We notice this shit. We are not dumb as the people who you crave acceptance from does.
 
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He has never tried to include himself in black culture. Next he's gone say black women rejected him is his reasoning for laying up with facially challenged cacs
 
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