Yeah, family matters was just popular at the time but that doesn't mean better.It feels like the more I read this thread, the more Black sitcoms I think of that were/are better than 'Family Matters'... most in fact.
Yeah, family matters was just popular at the time but that doesn't mean better.It feels like the more I read this thread, the more Black sitcoms I think of that were/are better than 'Family Matters'... most in fact.
man people are talking about shit they know nothing about
im 45 years old this was my era as a teen
niggas got shot over jackets in the 90s(mainly starter jackets..charlotte to be exact)
niggas wanted to buy guns when they got robbed
but anyway im growing tired of this thread
yall be good
Exactly.Yeah, family matters was just popular at the time but that doesn't mean better.
Ratings for shows, especially back in those days is like when people look at record sales for music. Selling a bunch of records don't make you dope, just means you're popular. Black shows in particular with high ratings meansssssss... A buncha whitefolks watched it. When wholefoods get ahold of anything black they make it popular and then leave it for the next big thing. When it's organic it's a cult classic forever.
It feels like the more I read this thread, the more Black sitcoms I think of that were/are better than 'Family Matters'... most in fact.
Because you repeatedly mentioned the complaining minus the context.I didn't mention it because it's common knowledge why Rolle and Amos didn't like the JJ character. Come on dude, bitching is synonymous with complaining. I have no idea why you think my argument is analogous to white people and the confederate flag.
Everything I posted indicated that was a major sticking point to why they didn’t want John Amos around. To say that it was JUST about him threatening the writers is incomplete. He threatened that small piece of white supremacy they held In wanting to minstrelize those Black portrayals. Ultimately, they had a standoff with Esther Rolle over the same thing which led to her quitting.Everything you posted proves what was never in dispute. I've said several times in this thread that no one disputes that Esther Rolle and John Amos had problems with the JJ Evans character. What we're disagreeing about is why Amos was fired, and nothing you posted says Amos was fired to expand JJ's role. You and I both posted Amos saying he threatened the writers of the show with physical violence. How long would you expect them to allow someone to threaten his colleagues before something is done, seems like about three years in Amos' case. We'll have to agree to disagree on this.
And that's ok. It's was cool, I watched it, it was entertaining. But this is the disconnect that happens when anything gets super popular for a demo it wasn't targeted at. Loyal fans gone stay loyal, but Family matters never had a loyal base. Just people that wanted to see Urkle say the thing. You'll never be remembered when that's your niche.And the ABC's, CBS's and NBC's naturally attracted more viewers.
Certain shit for black people though was must watch. Family Matters wasn't one.
Good analysis though and listening to the clip from him again, Martin and Living single both were more grounded in reality. Like if you look at the cosby show. It will be both the top of black shows and family shows so his opinion holds no weight with me.
Tommy had a job...what she talking about???
That was a nation wide thing of teens getting robbed for jackets and shoes.
Sometimes you have to weigh your words against its intent. Sometimes the juice isn’t worth the squeeze. Instead of him being frustrated knowing no one fucks with the show and especially him, now everyone is going to come out and list every show in human history that’s better than you and that show. Sometimes you have to take the short L to avoid a whole humble pie.It feels like the more I read this thread, the more Black sitcoms I think of that were/are better than 'Family Matters'... most in fact.
Why should a black person listen to a black man pontificate on a subject he thinks little of?Finished the interview. I thought it was a good interview and I thought that he provided introspection and also reasoning behind some of the experiences he had through his upbringing. I haven't watched too many interviews with him but I thought Van and Lathan did a good job of having a longer conversation, especially when it comes to how he sees black women vs. other races. It's a long interview, but I think it's worth it.