Jaleel White on feeling left out in the legacy of Black entertainment, saying, “If it’s not a hood story, it’s not a Black story,”

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To be honest, I always thought the Fresh Prince was a product of revisionist history. Not saying it wasn't good or that it didn't have some popularity. However, I don't think it was as popular as everyone seems to be thinking it was.

I never got the impression it was considered must see tv.
Fresh prince wasn't supposed to be comedy show at the time.

That's why you see a spin-off of it on peacock (bel-Air) which is the direction Fresh prince should've went back then.
 

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Rolle's and Amos's departures had nothing to do with their characters; it was due to the actors. Amos was fired because his constant bitching became more trouble than he was worth and Rolle quit because she felt Norman Lear wasn't taking her concerns seriously. They didn't get rid of them to give more spotlight to Walker. The entire time Rolle and Amos were on that show they were at the center of it.
Wrong again. The genesis of their grievances was an objection to the direction the show had taken. Both were concerned with the imagery of highlighting the antics of a buffoon and spotlighting him over the Black family.
 

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This what he means by hood



1 of the most stereotypical racist cac ideology ever.. clearly had no idea how black people dress , talk, and negative thoughts about certain hairstyles and they had Jaleel white look like their perception.. even made the dumbest dialogue between Carl and Jaleel on how they think black people talk and found a way to trash his hair in the process… cacs were smiling ear to ear when they got them to execute this scene and zero push back


but nerds in this topic are like you aren't going to say anything negative about my idol Urkel
 

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Martin was a hood show based on verbiage used in the show. Also a radio DJ in Detroit Michigan...in the early 90's before cell phones and Spotify...living in a one MAYBE two bedroom apartment with hallways that look more like New York projects than apartments.

How fuckin old are you?

Using slang and hip hop jargon makes you hood?
 

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Bro... have you seen Will ask an audience to sing that theme song?

In ANY country?

Till this day?

And in real time?

it was APPOINTMENT viewing.

and remember Bad Boys?

there is a TON of evidence that PROVES Fresh Prince and Will was HUGE.

So huge Jaleel thanks Will for saving his career


Bro... have you seen Will ask an audience to sing that theme song?

In ANY country?

Till this day?

And in real time?

it was APPOINTMENT viewing.

and remember Bad Boys?

there is a TON of evidence that PROVES Fresh Prince and Will was HUGE.

So huge Jaleel thanks Will for saving his career


How much of the popularity is from people watching it when it aired vs people watching it in syndication?

When he did the first Bad Boys, Martin was the biggest star of the two at that point.

I can't see the video you posted. When I Google anything about White and Smith, I just find stories about Jaleel being mad at Smith at one point for not being able to connect with him to do a tv show together.
 

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How much of the popularity is from people watching it when it aired vs people watching it in syndication?

When he did the first Bad Boys, Martin was the biggest star of the two at that point.

I can't see the video you posted. When I Google anything about White and Smith, I just find stories about Jaleel being mad at Smith at one point for not being able to connect with him to do a tv show together.

What are you basing this on?
 

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Fresh prince wasn't supposed to be comedy show at the time.

That's why you see a spin-off of it on peacock (bel-Air) which is the direction Fresh prince should've went back then.
I ain't going to lie, I was shocked how much I liked the re-imaging of the Fresh Prince.
 

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What are you basing this on?
What are you basing this on?
Read this over the years, but this article talks about it more recently.



To add to it, people forget how much folks (black folk) used to shit on Will Smith's rap career. Also at that point, he wasn't the Will Smith Hollywood mega star we know today.
 

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How much of the popularity is from people watching it when it aired vs people watching it in syndication?

When he did the first Bad Boys, Martin was the biggest star of the two at that point.

I can't see the video you posted. When I Google anything about White and Smith, I just find stories about Jaleel being mad at Smith at one point for not being able to connect with him to do a tv show together.
Martin was more loved in the Black community which even Will admitted in his book....I don't know that Martin was the bigger star in other communities...there was definitely mainstream buzz about Martin but they seemed pretty equal that first go round
 

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Martin was more loved in the Black community which even Will admitted in his book....I don't know that Martin was the bigger star in other communities...there was definitely mainstream buzz about Martin but they seemed pretty equal that first go round
I posted this link for playahaitian. This article is similar to what I remembered hearing at the time.

 

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There's a thread on here about it.

Let me see if I can find it.

Search engine isn't always consistent.
Shit missed the thread, but I did find an article. At this point, it's in development. Hopefully, it will happen.


Thanks for the heads up
 

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Shit missed the thread, but I did find an article. At this point, it's in development. Hopefully, it will happen.


Thanks for the heads up
 

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Shit missed the thread, but I did find an article. At this point, it's in development. Hopefully, it will happen.


Thanks for the heads up
No problem, I just posted the thread about the young martin series.

Check it out when you got time.
 

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So white people can come along label something 'hood' or 'black' and we have to follow suit?

From the Cosbys to Everybody Hates Chris, we just considered them black shows. There's no such thing as a "hood" show
 

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To be honest, I always thought the Fresh Prince was a product of revisionist history. Not saying it wasn't good or that it didn't have some popularity. However, I don't think it was as popular as everyone seems to be thinking it was.

I never got the impression it was considered must see tv.

I think there is some truth to this, becuase I've read that NBC actually was thinking of cancelling the show twice but fans begged for it back and/or syndication proved lucrative.
 

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We know who was writing most of those movies…. Nig had his pants up to his stomach like he was 70 but cacs vision that’s how young black thugs look smh

I remember watching this movie called "On the Streets of L.A." with Lou Gossett and Blair Underwood.

Blair was such a stereotypical 90s Homeboy. Look at this shit. Complete with a du-rag, hoop earrings, gold chain links, crescent moon pendant, and RBG needs. He was also sagging his pants with a broke leg pimp walk.

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Mofo went to the Black Acting School to learn how to be a 90s homeboy.

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I remember watching this movie called "On the Streets of L.A." with Lou Gossett and Blair Underwood.

Blair was such a stereotypical 90s Homeboy. Look at this shit. Complete with a du-rag, hoop earrings, gold chain links, crescent moon pendant, and RBG needs. He was also sagging his pants with a broke leg pimp walk.

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Mofo went to the Black Acting School to learn how to be a 90s homeboy.

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lol man the worse fake wannabe gangster in a movie got to go to the son in that movie south central.. kid look and sounded like a dark skin Carlton banks trying to use hood dialogue… I hated that character..when he got shot in the back I was like good for that motherfucker

Top 10 hated movie characters was this nig
 

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^^^Vulcan bars

that's why might NEVER have that era of communal television again (for better or worse)

besides the Super Bowl.

That is why Netflix is spending billions to get this NFL Live thing working ESPECIALLY with the upcoming Beyonce halftime show.

besides sports no can get a number like that anymore because we are all so fragmented.

My daughter doesn’t watch movies or sitcoms. She prefer reality TV shows or some YouTube streamer.

I barely watch shows myself nowadays. Basketball is about the only thing I have on and it’s background noise while I work.
 
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lol man the worse fake wannabe gangster in a movie got to go to the don in that movie south central.. kid look and sounded like a dark skin Carlton banks trying to use hood dialogue… I hated that character..when he got shot in the back I was like good for that motherfucker

Top 10 hated movie characters was this nig


Yeah, that shit was AWFUL! :lol:

Ray Ray had that boy stealing radios for $20 with a fucked up bowl cut.

I always imagined it was these negroes that cut his hair. It made it funnier to me.

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I remember watching this movie called "On the Streets of L.A." with Lou Gossett and Blair Underwood.

Blair was such a stereotypical 90s Homeboy. Look at this shit. Complete with a du-rag, hoop earrings, gold chain links, crescent moon pendant, and RBG needs. He was also sagging his pants with a broke leg pimp walk.

Blair-Underwood-09.png


anigif.gif


Mofo went to the Black Acting School to learn how to be a 90s homeboy.

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I saw Leprechaun whatever number that was in the Hood with Ice T and Laz Alonzo a couple of months for the first time :smh:
 

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Read this over the years, but this article talks about it more recently.



To add to it, people forget how much folks (black folk) used to shit on Will Smith's rap career. Also at that point, he wasn't the Will Smith Hollywood mega star we know today.

Nah. Even the writer knows he over stating that. This pre internet Will was the guy and so was Martin.

Martin was in those movies but those were NOT HIS MOVIES. Fresh Prince was on prime time NBC. Rappers were jealous yeah but that was the no pop era. That don't mean Will didn't have a huge crossover audience with his music.

If he didn't? He wouldn't have been offered the show and then the movie.

Summertime and Fresh Prince out at the sometime.

And remember like the article said less than 2 years later Will become a super duper star.

if you want to say Martin for a brief moment was bigger than Will?

I guess I'm sure I can prove the opposite but it don't matter in the long run.

They were both on hit shows and stars.
 
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