Jay-Z Speaks On "Verzuz": "No One Can Stand On That Stage With Me"

therealjondoe

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Who's your top mcs?
Jay Z is a talented great artist, good business man, very lucky, I been following him a long time, heard his whole catalog. He has great shit, mixed in with a lot of weak and average shit. Name dropping and features with other famous people, does not make a song great. There are a lot of weak collabs featuring big names.

But niggas, always extreme with dick riding.

It hurts niggas to their soul that Kanye has way more money than Jay Z, without even trying hard to pass him. They rode that pony to the end, that Jay was the smartest, richest nigga in the hip hop industry. Threw it in every debate.

He is very successful, but Jay Z's music catalog is not the best I have heard from end to end, and he definitely is nowhere close to the best lyricist I have ever heard.
 

Day_Carver

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why he ain't have that energy for Goodell?
:giggle:


as much distaste I have for Ye... for 20 songs Ye is his peer
and on a stage using Versuz rules there are 6 MCs that will hurt Js feelings
Same reason Ye didnt have that energy for Trump :giggle: ; oh we not gonna talk about their political shit; but its all good; not 6 though fam, 3 to 4 maybe :giggle:
 

therealjondoe

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Dont start with stipulations and qualifiers now. Bubba lip said nobody can stand next to him. Stand on it. And again, Drakes peak has doubled his. Cherry pick the non singing songs if you must.. He still prob kicks the guys ass.

Lastly, never mention Marvin Gaye again in you fucking life.

The District.
He wouldn't
 

HotNixon36

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Who's your top mcs?

I don't believe in a "top" or "best" rapper list. MC's influenced me or peaked at different times under different circumstances.

I only have my favorite list, and they are not who I would consider the most talented or most lyrical, I just like or respect them for different reasons.

I would put Jay Z in my "Most Successful" or "Most Influential" list, even though there is not one word that ever came out of his mouth that influenced me. But I respect his ability to influence/motivate others and give black men hope based on his background. I also respect his business savvy.
 
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thismybgolname

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U dont Know
I just wanna love U
Empire State of Mind
99 problems
Dirt of your shoulder
Niggas In Paris
Run This Town
That just of the top of my head; i probably could name more if i thought about it...
I posted a link to his top 20 songs, they’re not all hits outside of his region.

All the songs you listed i agree are hits except for you don’t know.

Are you from the upper north east?
 

fu2

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I wouldn't want to see Jay on the stage with anyone other than Nas. And I wouldn't want to see Nas on the stage with anyone other than Jay.

Everything else is unnecessary.
 

ViCiouS

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its a great debate for sure :giggle:

I would like to see:
Future vs Young Thug
50 vs Ross
Kanye vs Jay
Drake vs Wayne
LL vs Cube
TI vs Luda
Travis vs KDOT
now that would be some battles :giggle:
imo Drake Wayne is not good... Drake doesn't have street records, forcing Wayne to only use hits
 

therealjondoe

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I don't believe in a "top" or "best" rapper list. MC's influenced me or peaked at different times under different circumstances.

I only have my favorite list, and they are not would I would consider the most talented or most lyrical, I just like or respect them for different reasons.

I would put Jay Z in my "Most Successful" or "Most Influential" list, even though there is not one word that ever came out of his mouth that influenced me. But I respect his ability to influence/motivate others and give black men hope based on his background. I also respect his business savvy.
Ok so what's your favorites?
 

king reckless

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PSA
U dont Know
I just wanna love U
Empire State of Mind
99 problems
Dirt of your shoulder
Niggas In Paris
Run This Town
That just of the top of my head; i probably could name more if i thought about it...
And those are mainstream hits. The street hits with Freeway, The Lox, 50 Cent. 1st and 3rd album is enough.

LL needs to battle him. Jay eclipsed Cool J's lifetime achievements like lightwork.
 

Thegooch

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Future vs Jay Z needs to happen. Dont make it easy for Jay with lames like Drake and Ye. Future is peeeeeeerfect.

13 BM's/Stirppas vs Bey and the Beehive

Money Rapper (Street) vs Money Rapper (Corp)

Era vs Era 90s vs 2010s

Held in a netural site. Las Vegas!!

Make it happen
 

king reckless

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T Pain had one if the greatest runs ever

When he was running music.

Let’s not downplay the original rappa and singa
Bruh, little John was running rap and he doesn't have lyrics. Waka Flaka had a minute and he'll tell you he ain't got verses. Jay could rap for married 90 fans that go to work early and then go ham for your audience.


BTW Learn your history. One of the original rappers and singers just passed from Cancer. RIP KANGOL kid. He schooled you on the Roxanne track. His era is Also Force MD. All rappers and singers. And T pain can't sing.
 

Day_Carver

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imo Drake Wayne is not good... Drake doesn't have street records, forcing Wayne to only use hits
Ok switch to....
Drake vs Kayne
Wayne vs Jay
Usher vs Chris Brown
Thug vs Future
KDot vs Travis
50 vs Ross...just to see 50 knock his ass out
TI vs Luda
Outkast vs every hip hop group lol
Lil Baby vs lil Durk, Da baby and Gunna

Give them 10 million each....and another 10 million for their charity...charged everyone to see $2-5 dollars and charge advertisers out the ass...easy money!!!!
 

thismybgolname

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Bruh, little John was running rap and he doesn't have lyrics. Waka Flaka had a minute and he'll tell you he ain't got verses. Jay could rap for married 90 fans that go to work early and then go ham for your audience.


BTW Learn your history. One of the original rappers and singers just passed from Cancer. RIP KANGOL kid. He schooled you on the Roxanne track. His era is Also Force MD. All rappers and singers. And T pain can't sing.
Who said anything about lyrics?

This is about being able to go song for song to get the crowd hype.

Thank you for bringing lil Jon in because the songs he’s produced in definitely jayz beat.

Waka never had the amount of hits of anyone in this convo, he doesn’t need to get into a versus with anyone but himself.

T pain
Wayne
Future
Drake all beat him
 
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ViCiouS

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Ok switch to....
Drake vs Kayne
Wayne vs Jay
Usher vs Chris Brown
Thug vs Future
KDot vs Travis
50 vs Ross...just to see 50 knock his ass out
TI vs Luda
Outkast vs every hip hop group lol
Lil Baby vs lil Durk, Da baby and Gunna

Give them 10 million each....and another 10 million for their charity...charged everyone to see $2-5 dollars and charge advertisers out the ass...easy money!!!!
cool

but
Outkast vs Tribe

Drake vs Kayne - to a lesser extent same problem....
 
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