Joe Biden is now POTUS

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Some people here gonna Hate on me, But that is the way it should have been nationwide in the first place
Counting ballots mailed the day of, that show up a week later ?
I am ready to vote as soon as early voting begins. Goto the library, no line, finish in 6 minutes
This proposal is a non problem

 

darth frosty

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The only way things change is a real blue Tsunami hits a good number of states and change them blue enough to pass and sign legislation into law.
Fully agree but the problem is even if the state is blue in regards to governor, US reps and senate...

A lot of times the state house and senate is GOP controlled :smh:

I know that is the case here in Michigan :fuckyousay:

While the major cities and urban areas are blue most states have a lot of open space and rural areas putting dumb ass hicks in the state legislature.
 

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Some people here gonna Hate on me, But that is the way it should have been nationwide in the first place
Counting ballots mailed the day of, that show up a week later ?
I am ready to vote as soon as early voting begins. Goto the library, no line, finish in 6 minutes
This proposal is a non problem


I understand your argument but the problem is what they did with the Post Office this year. There were many people who received their ballots late. Before last year, I hadn't had a letter or package lost in probably a decade. Last year, I had 6 purchases refunded because they were lost somewhere in the mail system. My mother didn't receive my Christmas card until a month after I sent it.
 

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Fully agree but the problem is even if the state is blue in regards to governor, US reps and senate...

A lot of times the state house and senate is GOP controlled :smh:

I know that is the case here in Michigan :fuckyousay:

While the major cities and urban areas are blue most states have a lot of open space and rural areas putting dumb ass hicks in the state legislature.
We have the same situation going on in Wisconsin too Bruh.
 

sammyjax

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Some people here gonna Hate on me, But that is the way it should have been nationwide in the first place
Counting ballots mailed the day of, that show up a week later ?
I am ready to vote as soon as early voting begins. Goto the library, no line, finish in 6 minutes
This proposal is a non problem


This would be cool if it affected everybody the same.

It won't.
 

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I understand your argument but the problem is what they did with the Post Office this year. There were many people who received their ballots late. Before last year, I hadn't had a letter or package lost in probably a decade. Last year, I had 6 purchases refunded because they were lost somewhere in the mail system. My mother didn't receive my Christmas card until a month after I sent it.

:yes:

The real issue is that we are forced to negotiate with people who decided that dismantling the fucking postal system was a fine solution to the "problem" of everyone being able to vote. :smh: In the UK, you can proxy vote and no ID is required. No signs of fraud etc. just like every other Western Democracy. We are the only country where a political party can make voter disenfranchisement a de facto part of their platform...
 

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Some people here gonna Hate on me, But that is the way it should have been nationwide in the first place
Counting ballots mailed the day of, that show up a week later ?
I am ready to vote as soon as early voting begins. Goto the library, no line, finish in 6 minutes
This proposal is a non problem



Actually they are also cutting down on the early voting period.

The problem here is that if you take each item individually, none of them are overly problematic.

But when you put them all together, you realize that they just looked for every way to make it harder to vote and to have the less amount of votes possible.

All of this to "fix" a problem that doesnt even exist.
 

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Actually they are also cutting down on the early voting period.

The problem here is that if you take each item individually, none of them are overly problematic.

But when you put them all together, you realize that they just looked for every way to make it harder to vote and to have the less amount of votes possible.

All of this to "fix" a problem that doesnt even exist.

Classic example of a solution in search of a problem. Instead of addressing why they get no Black votes, they would rather make it harder for Us to vote. :smh:
 

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Actually they are also cutting down on the early voting period.
The problem here is that if you take each item individually, none of them are overly problematic.
But when you put them all together, you realize that they just looked for every way to make it harder to vote and to have the less amount of votes possible.
All of this to "fix" a problem that doesnt even exist.
This is ALL true, But to me, The hardest part is getting people to register to vote & then go to the polls to vote
Ask around, so many are not even register to vote and if you bring them the papers, they still whine about why you want them to do this
Out of all those that can, Only around 26% do vote, So called rules that make it harder has not changed that
People that want to vote will no matter what. The rest, you have to drag fighting you all the way. You could make it as easy as a webpoll and they will not get to the webpage no matter how many easy links you send them.
 
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Fully agree but the problem is even if the state is blue in regards to governor, US reps and senate...

A lot of times the state house and senate is GOP controlled :smh:

I know that is the case here in Michigan :fuckyousay:

While the major cities and urban areas are blue most states have a lot of open space and rural areas putting dumb ass hicks in the state legislature.
That my whole point in saying a blue Tsunami where legislation can be passed (legislative branch) and signed (executive branch) into law.
It has to be a top down, bottom up wave to overcome gerrymandered legislative districts.
 
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:yes:

The real issue is that we are forced to negotiate with people who decided that dismantling the fucking postal system was a fine solution to the "problem" of everyone being able to vote. :smh: In the UK, you can proxy vote and no ID is required. No signs of fraud etc. just like every other Western Democracy. We are the only country where a political party can make voter disenfranchisement a de facto part of their platform...
Personally I don't see the big deal with showing ID. Too many excuses about why we don't have this or that. Why we can't do this and that. These folks don't have to do hard shit to create roadblocks. Simple shit like not having an ID is a enough to suppress the vote. That shouldn't be the case.
 
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Personally I don't see the big deal with showing ID. Too many excuses about why we don't have this or that. Why we can't do this and that. These folks don't have to do hard shit to create roadblocks. Simple shit like not having an ID is a enough to suppress the vote. That should be the case.
if ID was a problem in voting then they would have had that issue and resolved it in the 1920s..certainly by the 1960s...;.WHY is it an issue NOW?? whats changed?? has there ever been any massive voting discrepancies in the past 40 years attributed to ID issues??
 

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if ID was a problem in voting then they would have had that issue and resolved it in the 1920s..certainly by the 1960s...;.WHY is it an issue NOW?? whats changed?? has there ever been any massive voting discrepancies in the past 40 years attributed to ID issues??
I'm speaking on why people/politicians have made showing an ID a big deal. We show Id for a multitude of things, so showing ID to vote shouldn't be made such a big deal. It should be you need my ID...ok here. Instead you have politicans, etc...going to the extreme of saying someone can't afford an ID. Therfore people shouldn't have to show ID.
Having polling places away from a high concentration of people and having limited number of polling locations for that same concentration of folks is a far bigger deal.
 

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I'm speaking on why people/politicians have made showing an ID a big deal. We show Id for a multitude of things, so showing ID to vote shouldn't be made such a big deal. It should be you need my ID...ok here. Instead you have politicans, etc...going to the extreme of saying someone can't afford an ID.
Having polling places away from a high concentration of people and having limited number of polling locations for that same concentration of folks is a bigger deal.
youre right we do have to show ID for many thing but voting has never been one of them. so why should it be now?? again election system is 100+ years old and presenting an ID has NEVER been a issue or requirement even in JIM CROW days when cacs did shit like poll tax and written tests...

so I'll ask the question again....WHY IS IT AN ISSUE NOW??
 

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youre right we do have to show ID for many thing but voting has never been one of them. so why should it be now?? again election system is 100+ years old and presenting an ID has NEVER been a issue or requirement even in JIM CROW days when cacs did shit like poll tax and written tests...

so I'll ask the question again....WHY IS IT AN ISSUE NOW??
Whether there is an issue now or not isn't what I am speaking to as I already stated. Showing an ID shouldn't be a big deal or an issue that needs worrying about.
 

geechiedan

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Whether there is an issue now or not isn't what I am speaking to as I already stated. Showing an ID shouldn't be a big deal or an issue that needs worrying about.
the ONLY reason this is a big deal is because it pertains to voting. Thats the point. Name ANY OTHER issue or situation where republicans (theyre the ONLY ones making a stink of it) are crying about a need for ID to be presented??

So I ask a 3rd time...WHY IS IT AN ISSUE NOW?? why is it only an issue come election time?? Why wasn't it an issue when trump was elected in 2016??only seems to ramp up when a democrat is elected or the party does well.
 

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the ONLY reason this is a big deal is because it pertains to voting. Thats the point. Name ANY OTHER issue or situation where republicans (theyre the ONLY ones making a stink of it) are crying about a need for ID to be presented??

So I ask a 3rd time...WHY IS IT AN ISSUE NOW?? why is it only an issue come election time?? Why wasn't it an issue when trump was elected in 2016??only seems to ramp up when a democrat is elected or the party does well.
On the surface showing a state issued ID should be no problem. However, obtaining a state issue ID is the problem. In Texas just this summer, there were staffing issues and lines longer than voting lines that caused major disruptions. Other states have few locations to get one and the hours to get it is limited. So it's not something that we born into handling easy. It's the process of getting the specific one a major hurdle.
 

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On the surface showing a state issued ID should be no problem. However, obtaining a state issue ID is the problem. In Texas just this summer, there were staffing issues and lines longer than voting lines that caused major disruptions. Other states have few locations to get one and the hours to get it is limited. So it's not something that we born into handling easy. It's the process of getting the specific one a major hurdle.
Right. And Republicans know this. You notice that they don't actively pursue trying to make getting IDs easier for anyone. If they really cared so much about it being a thing, that should be part of their agenda.

And we all know damn good and well that if everyone had IDs that addressed this issue, they would just come up with something else. That's the problem with entertaining a baseless argument. It just opens the door wider for the next baseless argument.
 
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