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You should agree with her. we want cooperation and not consolidation of black voices.
What else was red face going to say. Can't be helping black folk regardless if it will help white folk as well.
Mississippi has the largest black population in the country. Black folk down there gotta change some shit.
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dude..you know who could best answer that question...Eddie S. Glaude Jr. If there is one person who is keenly aware of data...its effects on the black community and the two parties involved its HIM...and what was his choice this past election?I didn't grow up in that era. Perhaps you did. How widespread was the BPP in the first place? You act like it was a mainstream national organization. And was it allowed to even operate or was it attacked by Hoover and the FBI? Correct me if I am wrong, but I think and HBO movie just came out about this.
The conversation isn't about who I did, would, or would not have voted for. You are the one pushing the narrative that there are only two options, and the Democratic Party is the best option for Black people. So I am simply asking you to show that empirically. Pull basic data on employment, education, wages, home ownership, incarceration, police brutality and whatever else........and show me how the measures are better for Black people under Democratic presidents and congresses than under Republican ones. You can go back over the past 10 years, back to 2000, or even 1990 if you want to. Just pull the numbers. Use the BLS or Census or whatever legit sources you find.
I'll wait...................
tweet and ask him to show you how the measures are better for Black people under Democratic presidents and congresses than under Republican ones since he made that choice...
dude..you know who could best answer that question...Eddie S. Glaude Jr. If there is one person who is keenly aware of data...its effects on the black community and the two parties involved its HIM...and what was his choice this past election?
tweet and ask him to show you how the measures are better for Black people under Democratic presidents and congresses than under Republican ones since he made that choice...
Aren't you just as capable of doing basic research? I mean, isn't your core argument that we only have two choices, so we are obligated to pick from one of those two? This is what you have repeatedly said. I just want to see real-world data to support your position. If the differences between the parties are that stark, then this should be very easy for you to do. You could empirically crush everything ADOS is saying.
Dept. of Labor
Eddie S. Glaude Jr. is an intellectual who speaks to the complex dynamics of the American experience. His most well-known books, Democracy in Black: How Race Still Enslaves the American Soul, and In a Shade of Blue: Pragmatism and the Politics of Black America, take a wide look at black communities, the difficulties of race in the United States, and the challenges our democracy face. He is an American critic in the tradition of James Baldwin and Ralph Waldo Emerson.
Let me be clear: if I am alive in November I plan to vote for Joe Biden
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Department Chair
James S. McDonnell Distinguished University Professor
Department of African American Studies
HELL THESE ARE YOUR WORDS:
Down Ballot Voting | Capitol Accountability Project
"Down Ballot Voting" strategy speaks to voting for local candidates/ballot measures that fall below the presidential (national) ticket. As the saying goes, "ALL POLITICS IS LOCAL". In exchange for our vote, CAP demands candidates support Reparations with cash payments and a Black agenda for the...
www.ados-dmv.com
So...Why "Democratic" Down Ballot?
Since 1964, the Democratic Party has overwhelming received Black America's vote!
We have been the most loyal voting block for this party for about 50 years.
"NO BLACK AGENDA NO BLACK VOTE"
Forces the Democratic Party to meet the demands of a black agenda. We will leverage our vote for legislation policies specific for ADOS Communities.
THE QUESTION IS WHY IS ADOS ORG AND A BLACK INTELLECTUAL VOTING FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SINCE THE DATA SHOWS NO GOOD THINGS FOR BLACKS WITH THE DEMS OR THE REPS..
I'm not the one pushing the narrative that there are only two options...thats just the realities.
And the actions of the guy YOU introduced into the debate and ADOS org says the Democratic Party is the best option for Black people.
So you can ask THEM to pull basic data on employment, education, wages, homeownership, incarceration, police brutality and whatever else........and show you how the measures are better for Black people under Democratic presidents and congresses than under Republican ones. Because THEY are saying the democratic party and they are saying joe biden. The question you NEED to be asking is why is that???
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Republican senator says he would’ve been afraid had Capitol rioters been BLM activists
Ron Johnson says pro-Trump insurrectionists ‘love this country’ as critics call for senator’s resignation over racist comments
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“I never really felt threatened,” Johnson told Wisconsin radio host Jay Weber. He said the insurrectionists were mostly “people that love this country, that truly respect law enforcement, would never do anything to break a law”.
“Had the tables been turned and President Donald Trump won the election and those were thousands of Black Lives Matter and antifa protesters I would have been concerned,” Johnson continued."
Dept of Agriculture
Eddie S. Glaude Jr. is an intellectual who speaks to the complex dynamics of the American experience. His most well-known books, Democracy in Black: How Race Still Enslaves the American Soul, and In a Shade of Blue: Pragmatism and the Politics of Black America, take a wide look at black communities, the difficulties of race in the United States, and the challenges our democracy face. He is an American critic in the tradition of James Baldwin and Ralph Waldo Emerson.
Let me be clear: if I am alive in November I plan to vote for Joe Biden
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Department Chair
James S. McDonnell Distinguished University Professor
Department of African American Studies
HELL THESE ARE YOUR WORDS:
Down Ballot Voting | Capitol Accountability Project
"Down Ballot Voting" strategy speaks to voting for local candidates/ballot measures that fall below the presidential (national) ticket. As the saying goes, "ALL POLITICS IS LOCAL". In exchange for our vote, CAP demands candidates support Reparations with cash payments and a Black agenda for the...www.ados-dmv.com
If you're going to quote my words, then quote ALL of them!!
So, address everything I said in the quote above.
The question answers itself in the very quote you're using. And who said that "the data shows no good things for Blacks with the Dems or the Reps"? I simply asked you to pull data for Black Americans from periods under Dems and under the GOP from the last generation. Why is that so difficult for you to do? Do you not know where to get the data or what?
First of all, I am not talking to THEM! I am talking to YOU! If I were conversing with them, then perhaps I would ask. But I am talking to you. I've stated many times that I back policies and positions, not people. So if you are gauging or measuring an issue, isn't the first recourse to gather information about it? If you don't want to gather and review the general Black American data, then just say so. But I have to ask. If you're unwilling to gather and review data, then how do you measure progress or the lack thereof? If you were watching two opposing teams play a sport, and no one is keeping score, then how do you know who won?
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I didn't grow up in that era. Perhaps you did. How widespread was the BPP in the first place? You act like it was a mainstream national organization. And was it allowed to even operate or was it attacked by Hoover and the FBI? Correct me if I am wrong, but I think and HBO movie just came out about this.
The conversation isn't about who I did, would, or would not have voted for. You are the one pushing the narrative that there are only two options, and the Democratic Party is the best option for Black people. So I am simply asking you to show that empirically. Pull basic data on employment, education, wages, home ownership, incarceration, police brutality and whatever else........and show me how the measures are better for Black people under Democratic presidents and congresses than under Republican ones. You can go back over the past 10 years, back to 2000, or even 1990 if you want to. Just pull the numbers. Use the BLS or Census or whatever legit sources you find.
I'll wait...................
Dems haven't had 60+ reps in the senate since the 70's Combined with independents, Obama had a majority for a short time. less than 2 months. The problem is you can always block or delay progress, but when you want to get something done, you need votes from the other side because of the filibuster, and the GOP doesn't want to do anything to help the average American. Right now congress is so toxic, the only way to get anything done is to have a super majority, so we need more dems, not less. You used to have to stay on the floor when you wanted to filibuster, now they can object for weeks and months at a time and go home. It needs to be reformed back to the way it used to be so the GOP can't block progress.
Composition of Congress, by Political Party, 1855-2017
Breakdown of Congress by political party from 1855 to the present.
www.infoplease.com
Obama Debunks the Myth that He had a Supermajority in Congress for Two Years
In a candid interview with The Des Moines Register, President Obama debunked one of Mitt Romney's favorite talking points that Obama had a supermajority in Congress for two years.
www.politicususa.com
used to be? Yea that was a great time for usDems haven't had 60+ reps in the senate since the 70's Combined with independents, Obama had a majority for a short time. less than 2 months. The problem is you can always block or delay progress, but when you want to get something done, you need votes from the other side because of the filibuster, and the GOP doesn't want to do anything to help the average American. Right now congress is so toxic, the only way to get anything done is to have a super majority, so we need more dems, not less. You used to have to stay on the floor when you wanted to filibuster, now they can object for weeks and months at a time and go home. It needs to be reformed back to the way it used to be so the GOP can't block progress.
Composition of Congress, by Political Party, 1855-2017
Breakdown of Congress by political party from 1855 to the present.www.infoplease.com
Obama Debunks the Myth that He had a Supermajority in Congress for Two Years
In a candid interview with The Des Moines Register, President Obama debunked one of Mitt Romney's favorite talking points that Obama had a supermajority in Congress for two years.www.politicususa.com
I don't care to talk about the data because that's the past and elections are about the future and trying to make things better from the past. And you vote for whichever candidate or party you THINK may give the better chance of making the policies you want to come to pass. Hence: if I am alive in November I plan to vote for Joe Biden and Our mantra was to vote down-ballot Democratic.
And your sports analogy is bad because as you say politics isn't a sport.
Now we can keep going around in circles but going by the people YOUR impressed with and influenced by...they made a choice between the two parties but your EGO won't allow you to acknowledge it.
I'm not sure why logical individuals can't understand this. First, I've stated a number of times that if you qualify for the stimulus, take it, spend it. But, I also stand by the fact that when the stimulus money is spent, black folk will be in the same or worse situation. This is and has always been my position. Our government, regardless of which party is in charge, strategically economically cripples black folk and keep us dependent on government assistance just to survive. This happened in the 60's and 80's and we never got off of the tit.
You don't care to talk about the data? You think stats only live in the past? You say elections are about the future. So how are you measuring the present and the past if you're not looking at any empirical data? How to you gauge progress on a given social issue? For example, Joe Biden has said that the American Rescue Plan will cut child poverty in half. So we have to know what the current child poverty rate is. And, after his plan has been implemented and given time to run its course, we then look at the child poverty rate to assess whether the plan was successful or not.
How do you propose to determine that "things are better from the past" if you're not looking at any statistically data that measures it?!?!?!
Go look at my most recent exchanges with geechie and tell me if "logic" is being employed here at all!
Dude is saying point blank that he doesn't even need to look at any social or economic data. I'd hate to see his personal budget or credit report!
Dems haven't had 60+ reps in the senate since the 70's Combined with independents, Obama had a majority for a short time. less than 2 months. The problem is you can always block or delay progress, but when you want to get something done, you need votes from the other side because of the filibuster, and the GOP doesn't want to do anything to help the average American. Right now congress is so toxic, the only way to get anything done is to have a super majority, so we need more dems, not less. You used to have to stay on the floor when you wanted to filibuster, now they can object for weeks and months at a time and go home. It needs to be reformed back to the way it used to be so the GOP can't block progress.
Composition of Congress, by Political Party, 1855-2017
Breakdown of Congress by political party from 1855 to the present.www.infoplease.com
Obama Debunks the Myth that He had a Supermajority in Congress for Two Years
In a candid interview with The Des Moines Register, President Obama debunked one of Mitt Romney's favorite talking points that Obama had a supermajority in Congress for two years.www.politicususa.com
You speak as if the Dems will all fall in line themselves, which they never do. They could have had the nuclear option if it wasn't for Manchin.
you on the other hand you get frozen by the data you look at then get angry that nothings changed much and determine the best course of action is to not vote at all...how did blank out work out again??You don't care to talk about the data? You think stats only live in the past? You say elections are about the future. So how are you measuring the present and the past if you're not looking at any empirical data? How to you gauge progress on a given social issue? For example, Joe Biden has said that the American Rescue Plan will cut child poverty in half. So we have to know what the current child poverty rate is. And, after his plan has been implemented and given time to run its course, we then look at the child poverty rate to assess whether the plan was successful or not.
How do you propose to determine that "things are better from the past" if you're not looking at any statistically data that measures it?!?!?!
Lets see the current data...hmmm one party is gonna put 1400 bucks in your bank account and give tax credits on your kids and the party said fuck that....lets see BETWEEN THE TWO WHICH PARTY ARE YOU MOST LIKELY GOING TO GIVE YOUR VOTE TO COME MID TERMS BASED ON THE CURRENT DATA? OR ARE YOU GOING TO DO ANOTHER BLANK OUT??
u keep saying 1400 like that shit is 14,000...relaxyou on the other hand get frozen by the data you look at the record and get angry that nothings changed much and determine the best course of action is to not vote at all...how did blank out work out again??
Lets see the current data...hmmm one party is gonna put 1400 bucks in your bank account and give tax credits on your kids and the party said fuck that....lets see BETWEEN THE TWO WHICH PARTY ARE YOU MOST LIKELY GOING TO GIVE YOUR VOTE TO COME MID TERMS BASED ON THE CURRENT DATA? OR ARE YOU GOING TO DO ANOTHER BLANK OUT??
no..I'm saying that shit like its better than ZERO or 1000 or less which is what the GOP would have done had they the leverage. Which is the point. here are two parties with leverage in the situation and which party and plan in this situation do you want to prevail?? And thats something I;d like to hear an answer from you and VAiz4hustlaz... which party's stimulus plan did you prefer? All you gotta do is answer rep or dem don't need a dissertation.
And regardless of how YOU personally feel about it it actually helps people. Is it the end-all and be all..hell no but no one said it was.
you on the other hand you get frozen by the data you look at then get angry that nothings changed much and determine the best course of action is to not vote at all...how did blank out work out again??
Lets see the current data...hmmm one party is gonna put 1400 bucks in your bank account and give tax credits on your kids and the party said fuck that....lets see BETWEEN THE TWO WHICH PARTY ARE YOU MOST LIKELY GOING TO GIVE YOUR VOTE TO COME MID TERMS BASED ON THE CURRENT DATA? OR ARE YOU GOING TO DO ANOTHER BLANK OUT??
Are you going to answer how YOU measure progress if YOU don’t look at measurable information? How do YOU determine whether a program or initiative is successful or not?
Whats funny about your post is that you are arguing a point no one has made. Not in this thread and not even in Washington.
i didn't say I don't look at data I said I don't care to talk about it... at the end of the day we all have to make a choice and that choice is based on past events and issues and how they were dealt with BUT its also based on the likelihood of possibilities of getting those things changed. I said this before in another thread
I'll post it here so you can take a shot at it?
BETWEEN THE TWO PARTIES DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN...IN YOUR ESTIMATION WHICH PARTY IS LIKELIER TO ADVANCE THE CAUSE OF REPARATIONS FOR ADOS AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE?
BETWEEN LEFT WING AND RIGHTWING... IN YOUR ESTIMATION WHICH SIDE OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM IS LIKELIER TO ADVANCE THE CAUSE OF REPARATIONS FOR ADOS AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE?
HOW DOES NOT VOTING FOR THE TOP OF THE TICKET INFLUENCE OR ADVANCE THE CAUSE OF REPARATIONS?
WHAT'S YOUR HONEST ESTIMATION AND TIMELINE FOR GETTING REPARATIONS DONE?? HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE
now we've already seen what not voting at the top of the ballot has done
and instead of reparations you can place in any number of other issues you want.