Joe Budden podcast done? No Rory or Mal for 2nd straight episode

keone

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The JBP kicks off the second episode of the year with their reactions to Jonathan Majors appearance on Good Morning America (15:35) before turning to music they are looking forward to in 2024 amid SZA’s frustrations with leaked music (36:52). Ari Lennox opens up about her experience on the Rod Wave tour (39:18), Kevin Hart’s ex wife is joining Katt Williams on tour (1:04:36), and Ice has a question for the room regarding exposure culture (1:16:49). Also, the Golden Globes (1:45:43), a door came off during an Alaskan Airlines flight (2:10:25), and much more!
 

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drake is available on the $5 tier - yeah Umar is $25

true

You are exactly right lol. This is why asked what the specifics of his deal was with patreon. He should have done a part 1 and a part 2 behind paywall. He does it with his own team also. Then he charged 25 instead of 5.

That umar interview was easy 5 mill to 10 mill views. Kevin Samuel did 7 mil.
Even his new Nicki interview hasnt cracked a millie yet. I think he put that behind paywall too.

Part 1 of the Dr. Umar interview is on the $5 tier. From what I've read, part two is on the $10 tier, but that could be wrong.

I don't know if the Nicki interview was on the $5 tier for an extended period, but it's on YouTube.

Apparently, there is a $50 that basically allows you to interact with the show more. I thought part of the show was in the $25 tier, so either I was mistaken or they changed this recently. I remember Joe mentioning a new tier for fans to actually come to the show as a quasi internship. The $50 tier isn't that and it seems way too low for that level of access/opportunity.

Long-term, this gets very competitive. For me, I don't mind supporting something I regularly watch on the lower tier of $5. In this instance, you really are mostly getting an early drop with exclusives thrown in occasionally. However, how many people am I going to support? It becomes the same issue thst is starting with every movie company starting their own app. It defects the original purpose of moving away from cable. Not that it's much better, but why not sell an exclusive pod as a subscription and stand-alone product. I guess you can technically do that by canceling your subscription like people do when a season for a series they like ends.

So far, web monetization has failed, but maybe something in-between is workable. In theory content creators are paid in real time based on engagement. The downside is content turns into something similar to a utility service. However, you as a customer have access to more content without signing up to 50 different creators across multiple platforms. You are more or less in control of what you are willing to spend for the month. If I'm only interested in seeing the Dr. Umar episodes, I only pay for those videos and if I'm not interested in seeing the last 1 hour of let's say 5 hours I only pay for 4.
 

keone

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Part 1 of the Dr. Umar interview is on the $5 tier. From what I've read, part two is on the $10 tier, but that could be wrong.

I don't know if the Nicki interview was on the $5 tier for an extended period, but it's on YouTube.

Apparently, there is a $50 that basically allows you to interact with the show more. I thought part of the show was in the $25 tier, so either I was mistaken or they changed this recently. I remember Joe mentioning a new tier for fans to actually come to the show as a quasi internship. The $50 tier isn't that and it seems way too low for that level of access/opportunity.

Long-term, this gets very competitive. For me, I don't mind supporting something I regularly watch on the lower tier of $5. In this instance, you really are mostly getting an early drop with exclusives thrown in occasionally. However, how many people am I going to support? It becomes the same issue thst is starting with every movie company starting their own app. It defects the original purpose of moving away from cable. Not that it's much better, but why not sell an exclusive pod as a subscription and stand-alone product. I guess you can technically do that by canceling your subscription like people do when a season for a series they like ends.

So far, web monetization has failed, but maybe something in-between is workable. In theory content creators are paid in real time based on engagement. The downside is content turns into something similar to a utility service. However, you as a customer have access to more content without signing up to 50 different creators across multiple platforms. You are more or less in control of what you are willing to spend for the month. If I'm only interested in seeing the Dr. Umar episodes, I only pay for those videos and if I'm not interested in seeing the last 1 hour of let's say 5 hours I only pay for 4.
it failed cause joe didnt read the room.
he sacrificed his channel for puffy and drake
and @ViCiouS said he has 5 dollar donations and he went up with dr umar?

its joe himself messing up his bizz.
 

guyver

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it failed cause joe didnt read the room.
he sacrificed his channel for puffy and drake
and @ViCiouS said he has 5 dollar donations and he went up with dr umar?

its joe himself messing up his bizz.

To my knowledge, Joe has never used web monetization.

I'm not sure about the going up part. The tiers have been from $5 to $25/50 for awhile. That didn't change with Umar. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are saying.
 

ViCiouS

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it failed cause joe didnt read the room.
he sacrificed his channel for puffy and drake
and @ViCiouS said he has 5 dollar donations and he went up with dr umar?

its joe himself messing up his bizz.
nah joe isn't messing up his business- 23 was a break out year - now can he maintain that growth? :dunno:
yes along the way in 23 he and Ian made mistakes - but in the process they exceeded their own expectations and that of their competition

to be clear Patreon has 5 10 25 and 50 dollar tiers
Umar interview is available to the 25 and up
 

keone

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nah joe isn't messing up his business- 23 was a break out year - now can he maintain that growth? :dunno:
yes along the way in 23 he and Ian made mistakes - but in the process they exceeded their own expectations and that of their competition

to be clear Patreon has 5 10 25 and 50 dollar tiers
Umar interview is available to the 25 and up
not saying u are wrong but
thats short therm business
shanneon made like a 500k to a million subs
lets not give this dude too much credit
 

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not saying u are wrong but
thats short therm business
shanneon made like a 500k to a million subs
lets not give this dude too much credit
you looking at it wrong- there is no real comparing between Shay and Budden
Shay is never an indy
its basically - do you want to be Dave Chappelle or Kevin Hart?
 

D24OHA

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not saying u are wrong but
thats short therm business
shanneon made like a 500k to a million subs
lets not give this dude too much credit
500K - 1 million subs when you have a machine behind you, isn't really that impressive.

Shay Shay is mainstream. I don't know the particulars, but I would guess Shannon is not the main check writer.


According to this article Unc, pretty much became a sub label under The Volume umbrella. They do "revenue sharing," but Unc has new cameras, better lighting, that studio......is that his? The videographer / sound engineer are those his people. Sadly, the answer is probably no.

So Colin Cowherd puts the money up front, they know exactly how much each episode costs to make. After the ads make a profit, Unc gets a piece of the Volume pie and he can bring new pods into the fold under his Shay Shay Media label.
("You're signed to a ....., that's signed to a....., that's signed to 3 ......" comes to mind)
 

D24OHA

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But yes @keone I think there may have been a better way to handle the Umar interview.

However, I don't think anyone saw that monster Katt interview coming. It completely stepped on and dominated urban (and a lot of mainstream) conversations for 24-48 hrs. The Dave Chappelle Netflix Special, Kevin Hart/ Chris Rock Headliners Only, Umar and Nicki interviews, all were pushed aside immediately ......

So even if you have a Marshal Mathers EP, sometimes Country Grammar comes along and you gotta clear out.
 

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D24OHA

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no wonder joe and cam are beefin
they the same person

Are they though?

Cam threatened to sue Joe/Mel over her comments........ (civilian route,)
Then put Mel's face on the crotch of his jeans, posted the pics and then wants us to believe that's not who that is.


Joe has done some sucka ass shit, but has maintained hes not about that street life. He is strictly a civilian.

The audacity of Cams actions and then to say he's still gangsta...........?

You wanted the world to see that woman on your pants and now you're saying we've got it wrong, cuz you might get sued!......hmmmm
 

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Interesting......

Mandii and Medinah got into it late last year, their friendship may be over and now Mandii is acting like she "doesn't know" who Olivia is,

Though Mandii has stated the Olivia situation is the main reason she doesn't fuck with Joe like that..... I would think she would've tried to mend things with O after that........but she's standing on what she said and did back then......

She may be more like Joe than she thinks.

Her Ex and success have been a wake up call to her
 

keone

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Are they though?

Cam threatened to sue Joe/Mel over her comments........ (civilian route,)
Then put Mel's face on the crotch of his jeans, posted the pics and then wants us to believe that's not who that is.


Joe has done some sucka ass shit, but has maintained hes not about that street life. He is strictly a civilian.

The audacity of Cams actions and then to say he's still gangsta...........?

You wanted the world to see that woman on your pants and now you're saying we've got it wrong, cuz you might get sued!......hmmmm
what i meant with same person
they both do something
then come back and say its not what we thought
joe is gaslight king and cam is one too

as for cam being gangsta lol
his track record sure says otherwise lol
we dont take him serious
 

keone

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Interesting......

Mandii and Medinah got into it late last year, their friendship may be over and now Mandii is acting like she "doesn't know" who Olivia is,

Though Mandii has stated the Olivia situation is the main reason she doesn't fuck with Joe like that..... I would think she would've tried to mend things with O after that........but she's standing on what she said and did back then......

She may be more like Joe than she thinks.

Her Ex and success have been a wake up call to her
mandii full of shit
she admitted to ride it out for money
after that i can see why OD is like kiss my ass
and joe is like kiss my ass too
cause u stayed now suddenly we beefin cause of Dope
joe is the guilty guy dont get me wrong
but she is has some too
 

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Interesting......

Mandii and Medinah got into it late last year, their friendship may be over and now Mandii is acting like she "doesn't know" who Olivia is,

Though Mandii has stated the Olivia situation is the main reason she doesn't fuck with Joe like that..... I would think she would've tried to mend things with O after that........but she's standing on what she said and did back then......

She may be more like Joe than she thinks.

Her Ex and success have been a wake up call to her

Who’s her ex?
 

keone

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This isn't the same, that shit Cam did was corny as shit and he seems desperate for attention because people started talking about Shannon
u think so? wouldnt be surprised. lol but they were all slick hatin tho
joe too trying to shit on his interview style

but i explained it earlier the reason i said they the same
is they will do or say something watch the reaction
then come back next da and say thats not what i meant
they dont stand on business like ti's son lol
 

D24OHA

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Who’s her ex?

No one famous, but the dude had her open.

She said she cooked for the mfkr, (mandii doesn't cook for me typically), she engratiated him to her sex clubs and freaky friend groups. Allegedly she and Medinah from Cocktales Pod had a 3some with him, and hes fucked a few other ppl she knew and was OK with.....

Then she stated he was envious of her success, "why do you need to own a studio, why do you have to go on tour,.....etc?" And would try to bring her down and/or control her.....

But the straw that broke the camels back, mfkr was sleeping with people she didn't know about. Hitting up the sex club without her, had a secret girlfriend on the side.....

She's like, if I let you fuck other women, why hide a whole gf, why go to MY sex clubs when I'm out of town and fuck randoms there, oh and the mfkr lied about having and then beating cancer to get sympathy box.
 

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u think so? wouldnt be surprised. lol but they were all slick hatin tho
joe too trying to shit on his interview style

but i explained it earlier the reason i said they the same
is they will do or say something watch the reaction
then come back next da and say thats not what i meant
they dont stand on business like ti's son lol

You keep talking abut Joe

but Shannon is more in the lane with Cam, Gilbert, Brandon, Stephen Jackson and all the other sports podcast

This is what happens when you're aligned with sponsors...they're going to want you to go viral, views and get engagement to get their monies worth.

It shouldn't be a competition thing with listeners the way you make it out to be though
 

keone

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No one famous, but the dude had her open.

She said she cooked for the mfkr, (mandii doesn't cook for me typically), she engratiated him to her sex clubs and freaky friend groups. Allegedly she and Medinah from Cocktales Pod had a 3some with him, and hes fucked a few other ppl she knew and was OK with.....

Then she stated he was envious of her success, "why do you need to own a studio, why do you have to go on tour,.....etc?" And would try to bring her down and/or control her.....

But the straw that broke the camels back, mfkr was sleeping with people she didn't know about. Hitting up the sex club without her, had a secret girlfriend on the side.....

She's like, if I let you fuck other women, why hide a whole gf, why go to MY sex clubs when I'm ou
t of town and fuck randoms there, oh and the mfkr lied about having and then beating cancer to get sympathy box.
this has always confused me
both sides
 
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