Joe Budden podcast done? No Rory or Mal for 2nd straight episode

D24OHA

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So you don't think Kevin overall point was valid?

Where you think he being dishonest? About opening the books?

I think Kev enjoyed being petty a little too much....
Joe and Kev are not friends...Kev is sensitive to the "he's not funny" comments and Joe has been pretty vocal on the #1 urban podcast that Kev isn't funny....

But yes Kev made some valid points....
 

playahaitian

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Wit Rory it's business....

"Read the contract"

With Mal it's personal.....

"You picked that white boy over me!"
"You lived with me"
"We go waaaaay back!"

but see if you brother..

I can see the road to forgiveness MORE than just some dude I was doing business with.

Especially if it seems it was THAT WHITE BOY who sowed the seeds of discontent in our brotherhood

something Joe should be VERY familiar with,.
 

playahaitian

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trust is gone
and
Mal is in arrested development

I just don't get STILL why Mal was willing to DIE on that hill built by Rory

AGAIN I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND Mal going to Joe and saying let me be peacemaker

and the way Joe came at him... shocked him and hurt him

Mal HAS that

if that is TRUE?

That is LEGIT that is real and genuine and Joe WRONG for THAT and gotta make good

I do NOT think Mal went with Rory cause he "white"

HOWEVER...

the optics are wrong and Mal should have been MAN enough to try to make peace with Joe

ONE ON ONE with Rory NOT involved.

FIRST

then work on the show.

But now all the subsequent stuff about Mal REALLY weakens my stance

but that is the ONLY situation where I think Mal was real legit.
 

DC_Dude

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Kevin is trying too hard, either ignorant of details or being dishonest

yes... between R&M 3 lawyers negotiated and reviewed the contracts for them

but these guys (who freely gave opinions AND advice on business for years) are in a 8 week dispute and still remain ignorant of their own contracts

worse they have shown how grossly uninformed of the entertainment business they are

"Percent Partnership" :lol:

Fam, I initially thought Rory was pocket watching and twisted Mal...
Rory is either deceptive and great at playing dumb or
Ak is right and Rory is just riding on his friends coat tails with the Duce-palooza

based on yesterday, I now think this is sabotage...
someone or people are feeding R&M w/o explaining the contract and business relationship they agreed to
Personally I think this is what’s going on. Got to be...
 

DC_Dude

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I think Kev enjoyed being petty a little too much....
Joe and Kev are not friends...Kev is sensitive to the "he's not funny" comments and Joe has been pretty vocal on the #1 urban podcast that Kev isn't funny....

But yes Kev made some valid points....
And most people feel that way if we being honest. Ask any black person in America and most will say Kev is not the funniest dude out here
 

Amajorfucup

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Kevin is trying too hard, either ignorant of details or being dishonest

yes... between R&M 3 lawyers negotiated and reviewed the contracts for them

but these guys (who freely gave opinions AND advice on business for years) are in a 8 week dispute and still remain ignorant of their own contracts

worse they have shown how grossly uninformed of the entertainment business they are

"Percent Partnership" :lol:

Fam, I initially thought Rory was pocket watching and twisted Mal...
Rory is either deceptive and great at playing dumb or
Ak is right and Rory is just riding on his friends coat tails with the Duce-palooza

based on yesterday, I now think this is sabotage...
someone or people are feeding R&M w/o explaining the contract and business relationship they agreed to
All this can be true. But when you request an accounting of things and you get handed an excel spread sheet. Fuckery is afoot. And if your "partner" tells you the accounting firm that you have on payroll is gonna take a MONTH to send you the real numbers.. Fuckery is afoot. The commentary from both parties based around that issue pretty much let me know all i needed to know.. .That and how Joe responded to the 400k error issue.

And yes, "percent partnership" is hilarious. Its a shame how so many young people have convinced themselves that being an employee is a bad word. To the point where they are delusional about their own reality.


Let me tell you something... This niggas full of shit.
 

DC_Dude

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All this can be true. But when you request an accounting of things and you get handed an excel spread sheet. Fuckery is afoot. And if your "partner" tells you the accounting firm that you have on payroll is gonna take a MONTH to send you the real numbers.. Fuckery is afoot. The commentary from both parties based around that issue pretty much let me know all i needed to know.. .That and how Joe responded to the 400k error issue.

And yes, "percent partnership" is hilarious. Its a shame how so many young people have convinced themselves that being an employee is a bad word. To the point where they are delusional about their own reality.


Let me tell you something... This niggas full of shit.
It’s funny because on the I AM Athlete podcast this week they talked about how in NASCAR you can either take a base salary or a percentage of the purse. Really interesting how everyone was like give me that base and I’ll make up the rest in endorsements.
Time stamp 45:40
 

DC_Dude

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very interesting breakdown from 2 lawyers. What I find the most interesting is that both state they should have still came to work regardless of any issues. Them not coming to work could be a breach of their contract
 
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DC_Dude

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Is Joe working on a deal with AK? In the lawyer video above he mentioned there were rumors that’s what’s been going on.
 

ViCiouS

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All this can be true. But when you request an accounting of things and you get handed an excel spread sheet. Fuckery is afoot. And if your "partner" tells you the accounting firm that you have on payroll is gonna take a MONTH to send you the real numbers.. Fuckery is afoot. The commentary from both parties based around that issue pretty much let me know all i needed to know.. .That and how Joe responded to the 400k error issue.
depends
how was "accounting" defined in the contract?
were content (specific revenue streams) format delivery method & schedule specified in the contract?

Was the accounting requested 6 weeks ago outside of the terms listed in contract?

both Rory and Joe referred to this occasion as an audit
and Rory did say yesterday - that during that month his accountant went to the firm and was given access to podcast records
 
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Amajorfucup

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Disagree. We will never know the particulars. But i can tell you, any accounting firm handling million dollar business entities keeps ongoing and accrued books. Thats literally why you task them with doing your accounts; So at the end of the year you arent scrambling to get shit compiled and organized to file. And at any time when you call with a request for financials or specifics they have a fiduciary duty to hand that shit over ASAP. Any "partner" telling you it will take a month to get requested information/documentation concerning real time numbers and accounting is FULL OF SHIT.
 

ViCiouS

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Disagree. We will never know the particulars. But i can tell you, any accounting firm handling million dollar business entities keeps ongoing and accrued books. Thats literally why you task them with doing your accounts; So at the end of the year you arent scrambling to get shit compiled and organized to file. And at any time when you call with a request for financials or specifics they have a fiduciary duty to hand that shit over ASAP. Any "partner" telling you it will take a month to get requested information/documentation concerning real time numbers and accounting is FULL OF SHIT.
they aren't partners
they are contractors or employees with profit share / participation

requesting financial info from their employer...

terms of their access to the info and recourse is governed by the contract they signed
 

Amajorfucup

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they aren't partners
they are contractors or employees with profit share / participation

requesting financial info from their employer...

terms of their access and recourse is governed by the contract they signed
Im well aware of how employee contracts work. I think you know this.

You're focusing on the wrong thing tho. We dont have to even discuss legalese. Im saying when your "partner" is engaging in such blatant stall tactics, outright lies, and shenanigans , fuck shit is present. If it were a matter of contractual rights, the appropriate response would have been "No" to the request. For him to first provide an excel spread sheet and then stall when called out on the bullshit tells me alot. There were other things that colored my opinion on the matter as well, but hearing both parties discuss that issue and the 400k dispute let me know Joe is on some deceptive shit that goes a bit beyond just being a control freak and asshole.
 

keone

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profit base percentage still doesnt mean they owners
joe is not obligated to show them where the money is going.
 

Amajorfucup

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profit base percentage still doesnt mean they owners
joe is not obligated to show them where the money is going.
No one thinks they are owners but them. But he does have to show them what figures are being used to determine profit, how profit is defined, and what those profit numbers are in order to determine their percentage pay. Assuming what they are saying about their pay model is accurate. But again, we will never know those details imo.. Im going off the actions and responses, and Joes movements are those of someone who isnt being forthcoming or honest.
 

ViCiouS

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Im well aware of how employee contracts work. I think you know this.

You're focusing on the wrong thing tho. We dont have to even discuss legalese. Im saying when your "partner" is engaging in such blatant stall tactics, outright lies, and shenanigans , fuck shit is present. If it were a matter of contractual rights, the appropriate response would have been "No" to the request. For him to first provide an excel spread sheet and then stall when called out on the bullshit tells me alot. There were other things that colored my opinion on the matter as well, but hearing both parties discuss that issue and the 400k dispute let me know Joe is on some deceptive shit that goes a bit beyond just being a control freak and asshole.
here is the thing - none of parties have relayed info clearly

based on Ian
the line items excel sheets were the method outlined in contract

based on joe
a "full accounting" was given even though he wasn't required to

based on joe and rory
rory or his attorney accused the accounting firm of presenting fraudulent numbers

based on joe
an audit was authorized even though he wasn't required to

Yesterday Joe Rory Mal all have said its resolved...
don't know if doing the audit was the resolution or if its the results
don't know if the audit is jbp or for entire jbn
 

keone

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No one thinks they are owners but them. But he does have to show them what figures are being used to determine profit, how profit is defined, and what those profit numbers are in order to determine their percentage pay. Assuming what they are saying about their pay model is accurate. But again, we will never know those details imo.. Im going off the actions and responses, and Joes movements are those of someone who isnt being forthcoming or honest.
here is the problem they kept saying we are friends and dont care about the money
mal said it was a respect thing. now we find out it was a money thing all along.
if you keep saying money is not important agreeing with joe for at least 2 or 3 years
then this shit is most likely going to happen.

thats why i always laughed when they were talking about money.
they all cause the situation there are in.
 
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