JOKER (2019) Discussion Thread Starring Joaquin Phoenix (Update 9/12/19) Leaked Footage.. GOOD GAWD
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Praise : When it was announced that the sequel to 2019's highly successful Joker film was going to be a musical my response was much like everyone else's. Huh? How is that going to work?!? Then I started thinking about a movie musical i liked years ago called Sweeney Todd and if it's like that it may work. As Arthur Fleck
Joaquin Phoenix turns in a good performance slipping easily into song and dance numbers but at least for a moment here and there he's that Joker from the first film. As another Arkham asylum inmate Lee Quinzel a.k.a. “Harley Quinn” Lady Gaga of course handles the role with ease as she belts out familiar tunes. Two broken and traumatized people bonding i was on board with it. The actors have great chemistry. The opening of the movie was very creative and fun and i really enjoyed it. Also Fleck wallowing in misery as he goes through competence hearings to see if he's sane enough for a multiple murder trial appealed to me. Characters suddenly breaking into song ,with tunes from the past was charming.....for about an hour.
PROBLEMS: Phoenix and Director director/co-writer Todd Phillips stated they loved taking on the character and of course the success of the first movie. I can see them putting their heads together saying hey let's make the sequel a musical. This likely appealed to Phoenix because he already portrayed Johnny Cash. But this idea fell apart for me after the first hour. I knew exactly where this movie was going and what bits were going to turn out to be. It really started to feel like a parody of two of the most infamous DC characters. It's really dissapointing because I could see what could have and what should have been done with these characters but they're both watered down here and just doesn't lead up to anything entertaining or involving. It just feels like an odd experiment that ends with the same one note path a writer and Director takes when they sign off from a character.
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Joaquin Phoenix turns in a good performance slipping easily into song and dance numbers but at least for a moment here and there he's that Joker from the first film. As another Arkham asylum inmate Lee Quinzel a.k.a. “Harley Quinn” Lady Gaga of course handles the role with ease as she belts out familiar tunes. Two broken and traumatized people bonding i was on board with it. The actors have great chemistry. The opening of the movie was very creative and fun and i really enjoyed it. Also Fleck wallowing in misery as he goes through competence hearings to see if he's sane enough for a multiple murder trial appealed to me. Characters suddenly breaking into song ,with tunes from the past was charming.....for about an hour.
PROBLEMS: Phoenix and Director director/co-writer Todd Phillips stated they loved taking on the character and of course the success of the first movie. I can see them putting their heads together saying hey let's make the sequel a musical. This likely appealed to Phoenix because he already portrayed Johnny Cash. But this idea fell apart for me after the first hour. I knew exactly where this movie was going and what bits were going to turn out to be. It really started to feel like a parody of two of the most infamous DC characters. It's really dissapointing because I could see what could have and what should have been done with these characters but they're both watered down here and just doesn't lead up to anything entertaining or involving. It just feels like an odd experiment that ends with the same one note path a writer and Director takes when they sign off from a character.
Scale of 1 to 10 a 5
I thought people were just following a social media trend by saying it was awful but damn if yall are saying it is true must be smh
When he leaves the court at the end and those two guys in Joker masks pick him, this is where I thought they were going with It.Real Joke was like shows over
Francis Ford Coppola Praises Todd Phillips as ‘Joker: Folie à Deux’ Flails: “He’s Always One Step Ahead of the Audience”
The 'Joker' sequel is the first Hollywood comic book pic in history to receive a D CinemaScore — only slightly worse than the D+ awarded Coppola's box office flop 'Megalopolis.'www.hollywoodreporter.com
@ViCiouS
yeah I saw that bullsh*t
Has anyone seen this? And is it any good?
Its VERY good
TV News: The Penguin series coming to HBO Max (a ‘Scarface-Like’ Origin Story) Updates: New Cast additions
HBO Max Is Giving the Penguin a ‘Scarface-Like’ Origin Story By Rebecca Alter@ralter Photo-Illustration: Vulture; Photos by Warner Bros. and Universal Pictures Because not every single Batman villain origin story can be about the Joker or that one Lady Joker with the Betty Boop voice, HBO Max...
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Ok cool! I got max so ima watch it tonight
let me know what you think.
Is there a thread for the show alteady?
yeah I posted it before
TV News: The Penguin series coming to HBO Max (a ‘Scarface-Like’ Origin Story) Updates: New Cast additions
HBO Max Is Giving the Penguin a ‘Scarface-Like’ Origin Story By Rebecca Alter@ralter Photo-Illustration: Vulture; Photos by Warner Bros. and Universal Pictures Because not every single Batman villain origin story can be about the Joker or that one Lady Joker with the Betty Boop voice, HBO Max...
www.bgol.us
Interesting….
‘Joker 2’ moviegoers are leaving theaters mid-showing: ‘What the f–k is this?’
Amid poor reviews from audiences, “Joker: Folie à Deux” still opened at No. 1 with $40 million. However, the number was significantly down from the $96.2 million the original movie grossed in its 2019 debut.
By Alexandra Bellusci
Oct. 7, 2024
nypost.com
‘Joker 2’ moviegoers are leaving theaters mid-showing: ‘What the f–k is this?’
Amid poor reviews from audiences, “Joker: Folie à Deux” still opened at No. 1 with $40 million. However, the number was significantly down from the $96.2 million the original movie grossed in its 2019 debut.
By Alexandra Bellusci
Oct. 7, 2024
‘Joker 2’ moviegoers are leaving theaters mid-showing: ‘What the f–k is this?’
“The reviews are not saying it’s bad, but everyone is leaving early. What the f–k is this?” one critic said.
nypost.com
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www.hollywoodreporter.com
WTF??!!
Why No One Will Get Fired Over ‘Joker: Folie à Deux’
"It's a huge disaster, but what is the fallout?" asks one source after the sequel to the $1 billion hit bombs at the box office and is rejected by critics and audiences alike.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
WTF??!!
Why No One Will Get Fired Over ‘Joker: Folie à Deux’
"It's a huge disaster, but what is the fallout?" asks one source after the sequel to the $1 billion hit bombs at the box office and is rejected by critics and audiences alike.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
Christopher Nolan changed the ending of «Joker», and the idea for the sequel came to Joaquin Phoenix in a dream, — The Hollywood Reporter
The Hollywood Reporter (THR) published the material about the behind-the-scenes of «Joker: Madness for Two».
itc.ua
Todd Phillips Is Moving on After ‘Joker: Folie à Deux’: “My Time in the DC Universe Was These Two Films”
The writer-director joined stars Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga at the Los Angeles premiere of the 'Joker' sequel on Monday.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
Joker 2's BTS Problems Revealed In Report, More Insiders Blame Todd Phillips For Box Office Disaster
Joker 2's behind-the-scenes issues unravel.
screenrant.com
I hated that twist ending bullshit with the first movie. I generally hate it when movies end on some 'was it all or partly a dream' bullshit.
I guess directors do it, thinking it will make people want to go back and rewatch the movie to see what was real and what wasn't.
I mostly walk away feeling like my time was wasted watching an unreliable narrator half tell an fever dream. And they decided to add musical elements to that, so now the audience can spend the while movie wondering if anything is really happening.
I guess directors do it, thinking it will make people want to go back and rewatch the movie to see what was real and what wasn't.
I mostly walk away feeling like my time was wasted watching an unreliable narrator half tell an fever dream. And they decided to add musical elements to that, so now the audience can spend the while movie wondering if anything is really happening.
I hated that twist ending bullshit with the first movie. I generally hate it when movies end on some 'was it all or partly a dream' bullshit.
I guess directors do it, thinking it will make people want to go back and rewatch the movie to see what was real and what wasn't.
I mostly walk away feeling like my time was wasted watching an unreliable narrator half tell an fever dream. And they decided to add musical elements to that, so now the audience can spend the while movie wondering if anything is really happening.
Basically It’s Inception in the DC world?
Maybe what everyone doesn’t understand and don’t like about the movie is the actual joke.
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The actual joke this was supposed to be a student film , a fan film, a straight to b video, but hollywood decided to add scenes with the guy wearing clown makeup and decided to call it “the joker”.. they knew the actual movie “ schizo” wasn’t gonna get no burn and people wouldn’t watch it.. but once you put 1 of the biggest comic book villain name in the title it became a billion dollar film
hollywood producers when they saw they just did the greatest scam / heist on the consumer to get a billion dollars on a shitty b movie
That's hilariousI read it on Reddit but here's the info on the wiki:
Arthur wanders through Gotham and encounters Lee outside his old apartment, but she rejects him for renouncing his Joker persona and admits that her pregnancy was another lie before she leaves. The police apprehend Arthur and return him to Arkham. The next day, a patient approaches Arthur and begins to tell him a joke before repeatedly stabbing Arthur in the stomach. As Arthur bleeds to death, the young patient carves a smile into his face while laughing
Apparently, the REAL Joker is some other mental patient in Arkham Asylum
I swear dudes on BGOL could be comedy writers. For real tho, how did the movie really end?
‘Joker 2’ Actor Behind That Twist Ending Kept It a Secret for Two Years. He’s Now Speaking Out: Todd Phillips ‘Has Balls to Make Such a Bold Swing’
Connor Storrie couldn't tell anyone for two years about his 'Joker: Folie à Deux' role, an inmate who kills Arthur Fleck and becomes the real Joker.
variety.com