JOKER (2019) Discussion Thread Starring Joaquin Phoenix (Update 9/12/19) Leaked Footage.. GOOD GAWD

playahaitian

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I think that's their plan. Instead have one big interconnecting cinematic universe, they're doing one-shots, elsewhere stories and maybe a trilogy or two. Kind of like the comics where you have different creators come in and give their take on the characters.

Boom.

And just so happens to be exactly what Marc and Kevin told them to do a year ago on fatman on batman.
 
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Shit since they throwing out budgets pass me 1 I always had a origin story for a black joker.. Not necessarily crazy but more of a product of his enviroment... He grew up in the poorest of the poorest of gotham.. Pretty much due to certain events killed at an early age in self defense.. He hated criminals and formed a group at an early age to eliminate, control .policing his area ..extorting drugdealers, protecting hookers, giving back to the community that Gotham forgot about.. Hes part Omar from the wire, part vigilante, part Nino brown... He's hated by the mafia cause he represents defiance, order in the black community, and he won't allow them to operate in the black community unless he gets pc and overseer all their operations..of course that creates friction and they want his head for it.. They try to order a hit on him using paid police officers.. He defends himself...Batman happens to interfere during this ordeal without knowing the history.. Injuring the joker severely... His skin gets discolored, his mouth is damaged(explains his scars)..gets arrested... Attempts to commit suicide...meets Harley when he gets physiological evaluated.. Gets broken out thanks to the scarecrow invasion, and wants revenge on bats..that's where dark knight begins..revenge movie..lot of stuff I left out but you get it
 

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Idk man, I feel like it's gonna be kinda cool

Joaquin is way better suited to this kinda role than that pussy they had in suicide squad
Lol...still haven't seen the 2nd half of that movie.. It shouldve been joker vs suicide squad...but nope it was something else
 

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Idk man, I feel like it's gonna be kinda cool

Joaquin is way better suited to this kinda role than that pussy they had in suicide squad

My only gripe is he's old as shit so idk how many movies we could get out of him

As far as the intensity and crazy required to pull it off yes he can do it with ease

The other joker dude from suicide squad was just a hipster with a slight temper

Where they're fucking up is not casting Jerome from Gotham to just be the joker from here on out

He's young enough to play the joker for the next 20 years and his joker is only rivaled by Jack and Heath.
 
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I think he will be the best Joker only second to Ledger...and he may be better because it looks like we'll be able to see the whole transition to "Joker"..."one bad day"..
 

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My only gripe is he's old as shit so idk how many movies we could get out of him

As far as the intensity and crazy required to pull it off yes he can do it with ease

The other joker dude from suicide squad was just a hipster with a slight temper

Where they're fucking up is not casting Jerome from Gotham to just be the joker from here on out

He's young wnoeno to play the joker for the next 20 years and his joker is only rivaled by Jack and Heath.

Facts.
 

playahaitian

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Shit since they throwing out budgets pass me 1 I always had a origin story for a black joker.. Not necessarily crazy but more of a product of his enviroment... He grew up in the poorest of the poorest of gotham.. Pretty much due to certain events killed at an early age in self defense.. He hated criminals and formed a group at an early age to eliminate, control .policing his area ..extorting drugdealers, protecting hookers, giving back to the community that Gotham forgot about.. Hes part Omar from the wire, part vigilante, part Nino brown... He's hated by the mafia cause he represents defiance, order in the black community, and he won't allow them to operate in the black community unless he gets pc and overseer all their operations..of course that creates friction and they want his head for it.. They try to order a hit on him using paid police officers.. He defends himself...Batman happens to interfere during this ordeal without knowing the history.. Injuring the joker severely... His skin gets discolored, his mouth is damaged(explains his scars)..gets arrested... Attempts to commit suicide...meets Harley when he gets physiological evaluated.. Gets broken out thanks to the scarecrow invasion, and wants revenge on bats..that's where dark knight begins..revenge movie..lot of stuff I left out but you get it

Delete this...

And get to writing.

That was a great premise.
 

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Where they're fucking up is not casting Jerome from Gotham to just be the joker from here on out

He's young wnoeno to play the joker for the next 20 years and his joker is only rivaled by Jack and Heath.
agree. But DC always does the opposite of what their fans want.
 

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Delete this...

And get to writing.

That was a great premise.
Hehe I've been telling ya that story for yrs... Even knew how to connect it to dark knight..recreated dark knight rises, and how to connect suicide squad with it... Dark knight rises would of had bane... But joker would've defeated him and all the while bane taking over Gotham joker would've had his crew and Harley doing a heist on the low low stealing mad money for the poor..when it was all said and done everybody wouldve blame bane for the disappearance of all the money.. "Robin" would've trained to turn into the new batman as you saw at the end of rises... His first deed would've tried to catch the joker and harley.. But only catches harley... Which drives him violent cause she'd be the only thing that he loved and kept him from eating a bullet... He finds robin and beats him to death(infamous crowbar) ... Enter suicide squad story...after rises joker accumulates massive money and fame... Saving Gotham from bane, giving money to the poor in diff countries, cities, he represents a symbol of hope to poor people.. He represents defiance to injustice...people start wearing clown mask, paint their faces and stand up against police brutality, had politics, poverty, etc.. His entity becomes a danger to the powers that be.. They can't directly kill him cause he's heavily guarded by the people and also killing him they would cause massive riots worldwide... So enter the creation of suicide squad... They want to get a squad of villains together to try to kill him because his entity is to dangerous for the people in power.. Harley is activated to pretty much to attempt to wheel him in without her knowing the bigger plan they have..that was juss the bases lol..
 

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Yo... I’d watch that and buy it on blu-ray!

Shit since they throwing out budgets pass me 1 I always had a origin story for a black joker.. Not necessarily crazy but more of a product of his enviroment... He grew up in the poorest of the poorest of gotham.. Pretty much due to certain events killed at an early age in self defense.. He hated criminals and formed a group at an early age to eliminate, control .policing his area ..extorting drugdealers, protecting hookers, giving back to the community that Gotham forgot about.. Hes part Omar from the wire, part vigilante, part Nino brown... He's hated by the mafia cause he represents defiance, order in the black community, and he won't allow them to operate in the black community unless he gets pc and overseer all their operations..of course that creates friction and they want his head for it.. They try to order a hit on him using paid police officers.. He defends himself...Batman happens to interfere during this ordeal without knowing the history.. Injuring the joker severely... His skin gets discolored, his mouth is damaged(explains his scars)..gets arrested... Attempts to commit suicide...meets Harley when he gets physiological evaluated.. Gets broken out thanks to the scarecrow invasion, and wants revenge on bats..that's where dark knight begins..revenge movie..lot of stuff I left out but you get it
 

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My only gripe is he's old as shit so idk how many movies we could get out of him

As far as the intensity and crazy required to pull it off yes he can do it with ease

The other joker dude from suicide squad was just a hipster with a slight temper

Where they're fucking up is not casting Jerome from Gotham to just be the joker from here on out

He's young enough to play the joker for the next 20 years and his joker is only rivaled by Jack and Heath.

Jaoquin Phoenix is 43. Robert Downey Jr and and Samuel L Jackson were older when they began the MCU.

Unless the Joker is supposed to be a younger character in general.
 

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Shit since they throwing out budgets pass me 1 I always had a origin story for a black joker.. Not necessarily crazy but more of a product of his enviroment... He grew up in the poorest of the poorest of gotham.. Pretty much due to certain events killed at an early age in self defense.. He hated criminals and formed a group at an early age to eliminate, control .policing his area ..extorting drugdealers, protecting hookers, giving back to the community that Gotham forgot about.. Hes part Omar from the wire, part vigilante, part Nino brown... He's hated by the mafia cause he represents defiance, order in the black community, and he won't allow them to operate in the black community unless he gets pc and overseer all their operations..of course that creates friction and they want his head for it.. They try to order a hit on him using paid police officers.. He defends himself...Batman happens to interfere during this ordeal without knowing the history.. Injuring the joker severely... His skin gets discolored, his mouth is damaged(explains his scars)..gets arrested... Attempts to commit suicide...meets Harley when he gets physiological evaluated.. Gets broken out thanks to the scarecrow invasion, and wants revenge on bats..that's where dark knight begins..revenge movie..lot of stuff I left out but you get it
Shit I had an idea about a carrot that turned into a superhero
 

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I think that's their plan. Instead have one big interconnecting cinematic universe, they're doing one-shots, elsewhere stories and maybe a trilogy or two. Kind of like the comics where you have different creators come in and give their take on the characters.

Boom.

And just so happens to be exactly what Marc and Kevin told them to do a year ago on fatman on batman.



Let's be honest fam ...



DC/Warner are not geniuses who planned that out...

They are idiots who mopped their way into a corner..

This is the only option left that makes sense...

IF THEY ARE SMART ENOUGH TO PURSUE IT.

*two cents*
 

tallblacknyc

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Delete this...

And get to writing.

That was a great premise.

This screen shot is what the young joker and his team of bandits is what they would've been wearing (as far as hiding identity with mask)during their vigilante quest to take back the neighborhoods they grew up in...robbing drugdealers, getting rid of pimps, harming stick up kids and gang members in my black joker story

 

playahaitian

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Yes.
It's like Hugh Jackman starting wolverine at Logan.

But I think for THIS story it's going to work..

We have never had a PROPER representation of Batman before his Jesus years...

No real batman year 1 no REAL training of the greatest detective

I dont mind older Napier if dont get a FULL origin...

Just let Phoenix go...

we can already see what type of Joker we getting and I like it.

A damaged angry sane joker

The descent...into madness and chaos

We know now

Honestly you were right on point

Gotham Joker should be canon.

But i still want a proper gritty bare knuckled year one for Bruce.
 

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I like it, they need to keep it as a standalone and not bring it in with their justice league universe.
 

playahaitian

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Still haven’t watched a single episode of Gotham.

hmmm...

I aint gonna sit here and give Gotham a GLOWING endorsement cause it took a WHILE to get going.

But once it did?

Boy o Boy

Its a modernized version of Batman "66

IT doesn't ALWAYS hit...

but its is much more consistent than it gets credit for

and when it soars its spectacular.
 
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