JOKER (2019) Discussion Thread Starring Joaquin Phoenix (Update 9/12/19) Leaked Footage.. GOOD GAWD

playahaitian

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let me call my shot EARLY...

Joakim gonna get an Oscar nomination

and legitimately has a chance to do something that MIGHT be historical...

win an Oscar for the same character someone else previously played and won an Oscar for.
 

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beautiful cinematography.... but the story looks like it will be shit
let me call my shot EARLY...

Joakim gonna get an Oscar nomination

and legitimately has a chance to do something that MIGHT be historical...

win an Oscar for the same character someone else previously played and won an Oscar for.
if this doesn't make money - don't expect any noms -
great actors almost never win awards playing roles in poorly conceived stories
 
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Its gonna be subpar...



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I think I’m missing something..

A good chunk of these movies were actually good...

Road Trip, Old School, and Hangover 1 were classics...

War dogs was fucking underrated...


These teaser really has me excited... I know that Joaquin is going to bring heat...

And I like the premise of the Failed Comedian slowly turning to Crime and Choas.. it also looks like This Joker inspires people to join him by painting their face.

I’m all in..
 

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beautiful cinematography.... but the story looks like it will be shit

My thoughts almost verbatim. The look and the atmosphere looks incredible, but the actual story looks like a quiet drama/character study. Take the well-known Joker element out of it and it doesn't look like much of anything is going on.

Hopefully, they took the "teaser" thing to heart and are keeping the goods under wraps.
 

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My thoughts almost verbatim. The look and the atmosphere looks incredible, but the actual story looks like a quiet drama/character study. Take the well-known Joker element out of it and it doesn't look like much of anything is going on.

Hopefully, they took the "teaser" thing to heart and are keeping the goods under wraps.


Im not mad at it
I just want it to go there
If he isn't wild and unpredictable by the end it's a wash
 

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I think I’m missing something..

A good chunk of these movies were actually good...

Road Trip, Old School, and Hangover 1 were classics...

War dogs was fucking underrated...


These teaser really has me excited... I know that Joaquin is going to bring heat...

And I like the premise of the Failed Comedian slowly turning to Crime and Choas.. it also looks like This Joker inspires people to join him by painting their face.

I’m all in..
all of those were good comedies - some were EXCELLENT comedies

NONE OF THEM are noir, thriller, action nor even crime


this trailer looks like Nolan - but on substance its missing every beat
 

mexico

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Im not mad at it
I just want it to go there
If he isn't wild and unpredictable by the end it's a wash

Yeah I feel that. I don' t need them to lay out the whole movie in a trailer. It's atmospheric enough just seeing Joaquin Phoenix inhabit that physical space and that creepy smile, but it doesn't give me a great sense of the story; which is cool. I'll take the ride blind. I'm going see it either way. Trailer just looks like the movie could go either way at this point.
 

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Don't need batman
Need him to grow into chaos
Ehhhh, don't really care about the buildup. I'd rather see him jump into the chaos. How would not having batman transform this movie into a money maker, because in the end that's what it is to the studios. The casual watcher knows the Joker through Batman
 

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Yeah I feel that. I don' t need them to lay out the whole movie in a trailer. It's atmospheric enough just seeing Joaquin Phoenix inhabit that physical space and that creepy smile, but it doesn't give me a great sense of the story; which is cool. I'll take the ride blind. I'm going see it either way. Trailer just looks like the movie could go either way at this point.


I'm hoping it just shows his descent into madness
And his anarchy
No need for batman until the end where he gets Batman's attention possibly
Outside of that no
Show him losing it
 

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Ehhhh, don't really care about the buildup. I'd rather see him jump into the chaos. How would not having batman transform this movie into a money maker, because in the end that's what it is to the studios. The casual watcher knows the Joker through Batman
I mean you can't have an origin story without an origin
And I'd much rather have it develop than have a cheesy therapy session where's he's being interviewed and all of this is retrospective
 

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Im not mad at it
I just want it to go there
If he isn't wild and unpredictable by the end it's a wash
I hope I'm wrong- but that trailer looks like this will either end like Taxi Driver (at best)
Falling Down or Boogie Nights.... at worst a little girl will be holding his hand

This character deserves a story / plot as twisted as Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and as violent and demented as Taxi Driver
 

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I hope I'm wrong- but that trailer looks like this will either end like Taxi Driver (at best)
Falling Down or Boogie Nights.... at worst a little girl will be holding his hand

This character deserves a story / plot as twisted as Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and as violent and demented as Taxi Driver


I agree with you
 

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I'm hoping it just shows his descent into madness
And his anarchy
No need for batman until the end where he gets Batman's attention possibly
Outside of that no
Show him losing it

Shit, I don't need to Batman, either. And if he is in there, I certainly hope they won't give it away in a trailer.

It looks like a period piece anyway -- maybe mid-70's, so I seriously doubt a full grown Dark Knight will be featured.

I'm cool with a descent into madness angle. It would be a ballsy movie for Warner Bros. to go away from the big budget spectacle and tell a complex, adult story.
 

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Director
Joker (post-production)
2016War Dogs (directed by)
2013The Hangover Part III
2011The Hangover Part II
2010Due Date
2009The Hangover
2008The More Things Change... (TV Movie)
2006School for Scoundrels
2004Starsky & Hutch: A Last Look (Video short)
2004Starsky & Hutch
2003Old School
2000Bittersweet Motel (Documentary)
2000Road Trip

Writer
Joker (screenplay) (post-production)
2016War Dogs (screenplay)
2013The Hangover Part III (written by)
2011The Hangover Part II (written by)
2010Due Date (screenplay)
2009Road Trip: Beer Pong (Video) (motion picture "Road Trip")
2006School for Scoundrels (screenplay)
2006Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan (story)
2004Starsky & Hutch (screenplay)
2003Old School (screenplay) / (story)
2000Road Trip (written by)

Oh man i got nauseous just reading that..

Thats silly funny stuff.

I really hope he is up for this
 

playahaitian

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I hope I'm wrong- but that trailer looks like this will either end like Taxi Driver (at best)
Falling Down or Boogie Nights.... at worst a little girl will be holding his hand

This character deserves a story / plot as twisted as Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and as violent and demented as Taxi Driver

Exactly what i said in the other thread

If this works

Big IF

this is joker via taxi driver
 
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