Just watched BLACK PANTHER and.......
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They can do what they want, but it's stupid reasoning. The director and cast were not white. They did their best to make sure black folks got paid by being involved with the production.
If I could only patronize brands only black folks made money from, I wouldn't own hardly anything and I'd freakin starve. Are there any black owned car manufacturers? Bus lines? Hell bicycles?
Grocery chains?
Even with all the black owned directories, many items are not convenient.
It makes no sense to me that THIS is the project they have to draw the line in the sand. Unless they are only watching Tyler Perry, John Singleton, Spike Lee, and Mario Van Peebles productions, they are giving the money to mostly white people. Hell even black artists only get a small part. Many record labels are white owned.
better than anything out there
The Jeffersons
Superfly (weirdly...standing up to"whitey")
Living Single
Arsenio Hall Show
Flip Wilson Show (I'm dating myself)
Does every successful black person have to do something for a community? Where did this standard come from? And why are we even depending on others to do stuff?
Successful black person: "oh no, I'm getting money now, I better do something for the community or else my own people will hate me and look down on me"
This. And even Tyler Perry and them have to break bread with white folks. It's impossible to avoid.
Why is Chewing Gun on that list?
Good interview. Shit the movie tickets could be $50 a piece and i am going to see it. Fuck that. My nigga representing the SC and to be where he is at from small town Anderson, SC I gotta go. Fuck these black folks that don't support the movie. Chad said it will allow the actors to do more in the community. WE never have seen a movie like this before. A black successful comic hero that is from the mother land.
Some people just love to complain. They don't have to give back shit. It's kind of sad that people even expect others to give back.
Niggas be complaining and shit and then you ask, "FUck if someone giving back or not what the fuck are you doing??" How many will have an answer for that? How many will say yes, i mentor kids on the weekends, I support and give back to my HBCU?? I only fuck with black business?? HUH?? That's why I hate a whinning ass nigga that does nothing but complain. Fuck that. I can't wait to see this movie and whether a company gives back or not I am not worry about that. Why?? Because I FUCKING GIVE BACK. Ninggas need to stop worrying about what others do and starting working on making sure you do your part
I actually agree with what you are saying and it is not my place to decide where or how you spend your hard earned dollars.
As far as Black Panther is concerned I know he was created by someone else. His debut was with the Fantastic Four in the late 1960s
The point I think you are missing is the impact it will have on our youth. I am looking beyond this movie and hoping to see more black characters of strength. I am sick and tired of:
Slavery movies
Hood comedies
Hood dramas
Sport dream movies
^^^^It is like the above are the only type of movies we want to see or capable of making.
Why can't we have and produce more:
Black superhero movies?
Black mythology movies?
Black science fiction movies?
Black horror movies?
The point I think you are missing going forward is that this will change the type of movies and roles we will see black people in. I agree with your integrity on giving your money to entities we don't own but if that is your only point and you refuse to see the future impact of what I am saying then you are purposely missing the point. Look beyond the movie and think about what will spawn from it. I hope black movie makers will finally start producing movies that are not of the same type we been getting for years.
Great point. The same black people raising a stink about the movie are the same black people giving their money to other entities we don't own.
They be like I ain't going to support this movie but will buy products and use services from entities that doesn't even have diversity on their executive levels or marketing department. They will support the same entities that does not even make an investment in the black communities but this movie is bad for black people
. Sometimes some of us black people think too damn hard about shit.
Fake hypocritical outrage. If they feel that strongly they should donate all items they possess not made by black people to charity. They will not do that because they would have no car, no phone, no computer, very little clothes, and no home. Also only use services provided by only by black people. The hypocrisy black people have towards this movie is astonishingly astounding.
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Niggas is arguin bout goin to see a movie.
Just think about that.
Black Panther come out and niggas got allllllllllllllllll kinda reasons they can't give a fuckin nickel to a cracka. They ONLY support black businesses. Their isp is a black business. They wear only black clothes and drive cars from black car companies. They don't pay no rent to the white man or go eat at restaurants that are owned by white people. They grow their own food because they don't give money to white owned grocery stores. They definitely don't work for the white man or lust after white women. THey don't watch NO sports with teams owned by white men or colleges run by white men.
I salute yall niggas
WHile I give this money to Disney in support of the brothas and sistas who starred and worked on this.
Yall are the blackest of the black and the true revolutionaries
Just think about that.
Black Panther come out and niggas got allllllllllllllllll kinda reasons they can't give a fuckin nickel to a cracka. They ONLY support black businesses. Their isp is a black business. They wear only black clothes and drive cars from black car companies. They don't pay no rent to the white man or go eat at restaurants that are owned by white people. They grow their own food because they don't give money to white owned grocery stores. They definitely don't work for the white man or lust after white women. THey don't watch NO sports with teams owned by white men or colleges run by white men.
I salute yall niggas
WHile I give this money to Disney in support of the brothas and sistas who starred and worked on this.
Yall are the blackest of the black and the true revolutionaries
I haven't seen it yet, but it sounds as if Erik killmonger discovers that he is of wakandan heritage, stolen from him by europeans, and goes back to reclaim it through the ritual challenge of the black panther's throne.
If he dies, I'm sure Andy Serkis kills him, or he does some stupid villain thing or does noble as a redemption.
If he dies, I'm sure Andy Serkis kills him, or he does some stupid villain thing or does noble as a redemption.
. The absurdity of some of these cats is uncanny and tragic at same time. Well said brotha, well said
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My point exactly. They don't and they won't. They should, but no they don't have to.
The standard came from successful communities.
Because a community is a bunch of people dependent on one another. (right?)
Chewing Gum is hilarious, it's lead is a black chick who is super dark, and has super African features. Despite that It's already won a BAFTA! Plus I love Michaela Coel.. lolz
Who says they should? They are not obligated to do anything. They have families just like the next man. Now because they have money they should take care of those that don't? And how do you know they aren't already given back to the community . Just because they are not attention whoring about it online doesn't mean it's not happening.
Hmmmm, a show about a black girl whose ex-man, that happened to be black, turns out to be gay. She starts dating a white guy. Her black male cousin wants to fuck her. Her black male friend is gay. Her best friend who is Spanish cheated on her black man with his father. Yeah, groundbreaking show. She's cool and funny, but I couldn't make it thru that last season because of these issues.
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No they are not obligated to do anything. They can distance themselves from their communities until shit goes left for them. It's absolutely their choices
And if 'They' are giving back we aren't talking about them.With all that being said. Yeah, it is a groundbreaking show.. Just like the Madea movies love them or hate them, they are groundbreaking. You can dislike them, they may not be our cups of tea, but you can't take anything away from them.
This is a review from Akron Beacon Journal
At one point in Black Panther, Erik Killmonger, Michael B. Jordan’s character, says: “Can you believe that? A kid from Oakland running around believing in fairy tales?”
With one grand film and a single line, director Ryan Coogler (Fruitvale Station, Creed) lays out the story of the African-American experience, framing it in an escapist piece of entertainment.
In a script Coogler wrote with Joe Robert Cole, Black Panther feels like — by leaps and bounds — the most personal Marvel film to hit screens. For some, based on the subject matter, it will be more so.
Coogler subtly, intelligently, emotionally and with humor connects the dots from European colonialism to present-day problems that plague the African-American community and the negative perceptions that continue to hang around the neck of Africa.
He does this within the confines of a comic-book movie. Coogler and Cole serve up a compelling plot and mix genres, as Black Panther possesses aspects of a James Bond film and a thriller, laced with just the right balance of humor to even the tone.
Set a week or so after the events of Captain America: Civil War, T’Challa (Chadwick Boseman) returns home to the lush, technologically advanced country of Wakanda to claim the crown that is rightfully his. He struggles emotionally without his father, T’Chaka (John Kani).
With the throne comes the responsibility of keeping his people’s confidence, not an easy task when you were there when your father was killed and could not save him.
T’Challa’s mother Ramonda (Angela Bassett), sister and whiz kid Shuri (Letitia Wright, who has a bright future ahead), leader of the imperial guard Okoye (Danai Gurira) and the love of his life, Naki (Oscar winner Lupita Nyong’o) remain in his corner.
He certainly needs them after discovering his father’s old nemesis, who he hunted for decades, Ulysses Klaue (a delightfully over-the-top Andy Serkis) is back on the prowl attempting to sell “vibranium,” the metallurgical element that is a key to Wakanda’s success.
Working with Klaue is Killmonger, a young man who wants nothing more than the power that vibranium wields, in the hopes he can use it to lead Wakandan spies throughout the world to overthrow repressive regimes.
Killmonger is both a monster, as he is described on more than one occasion in the film, and also a tragic figure brilliantly portrayed by Jordan (who starred in Coogler’s two previous films). He almost — almost — steals every scene where he appears. But his character points to a strong Shakespearean influence on Coogler and Cole’s script.
There’s endless optimism in Black Panther, but the film isn’t constrained by that fact. The writers broker in reality and aren’t afraid to examine serious issues through this extraordinary lens that they’re given.
Realistically, there would be little success without the cast they have. Jordan’s performance is balanced with a regal performance from Boseman. While Killmonger is raw emotion, T’Challa is calculating, intelligent and restrained, laced with empathy that’s hard not to admire. Behind it all is an attitude that his kindness should not be mistaken for weakness.
While the juxtaposition of those two characters and their respective backgrounds eventually stand at the center of Black Panther, a stellar supporting cast, which includes Forest Whitaker and Martin Freeman, is unforgettable. It’s one more aspect of the film that should make Coogler proud.
Coogler’s overall ambition in crafting a sociologically complex story and presenting it as standard comic-book-movie fare succeeds: There is nothing common about Black Panther.
George M. Thomas dabbles in movies and television for the Beacon Journal. Reach him at gmthomas@thebeaconjournal.com. Follow him on Twitter and Facebook @GeorgeThomasABJ.
With one grand film and a single line, director Ryan Coogler (Fruitvale Station, Creed) lays out the story of the African-American experience, framing it in an escapist piece of entertainment.
In a script Coogler wrote with Joe Robert Cole, Black Panther feels like — by leaps and bounds — the most personal Marvel film to hit screens. For some, based on the subject matter, it will be more so.
Coogler subtly, intelligently, emotionally and with humor connects the dots from European colonialism to present-day problems that plague the African-American community and the negative perceptions that continue to hang around the neck of Africa.
He does this within the confines of a comic-book movie. Coogler and Cole serve up a compelling plot and mix genres, as Black Panther possesses aspects of a James Bond film and a thriller, laced with just the right balance of humor to even the tone.
Set a week or so after the events of Captain America: Civil War, T’Challa (Chadwick Boseman) returns home to the lush, technologically advanced country of Wakanda to claim the crown that is rightfully his. He struggles emotionally without his father, T’Chaka (John Kani).
With the throne comes the responsibility of keeping his people’s confidence, not an easy task when you were there when your father was killed and could not save him.
T’Challa’s mother Ramonda (Angela Bassett), sister and whiz kid Shuri (Letitia Wright, who has a bright future ahead), leader of the imperial guard Okoye (Danai Gurira) and the love of his life, Naki (Oscar winner Lupita Nyong’o) remain in his corner.
He certainly needs them after discovering his father’s old nemesis, who he hunted for decades, Ulysses Klaue (a delightfully over-the-top Andy Serkis) is back on the prowl attempting to sell “vibranium,” the metallurgical element that is a key to Wakanda’s success.
Working with Klaue is Killmonger, a young man who wants nothing more than the power that vibranium wields, in the hopes he can use it to lead Wakandan spies throughout the world to overthrow repressive regimes.
Killmonger is both a monster, as he is described on more than one occasion in the film, and also a tragic figure brilliantly portrayed by Jordan (who starred in Coogler’s two previous films). He almost — almost — steals every scene where he appears. But his character points to a strong Shakespearean influence on Coogler and Cole’s script.
There’s endless optimism in Black Panther, but the film isn’t constrained by that fact. The writers broker in reality and aren’t afraid to examine serious issues through this extraordinary lens that they’re given.
Realistically, there would be little success without the cast they have. Jordan’s performance is balanced with a regal performance from Boseman. While Killmonger is raw emotion, T’Challa is calculating, intelligent and restrained, laced with empathy that’s hard not to admire. Behind it all is an attitude that his kindness should not be mistaken for weakness.
While the juxtaposition of those two characters and their respective backgrounds eventually stand at the center of Black Panther, a stellar supporting cast, which includes Forest Whitaker and Martin Freeman, is unforgettable. It’s one more aspect of the film that should make Coogler proud.
Coogler’s overall ambition in crafting a sociologically complex story and presenting it as standard comic-book-movie fare succeeds: There is nothing common about Black Panther.
George M. Thomas dabbles in movies and television for the Beacon Journal. Reach him at gmthomas@thebeaconjournal.com. Follow him on Twitter and Facebook @GeorgeThomasABJ.
Just left theatre
...Black Panther is beautiful enjoyable film.
Reminds me of Captain America: First Avenger or 1st Thor film (origin films) that lay groundwork for the character
First Stretched Out Thoughts:
A lot of the Big Bang Theory type white geeks in my viewing
All art is propaganda.... propaganda works on the subconscious mind.
Anything that depicts Africa or African people in a positive or benevolent light is beneficial to black people globally
Birth of a nation was a better overall film. More important film
Ummmm not really.... Winter Soldier has better plot (different type of fim)
The first after credit scene is cool ...but the second after credit scene is better.
Neither are jaw dropping
...Black Panther is beautiful enjoyable film.
Reminds me of Captain America: First Avenger or 1st Thor film (origin films) that lay groundwork for the character
First Stretched Out Thoughts:
- A lot of deep themes about the African diaspora explored
- Too Short music playing in Oakland 1992
- General Okoye stole the film
- Michael B Jordan’s Kilmonger had righteous rage
- I’m joining the Jabari mountain tribe (CACs not allowed to speak)
- “Ancestors knew Death was better than being captive”
- African culture looking regal and traditional other than inferior
- Shuri has Tony Stark like ingenuity and tech.
- Weaponized rhinos
- Lots of subtle humor for black audiences
- Angela Bassett doesn’t age
- Oakland home of Black panther party in opening scene
- Power of the drum featured... polyrhythms everywhere
- Vibranium methaphor for all stolen resources by colonist
- Stan Lee gets his chips
A lot of the Big Bang Theory type white geeks in my viewing
All art is propaganda.... propaganda works on the subconscious mind.
Anything that depicts Africa or African people in a positive or benevolent light is beneficial to black people globally
Birth of a nation was a better overall film. More important film
Ummmm not really.... Winter Soldier has better plot (different type of fim)
The first after credit scene is cool ...but the second after credit scene is better.
Neither are jaw dropping
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Just got back from seeing it. That shit was extremely well done. Killmonger gonna be BGOL favorite villain for a long time to come. And the women in this film...they damn near stole the show. Folks gonna be talkin about the subtle messages in this movie for a while along with the overt ones. Ryan Coogler’s Hollywood stock, though it was already high as hell, just went nuclear. Proud of all the brothers and sisters that contributed to this. Hope their agents had some nice language in their contracts cuz this movie gonna make a certified killing. Oh...and colonizers gone be salty as fuck.
Stan Lee said let me hold them chips lol
So....are we going to have two threads with no spoilers?