Kanye West "There's nobody that gets judged more than a straight white male he is a nazi now." back with a new rant 2025

yureeka9

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You're too focused on him, and you're talking like you know everything when you have an "employment situation" while he has a Black Ownership situation, & he shows how Black people can be shut down without any substantial economic structural control.
Again, this sounds like an earth shattering revelation to you! You're clearly a millennial or Gen Z. Nigga, I saw black people get abused economically in real time in the 80s down in Richmond County, GA. Kanye is only impressing the ignorant. There's no new information here. Period. You need to catch up!
 

World B Free

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Again, this sounds like an earth shattering revelation to you! You're clearly a millennial or Gen Z. Nigga, I saw black people get abused economically in real time in the 80s down in Richmond County, GA. Kanye is only impressing the ignorant. There's no new information here. Period. You need to catch up!
You're thinking too small, it's not about just Kanye: it's about the macro not the micro. You are so full of yourself, you can't see how real-time activities can offer lessons; but yeah....you know everything.
 

yureeka9

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You're thinking too small, it's not about just Kanye: it's about the macro not the micro. You are so full of yourself, you can't see how real-time activities can offer lessons; but yeah....you know everything.
I don't know everything. But I did take both macro and micro economics at UGA. We're just in two different chapters in life, brother. All this economic stuff you're talking about I've already learned. Look at it this way: Usually if people pay attention, they have much more wisdom and experience than the people that came behind them. I think Kanye is mid 40s. I'm 52 and I've definitely paid attention. There's nothing about the subject of economic oppression Kanye can teach me. So yes, I can focus on his anti black ravings because nothing else he says resonates.
 

World B Free

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I don't know everything. But I did take both macro and micro economics at UGA. We're just in two different chapters in life, brother. All this economic stuff you're talking about I've already learned. Look at it this way: Usually if people pay attention, they have much more wisdom and experience than the people that came behind them. I think Kanye is mid 40s. I'm 52 and I've definitely paid attention. There's nothing about the subject of economic oppression Kanye can teach me. So yes, I can focus on his anti black ravings because nothing else he says resonates.
I keep on saying this is not just about Kanye, plug any Black billionaire in and if he or she says the wrong thing then their avenues to create capital can be cut-off; that's the more salient issue. & that's the major problem
 

yureeka9

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I keep on saying this is not just about Kanye, plug any Black billionaire in and if he or she says the wrong thing then their avenues to create capital can be cut-off; that's the more salient issue. & that's the major problem
I agree. Its definitely an issue black people need to address. But before we can mount a credible offense/defense we MUST purge our ranks of those that are trying to undermine us. There's no place in the black struggle for Kanye West. His statements about black people will not be ignored. He's a traitor and has to go! There's no reason black people can't deal with both issues at the same time. Fight economic oppression and excommunicate all turncoats. The difference between you and I is that I can chew bubble gum and walk at the same time. It seems you're willing to accept fuckery if it helps with the greater good.
 

World B Free

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I agree. Its definitely an issue black people need to address. But before we can mount a credible offense/defense we MUST purge our ranks of those that are trying to undermine us. There's no place in the black struggle for Kanye West. His statements about black people will not be ignored. He's a traitor and has to go! There's no reason black people can't deal with both issues at the same time. Fight economic oppression and excommunicate all turncoats. The difference between you and I is that I can chew bubble gum and walk at the same time. It seems you're willing to accept fuckery if it helps with the greater good.
I don't co-sign or agree with what Kanye said, he definitely has anti-Black talking points. That being said, I see him as symbolic of a Black person who happened to be billionaire without structural powerful relationships; he was basically at the mercy of White folks/Jews at every turn. & when those powerful non-Black people were done with him, he's now a millionaire. Everything was precarious, he thought his money was more important than those relationships & it wasn't. It shows us even when you own something, your networking and business relationships must be on-point. When he bossed up, he realized he was on an island by himself. I think the key is to build Black structural networks who have power & creating those powerful relationships within the Black community so we can greenlight projects and so we can reject people who disrespect us.
 

yureeka9

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I don't co-sign or agree with what Kanye said, he definitely has anti-Black talking points. That being said, I see him as symbolic of a Black person who happened to be billionaire without structural powerful relationships; he was basically at the mercy of White folks/Jews at every turn. & when those powerful non-Black people were done with him, he's now a millionaire. Everything was precarious, he thought his money was more important than those relationships & it wasn't. It shows us even when you own something, your networking and business relationships must be on-point. When he bossed up, he realized he was on an island by himself. I think the key is to build Black structural networks who have power & creating those powerful relationships within the Black community so we can greenlight projects and so we can reject people who disrespect us.

Ok, that all makes sense. My point is that you've just outlined a scaled up version of what happened to Ed McIntyre back in 1981.
I learned a lesson about white and black power that day. Even though Ed was black and first black Mayor of Augusta, GA the black community realized he wasn't for us and had to go even as the white power structure was tearing him down. Two objectives at the same time. See how easy that is? Maybe you CAN chew bubble gum and walk at the same time. Just try to remember us old heads have most likely been there and done that. We don't need to be taught again.
 

World B Free

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Ok, that all makes sense. My point is that you've just outlined a scaled up version of what happened to Ed McIntyre back in 1981.
I learned a lesson about white and black power that day. Even though Ed was black and first black Mayor of Augusta, GA the black community realized he wasn't for us and had to go even as the white power structure was tearing him down. Two objectives at the same time. See how easy that is? Maybe you CAN chew bubble gum and walk at the same time. Just try to remember us old heads have most likely been there and done that. We don't need to be taught again.
No one is trying to teach you anything, bruh. These are different conditions than the mayor of a city; I'm talking about raw economic power that can control societal structures. Not a mayor who can be a pawn in the game.
 

yureeka9

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No one is trying to teach you anything, bruh. These are different conditions than the mayor of a city; I'm talking about raw economic power that can control societal structures. Not a mayor who can be a pawn in the game.
Different levels of the same game. Kanye is just as much a black pawn as Ed McIntyre. He ingratiated himself with white resources and when it went bad they flexed their muscle to reduce him. That's all there is to it. You've already stated the lesson here: Black people need their own economic muscle to avoid this in the future. We can still benefit from the lesson without making martyrs out of turncoats.
 

World B Free

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Different levels of the same game. Kanye is just as much a black pawn as Ed McIntyre. He ingratiated himself with white resources and when it went bad they flexed their muscle to reduce him. That's all there is to it. You've already stated the lesson here: Black people need their own economic muscle to avoid this in the future. We can still benefit from the lesson without making martyrs out of turncoats.
I just know this Kanye situation is making a lot of Black folks wake up, & that's a good thing.
 

yureeka9

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Kanye loving dumbasses started a GoFundMe page to make him be a billionaire again.

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That is still a miracle amount compared to millions of us. South African claimed they had overcome with the invaders still owning and controlling the land and wealth and resources there. Guess we all can say the same happened to us. Following and still making devils rich
 

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I always thought his billionaire status was a big ass hot air balloon and this net worth collapse overnight proved it.

Clearly, I can't speak to his status, but in general most people you hear about aren't liquid billions/millions. The net worth is made up of different assets usually stocks so if for instance the stock falls in value so does their billionaire status. In Kanye's case I'm guessing they were also counting his future earnings from deals. Since Gap cut the deal, he no longer has the potential earnings and its the same for the other companies. Basically he potentially was only a billionaire on paper.

The same is true for Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg.there stock holdings in their respective companies gives the the value and they are not liquid billionaires. They probably also take loans against their stock holdings instead of selling them assuming the aren't paid ( relatively speaking) alot from their respective companies.
 

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Nice.
Capitalism is like a fire that can either heat your house or burn it to the ground. It's all in how you control it.
One of the tenants of modern capitalism is free markets, so controlling it is kind of a no no. Not that it isn't done, its just that its greatly frowned upon.
 

Dannyblueyes

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Nice.

One of the tenants of modern capitalism is free markets, so controlling it is kind of a no no. Not that it isn't done, its just that its greatly frowned upon.

People say that, but is it really true?

How many conservative pro business Republicans would be okay with a slaughterhouse opening up in their neighborhood?

If you truly believe in complete and total free market capitalism then that slaughterhouse owner should be able to set up shop wherever they can buy land. There should also be no regulations on the pollution that this slaughterhouse creates. No standards for how the animals are treated. No regulation for the quality of meat that comes out.

In reality, a lot of these so-called free market capitalists won't even tolerate an apartment building on their block.

Most capitalists accept that there needs to be at least some government intervention in the economy. They want to know that the food they eat and water they drink is held to a certain standard. They want to know that the automobile they're driving is properly inspected so that it won't catch fire on the highway. If it does they're grateful that the fire department is there to put it out and a government qualified doctor can treat their injuries.

That said, freedom means different things to different people. To me a free market means that you have the freedom to start your own business. Workers have the freedom to work for you and customers have the freedom to buy whichever products and services they want.

This freedom creates competition which encourages people to outdo each other with their products and services.

However, it's also a freedom that can crash and burn very quickly. That's why we also need firm government guardrails.
 

blackpepper

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People say that, but is it really true?

How many conservative pro business Republicans would be okay with a slaughterhouse opening up in their neighborhood?

If you truly believe in complete and total free market capitalism then that slaughterhouse owner should be able to set up shop wherever they can buy land. There should also be no regulations on the pollution that this slaughterhouse creates. No standards for how the animals are treated. No regulation for the quality of meat that comes out.

In reality, a lot of these so-called free market capitalists won't even tolerate an apartment building on their block.

Most capitalists accept that there needs to be at least some government intervention in the economy. They want to know that the food they eat and water they drink is held to a certain standard. They want to know that the automobile they're driving is properly inspected so that it won't catch fire on the highway. If it does they're grateful that the fire department is there to put it out and a government qualified doctor can treat their injuries.

That said, freedom means different things to different people. To me a free market means that you have the freedom to start your own business. Workers have the freedom to work for you and customers have the freedom to buy whichever products and services they want.

This freedom creates competition which encourages people to outdo each other with their products and services.

However, it's also a freedom that can crash and burn very quickly. That's why we also need firm government guardrails.
You're right on all this, and I also appreciate the guardrails. In my opinion the real problem is the wealthy being able to bend and reshape the guardrails for the industries they participate in. Its got to the point that the regulators/guardrails are executives that come directly out of the industry they regulate with plans to return to it after they've done their term with the regulatory agency. Its like having company lobbyist leading the meeting on how to protect consumers and the environment from huge abusive corporations when they'll be going directly back to those huge abusive corps for a higher salary and more stock options.
 

Dannyblueyes

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You're right on all this, and I also appreciate the guardrails. In my opinion the real problem is the wealthy being able to bend and reshape the guardrails for the industries they participate in. Its got to the point that the regulators/guardrails are executives that come directly out of the industry they regulate with plans to return to it after they've done their term with the regulatory agency. Its like having company lobbyist leading the meeting on how to protect consumers and the environment from huge abusive corporations when they'll be going directly back to those huge abusive corps for a higher salary and more stock options.

I agree that's a huge problem. Just like monopolization is.

A company just gets so large that it no longer makes sense to innovate. Instead that research and development money goes into buying back stock and forcing other companies out of the market.

The other issue is when a company commits human rights abuses, environmental damage, harassment and discrimination with their employees, etc. Eventually they get caught, but rather than correcting their behavior they decide it makes more sense to pay the fines and keep going.

Sometimes monopolies make sense, especially with utility companies. You don't want to have 10 different electric companies each with their own wires strung across the poles.

But why would the government let them trade on the stock market? It changes a company's priority from providing the essential service to taking care of their shareholders. Those forest fires in California prove that you can't do both!
 

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I agree that's a huge problem. Just like monopolization is.

A company just gets so large that it no longer makes sense to innovate. Instead that research and development money goes into buying back stock and forcing other companies out of the market.

The other issue is when a company commits human rights abuses, environmental damage, harassment and discrimination with their employees, etc. Eventually they get caught, but rather than correcting their behavior they decide it makes more sense to pay the fines and keep going.

Sometimes monopolies make sense, especially with utility companies. You don't want to have 10 different electric companies each with their own wires strung across the poles.

But why would the government let them trade on the stock market? It changes a company's priority from providing the essential service to taking care of their shareholders. Those forest fires in California prove that you can't do both!
 

blackpepper

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I agree that's a huge problem. Just like monopolization is.

A company just gets so large that it no longer makes sense to innovate. Instead that research and development money goes into buying back stock and forcing other companies out of the market.

The other issue is when a company commits human rights abuses, environmental damage, harassment and discrimination with their employees, etc. Eventually they get caught, but rather than correcting their behavior they decide it makes more sense to pay the fines and keep going.

Sometimes monopolies make sense, especially with utility companies. You don't want to have 10 different electric companies each with their own wires strung across the poles.

But why would the government let them trade on the stock market? It changes a company's priority from providing the essential service to taking care of their shareholders. Those forest fires in California prove that you can't do both!
In all seriousness I don't see how this country can go on like this for much longer. Something has to give. The drive for profits has got us all racing toward a major environmental collapse. That will result in an economic catastrophe that will make the great depression look like a walk in the park. I know that's pessimistic af, but I really believe it could happen at just about any time.
 

Dannyblueyes

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In all seriousness I don't see how this country can go on like this for much longer. Something has to give. The drive for profits has got us all racing toward a major environmental collapse. That will result in an economic catastrophe that will make the great depression look like a walk in the park. I know that's pessimistic af, but I really believe it could happen at just about any time.

I don't blame you. However, I think capitalism might offer a solution as well.

Have the government set up low cost entrepreneur schools the teach students how to bring ideas to market. When a person successfully finishes the course the government offers them a business loan similar that's similar to a student loan.

When you replace mega corporations with small business the government gains more authority. To impose labor, environmental, and marketplace standards.

Right now we have governments spending over backwards and offering tax incentives to corporations so that they will open up their new 5000 person factory in their district. Instead, I would like to see the government use that money to encourage 10 people to set up factories with 500 workers each.

Create a situation where the only way these factories can keep their doors open is to make better products than the factory next door. Let their competition for workers create better pay and working conditions.

After a few years it will lead to a much better regulated and much more robust industry that works and everyone's best interest.
 

blackpepper

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I don't blame you. However, I think capitalism might offer a solution as well.

Have the government set up low cost entrepreneur schools the teach students how to bring ideas to market. When a person successfully finishes the course the government offers them a business loan similar that's similar to a student loan.

When you replace mega corporations with small business the government gains more authority. To impose labor, environmental, and marketplace standards.

Right now we have governments spending over backwards and offering tax incentives to corporations so that they will open up their new 5000 person factory in their district. Instead, I would like to see the government use that money to encourage 10 people to set up factories with 500 workers each.

Create a situation where the only way these factories can keep their doors open is to make better products than the factory next door. Let their competition for workers create better pay and working conditions.

After a few years it will lead to a much better regulated and much more robust industry that works and everyone's best interest.
It could happen. But the big corps own the government and aren't likely to greenlight new government tax funded institutions training upstarts to compete against them. As you've said they simply co-op or crush any genuine innovation that has a chance in the market and maximize profits from it, or just put it on a shelf and keep selling their legacy products. There is no shortage of good ideas of how to change things for the better. There's just no political will due to the people with real big money wanting the status quo to remain in place because they're getting rich from it.
 
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