They flew straight into the hill. Probably never saw it
I pray for them that they didn't see it and that this was instant.
They flew straight into the hill. Probably never saw it
Most Heart Breaking thing I read today WOWUpdated article from TMZ detailing the errors the pilot made that caused this:
Kobe Bryant Helicopter Didn't Have Black Box, LASD Patrolling Crash Site
The pilot flying Kobe Bryant, his daughter and 6 others misjudged the terrain.www.tmz.com
COPTER PILOT MISJUDGED TERRAIN... Didn't Slow Down, Pilots Say
The pilot of the helicopter carrying Kobe Bryant, his daughter and 6 other passengers got in big trouble with fog -- they seemed to abort the trip and tried returning home, barely clearing one mountain range, but never slowed down ... this according to the flight tracker and several experienced helicopter pilots in the L.A. area.
As we reported, the pilot had to circle near the Downtown L.A. area -- near the L.A. Zoo -- for 15 minutes because of bad weather ahead. As we reported ... the LAPD had grounded its helicopter fleet because of fog at around the same time Kobe's helicopter took off.
The pilot was following a visual flight plan and was cleared by the tower to proceed north, toward Thousand Oaks where Kobe was taking his daughter for a basketball game. When he got to the Calabasas area, the fog became blinding.
As we reported, the pilot was way too low -- at 1,250 feet. The pilots we spoke with say it's clear based on the abrupt change on the flight tracker ... the pilot panicked and quickly ascended to 2,000 feet. We're told he cleared a mountain range by 100 feet, and the pilots we spoke with say he was so low he almost certainly saw the tops of the mountain.
The pilots we spoke with -- all of whom have extensive experience -- say based on the flight tracker and the accident scene, they believe the pilot felt he had cleared all of the mountains and was proceeding to head back when he hit another mountain. The pilot clearly did not know there were mountains ahead because he actually descended from 2,000 feet to 1,700 feet .. presumably to go under the fog.
Even more baffling, we've been told the pilot was extremely experienced flying in that area -- and was even a flight instructor. One seasoned helicopter pilot told TMZ, he could not understand why Kobe's pilot would have maintained a speed of 161 knots in such dense fog. One of the benefits of a helicopter is you can go much slower -- even 15 mph -- to gingerly avoid terrain if you're uncertain.
Our sources say the chopper was sophisticated and had an altitude warning signal to pull up, but it was too late. As we said, he was doing 161 knots and didn't slow down. The helicopter hit the mountain at that speed.
Several of the pilots we spoke with say the pilot should have gone up to clear the fog, rather than down. To that end, we're told the pilot could have slowed down to almost a stop as he turned, but didn't.
Man wtf. Is the lakers cursed for greats.
Ain’t see it but I’m sure they felt it. I’ve been on the highway down south in fog so thick I couldnt see the taillights 10 ft in front of me and was scared as fuck I was bout to hit somethingI pray for them that they didn't see it and that this was instant.
Ain’t see it but I’m sure they felt it. I’ve been on the highway down south in fog so thick I couldnt see the taillights 10 ft in front of me and was scared as fuck I was bout to hit something
Create a thread if you want to discuss this specific topic. I'm sure it'll get some traffic. Can we just have one thread of substance where someone is not trying to go against the grain or off topic or trying to bring attention to themselves? 9 lives were lost, some were kids. You think people want to hear about conspiracies now? Is that gonna bring back the 9 people? Create a thread for that shit.It is BGOL, people talk shit. You know how soft someone would have to be to take anything said on BGOL personal.
I rarely get into with anyone as I have never called anyone names or all that other BS. Just was never my style. I make a comment and some like it and some don't. For me to take anything personal is soft ass shit.
Damn 183 in a helicopter. Was that Nicca drunk. The guy in the vid described like they was hovering.Different situations, they flew into the side of a mountain going 161 knots (which is equivalent to 183 mph.)
He would have smoked that weed whether Kobe died or not.Driver in fatal crash smoked weed because he was 'upset over Kobe Bryant passing away,' police say
One person has been charged with two counts of vehicular homicide in connection with a car crash that killed two people in Memphis on Sunday night.
According to police documents, Charles Jones, 38, "smoked some weed earlier due to being upset over Kobe Bryant passing away."
Jones, who is also facing charges of disregarding a stop red light, driving while intoxicated and reckless driving.
The victims who died as a results of the collision have been identified as 54-year-old Sonja Roser and 51-year-old Christopher Hunt.
The fatal crash occurred at the intersection of South Third Street and Raines Road at approximately 5:40 p.m., according to police.
Police documents say Jones was driving northbound on South Third Street towards the Raines Road intersection when he drove over the center lane into southbound lanes and proceeded to make a left turn while the light was red.
While turning, Jones' vehicle struck the vehicle occupied by Roser and Hunt head-on.
The two victims were rushed to Regional One Hospital, but did not survive their injuries.
Police said footage from a nearby Walgreens shows Jones crossing into the southbound lanes and turning at a high rate of speed.
Jones is currently in custody and will be arraigned by video on Jan 28.
Driver in fatal crash smoked weed because he was 'upset over Kobe Bryant passing away,' police say
The driver, Charles Jones, told police he had smoked marijuana after learning about Kobe Bryant's death.www.tennessean.com
Damn 183 in a helicopter. Was that Nicca drunk. The guy in the vid described like they was hovering.
Create a thread if you want to discuss this specific topic. I'm sure it'll get some traffic. Can we just have one thread of substance where someone is not trying to go against the grain or off topic or trying to bring attention to themselves? 9 lives were lost, some were kids. You think people want to hear about conspiracies now? Is that gonna bring back the 9 people? Create a thread for that shit.
yup exactly. make another thread and post all the goofy shit you
damn near entire families got wiped out
can you image having to bury your mom, dad and little sister like the Altobelli's surviving children will have to do
They are killing that bitch on Twitter...
White people always want to bring someone's past up yet when someone does the same thing. They like to say "There's a time and place for it but not right now" or say it's disrespectful to bring it up.
And having to do so as children
Even worse for them to die along with an iconic player meaning their deaths will be minimized to an extent and it will be difficult to escape this being discussed in the next few years to allow them to grieve and move on.
Updated article from TMZ detailing the errors the pilot made that caused this:
Kobe Bryant Helicopter Didn't Have Black Box, LASD Patrolling Crash Site
The pilot flying Kobe Bryant, his daughter and 6 others misjudged the terrain.www.tmz.com
COPTER PILOT MISJUDGED TERRAIN... Didn't Slow Down, Pilots Say
The pilot of the helicopter carrying Kobe Bryant, his daughter and 6 other passengers got in big trouble with fog -- they seemed to abort the trip and tried returning home, barely clearing one mountain range, but never slowed down ... this according to the flight tracker and several experienced helicopter pilots in the L.A. area.
As we reported, the pilot had to circle near the Downtown L.A. area -- near the L.A. Zoo -- for 15 minutes because of bad weather ahead. As we reported ... the LAPD had grounded its helicopter fleet because of fog at around the same time Kobe's helicopter took off.
The pilot was following a visual flight plan and was cleared by the tower to proceed north, toward Thousand Oaks where Kobe was taking his daughter for a basketball game. When he got to the Calabasas area, the fog became blinding.
As we reported, the pilot was way too low -- at 1,250 feet. The pilots we spoke with say it's clear based on the abrupt change on the flight tracker ... the pilot panicked and quickly ascended to 2,000 feet. We're told he cleared a mountain range by 100 feet, and the pilots we spoke with say he was so low he almost certainly saw the tops of the mountain.
The pilots we spoke with -- all of whom have extensive experience -- say based on the flight tracker and the accident scene, they believe the pilot felt he had cleared all of the mountains and was proceeding to head back when he hit another mountain. The pilot clearly did not know there were mountains ahead because he actually descended from 2,000 feet to 1,700 feet .. presumably to go under the fog.
Even more baffling, we've been told the pilot was extremely experienced flying in that area -- and was even a flight instructor. One seasoned helicopter pilot told TMZ, he could not understand why Kobe's pilot would have maintained a speed of 161 knots in such dense fog. One of the benefits of a helicopter is you can go much slower -- even 15 mph -- to gingerly avoid terrain if you're uncertain.
Our sources say the chopper was sophisticated and had an altitude warning signal to pull up, but it was too late. As we said, he was doing 161 knots and didn't slow down. The helicopter hit the mountain at that speed.
Several of the pilots we spoke with say the pilot should have gone up to clear the fog, rather than down. To that end, we're told the pilot could have slowed down to almost a stop as he turned, but didn't.
I really hate to be "that guy"
And I really hate to go there, but.....
Do any of you guys think that the pilot possibly crashed the chopper on purpose?
Or is not that, maybe he had some kind of medical issue, heart attack, or something?
Again, I really hate to be "that guy"
But after reading that article, his actions seem to be extremely strange
Why was he going that fast? Etc, Etc