What multiple all stars you talking about? You mean the same guys who wound up being a lottery pick team the year he left, and the same guys who scored zero points the 2nd half during a close out game??
LeBron James: "Michael Jordan gets too much credit for the Bulls titles"
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Its not... OKC multiple All Stars, no Chip, back in the day, UTAH Jazz, Seattle, Pacers, Phoenix Suns, multiple all stars, no chips. If teams lose with multiple All Stars, it means it's NOT a guaranteed thing bruh...
What three things does LeBron do better than Jordan. No need to limit to statistics. Just curious to hear your opinion.
oh u talking about the team whose 3rd best player is 1 wrong step from dying in chris bosh and how he missed a shitload of games once they left or u talking about the cavs squad that didn't haove jr smith, kevin love, shumpert , or lebron and thats why that squad didn't win as many games as it did b4 he returned..let me ask u do u think the bulls was gonna still be title contenders once jordan, pippen, and rodman left the next yr..what person would expect a squad to be the same or better when so many players are missing or added
shit thats easy..lebron makes other teams better, hell 2 teams that never won chips b4 won because of him i see u mavs and gsw.... nobody allows bums to outshine better than lebron i see u jj, bruce bowen, jason terry...nobody forms voltron squads better..jordan couldn't do those 3 like lebron..amazingness
Rebound, Pass, Choke
...amazingness!!! We were all witnesses!!
Rebounds, passes and shot blocks...
Bosh and Wade numbers were a little better than average during most of LeBrons time with the Heat, I think the first year, he didn't want to step on any toes and they wound up losing to the Mavs, after that he said fuck that, I am going to be LeBron those kats are going to have to catch up, and the rest was history...
There was never one big game that Bosh or Wade looked half as good as LeBron, so to call them a team full of super stars is way the fuck off...
BTW the Bulls was with in an eyelash of going to the finals once Jordan retired the first time to compare, check the Heat win losses with LeBron out, I think they lost every game except a few...
that's a hard game to play...no taking into account the effect (for better or for worse) of an all work and no play attitude jordan on the mindset of other players on that cavs team over the course of an entire season leading up to the finals...can't just simply swap stats...kobe I feel comfortable saying flat out no
Put it this way, that team with Kyrie on and no LeBron was a lottery, number one pick the year before...
Funny how this shit was taken completely out of context. After listening to the entire interview, that wasn't the point he was trying to make. He's right by the way.
The NBA is and will always be a team sport where even roll players play a roll towards every championship team... No matter how good a player is you need teammates and roll player doing their job, this is why you never see a super star win a championship playing one vs five... Until I see that happen, its teams that win championships not superstars..
He didn't lose on the biggest stage. Of course he paid his dues just like Lebron. But Mike is better than Lebron In the clutch this is a fact.
Fam, everything you just wrote is off topic.
When we are talking about things like pressure, criticism and exposure, its got nothing to do with if your teammates or your competition like you or not.
Of course not.
Did Pippen played in gm 7 '88 playoff?
Why doesn't it... It doesn't when you want to slant things to support the narrative that you are trying to project Bruh. That's the norm, create the criteria mid discussion when the context of your point are disputed and disproved. It's cool though...
jordan wouldn't be held to 17 points a game vs the mavs i'd tell u that..yep jordan would've won that yr
Well the zone was illegal that year, Jordan never played against a team with two 7 footers and a all pro power forward on the floor at the same time, never played on a team that was one of the worst rebounding teams, a team with no outside shooters, with a bunch of guys the first year together...
That Heat team, as I was yapping all season when many felt they were ready, had many flaws, and it showed vs a big team like that Mavs team..
The following year they made sure they got shooters and after that no team in their right mind would play the zone against them...
So in other words the Heat lost due to their flaws that the Mavs was able to exploit...
Ive already explained it.
MJ's teammates and contemporaries dont write media headlines do they?
These people didnt and couldnt affect the relation MJ had with basketball fans around the world. We all loved MJ.
And when you say MJ was criticized by them, the fact is that alot of the top guys didnt like each other. No one liked Thomas, Thomas hated Bird and MJ, everyone hated Malone... That was the way things were. It wasnt any extra pressure, whether you were liked or not people wanted to take you out regardless, and if you put in work, everyone respected you at the end of the day.
Imho, LBJ has earned the right to talk a little. Unlike Steph and the Warriors, he's put in work for multiple years, battled and earned his spot.
I think the media is twisting his words more than I think LBJ is talking shit.
MJ thought it was a individual sport early in his career when he was young, but as he got older, and started listening to his elders, he realized that he couldnt do it alone. Even though Jordan knows that he was the captain of that Bulls ship, he has admitted time and time again that he wasnt able to achieve a lot of his accomplishments and wasn't able to win titles until he got help. MJ has talked about his growth countless of times.
I think LBJ turned into a team player much earlier than MJ did, but that was mainly because LBJ didnt want to be "a King", per se. He's embraced the King title as he got older, but i dont think LBJ has that "MJ spirit" inside of him; Whereas he wants to bite niggas heads off and embarrass them on the court via victory.
MJ is still the GOAT. And if Kobe couldnt unseat MJ, after all that he's done, then LBJ wont either. And theres nothing wrong with that. Im also a fan of Kevin Garnett, but im not gonna act like the nutthuggin Man Fan, like the OP, and cry and make ridiculous threads just because Kevin will never unseat MJ as GOAT.
All these dudes are greats....some are just better than others
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This my first time in this thread I see its long 8 pages after 1 day, Colin Powell..no need to read it I'll just stop right here
I know since it happened before MJ played in the NBA you wouldnt know anything about it. But Golden State won a title in the 70s tallblackbay. The Voltron squads do shit on any Bulls team and would beat them head to head. You are correct about that.
I think Bron must have been on drugs when he say this!!...
Michael Jordan!!..GOAT!!!...
Michael Jordan!!..GOAT!!!...
This is why the Cavs came back.
Wait hold up aren't you guys the same dummies who swore up and down the Raptors would come back as soon as this guy got healthy..
(A similar type of player to Bugar ).... Only one problem, they were actually better off with out his dumb slow ass fucking shit up.... So poof there go that logic...
nah it was b4 i was born and i thought that warriors squad was in another city at the time..so my fault instead of letting the warriors getting their first he cracked a 40 yr old dry spell..gsw was basically born again virgins on how long they didn't win shit and like a good hoe lebron let them slut him out in the playoffs to feel like a man again and hold a trophy again..lebron stayed getting whored out by the opposite team
MJ tryna keep up wit Bron and stay relevant. Donating millions to police and NAACP. Half heartedly speaking out for the first time at age 53.
BGOL Jordan groupies will tell you Bron will never pass MJ but cant tell you who will stop him the next 7 seasons. They damn sure will be pulling for whoever tries.
They gon be hoping and praying someone will step up and save MJs fading legacy. #lebronmustlose