LeBron James: "Michael Jordan gets too much credit for the Bulls titles"

TimRock

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We all know why the media brings up MJ whenever they talk about players who are gunning for his GOAT spot (e.g. LBJ, Kobe etc.) Soon, Steph will be in the discussion.

We also know that the media likes to twist Lebrons words.

But why do you do the things that u do when it pertains to MJ?
because he feels threatened. deep down, he knows lebron will never be the greatest. notice, he doesnt even reply when you go at him with a fact to prove why lebron is not greater than MJ. all he does is fall back on "he came back from being down 3 to 1", mentioning MJs failures before he started winning. But for all those failures he mentions, MJ overcame them, without running to another team. he discusses things like a high school kid.
 

RoadRage

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dude stop lying please
http://www.sbnation.com/2016/6/18/11965612/harrison-barnes-statistics-bad-warriors-nba-finals-2016

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/...review-prediction-warriors-cavs-lebron-061616

The cavs strategy was to leave Barnes open; shut the fuck up with this dumb shit really; he was wide ass open and missed, period point blank; everyone who watch the games could see it; please stop this...........
If it was that easy every team in the NBA would have done that shit.... Stop it with the Duck tales, Barnes was scoring on teams when they was defending him, so to assume that he would miss left wide open is crazy... Especially after JR has stepped up being one of the best close out defenders in the league...
 

KingTaharqa

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I always say that Jordan and LeBron are two different players, both are great in their own way and instead of comparing players who never played against each other, we should jumping in joy that we got to see two of these great players in our lifetime, because lets face it once LeBron hangs up his sneakers there is no guarantee that we would ever see that type of greatness again...

Someone will come along after LeBron. The game will always evolve. Jordans dickriding fans are the only ones in sport who try to fight it so his shoe line will stay "cool". 20 years from now when another SF is winning titles LeBron fans wont be insecure groupies about it like the MJ stans are.
 

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MJ was criticized worse by who???

The media loved him. The fans loved him. Stern loved him. Cacs all over America loved him.

When we talk about critics we aint talking about his damn competition! They aint supposed to fuckin like him.
Dude u tripping. Sounds like your reading a rehearsed narrative. No way you are ild enough to have experienced Jordan's entrance into the league, and remember it clearly. White people love him, but his contemporaries, players, despised him. Even his own teammates didn't like him, YouTube some interviews. If anything, LeBron is dislike for the dumb stuff he did, the decision, stuff like that. The only reason Jordan had the global appeal he had is because on the big stage he was a winner. And that's not a slight against anybody, but he was a larger-than-life athlete and a winner when it counted when he did get to the finals. Point Blank. Now, players don't genuinely hate each other, the league is soft as hell with the rule changes and whatnot. Not saying times work better than, just speaking truth. Now, players don't dislike each other, they compete on the field and afterwards they go on vacation together, hang out together, on each other's weddings, all that kind of stuff. Not saying it's bad, but there's no genuine this like nowadays. Back then dudes hated each other for real. They hated Jordan because he was better than them and they couldn't beat him. As great as LeBron is, and I've never said he wasn't a Phenom, he just doesn't incite the same fear that Jordan did. It is what it is, but no matter which way you slice it 6 finals appearances, 6 finals wins, never going past six games, and 6 MVP's, Trump anything with a loss attached to it.
 

TimRock

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I think the main problem is that people act like basketball is an individual sport!
lebron fans do that. when his teams win, its all lebron. but when they lose, its the cavs or heat.

i mean, lebron is great. his fans should just settle for him being a top 10 all time player.

which reminds me, KT, you previously said Tim Duncan was an "all-time" player, but not great. I asked you numerous times what you meant by that, but for some strange reason, you never clarified. Can i get an answer now, since you've had like 2 months to think about it?
 

TimRock

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Someone will come along after LeBron. The game will always evolve. Jordans dickriding fans are the only ones in sport who try to fight it so his shoe line will stay "cool". 20 years from now when another SF is winning titles LeBron fans wont be insecure groupies about it like the MJ stans are.
but you are acting like groupie right now. are you not? lebron fans are insecure right now, about players that arent even playing anymore.
 

RoadRage

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Someone will come along after LeBron. The game will always evolve. Jordans dickriding fans are the only ones in sport who try to fight it so his shoe line will stay "cool". 20 years from now when another SF is winning titles LeBron fans wont be insecure groupies about it like the MJ stans are.
In all of the history of the NBA only Jordan has done as much as LeBron with so little to work with... Sure there will be guys who win titles, put up point and win awards, but to have a player play better as the competition gets better is a very rare find, but something we was able to witness with both LeBron and Jordan...
 

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lebron fans do that. when his teams win, its all lebron. but when they lose, its the cavs or heat.

i mean, lebron is great. his fans should just settle for him being a top 10 all time player.

which reminds me, KT, you previously said Tim Duncan was an "all-time" player, but not great. I asked you numerous times what you meant by that, but for some strange reason, you never clarified. Can i get an answer now, since you've had like 2 months to think about it?

I clarified it weeks ago. You ask the same questions over and over. Tim Duncan was a very good HOF player and top 10 center but like MJ and Kobe his fans use his team success to prop him up individually.
 

TimRock

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I clarified it weeks ago. You ask the same questions over and over. Tim Duncan was a very good HOF player and top 10 center but like MJ and Kobe his fans use his team success to prop him up individually.
u said he was all-time. i have no idea what that means. How can you be "all time" but not great?

so lebron, a great, possibly the greatest ever, according to you, lost to a very good player, with a bunch of mediocre players? not once, but twice, and one was a sweep.

so is dirk, great, good or all-time?
 

KingTaharqa

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but you are acting like groupie right now. are you not? lebron fans are insecure right now, about players that arent even playing anymore.

Not at all. When LeBron was down 0-2 I said he will get 6 rings like Im saying it now. Im confident no one is gonna stop him from surpassing MJ. I simply posted his quote. And as expected more Jordan dickriders post in LeBron threads than LeBron fans. We dont see that in the MJ and Kobe threads. No ones worried about guys who are washed up and done at this point. They have 0 effect on LeBrons career.
 

KingTaharqa

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u said he was all-time. i have no idea what that means. How can you be "all time" but not great?

so lebron, a great, possibly the greatest ever, according to you, lost to a very good player, with a bunch of mediocre players? not once, but twice, and one was a sweep.

so is dirk, great, good or all-time?

I never called LeBron the greatest and said he wont surpass Wilt. In 2 weeks youll ask this again to deflect.
 

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If it was that easy every team in the NBA would have done that shit.... Stop it with the Duck tales, Barnes was scoring on teams when they was defending him, so to assume that he would miss left wide open is crazy... Especially after JR has stepped up being one of the best close out defenders in the league...
I can't do this with you today can't do it....
 

TimRock

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Not at all. When LeBron was down 0-2 I said he will get 6 rings like Im saying it now. Im confident no one is gonna stop him from surpassing MJ. I simply posted his quote. And as expected more Jordan dickriders post in LeBron threads than LeBron fans. We dont see that in the MJ and Kobe threads. No ones worried about guys who are washed up and done at this point. They have 0 effect on LeBrons career.
but you made the thread? as you have with other Jordan related threads. You mentioned kobe in here first. so yeah, i would say you are worried.
 

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lebron fans do that. when his teams win, its all lebron. but when they lose, its the cavs or heat.

i mean, lebron is great. his fans should just settle for him being a top 10 all time player.

which reminds me, KT, you previously said Tim Duncan was an "all-time" player, but not great. I asked you numerous times what you meant by that, but for some strange reason, you never clarified. Can i get an answer now, since you've had like 2 months to think about it?

Most fans of players do and the media doesn't help because they use these fallacious concepts about how to judge players. It is not relegated to Lebron.
 

TimRock

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I never called LeBron the greatest and said he wont surpass Wilt. In 2 weeks youll ask this again to deflect.
wow, so lebron will pass jordan, but not wilt? i didnt deflect from anything. You are the king of that. Go back to page 2 and see how much shit you ignore, how much facts you over looked. here, i will mention one that you deflected from:
you said all jordan has over mj is rings. i mentioned his other accolades....crickets. reply on that. dont deflect.
 

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but you made the thread? as you have with other Jordan related threads. You mentioned kobe in here first. so yeah, i would say you are worried.

The thread was about LeBrons quote. I mentioned Kobe stans like yourself would have a lot of posts in here and I was correct. Not insecurity just able yo predict the stans.
 

RoadRage

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Oh yeah and they stole Barnes mojo with some voodoo dolls that made him miss.. If this shit keeps you from crying in your car who am I to get in the way of therapy..
 

TimRock

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The thread was about LeBrons quote. I mentioned Kobe stans like yourself would have a lot of posts in here and I was correct. Not insecurity just able yo predict the stans.
but you mentioned kobe first. doesnt matter why you did it. stop making excuses.
 

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Oh yeah and they stole Barnes mojo with some voodoo dolls that made him miss.. If this shit keeps you from crying in your car who am I to get in the way of therapy..

"The Cavs cant beat Golden State in a 7 game series!"

Remember that? :lol:
 

RoadRage

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"The Cavs cant beat Golden State in a 7 game series!"

Remember that? :lol:
Man duke was so arrogant, popping shit in January... All I said was nobody knows who is going to win, this is why the games are played, but he went on and on, non stop how I knew the Cavs was going to lose, and how there was no way the Warriors was going to lose..
Well Voodoo is a bitch mother fucker!!! Let him know they got a no shoulder Voodoo doll of Durant so he better watch out... :lol:
 

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I will never consider him amongst the greatest...as he doesn't seem to acknowledge the greatest.1.) MJ, 2.) Russell, 3.) Kobe,4.) Jabbar,5.)Magic
 

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Man duke was so arrogant, popping shit in January... All I said was nobody knows who is going to win, this is why the games are played, but he went on and on, non stop how I knew the Cavs was going to lose, and how there was no way the Warriors was going to lose..
Well Voodoo is a bitch mother fucker!!! Let him know they got a no shoulder Voodoo doll of Durant so he better watch out... :lol:
Bro go back to lurking..you are the biggest pretender on this board
 

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I will never consider him amongst the greatest...as he doesn't seem to acknowledge the greatest.1.) MJ, 2.) Russell, 3.) Kobe,4.) Jabbar,5.)Magic

Fam, there is no way Kobe had a better career than Kareem, and the verdict is still out on Magic. Bill Russell over Kareem? You know Russell played with more legends than ANYBODY, and while he was a great defender and rebounder, Kareem wasn't exactly a slouch defender and rebounder, AND he was a A-1 scorer unlike Russ.

Rings must be keep in their context. If you're playing with an All-Star team like Russ, you're SUPPOSED to win, no?
 

RoadRage

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Bro go back to lurking..you are the biggest pretender on this board
Look, don't try to use me as the blame of unscrambling your therapy, look you are right, the Cavs play Voodoo defense and Bogart injury was the only way they were able to beat team cheat code, AKA potential 100 point scorer Curry...
They have so much superior talent that Cleveland should get on their hands and knees thanking their witch doctors, and the god of injury, because those are the only reason how they can win anything...
 

RoadRage

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The question should be is LeBron better than Kobe? That should be the debate.
Its a debate until you ask people name three things Kobe does better (statistically speaking) better than LeBron...
Then it tuns to crickets...
 

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Why do you feel the need to keep mj name in your mouth? You clearly have hate for him cool..but why keep bringinghim up? I don't get it

Thats not the only thing his bitchass keeps in his mouth bruh.... thus this weak ass attention whoring thread in fucking August! His bitch ass was already hurt because KD made the Cavs irrelevant in the media two weeks after the finals... I under estimated his LeBron nut hanging until now... Dude is on vacation and this retard is still swallowing with no hands on that motherfucker!! :lol:
 

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Fam, there is no way Kobe had a better career than Kareem, and the verdict is still out on Magic. Bill Russell over Kareem? You know Russell played with more legends than ANYBODY, and while he was a great defender and rebounder, Kareem wasn't exactly a slouch defender and rebounder, AND he was a A-1 scorer unlike Russ.

Rings must be keep in their context. If you're playing with an All-Star team like Russ, you're SUPPOSED to win, no?

No... you still have to play the games. If I vaguely remember the Mavs won a chip with C Level players like Berea and Jason Terry starring for their team. Having a team pre-set with HOF'er's dont guarantee anything.... Dallas proved that when they embarrassed such a team in the finals... :D
 

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No... you still have to play the games. If I vaguely remember the Mavs won a chip with C Level players like Berea and Jason Terry starring for their team. Having a team pre-set with HOF'er's dont guarantee anything.... Dallas proved that when they embarrassed such a team in the finals... :D

Fam, don't let Lebron's squandering of his good fortune playing with multiple All-Stars dupe you into believing playing with multiple All-Stars ain't all but a guarantee of winning rings.

Lets put it this way, without that many All-Stars, no way he wins THAT much. He just played with a lot more talent than everybody else and his wins reflected that.
 
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