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LL Cool J Pulls Plug On Comeback Album!!!
Writer’s Block Rocked My Bells
A frustrated LL was burning the midnight oil early Wednesday morning ... when he tweeted the official announcement he was flushing the project, saying it wasn't "worthy" for mass consumption.

LL's last album "Authentic," dropped back in 2013 -
Now, the legendary rapper's album exit just happens to come as his ex-nemesis, Canibus, is reemerging on the interview circuit with tales of their legendary battle

Just last month LL was hyping his new project, boasting the fans just have to hear it.

Maybe he'll bounce back and work out the kinks, but for now, fans aren't gonna hear it. So, no ... don't call it a comeback.

https://www.tmz.com/2023/02/22/ll-cool-j-cancels-comeback-album-over-bad-quality
 
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This is why sometimes you have to make a record every other year to stay up on the game because right now if he wants to make an Albums, it will sound old. This is why OutKast kept reinventing their selves every album. Busta Rhymes made a new song a month or two ago, and it sounded dated because his style is very archaic.
 
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Bad Andy said:
Jay-Z really the Goat. He dropped one of the hottest verses on God Did and I think that’s fucking with L.
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Jigga never got distracted by acting or other celeb stuff, he runs businesses in and outside of music yet still maintained his presence musically, albeit on other artists singles or album. LL strayed so far away from music it's difficult to find his path back. Ultimately he should stop fixating on charts and what other rappers think and just go in a studio with Rick Rubin, Premo and Hitboy and record an album that the 4 of them dig. Up to the world to decide if it likes it too.
 
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TEN said:
Why u gotta diss the legendary kurtis blow tho,
Bad enough cats never give him his flowers now this?
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It’s not necessarily a diss but more of pointing out that Kurtis Blow had that “original rap flow”. Too old school for today’s ears.


Even though this is more like Slick Rick, the message is the same:
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easy_b said:
This is why sometimes you have to make a record every other year to stay up on the game because right now if he wants to make an Albums, it will sound old. This is why OutKast kept reinventing their selves every album. Busta Rhymes made a new song a month or two ago, and it sounded dated because his style is very archaic.
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Just for conversation sake…isn’t the older sound what people have been trying to remix and play off like it’s new and fresh. Also, if LL came out with a good album, wouldn’t he now have a better chance to get it to his fan base and make new fans? I would like to think there are plenty of 30-60+ year old hip hop heads around the world that would appreciate a legend making an album that’s age appropriate vs trying to be like he was in his 20s or copying current 20 year olds.
 
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Release it, or go rework what he think is missing, if it's burning within him then these some heat he needs to refine and release. It will eat him years later why he didn't
 
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Was LL in any Rap Verzus battles? Did he jump on anybody's beats? Wait a minute.. Its been 10 years since he dropped an album and NOW he got Writer's block?
 
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mcguyver said:
He can't make a comeback album because he can't relate to today's music. He should be making throwbacks.
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Nah that ain't it. It's hard to be a rapper when your almost 60. People rap about their life experiences and things that they are currently going through at the moment.

It's hard for a teen, 20 something or even a 30 plus year old to relate to someone emotionally or from a life perspective, to someone who is almost 60 in everyday life. That inability to relate will translate and carry over in music too as well.

The theme or subject matter in most rap songs aren't age group transcendent. The themes are always age group specific.

The only people that can like any music he makes are people in his own age group.
 
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...and herein lies the problem with rap: every other genre of music is allowed to age and have legacy artists. No one expects Paul McCartney, Neil Diamond, Metallica, Billy Idol, Dave Matthews, Bruce Springsteen, etc. to sound new.
Only in hip hop and pop are artists expected and demanded to update their sound, but only in hip-hop are the older artists, who should be getting respect for what they have done and having paved the way, expected to sound "current" or be deemed as not relevant.
This is why hip hop holds no value and the music industry has used it as toilet paper for the past three decades, milking it of its value, then discarding it immediately. This is why hip-hop catalogues ain't worth shit - because they convinced people that it needs to "stay current" or its worthless.

In the meantime, legacy rockers can tour forever and still sell compilation albums and get residuals from "Best of" albums and get their songs in movies, tv shows and so on.
The music business started grooming consumers in the 90s and it worked.
As usual, black folks on the low end of the profit spectrum.
 
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TEN said:
Jigga never got distracted by acting or other celeb stuff, he runs businesses in and outside of music yet still maintained his presence musically, albeit on other artists singles or album. LL strayed so far away from music it's difficult to find his path back. Ultimately he should stop fixating on charts and what other rappers think and just go in a studio with Rick Rubin, Premo and Hitboy and record an album 4 of them dig. Up to the world to decide if it likes it too.
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Just because you Jay Z fans keep saying some BS don't make it true.

This is Stanley behavior. Since when does having a 20 year acting career become a distraction and unfocused?
Why pass up an easy check to go back into a business model that was clearly failing?

Why does Jay Z come up in thread about LLs album?

Dude aint been Rap relevant since 2007 and had a way shorter career than Todd.

LL got on at 16 and damn near retired at 30 while Jay Z started at 30. Newsflash. Jay got to ride the coattails of a lot of great rappers. Carbon copy of Jaz O and Rakim.

Jay Z isnt even Top 10 All Time and was second in is own city.

LL
Biggie
Nas
Rakim
Snoop
Ice Cube
Eminem
Wayne
Gucci
Jeezy

All have bigger fan bases than Jay Z. Jay is a regional rapper with a fan base who are the one people who hold him that regard. Then echo chamber the fact that he is so good.

He out couldn't solo tour 8/10 on that list on a major tour in 2023. He can't out sell Snoop on Madison Avenue. Couldn't out battle Nas. Don't got the streets like Jeezy, Gucci, and Wayne. Had to be a hype man on Eminem, Justins, and Beys stages. Couldn't out sell an Ice Cube movie. Was clearly third and out of mind when Biggie and Pac were alive. Do you really wanna compare him with the God who held the crown in the Golden Age? EVERY STREET NIGGA copied Ra & Erics style.

Please tell me what makes him so special? He doesn't out stream or out sell most on this list. He doesn't hold a creative or historical candle to them either.

You can't take away the fact that Jay Z had three top 50 albums during the CD era. But he aint been the same since that business model went south.
GOATS do numbers. Please show me were he compares to the Lebrons, Bradys, Jordans, and Tupacs of the world.

The youth look at him as a hype man for Justin and Bey because he ain't put out much good stuff since 2007. Scammers like him and Puff are still hyping liquor deals while 9/10 on that list got it a lot easier or are more relevant.

I have a lot of respect for a guy who has enough QC not to ruin his own legacy for a quick money. LL was doing that shit while Jay Z got to take notes as a man from a boy. Who was the teacher and who is the true master? GOAT only in your mind.
 
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Thegooch said:
LL
Biggie
Nas
Rakim
Snoop
Ice Cube
Eminem
Wayne
Gucci
Jeezy
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Somebody let Big Gipp, wack country ass up in here.
Just fucking with you, lol.
But Gipp been sounding real salty and hater-ish lately.

But please tell me this isn’t your “better than Jay Z list”?!
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TEN said:
Why u gotta diss the legendary kurtis blow tho,
Bad enough cats never give him his flowers now this?
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"Basketball is my favorite sport
I love the way they dribble up and down the court."

Can't nobody ever make a basketball song again because of this lol

He was basically the rapper who was dope before anyone had any skills lol
 
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Journey said:
Nah that ain't it. It's hard to be a rapper when your almost 60. People rap about their life experiences and things that they are currently going through at the moment.

It's hard for a teen, 20 something or even a 30 plus year old to relate to someone emotionally or from a life perspective, to someone who is almost 60 in everyday life. That inability to relate will translate and carry over in music too as well.

The theme or subject matter in most rap songs aren't age group transcendent. The themes are always age group specific.

The only people that can like any music he makes are people in his own age group.
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This is the problem. No 60 y/o cant relate to a 20 y/o. But who's the person who should be talking and who should be listening?

We are past the period were rap is something the average 60 y/o had no clue about. These are founders and creators who hold a place in history. If you rather listen a rookie than a HOF then you won't get far in many places in life.
 

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