LL has Dr.Dre Syndrome

[Thegooch]

Somebody let Big Gipp, wack country ass up in here.
Just fucking with you, lol.
But Gipp been sounding real salty and hater-ish lately.

But please tell me this isn’t your “better than Jay Z list”?!
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What makes Jay Z better than any of them? It aint sales for most. Lyrics? Biggie is Brooklyns GOAT. Influence? Does marrying a light skin chick count as ground breaking?

You go to the Midwest, South, or West and Jay X doesn't make the 10 Top in any of those regions. Maybe to the UK crowd?

50 Cent out sold Jay X and has a Diamont record. Biggie is considered the better lyricist and out sold Jay with a Diamond record. LL (helped establish Def Jam) and Rakim (Original street hustle rap) hold more historical significance. Nas kicked his ass in a battle and is better the lyricist. Its debatable if he is even top 5 or 10 in the east coast.

His fanbase ain't shit either Wu Tang actually has more street pull than anything Jay Z ever built. Still touring with no Meth and OBD.

Only in the the mind of his fans who most likely just wanna fuck his wife is he the guy they say he is.

Until I hear that Solange diss record, dude is a scammer thats more hype than substance. He's lucky to be Mrs. Knowles.

 

[Thegooch]

Biggie 2 albums consisted of what?


“Todays agenda….”

That's Diamond crack rap crack rap. Go tell Jay Z he should have had a better connect/plug.

 

[God Dammit]

What makes Jay Z better than any of them? It aint sales for most. Lyrics? Biggie is Brooklyns GOAT. Influence? Does marrying a light skin chick count as ground breaking?

You go to the Midwest, South, or West and Jay X doesn't make the 10 Top in any of those regions. Maybe to the UK crowd?

50 Cent out sold Jay X and has a Diamont record. Biggie is considered the better lyricist and out sold Jay with a Diamond record. LL (helped establish Def Jam) and Rakim (Original street hustle rap) hold more historical significance. Nas kicked his ass in a battle and is better the lyricist. Its debatable if he is even top 5 or 10 in the east coast.

His fanbase ain't shit either Wu Tang actually has more street pull than anything Jay Z ever built. Still touring with no Meth and OBD.

Only in the the mind of his fans who most likely just wanna fuck his wife is he the guy they say he is.

Until I hear that Solange diss record, dude is a scammer thats more hype than substance. He's lucky to be Mrs. Knowles.

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Album sales has absolutely nothing to do with content, flow, and lyrics.
NY loved more Big because he had Puff, the producers, and better marketing. Jay’s verses were better on both tracks he and Big did together. If Big never died, no one would’ve been calling him the GOAT. As far as everyone else you named, I can’t believe you even did it.
The only list Wayne, Jeezy, and Gucci all might be on together, especially that high, is the worst rappers of all time.​

 

[Thegooch]

Album sales has absolutely nothing to do with content, flow, and lyrics.
NY loved more Big because he had Puff, the producers, and better marketing. Jay’s verses were better on both tracks he and Big did together. If Big never died, no one would’ve been calling him the GOAT. As far as everyone else you named, I can’t believe you even did it.
The only list Wayne, Jeezy, and Gucci all might be on together, especially that high, is the worst rappers of all time.​

Typical Jay Z fans. Shit on a list of greats to lift a above average at best rapper. Hes a HOF guy but.... Wayne, Jezzy, and Gucci all have bigger black fan bases (South> NE).

They basically saved the rap music industry after the CD era died. What did Jay Z do? Sink with the boat. Got fat and married. Sound like a trophy wife lifestyle. Enjoy the Jay Z yoga videos tho

It funny how you dismiss record sales like white people skew every situation. This is the same man who couldn't tour without Justin or Bey. He had no problem using white and women fan bases when the time came needed. The same fan base that say records sales don't count are the first cto mention bank accounts when comparing Jay Z to any fapper fron the Golden Era. So money counts but record sales dont. I guess numbers only count when you want them to..

His snobby elitest fans all ignore it the fact that they haven't been to a Jay Z solo concert in decades. They don't even exist outside that bubble you call the Northeast.

So if we are going to ignore sales, fanbase size, impact, career lenth, historical significance, and focus on lyricist from NY he's still not top three.

Nas, LL, Biggie, and maybe Jay Z. Aint shit special about rapping about a middle man hustling career for a decade. Do we really want to compare his crew to BMF? LOL!!

I can knock is hustle tho. His fans are loyal and vocal as fuck. But you have to ask yourself why is Jay Z No. 1 only/always on Jay Z fans top 5. He's NEVER 2-20 according to you stans. If you ask most of the fanbases in my top 10 , only the Biggie, Nas, and Eminem crowds are gonna put him in the top 5.

Then in turn, the Jay Z fans will shit on them too by saying hes GOAT over them for some irrelevant self fabricated reason.

But like a said before, Jay Z fans only care about the opinion of other Jay Z stans. If you don't get in on the circle jerk they play the elite card and start slanging used Jergins lotion at you.

Maybe you guys need to switch to Vaseline. I dunno try something new other than saying Jay Z is the greatest, uuuuuughhhhh.... pass the Jergins guys!!!

 

[34real]

Nigga looks like a Ninja Turtle....

I mean LL has had producers and writer work magic for him and he should stick to the R&B route cause those have been his biggest records.Get with whoever's over there with Drake and boom

 

[Thegooch]

Respect this nigga name.

Only Jay Z fans gott make a LL Cool J thread about be about Jay Z. Yall niggas are insecure obsessed and shameless like your hero.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

That's Diamond crack rap crack rap. Go tell Jay Z he should have had a better connect/plug.

Wasn’t Jay Biggie plug?

 

[Thegooch]

Wasn’t Jay Biggie plug?

Why you still talking bout Jay Z in a LL thread? Why Jay Z fans gotta tether threads when their fav aint making headlines for MUSIC?

Gotta slang more moonshine!!!

Yall be on some ol' Marsha, Marsha, Marsa!!! shit anytime someone talks about a real ATG.

 

[TEN]

"Basketball is my favorite sport
I love the way they dribble up and down the court."

Can't nobody ever make a basketball song again because of this lol

He was basically the rapper who was dope before anyone had any skills lol

Well said Temujin, warms my heart when the originals get their props.
It's easy to go eat when the foods hot and ready, not so easy to cook it.

 

[theteacher]

Nigga!
Nobody cares about you or your new LP.
Just drop it and go back to Hollywood.​

 

[TEN]

Just because you Jay Z fans keep saying some BS don't make it true.

This is Stanley behavior. Since when does having a 20 year acting career become a distraction and unfocused?
Why pass up an easy check to go back into a business model that was clearly failing?

Why does Jay Z come up in thread about LLs album?

Dude aint been Rap relevant since 2007 and had a way shorter career than Todd.

LL got on at 16 and damn near retired at 30 while Jay Z started at 30. Newsflash. Jay got to ride the coattails of a lot of great rappers. Carbon copy of Jaz O and Rakim.

Jay Z isnt even Top 10 All Time and was second in is own city.

LL
Biggie
Nas
Rakim
Snoop
Ice Cube
Eminem
Wayne
Gucci
Jeezy

All have bigger fan bases than Jay Z. Jay is a regional rapper with a fan base who are the one people who hold him that regard. Then echo chamber the fact that he is so good.

He out couldn't solo tour 8/10 on that list on a major tour in 2023. He can't out sell Snoop on Madison Avenue. Couldn't out battle Nas. Don't got the streets like Jeezy, Gucci, and Wayne. Had to be a hype man on Eminem, Justins, and Beys stages. Couldn't out sell an Ice Cube movie. Was clearly third and out of mind when Biggie and Pac were alive. Do you really wanna compare him with the God who held the crown in the Golden Age? EVERY STREET NIGGA copied Ra & Erics style.

Please tell me what makes him so special? He doesn't out stream or out sell most on this list. He doesn't hold a creative or historical candle to them either.

You can't take away the fact that Jay Z had three top 50 albums during the CD era. But he aint been the same since that business model went south.
GOATS do numbers. Please show me were he compares to the Lebrons, Bradys, Jordans, and Tupacs of the world.

The youth look at him as a hype man for Justin and Bey because he ain't put out much good stuff since 2007. Scammers like him and Puff are still hyping liquor deals while 9/10 on that list got it a lot easier or are more relevant.

I have a lot of respect for a guy who has enough QC not to ruin his own legacy for a quick money. LL was doing that shit while Jay Z got to take notes as a man from a boy. Who was the teacher and who is the true master? GOAT only in your mind.

 

[bdquest9]

LL still has PTSD from this guy when he told him the truth.

 

[TEN]

Nigga!
Nobody cares about you or your new LP.
Just drop it and go back to Hollywood.​

this!
cos he may actually make a dope album thinking this nonchalantly,
instead of over thinking, as he is now.

 

[TEN]

Y’all clown LL but what about Nas. He doesn’t sound old or dated and will rap circles around your favorite Autotune faggot melodic emo bitchmade Whiney sing“rapper”

truth from truth

 

[TEN]

Respect this nigga name.

Only Jay Z fans gott make a LL Cool J thread about be about Jay Z. Yall niggas are insecure obsessed and shameless like your hero.

incredibly dope joint! I lived on that Bad album, and the Radio album before it.

 

[God Dammit]

Typical Jay Z fans. Shit on a list of greats to lift a above average at best rapper. Hes a HOF guy but.... Wayne, Jezzy, and Gucci all have bigger black fan bases (South> NE).

They basically saved the rap music industry after the CD era died. What did Jay Z do? Sink with the boat. Got fat and married. Sound like a trophy wife lifestyle. Enjoy the Jay Z yoga videos tho

It funny how you dismiss record sales like white people skew every situation. This is the same man who couldn't tour without Justin or Bey. He had no problem using white and women fan bases when the time came needed. The same fan base that say records sales don't count are the first cto mention bank accounts when comparing Jay Z to any fapper fron the Golden Era. So money counts but record sales dont. I guess numbers only count when you want them to..

His snobby elitest fans all ignore it the fact that they haven't been to a Jay Z solo concert in decades. They don't even exist outside that bubble you call the Northeast.

So if we are going to ignore sales, fanbase size, impact, career lenth, historical significance, and focus on lyricist from NY he's still not top three.

Nas, LL, Biggie, and maybe Jay Z. Aint shit special about rapping about a middle man hustling career for a decade. Do we really want to compare his crew to BMF? LOL!!

I can knock is hustle tho. His fans are loyal and vocal as fuck. But you have to ask yourself why is Jay Z No. 1 only/always on Jay Z fans top 5. He's NEVER 2-20 according to you stans. If you ask most of the fanbases in my top 10 , only the Biggie, Nas, and Eminem crowds are gonna put him in the top 5. Then in turn, the Jay Z fans will shit on them too by saying hes GOAT over them for some irrelevant self fabricated reason.

But like a said before, Jay Z fans only care about the opinion of other Jay Z stans. If you don't get in on the circle jerk they play the elite card and start slanging used Jergins lotion at you.

Maybe you guys need to switch to Vaseline. I dunno try something new other than saying Jay Z is the greatest, uuuuuughhhhh.... pass the Jergins guys!!!

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Typical hater.
I’m not a Jay Stan. I look at comparisons subjectively.
To put those wack ass rappers from the south above Jay is clear hate.
You niggas fall in love with artist depending on what region they’re from, if they died or not, or who they’re associated with.
I bet if Wayne was from Philly with the exact same lyrics, flow, and album, you’d be saying he was garbage.
I don’t give a shit about the superficial. If a nigga can spit, he can spit. If he makes dope songs/albums, then I give props.
I’m not from NY, the south, or the west. I judge without bias.
Jay has hits. Worldwide hits! And in the hits his lyrics don’t falter.
Stop trying to discredit that shit.

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[380snubnose]

It’s probably extremely wack.
He probably sounding like Kurtis Blow on that joint, while trying to sound like Lil Uzi Vert with a feature he has with Lil Baby.​

watch ya mouth..queens niggas never drop wack shit... this was 6 years ago and it shitted on alot of people out...and its a commerical

 

[eagle force]

all he gotta do is recreate this song but with rubi rose or someone...
instant relevance to the millenials

 

[Dr. Truth]

LL still has PTSD from this guy when he told him the truth.

No, LL ended any buzz he had. Destroyed his career. He has the worst ear too. Beats are straight trash that he raps over

 

[donwuan]

Jay-Z really the Goat. He dropped one of the hottest verses on God Did and I think that’s fucking with L.

Nas really the Goat. Jay ain't dropped an album in years.

 

[theteacher]

this!
cos he may actually make a dope album thinking this nonchalantly,
instead of over thinking, as he is now.

Much respect to LL
But just drop it.​

 

[TEN]

Much respect to LL
But just drop it.​

agreed

 

[bdquest9]

He

No, LL ended any buzz he had. Destroyed his career. He has the worst ear too. Beats are straight trash that he raps over

He was a battle rapper, but can’t deny his lyrical content.

 

[Dr. Truth]

He



He was a battle rapper, but can’t deny his lyrical content.

So is LL, I always felt Cannibus was wack. LL runs circles around him.

 

[God Dammit]

watch ya mouth..queens niggas never drop wack shit... this was 6 years ago and it shitted on alot of people out...and its a commerical

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You can’t be serious.
Capone N NORE are just two to start with on making wackshit from Queens.
Nigga, Tony Yayo, Jungle, all of Mobb Deep later projects. I can keep going​

 

[Goingmark40]

good for him.....he's got nothing to prove. plus don't nobody wanted to hear it anyway

 

[PlayerR]

LL Cool J Laughs On IG After Revealing New Album Still Coming Out

LL Cool J has decided to pull the plug on his latest studio effort -- which would have been his first album in 10 years -- because he feels it wasn't "worthy" of being released.

www.tmz.com

 

[swoop1]

You go to the Midwest, South, or West and Jay X doesn't make the 10 Top in any of those regions. Maybe to the UK crowd?

50 Cent out sold Jay X and has a Diamont record. Biggie is considered the better lyricist and out sold Jay with a Diamond record. LL (helped establish Def Jam) and Rakim (Original street hustle rap) hold more historical significance. Nas kicked his ass in a battle and is better the lyricist. Its debatable if he is even top 5 or 10 in the east coast.

Nas can’t freestyle or battle. Jay does all three. It’s hard to be in the goat debate if you’re not a well rounded MC. Jay Z can battle, freestyle, and make studio hits. That’s why people call him what they call him.

I never see any white people try to verbally defame Eminem. They act like he’s the greatest rapper to ever touch a mic. And yeah, a lot of that shit is simply because he’s white. I rarely throw his name around when I’m listing my top ten. He might crack the lower half of my list.

 

[cceast22]

It’s probably extremely wack.
He probably sounding like Kurtis Blow on that joint, while trying to sound like Lil Uzi Vert with a feature he has with Lil Baby.​

I tried not to laugh at this and respect a hip hop legend, but this is funny as hell.

 

[Kwame Coltrane]

LL been living in Hollywood for 30 plus years. He's a rich grandad, what he got to rap about? Go enjoy your family, your a legend

 

[jasonblacc]

There’s some stupid shit being said in this thread.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Why you still talking bout Jay Z in a LL thread? Why Jay Z fans gotta tether threads when their fav aint making headlines for MUSIC?

Gotta slang more moonshine!!!

Yall be on some ol' Marsha, Marsha, Marsa!!! shit anytime someone talks about a real ATG.

“They shady,…we get shady….”

 

[380snubnose]

You can’t be serious.
Capone N NORE are just two to start with on making wackshit from Queens.
Nigga, Tony Yayo, Jungle, all of Mobb Deep later projects. I can keep going​

And how many dope artist we got right now..hell g.rap dropping joints right now cats can't even deal with..jungle ain't a rapper let's be real with that one.. prodigy was dropping joints before he passed u bugging man...keep it thoro an those joints was hot...

 

[O.J PIMPSON]

LL said he was bullshitting and this is his best album. End of convo

 

[donwuan]

So is LL, I always felt Cannibus was wack. LL runs circles around him.

Damn, he spit bars in Italian. LL not to be fuccked wit.