LL has Dr.Dre Syndrome

BrownTurd

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Jigga never got distracted by acting or other celeb stuff, he runs businesses in and outside of music yet still maintained his presence musically, albeit on other artists singles or album. LL strayed so far away from music it's difficult to find his path back. Ultimately he should stop fixating on charts and what other rappers think and just go in a studio with Rick Rubin, Premo and Hitboy and record an album that the 4 of them dig. Up to the world to decide if it likes it too.
I was about to say this. Just make an album for your fans who have rocked with you over the years. Also rap about grown man shit.
 

God Dammit

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And how many dope artist we got right now..hell g.rap dropping joints right now cats can't even deal with..jungle ain't a rapper let's be real with that one.. prodigy was dropping joints before he passed u bugging man...keep it thoro an those joints was hot...



My nigga, you got sensitive and turned this into a borough debate.
I don’t hate queens.
The only reason I pointed out the trash was because you said “queens don’t make trash”.
I fucks with Nas, 50, & LL.
If all of you niggaz go back and reread my original posts, I didn’t say L is trash.
I just eluded that he probably shelving this project because he’s obviously too old to be relevant right now.

And speaking on relevancy… one nigga in here made the statement about “why Hip Hop have to be the only genre that won’t allow legends to get old”, basically.
Then he compared the shit to rock legends still touring at the age of 60, etc.
Those rock artists aren’t putting out new shit trying to stay relevant. They’re touring and performing all of their classic shit.
That’s what L’s old ass needs to do. Stop trying to make something new and just tour off all of those lovey dovey 90s classics he put out.​
 

yardy

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Just drop that shit and not try to be like these new cats. Be authentic just like Nas did.
The people will judge
LL already a legend with nothing to prove.
 
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Bad Andy

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jayz the goat? really... foh with them ducktales.. I'd go with LL before jay and ll ain't the goat that honors belongs to Mel, Kris , mo-dee and Caz.
Jay-Z wouldn't scrap an album if he had one to drop today. Ain't no half stepping in hip-hop and you know that, mans knew his album was garbage. You talking about LL here, lil Can-I-Bus and Moe Dee both had him punching air.
 

dasailr03

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Jay-Z wouldn't scrap an album if he had one to drop today. Ain't no half stepping in hip-hop and you know that, mans knew his album was garbage. You talking about LL here, lil Can-I-Bus and Moe Dee both had him punching air.
naaaw son, LL flow was better when he bomb on both of them. I love me some LL but he has fallen off. i want that "radio" shit but I'll settle for the R&B shit. That last album was straight garbage.
 

Bad Andy

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His fanbase ain't shit either Wu Tang actually has more street pull than anything Jay Z ever built. Still touring with no Meth and OBD.

Only in the the mind of his fans who most likely just wanna fuck his wife is he the guy they say he is.

Until I hear that Solange diss record, dude is a scammer thats more hype than substance. He's lucky to be Mrs. Knowles.

Dawgs please don't confuse Wutang touring on a festival with 70 other acts with Jay-Z doing a solo tour.


Album sales has absolutely nothing to do with content, flow, and lyrics.
NY loved more Big because he had Puff, the producers, and better marketing. Jay’s verses were better on both tracks he and Big did together. If Big never died, no one would’ve been calling him the GOAT. As far as everyone else you named, I can’t believe you even did it.
The only list Wayne, Jeezy, and Gucci all might be on together, especially that high, is the worst rappers of all time.

The Jay hate is unreal and crazy up in here and I'm from Queens. Wayne was on tour in Atlanta at the Tabernacle which holds 2,500 people, Jeezy, Gucci, Ross and a host of other artists did State Farm Arena as a group. Normally Jay-Z does State Farm alone yet people swear Jay-Z ain't hitting outside of New York.
 

Bad Andy

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naaaw son, LL flow was better when he bomb on both of them. I love me some LL but he has fallen off. i want that "radio" shit but I'll settle for the R&B shit. That last album was straight garbage.

Dawg Let's Go shut down the LL battle. Russ never let LL battle Moe because he knew Moe would wash him.
 

God Dammit

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Dawgs please don't confuse Wutang touring on a
festival with 70 other acts with Jay-Z doing a solo tour.



The Jay hate is unreal and crazy up in here and I'm from Queens. Wayne was on tour in Atlanta at the Tabernacle which holds 2,500 people, Jeezy, Gucci, Ross and a host of other artists did State Farm Arena as a group. Normally Jay-Z does State Farm alone yet people swear Jay-Z ain't hitting outside of New York.

Exactly!
Or better yet…
Eh-fucking-zackly!​
 

dasailr03

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Dawg Let's Go shut down the LL battle. Russ never let LL battle Moe because he knew Moe would wash him.

Mo Dee is better lyrically but this ain't the one. This is an oldschool beat, so it sounds dated and don't really knock the same. Where LL jackthe ripper beat shut mo dee down, added another hit to LL catalog.
 

mailboxpimp

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i read the title & :lol:
they on that mj & prince shit now! Prince dnt really count cause his fans dnt give a fuk! all his shit sounds good to them...
they cant afford an L! LL cant afford an L! ALL his shit gotta be banggin. He can still keep it b-boy but he CANT go ALL THE WAY left wit that r&b rap bullshit. He also cant sound like these young niggaahz! He cant win a battle anymore..... he can but not against any of these youngins! His ass gets demolished on social media. then outta nowhere.... the vids of me chewing his daughters ass in his living room pop up. :yes::smh::dunno:

hell of a plot twist! Not sure how we got there myself. :roflmao:
 

Thegooch

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Dawg Let's Go shut down the LL battle. Russ never let LL battle Moe because he knew Moe would wash him.


When did Jay Z change his name to Kool Moe Dee??

Why you gotta bring up Kool Moe to help ya boy out?

Kool Moe was dat nigga tho. This the only dude LL ran from a battle from. In his prime, niggas don't remember he was a top 5 guy. Russ was smart not to have that stain on LLs record, sometimes you gotta protect your fighter.

Jay Z on the other hand took that full L from Nas. History will never forget that thrashing. If Dame was around he would have threw in the towel for dat nigga. LOL!!
 

REDLINE

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Just because you Jay Z fans keep saying some BS don't make it true.

This is Stanley behavior. Since when does having a 20 year acting career become a distraction and unfocused?
Why pass up an easy check to go back into a business model that was clearly failing?

Why does Jay Z come up in thread about LLs album?

Dude aint been Rap relevant since 2007 and had a way shorter career than Todd.

LL got on at 16 and damn near retired at 30 while Jay Z started at 30. Newsflash. Jay got to ride the coattails of a lot of great rappers. Carbon copy of Jaz O and Rakim.

Jay Z isnt even Top 10 All Time and was second in is own city.

LL
Biggie
Nas
Rakim
Snoop
Ice Cube
Eminem
Wayne
Gucci
Jeezy

All have bigger fan bases than Jay Z. Jay is a regional rapper with a fan base who are the one people who hold him that regard. Then echo chamber the fact that he is so good.

He out couldn't solo tour 8/10 on that list on a major tour in 2023. He can't out sell Snoop on Madison Avenue. Couldn't out battle Nas. Don't got the streets like Jeezy, Gucci, and Wayne. Had to be a hype man on Eminem, Justins, and Beys stages. Couldn't out sell an Ice Cube movie. Was clearly third and out of mind when Biggie and Pac were alive. Do you really wanna compare him with the God who held the crown in the Golden Age? EVERY STREET NIGGA copied Ra & Erics style.

Please tell me what makes him so special? He doesn't out stream or out sell most on this list. He doesn't hold a creative or historical candle to them either.

You can't take away the fact that Jay Z had three top 50 albums during the CD era. But he aint been the same since that business model went south.
GOATS do numbers. Please show me were he compares to the Lebrons, Bradys, Jordans, and Tupacs of the world.

The youth look at him as a hype man for Justin and Bey because he ain't put out much good stuff since 2007. Scammers like him and Puff are still hyping liquor deals while 9/10 on that list got it a lot easier or are more relevant.

I have a lot of respect for a guy who has enough QC not to ruin his own legacy for a quick money. LL was doing that shit while Jay Z got to take notes as a man from a boy. Who was the teacher and who is the true master? GOAT only in your mind.

I'm not sure what Jay did to you to make you this mad but I apologize for him! :roflmao:

It's too much incorrect information in your post to begin to digest. I'm not going to shit on LL's career to make a point so I'll just state the obvious things that are wrong in your post.

You stated Jay hasn't been relevant musically since 2007 but he released 4:44 in 2017. It obviously wasn't relevant to you but to many it was.

Jay's first album was in 1996, his last album was in 2017. That's a 21 year difference.

LL's first album was in 1984, 21 years later would be 2005 and he released the album "Todd Smith" in 2006.

Which release was more relevant to Hip Hop?

One thing you are correct about is that Jay's name shouldn't have came up in this thread.
 

mailboxpimp

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Mo Dee is better lyrically
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Bad Andy

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When did Jay Z change his name to Kool Moe Dee??

Why you gotta bring up Kool Moe to help ya boy out?

Kool Moe was dat nigga tho. This the only dude LL ran from a battle from. In his prime, niggas don't remember he was a top 5 guy. Russ was smart not to have that stain on LLs record, sometimes you gotta protect your fighter.

Jay Z on the other hand took that full L from Nas. History will never forget that thrashing. If Dame was around he would have threw in the towel for dat nigga. LOL!!

Difference between Jay & LL is Jay still did songs with all them people y’all claim bodied him on records. He has multiple songs with Em and did a song with Nas who y’all claimed Ethered him. Let’s not also forget Jay signed also signed Nas but no one talks about that. In the long game Jay wins.

LL on the other hand ducked the fade with KMD and was intimidated by Canibus. He made Canibus change his original verse on 4,3,2,1. LL then went back in the studio changed his verse and dissed Canibus. Another bitch ass move no one talks about. Both Red and Meth said LL was overreacting to Canibus original verse. LL saw an easy target and went after Canibus.

I brought up Jay-Z in this thread because LL is a calculating dude and will look at who people will compare him to and that’s Jay. If LL scrapped the album he would be looking at putting out a better album than Jay-Z last few songs.

 

Bad Andy

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Moe Dee rocked those L’s…. That battle was over after Let’s go.


"Tryna be me, now LL stands for:"Lue Links, Lack Luster:"Last Least, Limp Lover:"Lousy Lame, Latent Lethargic:"Lazy Lemon, Little Logic:"Lucky Leech, Liver Lipped:"Laborious Louse on a Loser's Lips:"Live in Limbo, Lyrical Lapse:"Low Life with the loud raps,

Now look what you done did:"just using your name I took those L’s,:"hung ‘em on your head and rocked your bells...”
 

dugington

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When did Jay Z change his name to Kool Moe Dee??

Why you gotta bring up Kool Moe to help ya boy out?

Kool Moe was dat nigga tho. This the only dude LL ran from a battle from. In his prime, niggas don't remember he was a top 5 guy. Russ was smart not to have that stain on LLs record, sometimes you gotta protect your fighter.

Jay Z on the other hand took that full L from Nas. History will never forget that thrashing. If Dame was around he would have threw in the towel for dat nigga. LOL!!
:yes:
Man, Moe Dee STARTED this battle rap shit. The way we know it to be now.

There was a million party tapes circulating all over New York in those days. But to use today's vernacular, that Moe Dee vs Busy Bee tape was one of the first ones to go viral.
 

mailboxpimp

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Moe Dee rocked those L’s…. That battle was over after Let’s go.


"Tryna be me, now LL stands for:"Lue Links, Lack Luster:"Last Least, Limp Lover:"Lousy Lame, Latent Lethargic:"Lazy Lemon, Little Logic:"Lucky Leech, Liver Lipped:"Laborious Louse on a Loser's Lips:"Live in Limbo, Lyrical Lapse:"Low Life with the loud raps,

Now look what you done did:"just using your name I took those L’s,:"hung ‘em on your head and rocked your bells...”
the track was trash & so was his bars! I used to tell his twin brother that shit to his face! ( my moms was the nurse that took care of their mother when she was in the nursing home... his twin did security @ the apollo theater... I worked there after school, started in the 11th grade & wasnt legally old enough to be there).
 

mailboxpimp

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I decided to pen a hot 16 for all you disrespeckful ass bitchass trash rap niggaah loving ass LL haters......
im not sure if its actually 16 bars cause I dnt know how to count bars but it dnt matter! What matters is
fuck you niggaahz!

now if somebody sends me a beat... imma do it& put it out on youtube records/ phuckyou ho ass niggaahz records (pyhan)
point is.... this is dedicated to all you disrespectful ass ll haters.

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aaaaaaaagggggghhhhhhhhhh
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fuck you niggaahz
i really hate a lotta you mufukkaz!
im disappointed but not surprised!
all the disrespeck & denials...
fuck you niggaahz
from the top of ya head to the bottom of ya feet
i cant stand you mufukkaz
you bitch ass niggaahz is sweet!
fuck you niggaahz
like dj & dr. truth
ya'll blow dicks in the booth
baton twirling, prancing, & gay parade dancing
hugged up with each other, talkin bout hey handsome.

fuck you niggaahz!
fuck you niggaahz!
aaaaaaaagggggghhhhhhhhhh
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fuck you noggaahz.
aaaaaaaagggggghhhhhhhhhh
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ALL you lightskin niggaahz
is glossy lip licking niggaahz
fake gym niggahz,
play the locker room,
lift dick niggaahz
dj at bulldogs
a spinning bitch niggaah!
you fags is outta sight, lightbright!
supreme sausage smoker
ankel grabber, proud fudge packer
he's straight bitch & zod's his master.

fuck you niggaahz!
fuck you niggaahz!
aaaaaaaagggggghhhhhhhhhh
fuck you niggahz!

fuck you niggaahz!
fuck you noggaahz.
aaaaaaaagggggghhhhhhhhhh
fuck you niggahz!

fuck all you fuck ass fuck niggaahz forever & ever!
disrespeckful ass hatin ass, ass, ass ass, ass niggaahz!
bgol bitches!


fuck you! my shit is hot fyaaah!
 

Bad Andy

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the track was trash & so was his bars! I used to tell his twin brother that shit to his face! ( my moms was the nurse that took care of their mother when she was in the nursing home... his twin did security @ the apollo theater... I worked there after school, started in the 11th grade & wasnt legally old enough to be there).
Put that pipe down really smoking if you believe LL won that battle. That LL lip licking must have really had you believing he got barz. By far LL had more hits than KMD. I’m friends with his DJ Easy Lee and he will also tell you KMD can’t compete against LL in a versus. But if the was to battle back then or today not 50 cent his ghost writer, Marley Marl or track masters could save LL.
 

Thegooch

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Difference between Jay & LL is Jay still did songs with all them people y’all claim bodied him on records. He has multiple songs with Em and did a song with Nas who y’all claimed Ethered him. Let’s not also forget Jay signed also signed Nas but no one talks about that. In the long game Jay wins.

LL on the other hand ducked the fade with KMD and was intimidated by Canibus. He made Canibus change his original verse on 4,3,2,1. LL then went back in the studio changed his verse and dissed Canibus. Another bitch ass move no one talks about. Both Red and Meth said LL was overreacting to Canibus original verse. LL saw an easy target and went after Canibus.

I brought up Jay-Z in this thread because LL is a calculating dude and will look at who people will compare him to and that’s Jay. If LL scrapped the album he would be looking at putting out a better album than Jay-Z last few songs.




Yall Stans need LL. LL don't need you. I stand by what I said that LL was damn near retired from rap before Jay Z even had a clue what to do.

LL started acting on In the house in 1995. Enough time for your hero to copy whatever details he needed from LL.

Jay Z has zero charisma or public speaking skills. He could only hope to have a 25-30 year acting career. LL even has a classic movie in Any Given Sunday under his belt. Hollywood star is the best paying easiest gig in the world. Trust me, Jeff Bezos would trade places with Brad or Leo in two seconds. All that money and he still cant bag young hoes like Leo.

When it comes to entertainment Jay Z is just a footnote in Black history. Aint shit special about his career except for being Mrs Knowles.

Watch the Stanleys come in an continue to hijack LL thread. Cant even buy a Jay X decoder ring (do sell shit with his name on it) but swear hes a mogul.

Aint bought a bottle of Bacardi because of the jigga but swear the mogul is doing numbers. Jigga please. Money Looks and charisma will always be >>>> just money.
 

Thegooch

The Devil killed Heist & giggled about it @ brunch
Registered
I decided to pen a hot 16 for all you disrespeckful ass bitchass trash rap niggaah loving ass LL haters......
im not sure if its actually 16 bars cause I dnt know how to count bars but it dnt matter! What matters is
fuck you niggaahz!

now if somebody sends me a beat... imma do it& put it out on youtube records/ phuckyou ho ass niggaahz records (pyhan)
point is.... this is dedicated to all you disrespectful ass ll haters.

fuck you niggaahz!
fuck you niggaahz!.
aaaaaaaagggggghhhhhhhhhh
fuck you niggahz!

fuck you niggaahz
i really hate a lotta you mufukkaz!
im disappointed but not surprised!
all the disrespeck & denials...
fuck you niggaahz
from the top of ya head to the bottom of ya feet
i cant stand you mufukkaz
you bitch ass niggaahz is sweet!
fuck you niggaahz
like dj & dr. truth
ya'll blow dicks in the booth
baton twirling, prancing, & gay parade dancing
hugged up with each other, talkin bout hey handsome.

fuck you niggaahz!
fuck you niggaahz!
aaaaaaaagggggghhhhhhhhhh
fuck you niggahz!

fuck you niggaahz!
fuck you noggaahz.
aaaaaaaagggggghhhhhhhhhh
fuck you niggahz!

ALL you lightskin niggaahz
is glossy lip licking niggaahz
fake gym niggahz,
play the locker room,
lift dick niggaahz
dj at bulldogs
a spinning bitch niggaah!
you fags is outta sight, lightbright!
supreme sausage smoker
ankel grabber, proud fudge packer
he's straight bitch & zod's his master.

fuck you niggaahz!
fuck you niggaahz!
aaaaaaaagggggghhhhhhhhhh
fuck you niggahz!

fuck you niggaahz!
fuck you noggaahz.
aaaaaaaagggggghhhhhhhhhh
fuck you niggahz!

fuck all you fuck ass fuck niggaahz forever & ever!
disrespeckful ass hatin ass, ass, ass ass, ass niggaahz!
bgol bitches!


fuck you! my shit is hot fyaaah!

Yeah, I putting this song on the official BGOL soundtrack.

"ALL you lightskin niggaahz
is glossy lip licking niggaahz
fake gym niggahz,
play the locker room"

Got me ROTFL!!!


Fuck you nigggahz if you dont like it either......

Fuck you niggahz, fuck yooou niggahz is so catchy that it rolls right of your tongue........Fuck you niggahz if you dont like dis shit!!!!
 

mailboxpimp

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Put that pipe down really smoking if you believe LL won that battle. That LL lip-licking must have really had you believing he got barz. By far LL had more hits than KMD. I’m friends with his DJ Easy Lee and he will also tell you KMD can’t compete against LL in a versus. But if the was to battle back then or today not 50 cent his ghost writer, Marley Marl or track masters could save LL.
aaaah...... respectfully FUCK YOU! I HATE YOU! YOU ARE DELUSIONAL. Im not sure what 50 Cent has to do with any of this. I dont know anything about a ghost writer.
I might have to block you. :dunno: :yes: His dj is trash too.... aint nobody ever heard of that niggaah. FUCK KMD
 

dik cashmere

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Put that pipe down really smoking if you believe LL won that battle. That LL lip licking must have really had you believing he got barz. By far LL had more hits than KMD. I’m friends with his DJ Easy Lee and he will also tell you KMD can’t compete against LL in a versus. But if the was to battle back then or today not 50 cent his ghost writer, Marley Marl or track masters could save LL.
aaaah...... respectfully FUCK YOU! I HATE YOU! YOU ARE DELUSIONAL. Im not sure what 50 Cent has to do with any of this. I dont know anything about a ghost writer.
I might have to block you. :dunno: :yes: His dj is trash too.... aint nobody ever heard of that niggaah. FUCK KMD
Paradise ft Amerie was a song 50 wrote for himself before he got shot

poke and tone gave the record to L not thinking that 50 was gonna be able to rap again
 
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