LL has Dr.Dre Syndrome

Dannyblueyes

Aka Illegal Danny
BGOL Investor
Nah that ain't it. It's hard to be a rapper when your almost 60. People rap about their life experiences and things that they are currently going through at the moment.

It's hard for a teen, 20 something or even a 30 plus year old to relate to someone emotionally or from a life perspective, to someone who is almost 60 in everyday life. That inability to relate will translate and carry over in music too as well.

The theme or subject matter in most rap songs aren't age group transcendent. The themes are always age group specific.

The only people that can like any music he makes are people in his own age group.

I would agree, except that most people in LL's age group aren't looking for his new material either. They want the stuff they grew up to, popped their cherry to, played in their first car, saw him perform at that classic concert they keep referencing to anyone who will listen.

LL's new stuff, even if it's good, it's just going to remind them of how old they are. And that's the opposite of what they're trying to accomplish by buying his album.

IMO, the best thing that he can do is get on a project with an up and coming rapper. Not just something where he drops a verse in his basement and calls it a day. Go to their studio and let their vision direct the show. Let the people who create today's music decide where he fits in.

That's how it works with most 40+ year old rappers still in the game. Future, French Montana, e-40, etc.
 
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Dannyblueyes

Aka Illegal Danny
BGOL Investor
...and herein lies the problem with rap: every other genre of music is allowed to age and have legacy artists. No one expects Paul McCartney, Neil Diamond, Metallica, Billy Idol, Dave Matthews, Bruce Springsteen, etc. to sound new.
Only in hip hop and pop are artists expected and demanded to update their sound, but only in hip-hop are the older artists, who should be getting respect for what they have done and having paved the way, expected to sound "current" or be deemed as not relevant.
This is why hip hop holds no value and the music industry has used it as toilet paper for the past three decades, milking it of its value, then discarding it immediately. This is why hip-hop catalogues ain't worth shit - because they convinced people that it needs to "stay current" or its worthless.

In the meantime, legacy rockers can tour forever and still sell compilation albums and get residuals from "Best of" albums and get their songs in movies, tv shows and so on.
The music business started grooming consumers in the 90s and it worked.
As usual, black folks on the low end of the profit spectrum.

I don't disagree with your point, but there's a few issues here.

The reason nobody expects Paul McCartney to sound new is because most of his record sales comes from older fans who changed formats. They bought the Beatles 45s then LPs, then 8 tracks, cassettes, the CDs, and now the iTunes singles, remastered versions, etc.

The reason a lot of these older hip hop catalogs aren't worth as much is because of samples. For some stupid reason there's still no statute of limitations on copyright infringement. A rapper who sampled a song back in 1985 can still have his publishing torn to shreds for not clearing their shit 40 years ago. If LL Cool J or Young MC were to try to sell their catalogs I could imagine Dennis Coffey holding out a wrinkled hand for his cut. Or maybe put his foot down when "bust a move" or "jinglin baby" is slated to appear in a movie or commercial that he doesn't agree with.

As for pop artists. Of course they're expected to sound current. It's literally called "popular music".
 

CORNBREAD

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
He said Qtip is producing his latest album
Im trying to imagine LL style in 2023.It doesn't matter who is dropping beats. And as far as Qtip .Well it would have been nice if he worked on De La Soul or Black Starr's Last album!!!

Can anyone here tell me what was the last song is produced?
 
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knightmelodic

American fruit, Afrikan root.
BGOL Investor
I always kinda hated the age thing with Rap…The Stones The Eagles AC/DC etc can tour and release music until they’re 93 but rappers are played out once they hit 30 something


I hate the rolling stones; always have. I don't know anything about ac/dc except the name but I'm pretty sure those groups are not releasing new material.

However, my comment was tongue-in-cheek. I couldn't care less if they rolled them out in wheelchairs. If people want to pay to see 50, 60 year old rappers more power to them. It ain't my money.
 

jasonblacc

Rising Star
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I always kinda hated the age thing with Rap…The Stones The Eagles AC/DC etc can tour and release music until they’re 93 but rappers are played out once they hit 30 something
I hate it too, sometimes it’s about context of the songs. Parents pass down Rolling Stones and Eagles to their kids and attend tours with them. A lot of of era was flooded with street rap, and I don’t know if im 55 if I want to hear that type of music let alone pass it down to my kids. My son heard some Mobb Deep and was appalled. There are groups like Roots/Tribe etc that can and should tour until infinity but some the content is too limited.
 
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