Marvel woke up today and said......let me remind y'all who the fuck we are!!

playahaitian

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I think he wants better movies
A lot of cookie cutter stuff out there

Well HE needs to start at home.

HE needs to make better movies

HIRE all those actors he THINKS are not getting enough shine or material to shine

SUPPORT more black creatives behind and in front of the camera

because MARVEL does.

Do not TALK about it

BE ABOUT it.
 

therealjondoe

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Well HE needs to start at home.

HE needs to make better movies

HIRE all those actors he THINKS are not getting enough shine or material to shine

SUPPORT more black creatives behind and in front of the camera

because MARVEL does.

Do not TALK about it

BE ABOUT it.
:lol:
He's only making 1 more and he's retiring.
He has a series coming but 1 more movie and he's done. He wants to go out while he's still good before he falls off.
 

playahaitian

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:lol:
He's only making 1 more and he's retiring.
He has a series coming but 1 more movie and he's done. He wants to go out while he's still good before he falls off.

exactly

I am a diehard QT fan (still need to finish his book

I study his scripts own DVDs of all his films seen him speak

the man is a historian and walking encyclopedic savant of grindhouse 50 60 70 era film

that being said

He OWES SO MUCH to black culture (and asian and Italian) in MANY ways from his writing and directing style

All his talk to me is always tainted

and this was a lazy take

again I aint even saying he all the way wrong I get it

But its lazy, easy and cheap.

And there is so much REAL sh*t he talk on in the industry which he has NEVER and will never do

I aint giving any of this weight.
 

therealjondoe

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exactly

I am a diehard QT fan

the man is a historian and walking encyclopedic savant of grindhouse 50 60 70 era film

that being said

He OWES SO MUCH to black culture (and asian and italian) in MANY ways from his writing and directing style
He's been making the podcast rounds promoting his new book. Some good interviews out there
 

Piff Henderson

Stage Manager of Stage Managers
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Yeah, I went back that far just because of the success of those films. But my point still stands, because all this nonsense didn't happen until recently. While things would be altered, source material was respected a lot more until the last decade. Because fandom is the only fucking reason Iron Man existed. Now it's fuck fandom.

How toxic would BGOL get if Marvel made blade an asian woman, made blade gay, or made blade a secondary character in his own fucking movie just to push a woman? 20 pages with database errors. :lol: Meanwhile, Marvel would be on twitter tell 'cis' black men to kick rocks and claiming any criticism cats had was 'review bombing', homophobic, or whatever.

Yeah racists/sexists out there in the fandom, but hard to tell who is who(outside blatant slurs) when weirdos are twisting source material. Because we will have to merge threads when they fuck over a black male character. And the way things going, that day is coming sooner than you think. And yeah, I'm going to be toxic as hell.

Mackie is spot on about fans. Marvel is losing touch with what brought them success. The ability to satisfy fans who built the fucking source material while adapting source material for film. We don't even get any of this if they pulled what they pulling now with the first Iron man.
Hardcore fans play an initial role in getting something adapted to film, but they're not enough to make it profitable. Changes are made because not everything comes off well on-screen and you have to appeal to the masses.

For instance, It's been over 20 years and we haven't seen another Spawn film. Todd NcFarlane, the creator of Spawn, was involved so it adhered closely to the source. It just wasn't appealing to a wide-enough audience.

Blade was less well-known than Spawn. I only knew of the character because of the Spider-Man cartoon. Source material didn't really matter there. As for Superman, he's been changing since his debut. He couldn't even fly originally and then they gave him all kinds of powers in the 50s. As long you make him an alien who wears a cape, trunks, tights, and can fly, that's all that people care about.

Unless these fanboys get together and crowd-fund their own films -- they'll never make enough to afford the budget of a typical MCU film which is like the GDP of a small country -- then they have to be happy with what the big studios put out. The studios want asses in the seats, they always have. The "go woke and go broke" mantra hasn't held up like right-wingers claim so look for more diversity in superhero films.
 

Politic Negro

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Please don't say that. I just got Disney+ for the first time ever to watch it and the rest of the Marvel shows because it was 3 bucks per month with the 2 dollar hulu deal.
As far as the MCU shows, I like:

Falcoln & Winter Soldier (would rewatch)
Wandavision
Loki (would rewatch)
What If
Ms. Marvel
Moon Knight
Werewolf by Night (might rewatch)
 

playahaitian

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Hardcore fans play an initial role in getting something adapted to film, but they're not enough to make it profitable. Changes are made because not everything comes off well on-screen and you have to appeal to the masses.

For instance, It's been over 20 years and we haven't seen another Spawn film. Todd NcFarlane, the creator of Spawn, was involved so it adhered closely to the source. It just wasn't appealing to a wide-enough audience.

Blade was less well-known than Spawn. I only knew of the character because of the Spider-Man cartoon. Source material didn't really matter there. As for Superman, he's been changing since his debut. He couldn't even fly originally and then they gave him all kinds of powers in the 50s. As long you make him an alien who wears a cape, trunks, tights, and can fly, that's all that people care about.

Unless these fanboys get together and crowd-fund their own films -- they'll never make enough to afford the budget of a typical MCU film which is like the GDP of a small country -- then they have to be happy with what the big studios put out. The studios want asses in the seats, they always have. The "go woke and go broke" mantra hasn't held up like right-wingers claim so look for more diversity in superhero films.

^^^^^
 

Don Coreleone

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Universal and Sony will never, ever give up Namor, Hulk and Spider-Man full movie rights... :lol:
Never say never. It was a time when people said Fox would never give up X-men and Fantastic Four. Side note I guess that's why they made the Latino Namoor and not the Asian looking Namor.
 

D'Evils

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Never say never. It was a time when people said Fox would never give up X-men and Fantastic Four. Side note I guess that's why they made the Latino Namoor and not the Asian looking Namor.

Shit they didn't give them up...
The Mouse said fuck it and bought Fox... Lol

I think the change had more to do with DC/Aquaman/Atlantis... The article said it had more to do with marketing/movie rights...

The change gave Namor more of a real world cultural connection unlike DC and their fake cities (Atlantis, Gotham, Smallville, etc...)
 

Piff Henderson

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The change gave Namor more of a real world cultural connection unlike DC and their fake cities (Atlantis, Gotham, Smallville, etc...)
Ironic considering Wakanda is a completely fictional country. It's hard to tell which African country its even based on if any. With Gotham, for instance, it's obvious it's based on NYC.
 

blackbull1970

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Watched it last night with the family.

It runs for about 40 minutes.

It is part of the MCU mainly giving an update status of GOTG from their last appearance in “Thor:Ragnarok”.

Nothing stood out particularly with Kevin Bacon if he is actually “Sebastian Shaw”. He performed a stunt at his home that caught my eye, but it could be easily argued against.

Mantis used her mind powers on him, Sebastian Shaw in the comics has the ability to protect himself from telepathic control which he has displayed a number of times against Professor X. There was a quick response by Bacon with Mantis which raised my eyebrow in one scene. But it wasn’t anything to stand on until what we see in future MCU projects with his character.

Other than that, it’s just something to watch. It has a small after credit scene.
 

TENT

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Wasn’t it a parody of the Star Wars one? So it was supposed to be garbage and for kids. Are you 12 years old homie? It ain’t for you. You know that right?

You know you watching the Disney Channel right?
That xmas special was garbage.
 

Politic Negro

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Wasn’t it a parody of the Star Wars one? So it was supposed to be garbage and for kids. Are you 12 years old homie? It ain’t for you. You know that right?

You know you watching the Disney Channel right?
Was it supposed to be? Drinking in a bar and getting drunk is supposed to be for the kids hun? I understand what a standalone Christmas special is. I called it garbage because the jokes were recycled, felt forced and barely contributed to the upcoming storylines which could encourage a re-watch. Now we know how Disney+ lost a Billion in a quarter.

....and no, I'm watching Disney+ not the Disney Channel.
 

TENT

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Disney + is Disney Channel +

Was it supposed to be? Drinking in a bar and getting drunk is supposed to be for the kids hun? I understand what a standalone Christmas special is. I called it garbage because the jokes were recycled, felt forced and barely contributed to the upcoming storylines which could encourage a re-watch. Now we know how Disney+ lost a Billion in a quarter.

....and no, I'm watching Disney+ not the Disney Channel.
 

gene cisco

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BGOL Investor
Hardcore fans play an initial role in getting something adapted to film, but they're not enough to make it profitable. Changes are made because not everything comes off well on-screen and you have to appeal to the masses.

For instance, It's been over 20 years and we haven't seen another Spawn film. Todd NcFarlane, the creator of Spawn, was involved so it adhered closely to the source. It just wasn't appealing to a wide-enough audience.

Blade was less well-known than Spawn. I only knew of the character because of the Spider-Man cartoon. Source material didn't really matter there. As for Superman, he's been changing since his debut. He couldn't even fly originally and then they gave him all kinds of powers in the 50s. As long you make him an alien who wears a cape, trunks, tights, and can fly, that's all that people care about.

Unless these fanboys get together and crowd-fund their own films -- they'll never make enough to afford the budget of a typical MCU film which is like the GDP of a small country -- then they have to be happy with what the big studios put out. The studios want asses in the seats, they always have. The "go woke and go broke" mantra hasn't held up like right-wingers claim so look for more diversity in superhero films.
Well, it sure is funny how things are playing out now. With the studios shitting on 'hardcore' fans, shit is not going well at all. That is undeniable. You mention Spawn and Blade from over 2 decades ago and then diversity. As if diversity wasn't there otherwise you couldn't even mention those movies.

It's not even about right-wingers as much as it is far leftists. Most people are in the middle(BGOL included). Facts. It's not far-right to not want to see dudes hugged up on screen. We got black people wondering where strong male characters are in some recent films and they aren't far-right.

You talk about audiences and asses in the seats. Americans comics are getting crushed by Manga. Same reason Marvel is losing its mojo. Fanboys ain't going to have to do shit. Once folks get enough of bombing(yelling at fans) and/or not making the profits they should be, they will produce content like they did up to about 2015 or so. Only so much they can put fake reviews up at rotten tomatoes and cry about 'review bombing' when the numbers don't add up.

Marvel streaming has been a fucking joke. Go yell at the fans some more. :lol:

This shit is literally like watching the titanic. Ship is taking on water. Someone better tell Feige that women like to be saved by men. Who is he selling the 'more women heroes than men' Marvel too? Pink haired freaks at Berkley? Why is he using the WNBA business model when he had the fucking NBA?

Like you said, appeal to the masses. I agree. But the masses are in the middle. Marvel better listen to Mackie. Fans, fans, fans. They losing them slowly but surely.
 

playahaitian

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Universal and Sony will never, ever give up Namor, Hulk and Spider-Man full movie rights... :lol:

Not so fast

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Ball don't lie
 

Flawless

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Never say never. It was a time when people said Fox would never give up X-men and Fantastic Four. Side note I guess that's why they made the Latino Namoor and not the Asian looking Namor.

Spiderman is the only thing keeping Sony pictures alive, they will never sell.

Marvel desperately gave Sony a forever deal back in the day where as long as Sony makes a Spiderman movie every 3 years Sony will have the rights forever. Even if Sony has to release a shitty movie when will make it just to keep the rights.
 
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