(May 24 2023) - Another Sandy Hook just happened

code_pirahna

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No how about get rid of the guns and don't have a shooter in the first place.
What fantasy world is there that this exists?

You all keep referring to these bullshit utopias that you will never see in your lifetime

"A world without guns.."

You guys really need to embrace reality if you are going to seriously discuss this issue.
 

Mixd

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What u think about this bro


I don't have the answers. All I know is many in control want to use tragedies like this to further gain control of the people.

All those countries where guns have been removed, so were their rights.

The whole base of what the constitution was written is so govt worked for the people. Not using the people to enrich the govt and giving up our rights of freedom.

Covid was a test of how far they could push the world. They're meeting now in Davos and over 150 countries intentions are to give up their sovereignty to the World Health Organization.

I'm not with that.
 

code_pirahna

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What does it matter how big your gun is if you ain't gon bust it? All this talk is cute but when the adrenaline is pumping, your hand is sweaty and shaking, nerves shot, and the person across from you doesn't care about dying, shit is different. I'm sure those boys in blue talked big and bad prior to the shit hitting the fans but the bottom line is the cops yesterday and cops at Parkland were shook and chose their personal safety over that of the kids. It's not a judgment. It's facts. So all this more more guns talk is moot. All this arming the teachers and lunch ladies goofy talk is moot. They're not gonna bust those guns. The fucking cops who get paid for protect fall back and wait for backup. And in the meantime, 20 will die. The only thing that would've stopped yesterday is if that disturbed teenager wasn't allowed to buy an assault rifle.
Now this is a different conversation about who will or wont shoot. That is an individual decision that doesn t negate the fact that the ones who did shoot eventually stopped the shooter.
 

code_pirahna

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How does day to day life look for the average citizen when everywhere you go you have to be armed & on edge incase some random person decides today is the day he wants to snuff out people he doesn't like?

NEWSFLASH: This is the exact world you live in today.

My entire point in all my post in this thread is that you cannot legislate your way to prevent these acts especially when MOST Americans want their guns.

The reason there has been no change in the laws is because the voters want their guns.
 

Piff Henderson

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NEWSFLASH: This is the exact world you live in today.

My entire point in all my post in this thread is that you cannot legislate your way to prevent these acts especially when MOST Americans want their guns.

The reason there has been no change in the laws is because the voters want their guns.
Most voters, including in TX, support gun control. What politicians do isn't exactly what the public wants.
 

code_pirahna

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Not at the rate they occur in the US.

There's never been an airline that hasn't had an accident, but would you rather fly on one that has an average of ten accidents a year or one that has one accident every ten years?
How then do you stop mass killings in the US.

Please tell me something realistic
 

Piff Henderson

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Gun control meaning what exactly?

Feel good measures that wont prevent shit like background checks??????
There are no background checks for gun shows and most gun owners support having them there. 65% of Republican gun owners want background checks for private gun purchases and gun shows.
 

Piff Henderson

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Those small border towns are Republikkklan white washed Mexicoons. They feel they are better than Mexicans in Mexico. They think if they act like red neck cac Texans they will be accepted and not face racism.
When will they get that wake up if not now? Redneck pigs sat around as their kids were massacred.
 

Mixd

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There are no background checks for gun shows and most gun owners support having them there. 65% of Republican gun owners want background checks for private gun purchases and gun shows.
I'm all for background checks.
Gun shows do require background checks at shows I've gone to, whenever buying from a dealer. I'm assuming you mean an unlicensed dealer?

And all these background checks may help but the criminals aren't buying a gun legally anyways. All my life growing up, in NYC, no one I knew had guns legally. A criminal, while it may help, they gonna get one by any means anyway.

Its why I don't have the answers, don't know what needs to be done.

But taking away guns, what if this was 'you'



She wouldn't of lived to tell that story, police wouldn't be there in time to stop anything.
 

Piff Henderson

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I'm all for background checks.
Gun shows do require background checks at shows I've gone to, whenever buying from a dealer. I'm assuming you mean an unlicensed dealer?

And all these background checks may help but the criminals aren't buying a gun legally anyways. All my life growing up, in NYC, no one I knew had guns legally. A criminal, while it may help, they gonna get one by any means anyway.

Its why I don't have the answers, don't know what needs to be done.

But taking away guns, what if this was 'you'



She wouldn't of lived to tell that story, police wouldn't be there in time to stop anything.

These most recent mass shooters bought their guns legally. The Buffalo shooter definitely would've been prevented from buying a gun if we had adequate red flag laws given his history of violent threats against a school.

What about the gun show loophole? From what I've read, a private gun seller, I guess "unlicensed" sense he probably doesn't own a gun store, can legally sell a gun to someone without having to perform a background check.

Not discounting that story but it could've easily been me or one of my relatives in Tops grocery. My Mom goes grocery shopping a lot in the morning and I can't imagine someone live streaming as he shoots her while she's lying on the ground.

PS

She's lucky the intruder wasn't armed. A gun is an "equalizer" as long the other person is unarmed and doesn't have a higher capacity gun, body armored or isn't younger.
 
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Big Tex

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NEWSFLASH: This is the exact world you live in today.

My entire point in all my post in this thread is that you cannot legislate your way to prevent these acts especially when MOST Americans want their guns.

The reason there has been no change in the laws is because the voters want their guns.

And what you keep saying but don't want to admit is that you and the other gun cultists in this country are ok with kids getting slaughtered as long as it means you keep your guns. Because the rest of the world shows how to stop these killings.

Also it's not the will of the voters why the laws don't change. It's the money of the NRA.
 

RoomService

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Elon Musk Chooses Sides on Gun Control Debate

“I strongly believe that the right to bear arms is an important safeguard against potential tyranny of government. Historically, maintaining their power over the people is why those in power did not allow public ownership of guns,” Musk told CNBC on May 25.
The billionaire then told the outlet that he supports “tight background checks” for all gun sales and limiting sales of assault weapons to people in special circumstances, like gun range owners, or people who live in a “high risk location, like gang warfare.”

 

Mixd

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These most recent mass shooters bought their guns legally. The Buffalo shooter definitely would've been prevented from buying a gun if we had adequate red flag laws given history of violent threats against a school.

What about the gun show loophole? From what I've read, a private gun seller, I guess "unlicensed" sense he probably doesn't own a gun store, can legally sell a gun to someone without having to perform a background check.

Not discounting that story but it could've easily been me or one of mrelatives in Tops grocery. My Mom goes grocery shopping a lot in the morning and I can't imagine someone live streaming as he shoots her while she's lying on theground.my
Yeah the first paragraph you stated, I said earlier, I think we can all agree that we are all being watched, recorded and tracked. It's no conspiracy no more. Been proven in the news time and time again. I believe they have these measures in place already. Doing something about it is the issue.

And unlicensed sales can happen anywhere. Has nothing to do with a show or dealer. It's just like me selling you one of my guns. I guess it can be somewhat regulated by recording the sale.

But again, yeah the shooters in Buffalo and this bought it legally. But majority of illegal owners just don't. They gonna get them by any means.

I just want to know what changed since when I was growing up til now. I've never seen shootings on a mass scale like this present day. Madness
 
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