Ryan Gosling surprises Greta Gerwig with Barbie and Ken flash mob
Ryan Gosling surprised Greta Gerwig with a Barbie and Ken flash mob for her birthday: 'That was so beautiful.'
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I get it. You more the entertainment industry(about the people in it) guy, while I like the numbers. These studios basically admit the budgets in a lot of cases. We sure as hell know when they discuss profits/losses on those earning calls. Man, it's basically fill in the blanks at this point.But like I tell all my entertainment experts on bgol...
We really don't know the ACTUAL budgets.
Even these so called projection experts are off as f*ck
But of course we make excuses for them and make them millions like the so called political voting experts that said trump couldn't win
You know how many of these so called experts were WRONG about these grosses?
But instead of saying they just "guessing" it's I can't believed the public??? They are so unpredictable??? It must have word if mouth? Blah blah blah
they just don't know
Because while it's complicated as f*ck it's also as simple.
Money, the trailer, the late night talk show interview, music from the movie, weather, feelings that day, theatre quality, the app not working, free passes, discount tickets, the theatre printing the wrong ticket for the movie (yeah that STILL happens), marketing & promotion, gossip, social media, YouTube video review, the LAST EXPERIENCE at theater, bgol cinema, etc etc etc
So while I agree with you?
I also have skepticism with ALL these actual numbers to the point where that part ain't even really fun anymore.
OK, "Barbie": I was hoping it wouldn't be preachy, man-hating, and a #ZombieLie - alas, it was all three. What is a Zombie Lie? Something that never was true, but certain people refuse to stop saying it (tax cuts for the rich increase revenues, e.g.); OR something that USED to be true but no longer is, but certain people pretend it's still true. "Barbie" is this kind of #ZombieLie.
Spoiler alert, Barbie fights the Patriarchy. Right up to the Mattel board who created her, consisting of 12 white men! The Patriarchy! Except there's a Mattel board in real life, and it's 7 men and 5 women. OK, not perfect even-steven, but not the way the board IN THE MOVIE - which takes place in 2023 - is portrayed. And not really any longer deserving of the word "patriarchy." Yes, there was one, and remnants of it remain - but this movie is so 2000-LATE.
At one point the Barbies have to win over the Kens, and they are told to do it by pretending to act helpless and not know how to do stuff. Helen Gurley Brown called, she wants her premise back. Yes, that WAS a thing. I saw "Barbie" with a woman in her 30s who said, "I don't know a single woman of any age who would act like that today."
I know, I know, 'How could I know about the patriarchy, I AM a man!' That argument is so old and so silly. Of course, none of us can know exactly what others go through life, but I can see the world around me, and I can read data. The real Mattel board is a pretty close mirror of the country, where 45% of the 449 board seats filled last year in Fortune 500 companies were women. Truth is, I'm not the one who's out of step - I'm living in the year we're living in. Barbie is fun, I enjoyed it - but it IS a #ZombieLie. And people who don't go along with zombie lies did not take some red pill - just staying true to CURRENT reality. Let's live in the year we're living in! Hi Ken!!! #BarbieMovie
I get it. You more the entertainment industry(about the people in it) guy, while I like the numbers. These studios basically admit the budgets in a lot of cases. We sure as hell know when they discuss profits/losses on those earning calls. Man, it's basically fill in the blanks at this point.
Confusion with numbers happens because of bullshit places like screenrant. They only took production budget into account and then anounce that GoG3 made over $250 million. Or you have Rock and Kev talking gross revenue. Trust me, I get the skepticism. But if you doubt the numbers, why are people like Iger admitting losses on earnings calls and making massive cuts? So trust that the numbers that folks are reporting for losses are close to real as possible.
But hey, this a barbie celebration thread. So the biggest film of the year is part of the culture war. I find it funny as hell man. Blonde hair, blue eye white women is going to be the 'we stuck it to incels' moment for 2023. It's funny when I can honestly say both sides look confused as fuck this time. Like they don't even know what they arguing, they just see the other side and try to take up an opposite position.
Well, it's to the point the west has to know the middle east, China, and some other places don't play that gender made up shit. So yeah, they knew it going in and did a good job hiding it. Sometimes, they just cut the shit out for those places.@gene cisco
will this even MATTER?
I assume the studio KNEW this going in?
Kuwait and Lebanon to ban 'Barbie' over gender and sexuality
Kuwait and Lebanon have moved to ban 'Barbie' in theaters, citing themes of gender and sexuality.ew.com
Kuwait and Lebanon to ban Barbie over gender and sexuality
Lebanon's culture minister says the summer blockbuster "promotes sexual deviance and transsexuality."
By Jessica WangAugust 10, 2023 at 12:36 PM EDT
Barbie was set to cruise into the Middle East in her pink convertible this week, but the doll's hit some roadblocks en route to Kuwait and Lebanon.
Kuwait announced that Barbie has been banned late Wednesday, stating that the summer blockbuster from director Greta Gerwig promotes "ideas and beliefs that are alien to the Kuwaiti society and public order," without further elaboration, per the Associated Press.
Authorities in Lebanon have also moved to ban the film after delaying its release to late August. Culture Minister Mohammad Mortada said it contradicts "moral and religious values as well as the principles of Lebanon" and "promotes homosexuality and sexual transformation." The movie also "promotes sexual deviance and transsexuality," the minister said.
Margot Robbie and Ryan Gosling in 'Barbie'
| CREDIT: WARNER BROS. PICTURES
The bans come amid heightened anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric by politicians and officials in the country and surrounding regions in the Middle East, many of which consider homosexuality sinful. Hassan Nasrallah, leader of political party and militant group Hezbollah in Lebanon, appeared to call for anti-gay violence last month, calling the LGBTQ+ community a "threat to society" and inciting harassment and death threats against the community.
Led by Margot Robbie and Ryan Gosling, Barbie does not feature any overt sexuality, though the star-studded cast includes folks from the LGBTQ+ community, including Kate McKinnon, Hari Nef, Alexandra Shipp, and Scott Evans. The film recently crossed the $1 billion mark at the box office, making Gerwig the first solo female director to race past the threshold.
Another summer blockbuster, Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse, was similarly pulled from theaters across the Middle East last month, reportedly over a scene that included a poster featuring the transgender flag in the background.
That's supposedly the next ip Nintendo is going to make, I can see it being a great animated film, question is which Zelda to adapt? Botw/totk era would be epic!
Well, it's to the point the west has to know the middle east, China, and some other places don't play that gender made up shit. So yeah, they knew it going in and did a good job hiding it. Sometimes, they just cut the shit out for those places.
None of this stops Barbie from being the biggest movie of the year. Had they just made it 'normal'('no alphabet/down with the patriarchy shit) probably would be doing some all-time numbers. So many more people would be going multiple times the world over.
What I mean is that the experience by itself is what was hot about the movie. All those people in pink. All the grown women taking their kids and draggings significant others. Only thing the story(patriarchy shit and tranny) could do was turn SOME people off with the messaging and kill repeat sales/word of mouth. That's it. Much like mario, story should be simple.I have nit seen it yet
But from what I heard THAT is the foundation of the overall story
So I would "assume" without that it probably wouldn't be as hot?
What I mean is that the experience by itself is what was hot about the movie. All those people in pink. All the grown women taking their kids and draggings significant others. Only thing the story(patriarchy shit and tranny) could do was turn SOME people off with the messaging and kill repeat sales/word of mouth. That's it. Much like mario, story should be simple.
That's why I talk so much about the marketing for this movie. Marketing just was about Barbie, none of the other shit folks complain about. It's one reason why I was saying this would be a hit then when folks started seeing it and reporting the story I was confused as hell. This a $2 billion movie if normal.
Look at the other $2 billion movies. They were all events/experiences. And with NOTHING to compete with for the foreseeable future???? Sheeeeeeeeit. This would have been even bigger than now, which is saying a lot.
Yeah, it could be viewed that SOME LGBTQ people came out because of it being gay friendly, but as you said, it is intrinsically that way. Barbie is for little girls and boys who feel like little girls. They were all going to come out anyway. It's their childhood too. Gay folks still would have been out in all pink just like as kids they had their barbie dolls, shirts, posters, etc.It's funny you say that..theatre owners would disagree o had followed telling me theatres were rented out the teamed with outside sponsor etc. That group felt like it was a gay friendly movie
Not COMPLETELY disagreeing with you though
Only about the marketing not targeting that community that's it.
Whoever did the promotion needs a raise cause that community felt seen and apparently the targeted marketing worked and made them feel like it WAS their movie.
But OTHER PEOPLE did too and didn't feel threatened
You right about something else too.
Barbie is intrinsically gay trans queer friendly fanbase always has been always will be
but it's always for the "girls" and EVERYTHING that entails
And they did not mess that up and most importantly didn't let outsiders mess it up
And the girl dads represented
It was brilliant.
But I'm NOT surprised (but go to thru the first 2 pages of this thread and read some of the comments againt the movie and me even posting about it)
it's unfair to compare that to comics where it's ALWAYS been racist and prejudice baked in.
Gamers are tricky but Mario to me was such a family friendly targeted movie...
And the demographic was so vast
And they never were going to mess with the IP they DIDN'T HAVE TO.
Disney need to study this and use it for Marvels and also WW3 and Captain America and Superman and well every thing
As she should.
From what i heard, the movie was all her idea.
So, no more Suicide Squad movies
The InCells are foaming at the mouth over this.
HaHa!!!
‘Barbie’ tops ‘The Dark Knight’ to become Warner Bros.’ biggest movie ever at the American box office
The Greta Gerwig-directed film about the iconic doll, is now Warner Bros.’ highest-grossing domestic release, beating the former title holder, the 2008 film “The Dark Knight.” As of Tuesday, “Barbie” has made $537.4 million at the US box office, surpassing the haul of director Christopher Nolan’s Batman blockbuster, “The Dark Knight,” which amassed $536 million.
Bro I know a lot of women and no they wouldn’t be watching this movie if the feminist stuff wasn’t in there. Women are seeing this like it’s the hottest romance movie because of the message & the director was smart enough to have Barbie’s be represented by women of all shapes, colors, and sizes.What I mean is that the experience by itself is what was hot about the movie. All those people in pink. All the grown women taking their kids and draggings significant others. Only thing the story(patriarchy shit and tranny) could do was turn SOME people off with the messaging and kill repeat sales/word of mouth. That's it. Much like mario, story should be simple.
That's why I talk so much about the marketing for this movie. Marketing just was about Barbie, none of the other shit folks complain about. It's one reason why I was saying this would be a hit then when folks started seeing it and reporting the story I was confused as hell. This a $2 billion movie if normal.
Look at the other $2 billion movies. They were all events/experiences. And with NOTHING to compete with for the foreseeable future???? Sheeeeeeeeit. This would have been even bigger than now, which is saying a lot.
As she should.
From what i heard, the movie was all her idea.
So, no more Suicide Squad movies
We all know a lot of women. It's a fact due to the promotion that damn near no one fucking knew that the patriarchy shit was in the movie. We have discussed the masterful promotion at length in this thread. It was only once the screenings hit days before release when people started talking about the alleged anti-man shit. Again, it was discussed here in real time.Bro I know a lot of women and no they wouldn’t be watching this movie if the feminist stuff wasn’t in there. Women are seeing this like it’s the hottest romance movie because of the message & the director was smart enough to have Barbie’s be represented by women of all shapes, colors, and sizes.
Literally this is a movie magic movie where if you read the script it would be stupid, the concept is stupid, but the director and actors turned this shit into gold. I’m going to go a step further and say if national Abortion wasn’t struck down women wouldn’t be so open to this message right now.
You think a bunch of women are watching that movie 2-3 times each just because of Margot Robbie wearing a pink dress. The whole movie is a feel good movie for women. Like how Black Panther was a feel good movie for black people. Barbie tongue in cheek approach to women feeling like second class citizens is why it did well & it being a trip down their childhood nostalgia. I also don’t think you can say “staying true to the IP” makes money when the movie ends with Barbie visiting a gynecologist.We all know a lot of women. It's a fact due to the promotion that damn near no one fucking knew that the patriarchy shit was in the movie. We have discussed the masterful promotion at length in this thread. It was only once the screenings hit days before release when people started talking about the alleged anti-man shit. Again, it was discussed here in real time.
Women were there for the experience(just like women watch sports for the experience thus they don't support WNBA ). Period. The promotion that showed an experience. They were planning to see this and the screening noise didn't do shit and the anti-man shit seemed to be overblown after more people seen it.
And the primary promotion focused on blonde, blue eyed barbie(no 'stick it to incel' marketing). Hell, I remember seeing the promotion in the winter when Mario was doing numbers and saying this would be a hit because it stayed true to the IP. Seemed the women felt that way too.
And I will state once again, this is a lesson for all of hollywood. Stay true to the IP. Make it recognizeable. Hide ANY messaging shit on the backend once money is in hand.
Barbie was never, ever, ever for straight men, so this wasn't the 'incels are mad' shit desperate folks claiming. They desperate for a win. Barbie ain't it though. Barbie proves the 'incels' right. They gave women the barbie and pink world they recognized(instead of doing a Velma swap for main barbie and making the world yellow or some shit). True to the IP(been different color barbies for years now and my daughters have some).
What is this about? @Helico-pterFunk can you answer? Are they're worried about a poster or is there something more in the movie.Kuwait and Lebanon to ban Barbie over gender and sexuality
Lebanon's culture minister says the summer blockbuster "promotes sexual deviance and transsexuality."
By Jessica WangAugust 10, 2023 at 12:36 PM EDT
Barbie was set to cruise into the Middle East in her pink convertible this week, but the doll's hit some roadblocks en route to Kuwait and Lebanon.
Kuwait announced that Barbie has been banned late Wednesday, stating that the summer blockbuster from director Greta Gerwig promotes "ideas and beliefs that are alien to the Kuwaiti society and public order," without further elaboration, per the Associated Press.
Authorities in Lebanon have also moved to ban the film after delaying its release to late August. Culture Minister Mohammad Mortada said it contradicts "moral and religious values as well as the principles of Lebanon" and "promotes homosexuality and sexual transformation." The movie also "promotes sexual deviance and transsexuality," the minister said.
Margot Robbie and Ryan Gosling in 'Barbie'
| CREDIT: WARNER BROS. PICTURES
The bans come amid heightened anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric by politicians and officials in the country and surrounding regions in the Middle East, many of which consider homosexuality sinful. Hassan Nasrallah, leader of political party and militant group Hezbollah in Lebanon, appeared to call for anti-gay violence last month, calling the LGBTQ+ community a "threat to society" and inciting harassment and death threats against the community.
Led by Margot Robbie and Ryan Gosling, Barbie does not feature any overt sexuality, though the star-studded cast includes folks from the LGBTQ+ community, including Kate McKinnon, Hari Nef, Alexandra Shipp, and Scott Evans. The film recently crossed the $1 billion mark at the box office, making Gerwig the first solo female director to race past the threshold.
Another summer blockbuster, Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse, was similarly pulled from theaters across the Middle East last month, reportedly over a scene that included a poster featuring the transgender flag in the background.
What is this about? @Helico-pterFunk can you answer? Are they're worried about a poster or is there something more in the movie.