Netflix: Stranger Things Official Season 4 Discussion (Drops 4/28/22) (Season 4 Vol2 Trailer 6/21/2022)

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OOOOOOOOOOOh.

Now its all starting to add up.
 

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Yooooo I can’t believe how good this is so far. I had no idea how they could continue this but this shit is mad violent and crazy.




Checked out the 1st episode yesterday and enjoyed it.


With the series having been off the air for a few years, do you think the longer running time per episode is helping as they can pack more stuff in? More wild shit ...




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Checked out the 1st episode yesterday and enjoyed it.


With the series having been off the air for a few years, do you think the longer running time per episode is helping as they can pack more stuff in? More wild shit ...




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i think it helps….

they took a typical 13 episode season and just reduced the episode count to extend the run times and




It was the right call cause this season was fucking crazy…..

I don’t think I noticed the run time at all… sometimes I wish the shit was longer.

there’s so much shit that goes down ….. shit just feels epic now.

it also feels like a season that’s there to really set up next years final season….
 

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i think it helps….

they took a typical 13 episode season and just reduced the episode count to extend the run times and




It was the right call cause this season was fucking crazy…..

I don’t think I noticed the run time at all… sometimes I wish the shit was longer.

there’s so much shit that goes down ….. shit just feels epic now.

it also feels like a season that’s there to really set up next years final season….




Sounds good!


Glanced at a link and they noted episodes 8 and 9 in early-July have running times of 1 hr, 25 mins and 2 hours, 30 mins. That finale should be something else! And running times for episodes 1 - 7 being 1 hour, 3 mins to 1 hour, 38 mins.



With so many series being affected during COVID times, I liked how the series still felt "big scale" in the 1st episode. The gym scenes with the pep rally and game. Compared to other shows with less people and number of background characters.
 

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Breaking down all the horror references in Stranger Things season 4

From A Nightmare on Elm Street to The Ring, we found several homages to classsic horror this season.
By Randall ColburnMay 31, 2022 at 05:05 PM EDT

Warning: This article contains spoilers about Stranger Things season 4, Volume 1.
"Kids in peril" is one way to describe the Spielbergian genre joints of the '80s that so many of us grew up on — it's hard to forget the first time we basked in the glow of E.T., The Goonies, Stand By Me, Firestarter, or Poltergeist. As such, these were impactful touchstones for the early seasons of Stranger Things, in which a quartet of pop culture-obsessed pre-teens in the early '80s find themselves confronted with the kinds of horrors they're used to seeing on TV.
Now, with Stranger Things season 4, Volume 1, the kids are now teens. They're still in danger, of course, but "teens in peril" is an entirely different kind of film. Yep, we're in the land of slashers now, and while horror has always hung in the firmament of Stranger Things — the Alien and Halloween franchises, specifically — this latest batch of episodes is a new level of grisly.

Below, we've cataloged some of the horror properties and purveyors most prominently reflected in season 4 thus far.

Caleb McLaughlin as Lucas, Sadie Sink as Max, Joe Keery as Steve, Gaten Matarazzo as Dustin

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A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984)
Vecna isn't Freddy Krueger, but season 4's interdimensional baddie shares several traits with New Line's razor-fingered Dream Master. He wriggles into the subconscious, for one, culling insecurities and moments of trauma as a means of control. Like many of Freddy's victims, the teens touched with Vecna's curse see disturbing visions, warped refractions of their own lives, before meeting their fate. When cheerleader Chrissy (Grace Van Dien) is killed, it's obviously reminiscent of the death that kickstarts the franchise, in which Tina (Amanda Wyss) is lifted in the sky and carved into pieces by an invisible assailant as her horrified boyfriend watches on. Also of note is Vecna's, shall we say, chatty nature; he's the first emissary of the Upside Down to openly taunt its victims. Fingers crossed he doesn't start spewing marketing slogans.
If that all weren't enough, the Duffers cast Robert Englund, the actor behind Freddy, in the role of alleged killer Victor Creel. It's stunt casting for sure, but any heavy-handedness is leavened by Englund's creepy, absorbing performance.
Of course, Nightmare's influence extends beyond Freddy, though. Stranger Things 4 is a teen slasher that, like Nightmare, folds in a supernatural component that distinguishes it from contemporaries like Halloween and Friday the 13th.


Robert Englund as Victor Creel

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Hellraiser (1987)
Here's some assurance that Vecna won't become as goofy as Freddy eventually did: He's got way too much Pinhead DNA. Like Pinhead, Vecna used to be a human; both of their bodies were mangled into something monstrous after entering the spiritual realm. Also, Vecna's voice is as deep, ominous, and penetrative as the one Doug Bradley adopted for Pinhead. Not one for quips, that bellow.
Stephen King
The Master of Horror's shadow has stretched across Hawkins since season 1, but the Duffers are plumbing the depths of King in new ways this season. There's the focus on bullying, for one – it's cruel teenagers, lest we forget, that drive Carrie White to psychically set fire to the prom. Eleven (Millie Bobby Brown), once so indebted to Firestarter's Charlie McGee, now appears to be walking in the footsteps of Carrie. Sure, we learn in episode 7 that Eleven wasn't behind the massacre at Hawkins Lab, but that doesn't mean she won't wreak similar havoc once she's back in California.
You can see a bit of King in the Creel house, too. Like It's Neibolt Street house or the haunted manor in King and Peter Straub's Black House, the Creel household is both traditionally scary and a portal of sorts between worlds, a hotbed of psychic energy.

Erica (Priah Ferguson), Dustin (Gaten Matarazzo), and Lucas (Caleb McLaughlin) communicate with their friends in the Upside Down through a Lite-Brite

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David Lynch
Far be it from me to describe anything in Stranger Things as "Lynchian," a term that's become overused to the point of obsolescence, but there are parallels to be found in the ways electricity manifests in both the show and the works of Lynch. As far back as 1977's Eraserhead, Lynch has framed electrical currents as something that unites or bridges disparate realities and/or dimensions. It's less abstract in Stranger Things, but in this season we revisit the idea — first explored in season 1 with Will (Noah Schnapp), Joyce (Winona Ryder), and their Christmas lights — that electricity is the best way of communicating across two different dimensions.

Robin (Maya Hawke) and Nancy (Natalia Dyer) in season 4 of Netflix's 'Stranger Things'

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Silence of the Lambs (1991)
The stroll Nancy (Natalia Dyer) and Robin (Maya Hawke) take to Victor Creel's cell is heavily indebted to the asylum meeting of Clarice (Jodie Foster) and Hannibal (Anthony Hopkins) in The Silence of the Lambs.
The Dark Phoenix Saga (1980)
Though not traditional horror, X-Men's Dark Phoenix Saga is certainly horrific. It's also one of the season's more overt references, what with Eddie's Hellfire Club sharing a name with the nefarious organization in the comics that's partly responsible for turning Jean Grey into Dark Phoenix. The clear analog is Eleven, a good cosmic force that, amidst so much bullying, betrayal, and scientific manipulation, feels on the verge of turning into a destructive one.

Millie Bobby Brown's Eleven unleashes in 'Stranger Things' season 4.

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The Gate (1987)
One of the most thrilling moments in these episodes comes when Steve (Joe Keery) climbs through a "snack-sized" gate at the bottom of Lovers' Lake. The notion (and design) of these interdimensional gates — and the creatures that lay beyond them — brings to mind Tibor Takács 1987 cult classic, which, like Stranger Things, focuses on some precocious kids and their teenage siblings.
The Ring (2002)
The Duffers draw primarily from the iconographic genre of the '70s and '80s for Stranger Things, which makes sense for a show so evocative of Amblin-style suburbs. Occasionally, though, a more modern influence will weave its way into the fabric of the show. Take The Ring, Gore Verbinski's enduring 2002 remake of the Hideo Nakata classic, which manifests here both narratively and stylistically. There's nothing so clear-cut as a haunted VHS tape this season, but Vecna's curse, much like Samara's, has a lifespan of about a week, which is just the kind of motivation our characters need to figure this thing out fast. Also, just look at the twisted, open-mouthed scream forever fixed on the broken faces of Vecna's victims. It's hard to see it and not think of The Ring's most terrifying jump cut.

 

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For me Season 4 has been the best one since Season 1. I don't think any season can be better than Season 1 because it had the element of surprise where you didn't know wtf was going on the whole time. Plus the fact that they were kids gives the show more of an authentic feel to it, which makes the series harder to write. The writer couldn't just add cursing, violence and forced shock value to make it interesting. He actually had to write. The directing was great too. The first season connection between Will and his older brother with the "Should I Stay or Should I Go" song, and with everything else that was going on was well-executed. I remember being speechless a few times. It was a sci-fi that felt real. The only thing I didn't like about the first season was that they made the black kid "the angry black man" stereotype. He was annoying af the whole first season but they made up for it in the second one.
 
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I'm still not understanding how the dude from the lab is Vecna if he's supposed to be the hnic of the upside down. Which is who knows how old? Was the boy just Vecna manifesting himself in human form? Vecna has the 001 tattoo at the end, which he didn't get until Papa started working with him. So, are they in some kind of time paradox?

One last thing, when they show closeups of Nancy's face, am I the only one that thinks her skin looks rinkly as hell? Like she's been exposed to toi much uv rays. I know she always looked malnourished, but it seems worse this season.
 

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I'm still not understanding how the dude from the lab is Vecna if he's supposed to be the hnic of the upside down. Which is who knows how old?

So what I got from it was the Vecna is not the HNIC. The kid explaining the most stuff stated if the Demogorgon (season 1 creature)[I think he named that one as oppose to the mind slayer (season 3 creature)] is a regular soldier than Venca is a high ranking General. So there is likely some other source in the upside down wanting to take over this side of the world.
 

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I liked this season, don't love it though. I think I'm just losing interest in the kids. None of them have really grown, except for Lucas. It's the same old shit almost.

I kind of like last season better to be honest. I like the longer episodes, but not a fan of the Russia shit. I feel like that's dragging this season down.
 
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