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largebillsonlyplease

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When I think MJ I only think fadeaway... and 2 dribbles, stop and pop... I have NEVER thought of step back and MJ in the same thought

And I don't recall saying Harden invented the step back, I simply said he's the one that shoots it CONSISTENTLY and before him, it was not being done at the frequency which it is now

But it was. and that's ok if its step back 3 point shot then yes he is the first one to do that shot consistently.
step back jumper. no.
 

largebillsonlyplease

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:lol:

I googled Steph’s step back because he’s been doing it for years and the question who created it was a result.

And I clicked, and that vid was there. I was shocked to say the least.

Understandable. It was a part of his game but not the highlighted part of his game
which just lets you know how good dude was that he has minutes and minutes of footage of him doing a thing that someone else is claiming ownership over and it's not even a footnote in his game lol

And that's no dissing to any player. but the step back is a part of basketball and more than a few people made a living doing it.
step back 3's are a new thing and harden is at the forefront of that.
 

REDLINE

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Understandable. It was a part of his game but not the highlighted part of his game
which just lets you know how good dude was that he has minutes and minutes of footage of him doing a thing that someone else is claiming ownership over and it's not even a footnote in his game lol

And that's no dissing to any player. but the step back is a part of basketball and more than a few people made a living doing it.
step back 3's are a new thing and harden is at the forefront of that.

Agreed
 

playahaitian

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Day_Carver

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Agreed and yes he’s “Supposed” to use his athletic ability. But in the past when watching, his skill level was very low and I mentioned it. Toronto displayed that in the playoffs last year.

But he’s improved and is improving, Harden was talking shit back like he was supposed to.

There’s no true rivalries anymore so it’s hard to get players to truly dislike each other.
I think what Toronto showed is Milwaukee doesn't have enough to beat the best. You need at least 3 big time ballers to win consistently in the NBA; to win championships..or 2 players that are playing out of their minds. Milwaukee doesn't have that and I think they will falter again. Nobody's game is perfect. He just needs the right players playing with him.....
 

Llano

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I think what Toronto showed is Milwaukee doesn't have enough to beat the best. You need at least 3 big time ballers to win consistently in the NBA; to win championships..or 2 players that are playing out of their minds. Milwaukee doesn't have that and I think they will falter again. Nobody's game is perfect. He just needs the right players playing with him.....

Middleton will have to step up but I don't see Middleton as a sidekick who can take over a game if need be like other sidekicks have done in the past.
 

spider705

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Some of those Jordan shots are what I addressed, stop and pop... but he did do it and the videos prove it... just when you think Jordan a step back doesn't come to mind. You go ask 100 people what shot Jordan is known for and they'll say fadeaway. Remember Jay Z on Hola Hovito


"MJ, him J, fadeaway perfect"
 

Day_Carver

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Middleton will have to step up but I don't see Middleton as a sidekick who can take over a game if need be like other sidekicks have done in the past.
Middleton should be the 3rd player not the 2nd to me. Hes not big time enough to be 2nd. So that's why I think they can only go so far. And that's why I think G will leave.....
 

ansatsusha_gouki

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Great game by him tonight fuck anyone who shits on this dude. He's a legit good player.

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I can't wait til he gets better because it makes no sense than a guard that can drop 20 points a night get ignore by basketball fans and the media....Especially,when he has a better three-point percentage than Luka and Trae,so far in their career.













Spike been calling for a legit full rebuild for at least a decade. And it's not like he's wrong. The Knicks ain't attracting a big time free agent. Dolan needs to let that pipe dream go and except facts. A full rebuild is the only way to go.


I'm starting to think it just that the media is biased against anything coming out of Cleveland. For anyone who actually watches the games, you know that Sexton is the best thing they got going right now.



It stems from this article the local newspaper reported last season about veterans on the team saying he can't play...Tristan,Love and probably Brandon McKnight(the rumored players)

Tristan mostly backed off but had a few issues with Collin this season but the main culprit is Love...imo

They talked about it on the Jump last season,a few days after the article was posted.




The faster this team gets rid of Mr. Talc the better because he's toxic..

With, the fans they don't view him as a boxoffice player like a Morant,Zion,Trae,Luka and all these other players. Hell,he's not the flashiest player on the team. The fans gravitate towards Garland and Porter because they do alot of highlight plays and Sexton doesn't.

To,me I would have thought the fans would embrace Sexton because he plays a chip on his shoulder and plays extremely hard on every play. Sure,he messes up but he learns from his mistakes and tries to get better.

I've never seen a player get so scrutinized in his second year,especially when he's on his fourth coach in his very short career...Not,even Kyrie went through this with the fans.

Lastly,alot of fans wanted Shai Gilgeous-Alexander but he told the organization not to come to his workout before the draft...Still,til this day they still bitching about the pick.

What's funny,Sexton is playing better than SGA...imo..but you can't tell morons anything..

I do find it fucked up that a player that can drop 20 pts a night cant get any love in the national media. He had better numbers than most of the players in his draft and the rookies this year but gets criticized by basketball fans. The only two players that scored more points than Sexton are Trae and Luka. He has a better three-point percentage than those two.
 

4 Dimensional

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I think what Toronto showed is Milwaukee doesn't have enough to beat the best. You need at least 3 big time ballers to win consistently in the NBA; to win championships..or 2 players that are playing out of their minds. Milwaukee doesn't have that and I think they will falter again. Nobody's game is perfect. He just needs the right players playing with him.....

He ain’t going to Golden State.

I see what y’all are doing. :hmm:
 

M.H.C.

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I can't wait til he gets better because it makes no sense than a guard that can drop 20 points a night get ignore by basketball fans and the media....Especially,when he has a better three-point percentage than Luka and Trae,so far in their career.

















It stems from this article the local newspaper reported last season about veterans on the team saying he can't play...Tristan,Love and probably Brandon McKnight(the rumored players)

Tristan mostly backed off but had a few issues with Collin this season but the main culprit is Love...imo

They talked about it on the Jump last season,a few days after the article was posted.




The faster this team gets rid of Mr. Talc the better because he's toxic..

With, the fans they don't view him as a boxoffice player like a Morant,Zion,Trae,Luka and all these other players. Hell,he's not the flashiest player on the team. The fans gravitate towards Garland and Porter because they do alot of highlight plays and Sexton doesn't.

To,me I would have thought the fans would embrace Sexton because he plays a chip on his shoulder and plays extremely hard on every play. Sure,he messes up but he learns from his mistakes and tries to get better.

I've never seen a player get so scrutinized in his second year,especially when he's on his fourth coach in his very short career...Not,even Kyrie went through this with the fans.

Lastly,alot of fans wanted Shai Gilgeous-Alexander but he told the organization not to come to his workout before the draft...Still,til this day they still bitching about the pick.

What's funny,Sexton is playing better than SGA...imo..but you can't tell morons anything..

I do find it fucked up that a player that can drop 20 pts a night cant get any love in the national media. He had better numbers than most of the players in his draft and the rookies this year but gets criticized by basketball fans. The only two players that scored more points than Sexton are Trae and Luka. He has a better three-point percentage than those two.


What.....in......thee.........fuck. Kevin Love about to outlast every coach and even teammates that are better than him. Amazing...
 

Day_Carver

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Yes, you are. You ain’t got to bullshit me, fam.

We know there are only a handful of CONTENDING teams that can afford him.

I’m already mad at some shit that ain’t happened yet. Lol
Well fam I'm just saying :giggle: if they flame out especially before the finals; his agent already said he probably will keep his options open. Mofos think he only does one thing now; if he goes to ........he gonna be dunking a lot more :giggle:
 

4 Dimensional

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Well fam I'm just saying :giggle: if they flame out especially before the finals; his agent already said he probably will keep his options open. Mofos think he only does one thing now; if he goes to ........he gonna be dunking a lot more :giggle:

Lol. Hell yeah. Dunks everywhere. I still don’t think he’ll be a better fit than KD, but it’s still a hell of a come up.

He should definitely keep his options open.
 

Day_Carver

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Lol. Hell yeah. Dunks everywhere. I still don’t think he’ll be a better fit than KD, but it’s still a hell of a come up.

He should definitely keep his options open.
KD was a perfect fit in every since of the word except probably emotionally; but that nigga weird. But from an inside out type of game with the way GS is designed, G would be dam near perfect or close to it; plus he would definitely fit better emotionally....
 

4 Dimensional

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KD was a perfect fit in every since of the word except probably emotionally; but that nigga weird. But from an inside out type of game with the way GS is designed, G would be dam near perfect or close to it; plus he would definitely fit better emotionally....

Weird as hell. GS don’t even really need to use Giannis the same way. They would be a significantly different team because of his ability to beast inside the paint.

I’ll be interested to see how Steph and Klay comeback though. That’s most important.
 

ansatsusha_gouki

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What.....in......thee.........fuck. Kevin Love about to outlast every coach and even teammates that are better than him. Amazing...

JR questioned the direction of the organization and that got him sent home for the rest of the season, Meanwhile,Mr Talc done ran two coaches out of town,threw the new coach under the bus publicly, threw a god dayum temper tantrum during a game, wont defend(it's bad enough, he cant defend but now he won't even do that),act like he's the best player on the team but they wont sent him home.

I don't care,if they need to ask for 4 or 5 second rounders for him but he leave the team....
 

Day_Carver

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Weird as hell. GS don’t even really need to use Giannis the same way. They would be a significantly different team because of his ability to beast inside the paint.

I’ll be interested to see how Steph and Klay comeback though. That’s most important.
Nah they dont. He would get so many open lanes because of Klay and Steph, it would be stupid. But I think he would be devastating more on defense. Him and green and klay that shit would be crazy. He wouldn't have to spend no energy at all; just like KD. KD was so good on defense for them. People forget that. And G plays very good defense. All this talk about his offense but people forget hes an excellent defensive player. Klay will be klay by middle of next year. Personally I don't think steph injury was that bad. I just think GS was being extra cautious.....
 
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