{~}Official 2023/2024 NBA Thread - 2024 Summer League, USA Hoops

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TooTrilla

Mil Town Legend
BGOL Investor
That was my hesitancy... He's crossing the ten year mark this year, which I think is about the minimum length of service required for this, and we aren't sure he'll stay there. If he demands a trade this offseason and leaves with one title, I don't think it really makes sense. Especially is he goes on to win more titles elsewhere... I see a statue as saying "This is a franchise-defining player/group."

Giannis is just 29. Too much yet to be determined.
He just signed another contact last year...how the fuck is he demanding a trade this offseason...and why would he after we got Dame?
:hmm:
 

Duece

Rising Star
BGOL Investor

ESPN is already pushing narratives about Victor Wembanyama’s Spurs future​

"I don't know how patient he's going to be."

As the NBA enters the final stretch of its regular season, one of the most intriguing storylines has been the emergence of Victor Wembanyama.

After beginning the season as a general curiosity on an uncompetitive team, the No. 1 pick of the 2024 NBA Draft has transformed into must-watch television — especially when he’s facing a fellow “unicorn” such as Giannis Antetokounmpo.

The only problem? Laying claim to a Western Conference-worst 13-48 record, the San Antonio Spurs very much remain uncompetitive. So much so that ESPN’s NBA Today spent a segment of Monday’s show speculating about Wembanyama’s future in San Antonio.

“I don’t want to hear that word anymore: timeline. Patience,” Ramona Shelburne said before recalling that the Spurs declined to pursue Damian Lillard last offseason because they weren’t ready to compete. “Victor is here. Victor is ready to win. I know that they have this idea that they’re going to take two or three years and find the right core and have them on the same timeline, but I don’t know how patient he’s going to be… how long do you give him, Malika? A year? Two?”


“A year, max,” host Malika Andrews replied emphatically.

After panelist Danny Green — a former Spurs player — pointed out that it will ultimately be head coach Gregg Popovich who dictates the team’s offseason approach, Kendrick Perkins disagreed.

“Victor don’t have to be patient… he’s the greatest prospect ever,” the former NBA center said. “For the first time, the pressure is on Gregg Popovich and the San Antonio Spurs. They better get the pieces around him… he’s about winning now. He’s not trying to lose.”

All things considered, this was a fairly bizarre segment.


It’s important to note that Wembanyama has been a member of the Spurs’ roster for a grand total of 61 regular-season games. And while the 7-foot-4 center’s expedited progress does raise questions about San Antonio’s future moving forward, it’s incredibly premature to frame it as him running out of patience or being dissatisfied with the Spurs’ approach.

While Andrews, Shelburne, and Perkins didn’t say it explicitly, the implication that Wembanyama could become disgruntled in San Antonio was there. But while there are certainly several examples of unhappy NBA players asking for or demanding trades, there aren’t any notable examples of a player doing so while still on his rookie contract.

In fact, the NBA rookie scale largely prevents such scenarios from occurring. Ultimately, NBA teams have enough leverage to keep players through their rookie contracts and sign them to their first extensions — which for Wembanyama is still years away from happening.

Maybe he’ll buck that trend and become the first star player to request a trade while on his rookie deal. But again, there’s not even the slightest indication he’s even disgruntled at this point, let alone that he will be in the future.

NBA fans often complain about player movement being such a primary topic of the league’s coverage, even though the data suggests that such drama is exactly what they want (just ask JJ Redick). But while wondering what LeBron James might do next summer or whether Donovan Mitchell will sign an extension in Cleveland are legitimate questions with consequences that affect the current state of the league, any speculation regarding Wembanyama’s future in San Antonio at this point simply isn’t rooted in reality.

A few years ago, there was some speculation Luka Doncic would become the first star player to forego his rookie scale extension in hopes of forcing his way to another team. Ultimately, Doncic did what every star player before him has done and signed a massive extension with the Dallas Mavericks as soon as he could.


It’s a safe bet that Wembanyama will do the same with the Spurs. And even if he makes the unprecedented decision not to, that’s still a conversation that should be years away from happening.
 

therealjondoe

Rising Star
BGOL Investor

ESPN is already pushing narratives about Victor Wembanyama’s Spurs future​



As the NBA enters the final stretch of its regular season, one of the most intriguing storylines has been the emergence of Victor Wembanyama.

After beginning the season as a general curiosity on an uncompetitive team, the No. 1 pick of the 2024 NBA Draft has transformed into must-watch television — especially when he’s facing a fellow “unicorn” such as Giannis Antetokounmpo.

The only problem? Laying claim to a Western Conference-worst 13-48 record, the San Antonio Spurs very much remain uncompetitive. So much so that ESPN’s NBA Today spent a segment of Monday’s show speculating about Wembanyama’s future in San Antonio.

“I don’t want to hear that word anymore: timeline. Patience,” Ramona Shelburne said before recalling that the Spurs declined to pursue Damian Lillard last offseason because they weren’t ready to compete. “Victor is here. Victor is ready to win. I know that they have this idea that they’re going to take two or three years and find the right core and have them on the same timeline, but I don’t know how patient he’s going to be… how long do you give him, Malika? A year? Two?”


“A year, max,” host Malika Andrews replied emphatically.

After panelist Danny Green — a former Spurs player — pointed out that it will ultimately be head coach Gregg Popovich who dictates the team’s offseason approach, Kendrick Perkins disagreed.

“Victor don’t have to be patient… he’s the greatest prospect ever,” the former NBA center said. “For the first time, the pressure is on Gregg Popovich and the San Antonio Spurs. They better get the pieces around him… he’s about winning now. He’s not trying to lose.”

All things considered, this was a fairly bizarre segment.


It’s important to note that Wembanyama has been a member of the Spurs’ roster for a grand total of 61 regular-season games. And while the 7-foot-4 center’s expedited progress does raise questions about San Antonio’s future moving forward, it’s incredibly premature to frame it as him running out of patience or being dissatisfied with the Spurs’ approach.

While Andrews, Shelburne, and Perkins didn’t say it explicitly, the implication that Wembanyama could become disgruntled in San Antonio was there. But while there are certainly several examples of unhappy NBA players asking for or demanding trades, there aren’t any notable examples of a player doing so while still on his rookie contract.

In fact, the NBA rookie scale largely prevents such scenarios from occurring. Ultimately, NBA teams have enough leverage to keep players through their rookie contracts and sign them to their first extensions — which for Wembanyama is still years away from happening.

Maybe he’ll buck that trend and become the first star player to request a trade while on his rookie deal. But again, there’s not even the slightest indication he’s even disgruntled at this point, let alone that he will be in the future.

NBA fans often complain about player movement being such a primary topic of the league’s coverage, even though the data suggests that such drama is exactly what they want (just ask JJ Redick). But while wondering what LeBron James might do next summer or whether Donovan Mitchell will sign an extension in Cleveland are legitimate questions with consequences that affect the current state of the league, any speculation regarding Wembanyama’s future in San Antonio at this point simply isn’t rooted in reality.

A few years ago, there was some speculation Luka Doncic would become the first star player to forego his rookie scale extension in hopes of forcing his way to another team. Ultimately, Doncic did what every star player before him has done and signed a massive extension with the Dallas Mavericks as soon as he could.


It’s a safe bet that Wembanyama will do the same with the Spurs. And even if he makes the unprecedented decision not to, that’s still a conversation that should be years away from happening.
The nba talking heads suck as usual
 

ansatsusha_gouki

Land of the Heartless
Platinum Member




fuck-boston-boston.gif
 

Amajorfucup

Rising Star
Platinum Member
Negro, I just googled and Kareem has ZERO dpoy awards...not even in LA...
My bad. i was going off memory and didnt check that. I thought he won 2 DPOY awards. He was ROY tho.. another award Yannis didnt get. Kareem averaged 30 15 5 in 7 seasons.

Kareem>>>
 

Costanza

Rising Star
Registered
He just signed another contact last year...how the fuck is he demanding a trade this offseason...and why would he after we got Dame?
:hmm:

Don't you :hmm: me. I didn't realize I was talking to the resident Bucks fan here...

1) I didn't say it was likely he would demand a trade-- the point was that he has just now put in ten years and we don't know how long he'll be there.

2) Giannis still hasn't ruled it out and if y'all lose in the first round again in a couple of months, "Will Giannis demand a trade" is going to be the top story on First Take and every show that covers the NBA the next day.

3) I think what's most likely is you get two years with him and then he upgrades from Dame to Steph-- You'll be burning his old jersey while I'm buying his new one. Bet you won't be talking about a statue then. :hmm::hmm::hmm:
 

Complex

Internet Superstar
BGOL Investor

ESPN is already pushing narratives about Victor Wembanyama’s Spurs future​



As the NBA enters the final stretch of its regular season, one of the most intriguing storylines has been the emergence of Victor Wembanyama.

After beginning the season as a general curiosity on an uncompetitive team, the No. 1 pick of the 2024 NBA Draft has transformed into must-watch television — especially when he’s facing a fellow “unicorn” such as Giannis Antetokounmpo.

The only problem? Laying claim to a Western Conference-worst 13-48 record, the San Antonio Spurs very much remain uncompetitive. So much so that ESPN’s NBA Today spent a segment of Monday’s show speculating about Wembanyama’s future in San Antonio.

“I don’t want to hear that word anymore: timeline. Patience,” Ramona Shelburne said before recalling that the Spurs declined to pursue Damian Lillard last offseason because they weren’t ready to compete. “Victor is here. Victor is ready to win. I know that they have this idea that they’re going to take two or three years and find the right core and have them on the same timeline, but I don’t know how patient he’s going to be… how long do you give him, Malika? A year? Two?”

“A year, max,” host Malika Andrews replied emphatically.


After panelist Danny Green — a former Spurs player — pointed out that it will ultimately be head coach Gregg Popovich who dictates the team’s offseason approach, Kendrick Perkins disagreed.

“Victor don’t have to be patient… he’s the greatest prospect ever,” the former NBA center said. “For the first time, the pressure is on Gregg Popovich and the San Antonio Spurs. They better get the pieces around him… he’s about winning now. He’s not trying to lose.”

All things considered, this was a fairly bizarre segment.


It’s important to note that Wembanyama has been a member of the Spurs’ roster for a grand total of 61 regular-season games. And while the 7-foot-4 center’s expedited progress does raise questions about San Antonio’s future moving forward, it’s incredibly premature to frame it as him running out of patience or being dissatisfied with the Spurs’ approach.

While Andrews, Shelburne, and Perkins didn’t say it explicitly, the implication that Wembanyama could become disgruntled in San Antonio was there. But while there are certainly several examples of unhappy NBA players asking for or demanding trades, there aren’t any notable examples of a player doing so while still on his rookie contract.

In fact, the NBA rookie scale largely prevents such scenarios from occurring. Ultimately, NBA teams have enough leverage to keep players through their rookie contracts and sign them to their first extensions — which for Wembanyama is still years away from happening.

Maybe he’ll buck that trend and become the first star player to request a trade while on his rookie deal. But again, there’s not even the slightest indication he’s even disgruntled at this point, let alone that he will be in the future.

NBA fans often complain about player movement being such a primary topic of the league’s coverage, even though the data suggests that such drama is exactly what they want (just ask JJ Redick). But while wondering what LeBron James might do next summer or whether Donovan Mitchell will sign an extension in Cleveland are legitimate questions with consequences that affect the current state of the league, any speculation regarding Wembanyama’s future in San Antonio at this point simply isn’t rooted in reality.

A few years ago, there was some speculation Luka Doncic would become the first star player to forego his rookie scale extension in hopes of forcing his way to another team. Ultimately, Doncic did what every star player before him has done and signed a massive extension with the Dallas Mavericks as soon as he could.


It’s a safe bet that Wembanyama will do the same with the Spurs. And even if he makes the unprecedented decision not to, that’s still a conversation that should be years away from happening.

Perk is an idiot
 

TooTrilla

Mil Town Legend
BGOL Investor
Don't you :hmm: me. I didn't realize I was talking to the resident Bucks fan here...

1) I didn't say it was likely he would demand a trade-- the point was that he has just now put in ten years and we don't know how long he'll be there.

2) Giannis still hasn't ruled it out and if y'all lose in the first round again in a couple of months, "Will Giannis demand a trade" is going to be the top story on First Take and every show that covers the NBA the next day.

3) I think what's most likely is you get two years with him and then he upgrades from Dame to Steph-- You'll be burning his old jersey while I'm buying his new one. Bet you won't be talking about a statue then. :hmm::hmm::hmm:
Yall fools been talking that Giannis is leaving shit for years. Even before the chip... so just stop it. He aint going nowhere. Giannis puts pressure on the Bucks organization and his team by talking that shit. And it works. Yeah, I'm so sure he's gonna upgrade to the Golden State Warriors and them bums can't even make it out the west anymore.:roflmao:
 

Costanza

Rising Star
Registered
@TooTrilla -- Funny coincidence, Giannis is visiting his next hometown to play against his future team tomorrow.



(Given the beatdown the Warriors suffered against Boston, I assume this headline is using slang, saying hot as in "oh, he's heated")
 

KingTaharqa

Greatest Of All Time
BGOL Investor
IMA have to leave this thread alone....


nikkas in here saying that giannis is better than kareem....

you nikkas are wild

As a Buck, he is. He's surpassed him on that franchise and is the best player in that team's history. Kareem played on the Bucks before the merger and forced his way out of there. Giannis legacy trumps his.


BGOL thinks the Heat and the Lakers aren't gonna build statues for the games greatest player, scorer, and biggest draw. The Heat hung jerseys for Dan Marino and Michael Jordan that never played for them, but giving their only 2x Finals MVP and league MVP in a bball legacy with very little all NBA history or great all time players, would be out of the question. :lol: Jeannie Buss literally sucks LeBron's nuts and is about to give him his 3rd max extension as a Laker and sign his son, but a statue 10 years from now when the Lakers are searching for relevancy, no way she honors this period that featured a championship and the all time scoring record being broken. :lol: Bron haters lack vision and have 0 understanding of history.

LeBron is going to have 3 statues and 4 jerseys retired (2 with Lakers). And all 3 franchises he played for won't act too good to monetize his legacy after he retires. His brand is a cash cow and internationally respected and his body of work on every team he's played for is legendary. It's a no brainer.
 
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