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I agree this guy is indeed a bum, but whatever. Ward will be in a great bout come November, so I can't totally fault him for a few one-sided tune up fights.
So Ward went 12 rounds with a 40 year old tomato can and couldn't close the show or look supremely impressive against him. Curious to see how the boxing heads here will spin this fight.... 
So Ward went 12 rounds with a 40 year old tomato can and couldn't close the show or look supremely impressive against him. Curious to see how the boxing heads here will spin this fight....
Spin what? It was your typical Ward fight.
I can... because if this was GGG, or Kovalev, etc. people would be bitching about their competition. I was good for him doing this in his first couple of fights in his comeback, but this is his what, 4th or 5th fight?!?! Double standard here man. There is no way in hell he should be fighting bums like this guy at this level of his career... I look at fighters he's rated higher than in the PFP ratings, Crawford, etc. fighters who are fighting competition and looking amazingly impressive, yet Ward keeps getting a pass for fighting Bums.
How much longer will he be given a pass and riding the coat tails of wins years ago against Froch and a Dawson who came down in weight to fight him?!?!
Thats actually my point and my issue. If this was any other fighter, especially GGG, there would have been pages of bitching about the bum they are fighting or they couldn't even knock him out or look impressive, yet Ward gets passes with the 'Tune Up' fight nonsense. Dude has been tuning up for almost 2 years now. There are a lot more fighters he could have fought besides this bum...
Try 3rd fight. Ward hasn't been completely healthy, so there have been layoffs/recovery periods.
LOL @ you trying to compare Ward fighting tuneups to GGG who has made a CAREER off fighting tuneups. Anyhow, I've agreed that this was a meaningless fight, but at least there's a potentially great fight on the horizon...Can't say that about GGG.
I'm not clowning Ward, Love him and think he is an amazing fighter. Talking about double standard here. Again, this fight tonight was an embarrassment and a waste of time. Outside of Froch and a drained Dawson, who has Ward really beat? Hes a beast, but its not like his record is littered with HOF boxers either Bruh. Him and Kovalev need each other...
There is no double standard. Ward moved up and has agreed to fight the best. He took 1 garbage fight beforehand (Barrera looked to be a good scrap on paper.)
GGG is fighting a 147lb guy. There is no comparison.
You guys know that he's fighting Kovalev in November. Who did you expect him to fight?
That fight in Nivember is going to be epic. IfWard can win, especially by KO, he will take Floyds crown.
That fight in Nivember is going to be epic. IfWard can win, especially by KO, he will take Floyds crown.
Maybe, but all Ward had to was win. It didn't matter how he looked in doing so.
Win, and move on to the superfight in November.
Floyd's crown as what? Floyd's retired, so he's not the #1 p4p guy anymore.
next fight... there is a comparison prior though... The same way Ward has had issues getting people to fight him in his weight class so has GGG. So... you're right, there is a double standard. Fight 3 straight bums... only 2 'name' wins in your entire career... top 3 PFP... Double standard like a motherfucker
Whether he could or couldn't is opinion... He DIDN'T so that's a FACT!! But hey, whatever fits the double standard narrative...
Ward cleaned out 168 and moved up to fight the best.
GGG is content w/ fighting bums and calling out/fighting 147 fighters.
How can GGG clean out his division when no one in his division will fight him? ...and the only reason Ward is fighting Kovalev is because HE was calling about a smaller guy to fight him so don't act like Kovalev was his first choice bruh... Stop it!!!!
But hey, Ward beat a murderers row of fighters at 168 so what the hell do am I talking about...
Like I said big guy, whatever fits your narrative... Work it to the max bruh...
Nope. Hence w/ you didn't see me mention it.
Didn't mention it tonight, but I'm more than sure you and the other brothers were on here talking about how bad he looked at the time of his fight though... Thats the usual slanted rhetoric here anyway so I'm surprised...
Just like your contention about Ward fighting Kovalev, when his FIRST priority was trying to bait the smaller GGG to come up in weigh to fight him.... But to hear everyone tell it, he's had Kovalev on his radar from day one of his comeback...
Whether he could or couldn't is opinion... He DIDN'T so that's a FACT!! But hey, whatever fits the double standard narrative...
But the announcers said that he SHOULD and questioned why he DIDN'T.
Please, pull up my post about me commenting on the Kovalev vs Chilemba fight. I guarantee you won't find a post from me about it.
Please stop w/ this drivel. You and I both know that it was GGG who called out all fighters from 154 -168. Ward responded, and GGG made excuses and stipulations.
Their opinions as well.. The FACT still remains... he didn't
Ok.... Like I said, Ward did NOT call out Kovalev first, but was more than ready to do with GGG what you are bitching about GGG doing with Brook... But because of the obvious bias here, it was cool for Ward to fight a smaller fighter if GGG had taken the fight, but Brook took the fight but NOW its an issue to fight a smaller fighter...
Ward continuously fights bums, they are tune up fights... anybody else who doesn't fit the narrative, they are fighting bums... A lot of plea coppin for this Dudes bum of the month tour, even the Commentators struggled to try to sell this bullshit tonight...
SSDD here on BGOL bruh...
Your shtick is retarded. There is no bias/agenda/double standard here.
GGG called out ALL 168lb guys. Ward didn't issue any challenges to guys 160 and below.
When it became clear that GGG wasn't ready to back up his words, Ward moved on.
Normal BGOL nonsense too... I don't agree with you, so you have to digress back to 3rd grade? You can't be that mentally weak and insecure Bruh.
Find ONE post where I attacked you personally?! So, because I don't agree with the BGOL experts its a shtick? Really difficult to have a discussion with the insecure smartest guy in the room types here. A real pathetic trait to have really, but its obviously very prevalent here...
Have a good night lil Fella....
All I cared was that he won to set up the fight. It's HBO's job to grade his performance and hype up his next fight. THEY questioned why Ward didn't knock Brand out.
No doubt... Hoping for a great fight. I was just pointing out the double standard here is all. Dude tonight was a bum and a disgrace and damn near 40 years old and Ward has been getting by unscathed for damn near two years fighting bums like this whereas if it was a 'different' type of fighter, it would be a problem to fight such bums is all...
The fact that THEY questioned why he wasn't more dominant actually validates my point, especially with how they struggled to even sell this bullshit tonight...
Normal BGOL nonsense too... I don't agree with you, so you have to digress back to 3rd grade? You can't be that mentally weak and insecure Bruh.
Find ONE post where I attacked you personally?! So, because I don't agree with the BGOL experts its a shtick? Really difficult to have a discussion with the insecure smartest guy in the room types here. A real pathetic trait to have really, but its obviously very prevalent here...
Have a good night lil Fella....
Your routine is retarded. I didn't you call you retarded.
If you're offended, then that's on you.
Now I have a routine... again because I don't agree with your point of view!?!?!? So because the 'smartest guy in the room' people like you have an issue if someone doesn't fall in line with your view points, its labeled a 'routine'? You guys insecurities are hilarious...
...and no, I'm actually not offended. I also don't get defensive and insecure when someone disagrees with my view point. I'm a little too secure for that Bruh...
I laugh at people like you with that weak ass insecurity trait! Its actually quite pathetic...
jim lampley said to hopkins,"benard ,with all due respect, there were times that you were in control of the fight and i thought you should of finish your opponent and you didn't. " benard replied with " you're right".
I remember several years ago after a fight, Max Kellerman asked Stevenson about fighting Kovalev, and Stevenson said people were more interested in seeing him fight Bernard Hopkins or Carl Froch, he was then booed by the crowd. Stevenson has shown absolutely no interest in fighting Kovalev. The purse bid stuff is about network control and promoter issues, has nothing to do with Kovalev not wanting to fight Stevenson.
The routine is you carrying on like there is some agenda/double standard. You've mentioned it incessantly throughout the last few pages.
Anyhow, I'm still waiting on you to find that post that you're "sure" I made regarding Kovalev's last fight.