Absolutely. I would love to see him against a Garcia more the Rigo tho. More exciting fight in my opinion. I think Crawford is too big for him, and I would favor Crawford against anyone 40-47
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He still didn't throw the volume that Lomenchenko does. If he didn't need too cool. Never said Lomachenko was a harder puncher. I just am more impressed with his defensive genius while throwing so many punches and stalking than if he just stood in the pocket and pot shotted
Rigo is my guy, but I think the window has closed on this fight. I desperately wanted to see them fight 3 or 4 years ago, but now that Rigo is basically 37 y/o?
Nah, a win over him won't mean a whole lot.
It's already been said that we're talking about the younger version of Mayweather. The standing his ground, catch/shoot, shoulder roll didn't come into heavy play until Roger took over.
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I feel you, but he still wasn't as aggressive or threw as many punches tho. He sat down more on his punches and knocked more Dudes out (the Corrales fight was one of the best performances I've ever seen) but Lomachenkos just goes harder while being such a defensive wiz.
Damn... didn't know he was that old?!?!
These are the fights that stand out in my mind Genaro Hernandez, Justin Juuko, Phil N'dou, Corrales (obviously), Mitchell (Ninja already mentioned this one,) and lastly the Canelo fight.
Floyd was making guys miss all the while loading up on his own shots and throwing bombs...minus the Canelo fight. Floyd wasn't going to seriously hurt him and he knew it.
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Respect!
I don't think Conor can stand up to the punishment Gatti took
Yeah the "Money" era ruined a lot of people's views of Floyd. Pretty Boy went after knockouts while not getting touched. If Floyds hands never broke down he would probably be the consensus GOAT.
I can't take Crawford over Spence at 47.
It bothers me when people cite: runner, boring, fights too negative as the reasons they dislike Floyd. For me, it either it shows their youth or they really aren't fans of the sport.
Money and PBF were night and day as fighters. PBF was pretty much EVERYTHING that casual boxing fans and UFC fans eat up.
The higher weight classes and hand injuries (like you said) forced him to change his style. If it weren't those...man...I don't know if he'd be the GOAT, but he'd certainly be one of, if not the most dominant fighter in the last 30 or 40 years.
All due respect Fam, it shouldn't 'bother you. They just have a different opinion plus, that term hate is so overused it's annoying. Just because a person has an objective viewpoint you may not agree with doesn't mean they are a hater either. You are probably one of the most knowledgeable people on this site as it relates to Boxing, but you are one highstrung Dude Good Brother!
This guy in his prime was a fucking BEAST!
All due respect Fam, it shouldn't 'bother you. They just have a different opinion plus, that term hate is so overused it's annoying. Just because a person has an objective viewpoint you may not agree with doesn't mean they are a hater either. You are probably one of the most knowledgeable people on this site as it relates to Boxing, but you are one highstrung Dude Good Brother!
I completely understand and respect that everyone sees things differently. I know and understand why people don't like Floyd in the ring, and out of it (I cringe at most of his antics/dealings outside of the ring,) but there's no denying that Floyd is/was an immensely talented fighter. Even in today's advanced age he could still breeze through all but the top 3 or 4 at 147
Anyhow, my beef stems from people arguing about him and not knowing or understanding the differences between PBF and Money.
If you don't like Money, fine I get it. He is a safety first fighter and he's often involved in actionless fights
But those better not be the reasons you give as to why you don't like PBF.
A perfect example is in the If they were the same size: Floyd vs RJJ in their primes thread. 'Floyd just runs. Floyd doesn't hit hard enough. RJJ will knock Floyd's shoulder off if he tries that shoulder roll...'
All types of tomfoolery in that thread.
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Loved Orlando Canzales! A beautiful fighter. One of my all time favorites. I used to tell people he moved like a guy who couldn't punch but he was knocking people out. I hadn't thought about it but there are similarities with Lomachenko.
Ok, I understand your argument but you don't give Pretty Boy Money's skills. PBF was a physically gifted fighter while Money was more of artist, craftman. Im not saying Floyd was ever one dimensional, just that he changed as a fighter. Money would have never fought Roy jones, he avoided speed. I don't recall PBF ducking anybody but I don't remember him fighting any speedsters either. He fought all comers at lightweight but at welterweight is a different story.
Zab Judah.
He was Money by time he fought Zab.
Oh I see what you meant. I thought you were talking just Floyd in general fighting quick handed fighters.
The quickest guy he fought back then was...Chop Chop? Nobody is jumping out at me.
he still called himself pretty boy for the judah fight
He may have stilled called himself that but I think of Money as the welterweight version, especially after the De La Hoya fight.
Pretty Boy was the lightweight who took on everybody.
When did he officially switch it to Money. I knew it was around the Judah/Baldomir/ODH fight timeline, but I never knew EXACTLY when he switched.
the ricky hatton fight
That late? Man, I was way off....Well one fight off. But still I thought it took place earlier.
yeah it was late in his career.
he was pretty boy aka money mayweather in that hatton fight
and then after the first retirement pretty boy was dead
Meant to ask you about this earlier. Who do you believe he ducked? Williams and Margacheeto?
Good stuff. Glad Paul understands the game and isn't bitter about the way things unfolded. I personally don't believe Floyd ducked him either, but many people do.
I think Crawford is more skilled and at an "even" weight I think it would be a super fight. But at 147 Crawford would barely be making weight and Spence would probably be 160 at fight night and we know he can take a big punch from legit 147-54. I don't think Crawford can hurt him.
I try to respect all opinions that calls Floyd runner doesn't know anything about boxing. I stop the convo there. Now if you wanna say the fights aren't exciting cool. Not everybody likes BOXING ....some people just like FIGHTING and they confuse the two.