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What to Watch on Monday: 'Black Lightning' strikes again for final season premiere
What to Watch on Monday: 'Black Lightning' strikes again for its fourth and final season premiere.
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Jefferson Pierce (Cress Williams) is at the lowest point we've ever seen him in the final season premiere of Black Lightning. Picking up a year after the Markovian invasion, the season 4 opener finds Jefferson still mourning the loss of his best friend Chief Bill Henderson, who died in the season 3 finale, and doubting whether there's any point to being Black Lightning anymore. His grief pushes him to do some reckless and shocking things, and has created some distance between him and Lynn (Christine Adams). Meanwhile, his daughters Thunder (Nafessa Williams) and Lightning (China Anne McClain) are try their best to protect the streets of Freeland, and the villainous Tobias Whale (Marvin "Krondon" Jones III) emerges from the shadows in a very surprising way. —Chancellor Agard
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Black Lightning Showrunner Says Painkiller Series Will Feature Thunder and Lightning
Black Lightning may be coming to an end with its fourth and final season, it may not be the last [...]
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Black Lightning Showrunner Says Painkiller Series Will Feature Thunder and Lightning
By NICOLE DRUM - February 14, 2021 08:27 pm EST
Black Lightning may be coming to an end with its fourth and final season, it may not be the last viewers see of the Pierce daughters, Anissa/Thunder (Nefessa Williams) and Jennifer/Lightning (China Anne McClain). According to series showrunner Salim Akil, both superheroes are likely to appear in the Painkiller spinoff series set to center around Jordan Calloway's character of the same name, should it get picked up to series.
Speaking with SYFY, Akil said that Painkiller -- which will bet a backdoor pilot in episode seven of Black Lightning this season -- will be a true spinoff and that the Pierce sisters will be a part of it.
"We're shooting the Painkiller pilot now," Akil said. "We fully intend for it to be a spinoff. I know that if Painkiller gets picked up, you'll probably see [the Pierce sisters] in there."
The idea that Jen/Lightning could appear on Painkiller is something that may be surprising for fans. Last year, shortly after the announcement that Black Lightning was ending after four seasons, McClain took to social media and revealed that already had plans to leave Black Lightning with Season 4 to be her last even before the series was canceled.
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"There's something I want to tell you, and for those who haven't heard, I'm sorry," she said at the time. "This season of Black Lightning that we're filming right now is going to be the last season of the show. I didn't find that out until yesterday. I found out with everybody else. I didn't know. But, what I did know and have known along with the rest of the cast since before we even started shooting this season is that I am leaving the show. And was leaving the show. This was going to be my last season, regardless of if it went on or not. For different reasons, that if we're being honest, I do not want to go into. I just want y’all to trust me on it."
McClain also revealed that she'd only agreed to be in a certain number of episodes, though she was clear that her decision had nothing to do with The CW and was more personal.
As for the Painkiller spinoff more generally, Akil said that he is interested in exploring the "duality" of the character.
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"With Khalil, I wanted to get into the idea of the duality of Black men," Akil explained. "How, in some cases, you're one person in one area of your life and you have to be another person. I'm trying to figure that out with this character: how do you bring those two parts of you together without sacrificing who you truly are?"
Black Lightning airs Mondays at 9 p.m. ET on The CW. The Painkiller backdoor pilot is set for the seventh episode of Black Lightning's fourth season.
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Black Lightning Showrunner Teases Arrival of Ishmael
By NICOLE DRUM - February 14, 2021 07:43 pm EST
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Black Lightning's fourth and final season kicked off last week and revealed that, despite saving Freeland from the Markovians and the ASA's occupation, things aren't all good for Jefferson Pierce/Black Lightning (Cress William). The hero is still reeling from the death of his best friend, Detective Henderson, as well as the trauma of everything else the Pierce family has been through. That trauma is set to be an important aspect of the season, but there are other threats that the Pierce family will face before the series ends. According to showrunner Salim Akil, Ishamel will make his arrival this season as well.
Speaking with SYFY, Akil said that the character will pop up before things are done to challenge the Pierce family.
"Ishmael is a new character that we're going to see, and he's from the comics," Akil said.
If fans are not familiar with Ishmael, that's because the character is fairly new. Created by Bryan Edward Hill and Dexter Soy, Ishmael debuted on the pages of Batman and the Outsiders Vol. 3 #1 in 2019. A man who was kidnapped and put in a program to create a personal army of metahumans, Ishmael gained superpowers as a result of the experimentation, the most interesting of which is the ability to leech the power of other metahumans. When the experiments caused Ishmael to start dying, Ra's al Ghul put him in a Lazarus Pit, giving him functional immortality. In the comics, Ishmael kills Black Lightning's friend and colleague Tina, a loss that hits Black Lightning particularly hard.
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Akil didn't elaborate on how Ishmael will factor into the final season of Black Lightning but did note other characters who will be making appearances this season, including Grace (Chantal Thuy), T.C. (Christopher A'mmannuel), and Brandon (Jahking Guillory). He also suggested viewers might not have seen the last of Gravedigger. Akil had previously told Entertainment Weekly he's been trying to think of a way to bring the character, played by Wayne Brady, back for the final season.
Akil also said that there were characters that he did want to include, but never was able to get to, including Bumblebee.
"You know, I wanted to include Bumblebee, but didn't want to do it just to do it," Akil said. "I wanted to find the perfect storyline, but I never was able to get to it."
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By NICOLE DRUM - February 14, 2021 07:43 pm EST
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Black Lightning's fourth and final season kicked off last week and revealed that, despite saving Freeland from the Markovians and the ASA's occupation, things aren't all good for Jefferson Pierce/Black Lightning (Cress William). The hero is still reeling from the death of his best friend, Detective Henderson, as well as the trauma of everything else the Pierce family has been through. That trauma is set to be an important aspect of the season, but there are other threats that the Pierce family will face before the series ends. According to showrunner Salim Akil, Ishamel will make his arrival this season as well.
Speaking with SYFY, Akil said that the character will pop up before things are done to challenge the Pierce family.
"Ishmael is a new character that we're going to see, and he's from the comics," Akil said.
If fans are not familiar with Ishmael, that's because the character is fairly new. Created by Bryan Edward Hill and Dexter Soy, Ishmael debuted on the pages of Batman and the Outsiders Vol. 3 #1 in 2019. A man who was kidnapped and put in a program to create a personal army of metahumans, Ishmael gained superpowers as a result of the experimentation, the most interesting of which is the ability to leech the power of other metahumans. When the experiments caused Ishmael to start dying, Ra's al Ghul put him in a Lazarus Pit, giving him functional immortality. In the comics, Ishmael kills Black Lightning's friend and colleague Tina, a loss that hits Black Lightning particularly hard.
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Akil didn't elaborate on how Ishmael will factor into the final season of Black Lightning but did note other characters who will be making appearances this season, including Grace (Chantal Thuy), T.C. (Christopher A'mmannuel), and Brandon (Jahking Guillory). He also suggested viewers might not have seen the last of Gravedigger. Akil had previously told Entertainment Weekly he's been trying to think of a way to bring the character, played by Wayne Brady, back for the final season.
Akil also said that there were characters that he did want to include, but never was able to get to, including Bumblebee.
"You know, I wanted to include Bumblebee, but didn't want to do it just to do it," Akil said. "I wanted to find the perfect storyline, but I never was able to get to it."
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Black Lightning showrunner talks final season, Painkiller spinoff, and teases Ishmael
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BLACK LIGHTNING SHOWRUNNER TALKS FINAL SEASON, PAINKILLER SPINOFF, AND TEASES ISHMAEL
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C ComicsOn Monday, Feb. 8, Black Lightning's fourth and final season, premiered on The CW. The only show on the network with a predominantly African-American cast, Black Lightning has never shied away from real-world issues. Season 3, which ended in January 2020, provided an eerie fictional preview of real-world events for the rest of the year. Freeland was shut down by a government military organization, followed by protests, state-mandated curfews, and police violence against many Black citizens. And everyone was caught in the crossfire between the ASA, armed militia, and the Markovians on the hunt for metas, leading to all-out war.
In comparison, Season 4 starts quietly. A year after The Book of Occupation storyline, Freeland almost looks like it's back to normal. In The Book of Reconstruction, when we first see Jefferson Pierce (Cress Williams), he no longer limps from the wounds inflicted upon him by Gravedigger (Wayne Brady) in the season finale. But just under the surface lie the telltale signs of trauma that come from the unrelenting stress of battle, the loss of his best friend, Inspector Henderson (Damon Gupton), and the fact that every member of the Pierce family has had to take a life to survive. No one can reach Jeff, not even close family friend Gambi (James Remar).
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This is the storyline that showrunner and premiere episode director Salim Akil drops us into almost immediately. "Since we had dealt with a lot of political issues and wrapped that up last season. I wanted to get back to family issues," Akil tells SYFY WIRE. "The Pierces have gone through so much over the first three seasons. Now they're able to sort of reflect on what they've been through. We're going to deal with the trauma of what going through that does to you."
Jefferson is clearly off-kilter. He shunned the Black Lightning name and suit and used his electrical powers on a couple of abusive cops — in broad daylight without a mask. At home, things aren't much better, as he can't seem to be present for his family, and Lynn, his wife, is at a loss. And in a rare choice for both a superhero show and a story featuring an African-American family, the Pierces go to therapy. "Not all Black people live in neighborhoods with a lot of violence in them, but far too many do," Akil says. "What I wanted to show was the idea of how to heal. That was why I put Lynn and Jefferson in therapy."
To make up for Jefferson's lack of resolve, the Pierce girls, Anissa (Nafessa Williams) and Jennifer (China Anne McClain), "Thunder" and "Lightning" respectively, pick up the slack cleaning up the streets of Freeland from the 100 gang — back to their usual nonsense in Black Lightning's absence. The synergy between Williams and McClain in their roles is palpable and many fans had hoped this meant a Thunder and Lightning spinoff show was in the works at The CW. But hopes were dashed at McClain's reduced role announcement and the cancellation news. However, according to Akil, we will see more of the Pierce sisters in the Painkiller "backdoor pilot" airing as Episode 7 this season. "We're shooting the Painkiller pilot now," Akil confirms. "We fully intend for it to be a spinoff. I know that if Painkiller gets picked up, you'll probably see [the Pierce sisters] in there."
Black Lightning character "Painkiller" (Jordan Calloway) is getting a "backdoor pilot" in episode 7 of the series this season.
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Khalil "Painkiller" Payne (Jordan Calloway) has had one of the more interesting arcs on the show. The character has gone from good guy to bad guy and back again, as Khalil fights his implanted "Painkiller" programming. The software gives him superhuman strength and fighting abilities but comes with an unpredictable psychopathic serial killer DLC option. "With Khalil, I wanted to get into the idea of the duality of Black men," Akil explains. "How, in some cases, you're one person in one area of your life and you have to be another person. I'm trying to figure that out with this character: how do you bring those two parts of you together without sacrificing who you truly are?"
We also see a duality in Tobias Whale (Marvin Jones III), who appears not as a hardened criminal, but as an upstanding citizen of Freeland. Of course, as with most things, this is just a ruse for Tobias. His goal was and always will be to get a meta stabilization gene from Jefferson's wife, genius physician Lynn Pierce. Not only can she combine different meta genes to make a meta superpower cocktail for mere mortals, but she has been experimenting with them herself, as we see her use one of Gravedigger's powers to stop a robbery.
Wale isn't the only member of Black Lightning's rogues gallery that will be making an appearance. La La is still running the 100 and Gravedigger's shapeshifting abilities he acquired in the season finale mean he might be anyone or anywhere. Akil also teased a new character for this final season that will challenge the Pierces once again. "Ishmael is a new character that we're going to see, and he's from the comics."
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The DC Comics version of Ishmael was created by Bryan Edward Hill and Dexter Soy. A member of the League of Assassins, Ishmael could leach power from other metas. We'll have to wait and see if his onscreen counterpart will share the same power set. On team Black Lightning, familiar faces like Grace (Chantal Thuy), T.C. (Christopher A'mmannuel), and meta earthbender Brandon (Jahking Guillory) will all make appearances in this final season of the show, along with newcomer Melissa De Sousa, who joined the cast during the premiere as new Freelance Chief of Police Anna Lopez.
Black Lightning was the only show on The CW that existed outside of the Arrowverse until the Crisis on Infinite Earths storyline brought Jefferson to Center City. That autonomy allowed Akil to create full story arcs for his main characters, and introduce a whole generation of Black superheroes to live-action –– heroes their parents have only seen in animation. And there were some he just didn't have enough time to explore. "You know, I wanted to include Bumblebee, but didn't want to do it just to do it. I wanted to find the perfect storyline, but I never was able to get to it."
Although Akil wishes he could have done more with these characters, he is confident that the show will come to a satisfying conclusion. "I think we could have come up with more stories for a fifth season, but it's just a blessing to have four years to tell stories. Stories that I think resonated with everyone, but particularly the African-American community. I mean, you can't beat that. When I started this, I said, if just one Halloween I could see a young man dressed up like Black Lightning or a young girl dressed up like Thunder or Lightning, then I've done something that lasts a lifetime. And that's what artists want. We want to live through the things that we create."
Its unfortunate that this show wont get renewed past this Season 4 yet the poorly written debacle Batwoman gets another season
Is it me, or has Thunder's ass gotten bigger??? Gotdamn!!!!
some simp is paying her bills..look at the house she did the video from
Man...that was a little disturbing to watch. And kinda vague too. Wonder if it has anything to do with the actor’s personal relationships.
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last episode Black Lightning Wife talked about her BROTHER JOHN WHO JOINED THE ARMY RIGHT OUT OF SCHOOL!!!!
DC/WB better not f*ck up this EASY lay up
rumor is if there was no pandemic he was SUPPOSED to appear in this current season
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they NEED to figure this out going forward...
last episode Black Lightning Wife talked about her BROTHER JOHN WHO JOINED THE ARMY RIGHT OUT OF SCHOOL!!!!
DC/WB better not f*ck up this EASY lay up
rumor is if there was no pandemic he was SUPPOSED to appear in this current season
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they NEED to figure this out going forward...
Now that this show is humming..
They want to cancel?
Focusing on the core family again has really strengthened this season
And the supporting characters make much more sense.
Its much more of drama with action now
They want to cancel?
Focusing on the core family again has really strengthened this season
And the supporting characters make much more sense.
Its much more of drama with action now
They REALLY couldn't have Diggle pop up?
Even on a damn zoom call?
Even on a damn zoom call?
Yo that was some soap opera ending
The mom is getting on my nerves. Don't use your powers for how many years. Well you are not wearing the suit so I will not stop taking these drugs, what. I guessed she would start having an affair with ol boy during last season. Then this season started with we are not intimate, yeah I know where it's going now, soap opera land.
But I do like ruthless I don't care Black Lightning. Just watching now for his acting, the fight scenes and Thunder booty.
But I do like ruthless I don't care Black Lightning. Just watching now for his acting, the fight scenes and Thunder booty.
and sadly there is some REAL life in there
NEVER let some outsider use your private personal issues to divide and control your family
What they showing Tobias doing is classic sh*t I wouldn't be surprised if Tobias watching their therapy sessions.
He hit Lynn in an OBVIOUS soft spot
she WAY to transparent
again something many can relate to that
She got that hard shell but actually REALLY vulnerable (many black women AND men can relate)
They show is touching on how we perceive black folk and family
black folk by and large don't do therapy
Having Black Lightning (a BLACK MAN) ADMIT he hurting, he is angry, he is TIRED, he wants to be a little selfish, the women in his life not listening to him, not respecting him until EVERYTHING collapses etc)
there are some REAL LIFE issues they trying to address (that is NOT being addressed like this anywhere else)
this show is returning to its roots and its sad it won't get at least one more season to explore that.
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Tobias talking salty and insulting to BL EVERY WEEK !!
I was addicted to Batman and The Outsiders back in the day
This episode was further proof that there is bad blood between China Anne McClain (Lightning)
and Cress Williams (Black Lightning) Something that major happens and they write their way around them talking face to face?
Ever notice how Mountain Dew and Doritos are the most prominent product placement in action films and shows?
I was addicted to Batman and The Outsiders back in the day
This episode was further proof that there is bad blood between China Anne McClain (Lightning)
and Cress Williams (Black Lightning) Something that major happens and they write their way around them talking face to face?
Ever notice how Mountain Dew and Doritos are the most prominent product placement in action films and shows?
a whole of gossip going around wish it all translated into better ratings.
As long as there is no bullsh*t internet hype on EITHER side
making black male actors and young black female actors look bad.
hard enough to have a successful predominantly black show
superhero/sci fi at that
Gossip saying the young girl is difficult and blame her for the show being cancelled, or saying Cress DID something to her to make her leave.
mess around and BOTH their careers could be over.
We all don';t know nothing, just watch the product on the screen.
Hope they all get bigger and better gigs going forward.
As long as there is no bullsh*t internet hype on EITHER side
making black male actors and young black female actors look bad.
hard enough to have a successful predominantly black show
superhero/sci fi at that
Gossip saying the young girl is difficult and blame her for the show being cancelled, or saying Cress DID something to her to make her leave.
mess around and BOTH their careers could be over.
We all don';t know nothing, just watch the product on the screen.
Hope they all get bigger and better gigs going forward.
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Judging by how last Tuesday's episode ended i guess that was China's final appearance
Judging by how last Tuesday's episode ended i guess that was China's final appearance
A lot of folk using that door scene as some type of proof the actors actually hated each other
But I aint see it that way
first off that scene was a DIRECT homage to Into the Spider-verse
and If you WANNA REALLY get deep
If they HAD AN ACTUAL BEEF?
The writers were clever as hell
It was like Cress was APOLOGIZING to China not just BL to his daughter
it worked on a few levels with him still talking and her leaving...
cause to me that was ALWAYS the STRENGTH of that show that separated form the rest of CW
that Black family dynamic was so damn honest.
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Tobias Whale was a great damn villain.
Tobias Whale was a great damn villain.
speaking of last episode who was that throwing the pussy at Gambi she wasn't bad-looking IMO..something tells me she wont be making it to the finale
she wasn't bad-looking IMO..something tells me she wont be making it to the finale
speaking of last episode who was that throwing the pussy at Gambi
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