Official Jessica Jones Season 3 Discussion Thread FINAL SEASON) UPDATE: SHE'S BACK?

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It wasn't as good as it has been reviewed when it came out. After the first 7 episodes it started getting repetitive as hell. Her character actually got a lot of people killed with her insisting on saving the chick in jail. The Purple Man was a cool character but would have been better if his interest in JJ was passing and not obsessive. That storyline was just drawn out too long. Overall not as good a Daredevil but not bad.

fair points
 

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It wasn't as good as it has been reviewed when it came out. After the first 7 episodes it started getting repetitive as hell. Her character actually got a lot of people killed with her insisting on saving the chick in jail. The Purple Man was a cool character but would have been better if his interest in JJ was passing and not obsessive. That storyline was just drawn out too long. Overall not as good a Daredevil but not bad.

yeah i'm not sure how it's getting such rave reviews
 

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Jessica Jones Cast and Crew On The Show's Unprecedented Sex Scenes
By Abraham Riesman and Heather Buckley


Jessica Jones (Krysten Ritter) and Luke Cage (Mike Colter) in an intimate moment. Photo: Netflix
Our onscreen superheroes are, for the most part, neutered. Sure, there’s romantic tension and the occasional kiss, but it’ll be a cold day in hell before we see Henry Cavill and Amy Adams do a boudoir scene as Superman and Lois Lane. And, yes, we hear a lot about Tony Stark’s bedroom conquests, but no Iron Man or Avengers director would ever get away with depicting his preferred sexual positions.

Not so with Marvel’s Jessica Jones. As anyone who binge-watched Netflix’s new superhero-noir series can tell you, it’s remarkably frank about sexuality: There are a half-dozen sex scenes, and they're as vivid as they are realistic. Jessica Jones’s creators and performers told us that those scenes grew out of the show’s takes on gender, power, and superhero-genre tropes — and that they were much more enjoyable to watch than to film.

Read no further if you don’t want Jessica Jones spoilers.

“People go, ‘Wow, this must be fun.’ Well, they don’t realize you do it all day. It takes, like, half a day to film it,” said Mike Colter, who plays Jessica’s love interest, a fellow superstrong loner named Luke Cage. Most of the show's sex scenes are between him and Krysten Ritter’s Jessica, and they’re pronouncedly athletic. The first one begins with the two of them in missionary position and ends with Jessica playing power bottom by getting Luke to take her from behind. Even for the eye-poppingly muscular Colter, the scene was physically draining.

“My chest and my arms were burning, there were points in my back — I was like, ‘Another take?’ Literally, I was trembling,” Colter recalled. He took solace in the leadership of episode director S.J. Clarkson, known for her work on Dexter and Heroes. “She’s the sex-scene director to have if you want to do sex scenes, because she knows exactly where to put the hands and what to do with the hands and what to do with the head. She’s just technically sound on it.”

Technical precision was also the preferred approach for David Petrarca, who directed the episode in which we see Luke and Jessica go at it three times. “The problem is, people bring their own kind of shame about sex to the table” when you shoot sex scenes, he said. “If you project that into the environment, you charge the atmosphere. So the best way is to make it as pedestrian as humanly possible.”

That said, one of the moments he directed wasn’t pedestrian by non-superhuman standards: Jessica is on top of Luke, riding him so hard that they shatter the bed’s bottom legs. The bed was a custom-built rig with breakable legs, which were held together with a pin. On command, a trigger would pull the pin and drop the bed. But even while filming that scene of sexual frenzy, the on-set atmosphere was one of artistic distance.

“That's a technical shot! That's me trying to get an Edward Hopper–esque image of the lonely woman in the window!” Petrarca recalled. “You work through the mechanics: Sheet's gonna go here, your arm's here, maybe he rolls this way to the left.”

That professionalism and honesty was crucial for Ritter. “Typically, sex scenes are probably my least-favorite thing to do,” she said. “Especially because they always rely so heavily on women making it look sexy. But these sex scenes are raw and normal! And I think they're handled the same way the superpowers are: straightforward, and from a place of character truth.”

Showrunner Melissa Rosenberg had a similar perspective on why we see Jessica having sex so often. “One of the things I love most about her is she’s very unapologetic about who she is,” Rosenberg said. “Her sexuality, her powers — they’re simply a matter of fact.”


Jessica’s also a survivor of serial rape, but those working on the show wanted to make sure her sexual appetite wasn’t seen as being rooted in trauma. “Jessica Jones is messy,” said Rachael Taylor, who plays Jessica’s best friend, Trish. “She’s not perfect, she’s damaged, she’s traumatized, she has PTSD, and she still has — like every human being on the planet — these carnal desires that are also not perfect. And I welcome that.”

Jessica’s not the only female character who asserts herself sexually. Indeed, the majority of the people who have sex on the show are women: Type-A lawyer Jeri (Carrie-Anne Moss) shares a steamy scene with her younger lover, Pam (Susie Abromeit); and Jessica’s best friend Trish gets her kicks twice with tortured cop Will (Wil Traval), including one memorable encounter in which he goes down on her.

Taylor felt the cunnilingus fit in with the show’s depiction of gender, which grew out of Rosenberg being, as Taylor put it, “truly a feminist with a capital F.” “It feels like that should just be a part of the palette, of a broad palette of how we see the spectrum of female sexual experiences,” Taylor said of the oral sex. “But to that point, I don’t think I would feel comfortable simulating the opposite onscreen.”

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One sentiment was true across the board: Even though the sex scenes are unprecedented in Marvel’s film and TV history, none of our interviewees went into them thinking they were revolutionary. “‘Groundbreaking’? I mean, okay, literally groundbreaking, because it was so physically strong and we could break ground while we were doing it, yeah,” Colter said. “But the Marvel Universe, it’s been known as a family-friendly kind of universe, so we’re just giving you a slice of something else. If you wanted to put the kids to bed, this is the version for Mom and Dad, y’know?”

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20 Marvel ‘Firsts’ in Jessica Jones

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Netflix’s Jessica Jones feels startlingly fresh for a Marvel show — it has a tightly plotted story arc and authentic relationships, and more disturbingly, the terrible themes that define the show’s universe don’t feel so far off from our own. The show is also quite literally like nothing we’ve seen from Marvel — embedded throughout are a series of firsts for the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Ahead, we pinpoint 20 ideas, themes, characters, and moments that Jessica Jones introduced to the MCU. Spoilers for Jessica Jones ahead.

First things first: First Marvel property to star a female superhero (Agent Carter doesn’t have powers, lest we forget).

First gay and lesbian characters. Jeri and Wendy Hogarth are going through a contentious divorce so Jeri can marry her mistress, Pam. The gay couple seemed happily married (and rich enough to own a yacht!). Until Kilgrave gets to them, of course.

First quoting of a Kendrick Lamar song. In episode six, Luke Cage hires Jessica Jones to find Antoine for Antoine’s sister. They eventually find him — listening and singing along to “Backseat Freestyle.” In general, the MCU has shown its superheroes to be generally out of touch or unaware of recent pop-culture references. Captain America has his notebook, baby-boomer Tony Stark has his AC/DC, and Falcon’s a fan of the Trouble Man soundtrack.

First sex scene in the MCU. While characters like Tony Stark and Peter Quill reference their sexual exploits and Hawkeye probably had to make those babies somehow, the MCU has been relatively chaste. Heck, we still wonder if Captain America’s a virgin and Daredevil’s Charlie Cox got more action in his movie Stardust than throughout his own show. On Jessica Jones, Luke Cage and Jessica have hot, rough sex, while elsewhere in the MCU, it’s all Disney kisses at tense, climactic moments.

In fact, it’s the first sex scene between two superheroes. Outside of fanfiction, of course.

And the first cunnilingus scene — and the first oral sex of any kind! Again, outside of fanfiction.

First severed head on a desk. Yes, we see Captain America stabbing people, Black Widow electrocuting them, and more than enough smashing and explosions, but rarely do we get a look at the bodies left in their wake. And even while Daredevil was particularly violent, Jessica Jones is stomach-churningly grisly. Makes sense, considering creator and executive producer Melissa Rosenberg was the head writer of Dexter for its first four glorious seasons.

First Marvel property that doesn’t start with an origin story. The mystery of Jessica’s life, traumas, and powers unfold at a pace that’s slow enough to intrigue but fast enough not to drag. Daredevil was riddled with flashbacks; Jessica only needs one scene of smashing a bathroom sink as a teenager to establish her powers.

First scene of fighting child abuse. The same scene that establishes Jessica’s powers also establishes her purpose: saving Trish from her horrible mother. While Matt Murdock tells a similar origin story to Foggy — beating up a man abusing his daughter — it’s another thing to actually see it happen.

First use of the words, and acknowledgement of, rape and PTSD. Tony Stark had terrible and realistic panic attacks in Iron Man 3, but no one put a name to it: PTSD. And when Jessica clearly draws a line between what Kilgrave does and what consent actually is, she also draws a line between MCU properties that don’t acknowledge rape and her show, which does.

First drug-addict detox. Yes, Tony Stark has a severe alcohol problem in Iron Man 2, but it goes relatively unmentioned in future iterations of his character as he sips Champagne with Pepper Potts in The Avengers. Obviously, heroin is a whole different beast, but the fact that Jessica pushes Malcolm out of the hold Kilgrave has on him — both the mind control and the drug addiction — is another instance of how the show doesn’t flinch away from terrible things that, unlike aliens attacking, actually happen.

First pregnancy and first abortion. After Hope Shlottman gets beaten up in jail, Jessica visits her and finds out that Hope’s pregnant with Kilgrave’s baby and trying to get rid of it any way she can. Her lawyer Jeri eventually gives her the means to do so.

First successful suicide attempt. A pretty major character offs herself, which we’ll refrain from mentioning for those who haven’t finished the series yet. A lot of MCU characters have a death wish, but rarely do they succeed.

First mention of race and racism. Sure, all the characters in MCU have black friends, but do they ever once realize the racism those characters face? Ruben points this out to Jessica, and she ends up exploiting this for her own means, using Malcolm as a distraction at Metro General so she can sneak off to get the surgical anesthesia to use against Kilgrave.

Calling out police brutality. Speaking of realistic New York, Simpson the cop is trigger-happy even as we see him un-Kilgraved, slamming Malcolm against a wall. While Trish insists Simpson’s a good person, Jessica is more wary, constantly calling him out on his excessive use of force.

First time the MTA makes a cameo in one of MCU’s many New York–based stories. The MTA is in this as a villain (covering for a drunk bus driver), making Jessica Jones the most New York MCU property ever.

First freelancing superhero. The fact that any of the MCU superheroes have any kind of work-life balance is probably because they turn their vigilantism into salaried positions, whether it’s working at Stark Industries or S.H.I.E.L.D. or starting their own small law firms. That scene with Jessica hounding Jeri about a payment? Too real.

First superhero with a biological sibling. Yes, of course Loki counts as Thor’s brother, but every MCU superhero aside from Jessica is an only child.
First shitty apartment. Okay, it’s huge for a freelancing gumshoe in Hell’s Kitchen with no roommates. But it’s still got all the cracks and stains of a real crap New York apartment, which contrasts nicely with the apartments Kilgrave steals and occupies.

First time a Marvel superhero takes selfies. Jessica uses her phone a ton in comparison to the other MCU properties (though Cap does receive texts from Black Widow in Captain America: The Winter Soldier), and at one point, she starts sendings selfies to Kilgrave. Superheroes usually get photos taken of them. And before anyone says Spider-Man, it does not count as a selfie if you have to put a timer on your camera.

http://www.vulture.com/2015/11/jessica-jones-marvel-firsts.html#
 

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Jessica Jones Cast and Crew On The Show's Unprecedented Sex Scenes
By Abraham Riesman and Heather Buckley


Jessica Jones (Krysten Ritter) and Luke Cage (Mike Colter) in an intimate moment. Photo: Netflix
Our onscreen superheroes are, for the most part, neutered. Sure, there’s romantic tension and the occasional kiss, but it’ll be a cold day in hell before we see Henry Cavill and Amy Adams do a boudoir scene as Superman and Lois Lane. And, yes, we hear a lot about Tony Stark’s bedroom conquests, but no Iron Man or Avengers director would ever get away with depicting his preferred sexual positions.

Not so with Marvel’s Jessica Jones. As anyone who binge-watched Netflix’s new superhero-noir series can tell you, it’s remarkably frank about sexuality: There are a half-dozen sex scenes, and they're as vivid as they are realistic. Jessica Jones’s creators and performers told us that those scenes grew out of the show’s takes on gender, power, and superhero-genre tropes — and that they were much more enjoyable to watch than to film.

Read no further if you don’t want Jessica Jones spoilers.

“People go, ‘Wow, this must be fun.’ Well, they don’t realize you do it all day. It takes, like, half a day to film it,” said Mike Colter, who plays Jessica’s love interest, a fellow superstrong loner named Luke Cage. Most of the show's sex scenes are between him and Krysten Ritter’s Jessica, and they’re pronouncedly athletic. The first one begins with the two of them in missionary position and ends with Jessica playing power bottom by getting Luke to take her from behind. Even for the eye-poppingly muscular Colter, the scene was physically draining.

“My chest and my arms were burning, there were points in my back — I was like, ‘Another take?’ Literally, I was trembling,” Colter recalled. He took solace in the leadership of episode director S.J. Clarkson, known for her work on Dexter and Heroes. “She’s the sex-scene director to have if you want to do sex scenes, because she knows exactly where to put the hands and what to do with the hands and what to do with the head. She’s just technically sound on it.”

Technical precision was also the preferred approach for David Petrarca, who directed the episode in which we see Luke and Jessica go at it three times. “The problem is, people bring their own kind of shame about sex to the table” when you shoot sex scenes, he said. “If you project that into the environment, you charge the atmosphere. So the best way is to make it as pedestrian as humanly possible.”

That said, one of the moments he directed wasn’t pedestrian by non-superhuman standards: Jessica is on top of Luke, riding him so hard that they shatter the bed’s bottom legs. The bed was a custom-built rig with breakable legs, which were held together with a pin. On command, a trigger would pull the pin and drop the bed. But even while filming that scene of sexual frenzy, the on-set atmosphere was one of artistic distance.

“That's a technical shot! That's me trying to get an Edward Hopper–esque image of the lonely woman in the window!” Petrarca recalled. “You work through the mechanics: Sheet's gonna go here, your arm's here, maybe he rolls this way to the left.”

That professionalism and honesty was crucial for Ritter. “Typically, sex scenes are probably my least-favorite thing to do,” she said. “Especially because they always rely so heavily on women making it look sexy. But these sex scenes are raw and normal! And I think they're handled the same way the superpowers are: straightforward, and from a place of character truth.”

Showrunner Melissa Rosenberg had a similar perspective on why we see Jessica having sex so often. “One of the things I love most about her is she’s very unapologetic about who she is,” Rosenberg said. “Her sexuality, her powers — they’re simply a matter of fact.”


Jessica’s also a survivor of serial rape, but those working on the show wanted to make sure her sexual appetite wasn’t seen as being rooted in trauma. “Jessica Jones is messy,” said Rachael Taylor, who plays Jessica’s best friend, Trish. “She’s not perfect, she’s damaged, she’s traumatized, she has PTSD, and she still has — like every human being on the planet — these carnal desires that are also not perfect. And I welcome that.”

Jessica’s not the only female character who asserts herself sexually. Indeed, the majority of the people who have sex on the show are women: Type-A lawyer Jeri (Carrie-Anne Moss) shares a steamy scene with her younger lover, Pam (Susie Abromeit); and Jessica’s best friend Trish gets her kicks twice with tortured cop Will (Wil Traval), including one memorable encounter in which he goes down on her.

Taylor felt the cunnilingus fit in with the show’s depiction of gender, which grew out of Rosenberg being, as Taylor put it, “truly a feminist with a capital F.” “It feels like that should just be a part of the palette, of a broad palette of how we see the spectrum of female sexual experiences,” Taylor said of the oral sex. “But to that point, I don’t think I would feel comfortable simulating the opposite onscreen.”

:idea:


http://www.vulture.com/2015/11/jessica-jones-sex-scenes.html

Axel Braun better get on that XXX parody :lol:
 

yaBoi

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ok

first half of the season.....boring

last half DOPE!

shit got good really good.....:yes:
 

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I am on episode 9 and I will say that there were a couple of parts that dragged on. But over all, I like it.. And I will say that I never really bothered to pay that much attention to Krysten Ritter before.. But i have grown an attraction to her body.. lol Her body is dope and that sex scene with cage after they realized each others powers, was dope.. So not for nothing, I like the show.. But I get an added bonus looking at her frame. :)
 

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Hmm I didn't like Daredevil so i'm assuming I will most likely not like this also. Let me know if my thought process is wrong
 

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I am on episode 9 and I will say that there were a couple of parts that dragged on. But over all, I like it.. And I will say that I never really bothered to pay that much attention to Krysten Ritter before.. But i have grown an attraction to her body.. lol Her body is dope and that sex scene with cage after they realized each others powers, was dope.. So not for nothing, I like the show.. But I get an added bonus looking at her frame. :)

those pics of her from The Fappening are nice..i think she busting it open in one of them
 

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I enjoyed it, but agree that it dragged in the middle. This would have been excellent as a 10-episode season as it would eliminate much of the repetition of the middle act.

When ol' boy went down on Trish, at first I was like "nah they ain't showing her getting head, she must be masterbating" and my chick was like ":eek: Yoooo! She getting eaties! I know that face!"

They get props for taking chances.
 

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Kilgrav is such a bitch! Nothing scary at all about him.Can't do his own work needs others to do his bullshit. Nothing but a scared little boy! Make you wanna punch him right in the mouth....PATHETIC!!!

Now a villain like Wilson Fisk...much respect!

/end of review
 
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Kilgrav is such a bitch! Nothing scary at all about him.Can't do his own work needs others to do his bullshit. Nothing but a scared little boy! Make you wanna punch him right in the mouth....PATHETIC!!!

Now a villain like Wilson Fisk...much respect!

/end of review

I felt the same way: there is nothing physically imposing or terrifying about Kilgrave; however, he has that Joker-esque air of unpredictability that makes his character unnerving.

His childishness is the reason he isn't even a C level villain, if he had some true intentions beyond Jessica he could have been one of the worst.
 

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I'm on E10 now, but that Luke Cage guy was the shit (even though he's long gone)...fine I mean. :yes::yes:

And another poster stated in here, can't find the post, but JJ is getting too many people killed.

Also, I'm not a comic book fan, but I'm enjoying the show.
 

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peace

Shit is entertainig as am halfway through 6 or 7.
She's selling it & I'm copping. Well done.
Kilgrave hazing the shit out of the entire hood.
We'll see how they put it all together in the end.
 

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Kilgrav is such a bitch! Nothing scary at all about him.Can't do his own work needs others to do his bullshit. Nothing but a scared little boy! Make you wanna punch him right in the mouth....PATHETIC!!!

Now a villain like Wilson Fisk...much respect!

/end of review

I felt the same way: there is nothing physically imposing or terrifying about Kilgrave; however, he has that Joker-esque air of unpredictability that makes his character unnerving.

His childishness is the reason he isn't even a C level villain, if he had some true intentions beyond Jessica he could have been one of the worst.

that was the whole point of kilgrav, you call him a bitch boy who cant do shit except make you do whatever the fuck he desires you to do no matter how silly or deadly and you knowing fully well what you are doing and you cant do shit to stop it. imagine that. if that bitch boy told you to cut your dick off throw it in a blender and drink it thats what the fuck you would do.
 

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that was the whole point of kilgrav, you call him a bitch boy who cant do shit except make you do whatever the fuck he desires you to do no matter how silly or deadly and you knowing fully well what you are doing and you cant do shit to stop it. imagine that. if that bitch boy told you to cut your dick off throw it in a blender and drink it thats what the fuck you would do.


This is why I think kilgrav might be one of the most terrifying villains on the small screen for marvel. It wasn't like you were hypnotized. You wanted to do what ever he said.

I also loved the fact that he set up mental traps within people to act as shields. Dude was cunning.


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It just reminds me of Dexter, at a certain point, you get so pissed off with the main character that you want them gone. Just because of one person, she causes so many people to die or suffer, fuck her self fucking righteousness/penance, fuck the writer and fuck everything about JJ! Mi dun wid this rasclat show!

 
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This is why I think kilgrav might be one of the most terrifying villains on the small screen for marvel. It wasn't like you were hypnotized. You wanted to do what ever he said.

I also loved the fact that he set up mental traps within people to act as shields. Dude was cunning.


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he could have been a great villain- if he wasn't written as super date rape dude...

bitch was fighting for her own safety no one else's

Jessica Jones = "f u c k all o y'all - I need to feel safe again"
 

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This is why I think kilgrav might be one of the most terrifying villains on the small screen for marvel. It wasn't like you were hypnotized. You wanted to do what ever he said.

I also loved the fact that he set up mental traps within people to act as shields. Dude was cunning.


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Pussy fight like a man! Stop hiding behind compelled little girls and the handicap. NO RESPECT!! NO PROPS!!

Worst he's vulnerable as hell. One shot that he doesn't see coming and he's done.


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Jessica Jones aka feminist agenda.
1. Covers abortion, lesbianism, getting rid of the black women and sleeping with the black man and the love for there fellow white women in the struggle.

feminisim...

this was an excellent Lifetime series brought to Netflix

It wasn't as good as it has been reviewed when it came out. After the first 7 episodes it started getting repetitive as hell. Her character actually got a lot of people killed with her insisting on saving the chick in jail. The Purple Man was a cool character but would have been better if his interest in JJ was passing and not obsessive. That storyline was just drawn out too long. Overall not as good a Daredevil but not bad.

Just finished watching it. Cosigning all these.
 

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I'm sorry but Killgrav was a more terrifying villain than Fisk. With Fisk when he decided your time was up it done without warning. Fisk was scary enough that they would kill themselves knowing their fate with Fisk. But with Killgrav, he controlled your actions and it was up to him if you remembered it. Like the scene at the police station he had them pointing guns at one another and they were all totally aware of it then convince each of them it was prank. And the guy he told to go stand by the gate forever, flashed back to him he was at death door still standing. Had his mother gut herself as his father watched then told him to cut out his heart. They had to tie him up to keep him from killing himself. He had know remorse what so ever and his rational of it all, he just told them to do it, he didn't actually committed the killings they did.
 

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I finally finished watching all 13 episodes and I can honestly say that getting through the last few episodes was a chore.
Don't get me wrong. This show wasn't bad by any stretch of the imagination. I just don't understand the outpouring of love.

The last few episodes were the best of the season but they came at a point when I thought they really should have been wrapping shit up.
The story would have been better served as 7 to 10 episode run. 13 was just too goddamn much. There was way too much repeating shit.


 

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Just finished it. I really liked it. I thought the casting was damn near perfect. It's obvious that Netflix doesnt have the per episode budget for a lot of special effects so I wasn't too mad with the way they used JJ's powers. Her character grew on me. Definitely flawed...majorly....but I feel like that's the point and ultimately one of the things I like the most about her. Purple Man was a good villain and moreso than being the type of threat thats ongoing, I liked them using him to establish JJ's world view and then having his death be a pivot point for her. Luke Muthafuckin Cage though...definitely well done. Looking forward to his series even more now. Can see where they are tying it all in...props to Rosario with the Night Nurse cameo and bringing DD into the picture. The Heroes for Hire angle is shaping nicely and I will be tuned in. Overall....I give it an A-.
 

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the show seems made for network TV and so a lot of shit is dragged out imo...the show is "edgy" by marvel's standards but it's very tame compared to premium cable shows so it can feel safe/boring @ times...but I watched ep 3 + 4 y-day and it reminds me a lot of smallville...a lot of snooping/investigative work etc. w/ a rare (usually disappointing lol) display of super powers...but it still has its "charm"...once I accepted it for what it is I began to enjoy it...and that's that it's a decent story overall
 
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