**** Official "LOST" Final Season Discussion Thread ****

Jagi

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Damn, Desmond isn't having a side flash, he's moving thru alt timelines...charlie's having visions too.

he always does he ran through a bunch of timelines before, why is Eloise always fucking with Desmond? She even tried to stop him from buying an engagement ring. she's like agent anderson from the matrix

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Desmonds driver was the guy from the ship that kept flashing back and forth through time but they couldn't save him and he died on the boat.

wikousky or something
 

Jagi

True Fist of the North Star
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good episode

the desmond episodes are usually the best..

notice the ship he originally crashed on the island was hanging in widmore's office as well as a painting with the scale and white and black rock on them on what looked like the mural that was in the hatch....


also the chair and magnetic room they locked desmond in resembles jacobs/mib's cabin with the same rocking chair..

this is why i watch every episode twice.



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also the whisky that widmore told desmond he could never have because he is not worthy in earlier episodes

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Real Space/Imaginary Time Line?

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Rick Spanish

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desmonds wasnt a flash sideways i believe. he was going back and forth in between both worlds. he was aware of what was happening. i guess the mirrors are so the other can take a look at themselves and realize whats happening

If he was aware from the beginning, he would have recognized Claire the moment he saw her.


My theory is that he switched timelines. The Desmond from the Alternative world is now on the island, and vice versa. :yes:
 

srwhite9541

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If he was aware from the beginning, he would have recognized Claire the moment he saw her.


My theory is that he switched timelines. The Desmond from the Alternative world is now on the island, and vice versa. :yes:

Cant be. The lady asked him, at first you we fighting like hell with Witmore, now all of a sudden you just gonna go along with him. Has to be same Desmond.
 

Count23

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There's two desmonds. But they're somewhat aware
of each others existence more than the rest.
 

EPDC

El Pirate Del Caribe
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If he was aware from the beginning, he would have recognized Claire the moment he saw her.


My theory is that he switched timelines. The Desmond from the Alternative world is now on the island, and vice versa. :yes:
I agree. I think Desmonds mind/realities were swapped when he was used in the EMP device.

Desomond, in the side-flash has a good relationship with Charles Widmore, where as the original timeline Widmore hates Desomond's guts. When Desmond was retrieved from the device, he was all for working with Widmore.

Also, Why would the sideways Desmond ask for the planes manifest? He want's to seek out the survivors to tell them of their alternate lives perhaps.
 

srwhite9541

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Did anyone else notice last night that Eloise seemed to know what was going on? Almost like the people of flight 815's sideways reality is the matrix or something.
 

Rick Spanish

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Cant be. The lady asked him, at first you we fighting like hell with Witmore, now all of a sudden you just gonna go along with him. Has to be same Desmond.

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That makes it make sense even more...

I agree. I think Desmonds mind/realities were swapped when he was used in the EMP device.

Desomond, in the side-flash has a good relationship with Charles Widmore, where as the original timeline Widmore hates Desomond's guts. When Desmond was retrieved from the device, he was all for working with Widmore.

Also, Why would the sideways Desmond ask for the planes manifest? He want's to seek out the survivors to tell them of their alternate lives perhaps.
Exactly! If it doesnt unfold like that, I will be disappointed. :yes:
 

AllState17

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:confused:

That makes it make sense even more...


Exactly! If it doesnt unfold like that, I will be disappointed. :yes:


But then it doesnt make sense that he would willingly go with Sayid like he knew him. Alternate Desmond wouldnt have gone with him like its all good.
 

Rick Spanish

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But then it doesnt make sense that he would willingly go with Sayid like he knew him. Alternate Desmond wouldnt have gone with him like its all good.

The guy jumped out the jungle, and killed two people with his bare hands. You wouldnt go with him too? :confused:
 

EPDC

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But then it doesnt make sense that he would willingly go with Sayid like he knew him. Alternate Desmond wouldnt have gone with him like its all good.
Sayid referred to Desmond by name, so Desmond must have had a feeling they new each other. Also, as already stated, when Desmond came too, the chick in the glasses mentioned that Desmond and Widmore were just fighting each other.....Look, Desmond wakes up on the floor in an EMP device, has a woman mention he was just fighting Widmore, that "that thing fried your brain," sees himself in a strange place, and is referred to, by name, by a "stranger" Iraqi commando bad ass motherfucker saying he "doesn't have time to explain, but these people are dangerous, we have to go now".....You telling me you wouldn't be like "cool, lets go?"
 

EPDC

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Not with a big smile on my face.

Desmond wasnt even shook.

If an Arab jumps out of nowhere guns blazing im running for my life!!!!!
He never pointed the gun at Desmond, referred to him by his name, said these people are dangerous and we have to go. I think the smile on Desmond's face was him taking all this new information/timeline/life in......He said a lot can change in 20 minutes himself.....
 

AllState17

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Sayid referred to Desmond by name, so Desmond must have had a feeling they new each other. Also, as already stated, when Desmond came too, the chick in the glasses mentioned that Desmond and Widmore were just fighting each other.....Look, Desmond wakes up on the floor in an EMP device, has a woman mention he was just fighting Widmore, that "that thing fried your brain," sees himself in a strange place, and is referred to, by name, by a "stranger" Iraqi commando bad ass motherfucker saying he "doesn't have time to explain, but these people are dangerous, we have to go now".....You telling me you wouldn't be like "cool, lets go?"

No he would not.

Again, he would at least be shook.

I understand that in your theory, he just realized there is an alternate reality, so what else can surprise him right?

But unless alternate Desmond has been around gun fire in his life before, the sight of Sayid should have him pissing his pants and begging for his life.
 

srwhite9541

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He never pointed the gun at Desmond, referred to him by his name, said these people are dangerous and we have to go. I think the smile on Desmond's face was him taking all this new information/timeline/life in......He said a lot can change in 20 minutes himself.....

Man you cant justify that. As much fight as desmond have in him, why would he be so nonchalant?
 

king_country

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BTW has anybody been keeping up with Sayid's kill count?!:lol: Ole dude is like a 00Arab!:lol: His kill ratio per episode has to be like 1.6...I just hope he goes out (if he's axed)like the beast he is, I don't wanna see him save someone and see a flower bloom from his hand! As long as they make him go out like Denzel in Training Day or him strapped to a bomb laughing, i'm good:lol:

:lol:
 

EPDC

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Man you cant justify that. As much fight as desmond have in him, why would he be so nonchalant?
Because he is aware that he is existing in two separate lives/existence's. If he would have freaked out, the people surrounding him, Sayid, etc...would have known something was up. Can you say, keeping his cool, taking this new existence in?
 

AllState17

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Because he is aware that he is existing in two separate lives/existence's. If he would have freaked out, the people surrounding him, Sayid, etc...would have known something was up. Can you say, keeping his cool, taking this new existence in?

So according to your theory, one Desmond wants everyone to know something is up, but yet the other one is trying to hide it from everyone?

Come on man.
 

TimRock

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heres a thought a little far fetched, but i'll take a stab at. Desmond asked for the flight manifest, obviously sayids name is on there. so we assume that desmond will contact everyone on the list, we dont know if he has done that as of yet, so perhaps thats why he willingly goes with sayid, because he knows who he is, and perhaps, will lead him to the other people on the list.
 
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srwhite9541

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heres a thought a little far fetched, but i'll take a stab at. Desmond asked for the flight manifest, obviously sayids name is on there. so we assume that desmond will contact everyone on the list, we dont know if has done that as of yet, so perhaps that why he willingly goes with sayid, because he knows who he is, and perhaps, will lead him to the other people on the list.

Ok That seems more logical. Dont agree, hope that isnt the case, but still logical.
 

EPDC

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heres a thought a little far fetched, but i'll take a stab at. Desmond asked for the flight manifest, obviously sayids name is on there. so we assume that desmond will contact everyone on the list, we dont know if has done that as of yet, so perhaps that why he willingly goes with sayid, because he knows who he is, and perhaps, will lead him to the other people on the list.
Good one....didn't think of that. Each timeline isn't working on the same actual time. We might get a flash sideways of Desmond doing just that in the alternate timeline.
 

Count23

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The only problem I have with this theory yall throwin around, is why would Desmond be all calm around Penny? He was acting as though he had a vauge idea of who she was, but you would think that if he went thru as much shit in the original timeline for her as he has & the fact that they have a child together, he would be acting a lil more frantic, trying (and failing) to get her to remember their life together. Not calmly trying to get a date with her. Also when Desmond woke up in the room, he wasn't confused at all by the people around him. Also when Charles went to explain his plan, Desmond cut him off saying that he understood and it was no problem, why would alt. Desmond do that if he would have no idea what is going on. Maybe Desmond has an idea of what is happening and that's why he went with Sayid.

Maybe what happened with everyone is this analogy; the original and alt. versions of the lost crew live in the same room but looking thru windows on the opposite side of the room. Everyone has a wall in the middle of the room so that they are not aware of each other's existence. With Desmond, Charlie, and Faraday (altho he's Widmore in this version) (Maybe Eloise and Charles Widmore, I'm not sure), the wall is crumbling in the middle to the point where they can catch a glimpse of each other. Only difference between Desmond, Faraday, and Charlie is that only Desmond is alive on this side.
 

Rick Spanish

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The only problem I have with this theory yall throwin around, is why would Desmond be all calm around Penny? He was acting as though he had a vauge idea of who she was, but you would think that if he went thru as much shit in the original timeline for her as he has & the fact that they have a child together, he would be acting a lil more frantic, trying (and failing) to get her to remember their life together. Not calmly trying to get a date with her. Also when Desmond woke up in the room, he wasn't confused at all by the people around him. Also when Charles went to explain his plan, Desmond cut him off saying that he understood and it was no problem, why would alt. Desmond do that if he would have no idea what is going on. Maybe Desmond has an idea of what is happening and that's why he went with Sayid.

Maybe what happened with everyone is this analogy; the original and alt. versions of the lost crew live in the same room but looking thru windows on the opposite side of the room. Everyone has a wall in the middle of the room so that they are not aware of each other's existence. With Desmond, Charlie, and Faraday (altho he's Widmore in this version) (Maybe Eloise and Charles Widmore, I'm not sure), the wall is crumbling in the middle to the point where they can catch a glimpse of each other. Only difference between Desmond, Faraday, and Charlie is that only Desmond is alive on this side.

1. He doesnt want to frighten Penny away. If he came at her with Alternative timeline stories she would obviously think he was nuts, and steer clear of him.

2. When Desmond wakes up he gives the "Where the fuck am I?" look, and says "How long was I unconscious?".

3. Why would he ask for the planes manifest after he fell unconscious in front of Penny? What changed for him to request it?
 

Count23

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1. He doesnt want to frighten Penny away. If he came at her with Alternative timeline stories she would obviously think he was nuts, and steer clear of him.

Disagree. He looks and talks to her as if he has a vague idea in the back of his mind about who she is supposed to be, but can't really put his finger on it.

2. When Desmond wakes up he gives the "Where the fuck am I?" look, and says "How long was I unconscious?".

Dawg everyone does that for the first couple of seconds when they regain consciousness; it's apart of being disorientated.


3. Why would he ask for the planes manifest after he fell unconscious in front of Penny? What changed for him to request it?

Becuz Charlie told him that these visions started to happen when they were on the plane, and meeting Penny confirmed what was happening to him was real. More than likely he wants the manifest, becuz he has an idea that when he reads it, he might tap into the memory of the "original" Desmond and recognize names that he shouldn't otherwise know (like Penny).

Also, it would make sense that the original desmond not be surprised at the sight of Sayid since he saw him at the end of last weeks ep. However if it was alt Desmond, I don't care how calm he wanted to be, he would show some signs of bein shook when sayid came outta nowhere and killed that guy (especially smiling). Also he never asks who the hell are yall when he wakes up in the room, just how long was i out...
 

TimRock

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:confused:

Why would you have to see it for it to happen? This show doesn't hold your hand nearly that much. :smh:

because if theres no indication that he ever met sayid off the island or spoke with him, the explanation makes no sense.
 

Damian Stone

I saw a real UFO....
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Looks like Desmond was watching alt-Desmond story unfold just like we were without being able to interfere. That's the only explanation that makes sense to me.
 

TimRock

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the conversation that charlie and desmond have in the bar regarding the girl, is very important. While charlie was "out", he saw his life on the island.
 

Rick Spanish

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because if theres no indication that he ever met sayid off the island or spoke with him, the explanation makes no sense.

My answer to that is a motherfucker starts killing people with his bare hands, you're gonna do what he says. Desmond wasnt in a fighting mood, and seemed to be in some type of docile state. Im not saying that theory is 100%, but its plausible.
 
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TimRock

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just read somewhere

desmond is the constant of all the characters on the show…when desmond was in the hospital, we saw on the brain scanner the numbers 37,215 and 46. when we add them up, it gives the total of 308 !!! jaacob said in the lighthouse episode that someone was coming to the island, and he told hurley to look at 308…
 
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