Official Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Discussion (12/1/17 @8PM)

[silentking]

I knew this would happen. From the beginning I knew AoS would be a set up for the movies, a tie in. We have to get that introduction but they been 'finding' Hydra like things all season. I was just thinking that Hydra would show up in Thor:TDW...had to wait until Cap.

Folks been sleeping on this. Calling it cheesy. I laugh. Like any good story you gotta get the players down first. This shit so deep, LOL. So many questions!

that's why i say they're winning. never seen a movie franchise/tv show overlap like this. I'm all in.

 

[silentking]

Surprised no one caught Agent HAND talking about Hydra taking over SHIELDS EAST AFRICAN HQ

i peeped it...just hope they save BP for the big screen and don't Deathlok him.

 

[melonpecan]

Surprised no one caught Agent HAND talking about Hydra taking over SHIELDS EAST AFRICAN HQ

Oh naw, I caught that.

i peeped it...just hope they save BP for the big screen and don't Deathlok him.

I don't think they will. I thought it was at least confirmed that he would get a movie...maybe down the line though. But Whedon got a habit of using the same actors. So if he's at the helm of another Marvel movie, we might see Richards on the big screen depending on how the story lines go. I wouldn't doubt it.

 

[silentking]

Oh naw, I caught that.

I don't think they will. I thought it was at least confirmed that he would get a movie...maybe down the line though. But Whedon got a habit of using the same actors. So if he's at the helm of another Marvel movie, we might see Richards on the big screen depending on how the story lines go. I wouldn't doubt it.

we'll see

 

[Willyum]

I caught the Africa reference too...

But even bigger and closer... Did you guys catch when Agent Simmons and Agent Tripplet was in the room and simmons says "How do I know I can trust you?" and Tripplet replies, and I quote "You're the one who works with the zombie robot back from the dead!"... and as pointed out above Phil and Ward did give each other a look... I said a long time ago that Phil is the Vision, and from the comics the vision does start out as a double agent working in shield for Ultron... Ultron is around the corner. Am I still alone on this, why would Tripplet use those particular words???

Another thing... Ms Marvel... Human with Cree blood in her system. We already know Sky is an 084 who now just happens to have that dead Cree blood in her system... Am I alone on this???

Now this next part I'm a little fuzzy on, but wasn't it Ms Marvel that helped to stop the Vision when he was mopping the floor with the Avengers... Then they brought him back to the good side... Coulson is like a father figure to Sky, who better to check him and get him right. Sky converts someone but I don't think it will be Ward.

 

[silentking]

I caught the Africa reference too...

But even bigger and closer... Did you guys catch when Agent Simmons and Agent Tripplet was in the room and simmons says "How do I know I can trust you?" and Tripplet replies, and I quote "You're the one who works with the zombie robot back from the dead!"... and as pointed out above Phil and Ward did give each other a look... I said a long time ago that Phil is the Vision, and from the comics the vision does start out as a double agent working in shield for Ultron... Ultron is around the corner. Am I still alone on this, why would Tripplet use those particular words???

Another thing... Ms Marvel... Human with Cree blood in her system. We already know Sky is an 084 who now just happens to have that dead Cree blood in her system... Am I alone on this???

Now this next part I'm a little fuzzy on, but wasn't it Ms Marvel that helped to stop the Vision when he was mopping the floor with the Avengers... Then they brought him back to the good side... Coulson is like a father figure to Sky, who better to check him and get him right. Sky converts someone but I don't think it will be Ward.

I been mulling over the Skye/Ms. Marvel idea for a minute. Coulson as Vision seems more far fetched...just from the standpoint of the actor vs. the character (Vision) on screen.

 

[Willyum]

I been mulling over the Skye/Ms. Marvel idea for a minute. Coulson as Vision seems more far fetched...just from the standpoint of the actor vs. the character (Vision) on screen.

Damn, I got that feeling again I had when I was young... Cant wait to see what happens!

 

[3rd__Optic]

I'm glad that I decided to hang around and continue watching this show. It's definitely one of the best shows on besides The Blacklist and The Walking Dead. Good Stuff!!

 

[melonpecan]

Skye is a 'miracle'

 

[J Storm]

Zombie Robot??? Vision??? This is Marvel, not Fox

 

[ThaBurgerPimp]

I been mulling over the Skye/Ms. Marvel idea for a minute. Coulson as Vision seems more far fetched...just from the standpoint of the actor vs. the character (Vision) on screen.

already been confirmed that Coulson is NOT The Vision..Paul Bettany is playing Vision in Avengers 2(as a"evolved" form of Tony Stark's "JARVIS" computer)

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

I'm glad that I decided to hang around and continue watching this show. It's definitely one of the best shows on besides The Blacklist and The Walking Dead. Good Stuff!!

yea i stopped posting in here. but i kept watching.

the best part is they did exactly what i said they should do. build a storyline that lasts past 1 ep and go darker.

that was all they needed to do.

good job

 

[silentking]

already been confirmed that Coulson is NOT The Vision..Paul Bettany is playing Vision in Avengers 2(as a"evolved" form of Tony Stark's "JARVIS" computer)

makes sense. i kinda got a notion that was how Vision would come about from Iron Man 3...Ultron too.

 

[joneblaze]

This was one of the best episodes but i too was waiting for an at least minor villain to show up from the comics.

 

[Heavenlywings77]

Missed the episode. Where can I watch it for free?

And SmH @ everyone who wanted this to be Avengers light the t.v. show. This is about the Agents, lets keep it that way. I don't want a show built on cameos and bullcrap. I want a what the title says Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

 

[The Pope]

Missed the episode. Where can I watch it for free?

And SmH @ everyone who wanted this to be Avengers light the t.v. show. This is about the Agents, lets keep it that way. I don't want a show built on cameos and bullcrap. I want a what the title says Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

cant you see it on Hulu for free ? I know Hulu Plus you have to pay

 

[playahaitian]

yea i stopped posting in here. but i kept watching.

the best part is they did exactly what i said they should do. build a storyline that lasts past 1 ep and go darker.

that was all they needed to do.

good job

Cuz...

you they pretty much JACKED your outline right?

as i said lol


and i know comics some but im by no means a comic head.

i just know good tv when i see it.

that episode to me was too "bright" it's like a tween show, and tween shows aren't good. and as far as the budget goes they don't even need huge amounts of cgi to be effective.

the shows need to be intense, comic relief is ok but it almost felt like they damn near wanted to add a laugh track

people enjoy extremely funny

or super intense and involving.

this tried to be tween and i don't know if ppl can pull that off. i think be intense have multiple story arc episodes and sprinkle in comedy from specific characters.

The day of the bubblegum show is over imo.

You can't have a bubblegum drama. this show is a drama, there can be funny moments in dramas but overall you should be involved.

im not saying it won't happen, just the first episode didn't do a good job of immediately liking or disliking the characters. and that's ultimately why people watch shows, cause of either love or hate for specific people on the show. if they're meh about everyone, it won't impact you if something happens.

available but not looked at.

i'd have tv back to nostalgia levels in no time just run them plots by me and run them characters by me.. and yall take it from there.

people's attention spans are LONGER believe it or not. they're coming back we need to be challenged.

so the whole wrap it up in 42 minutes shit is DONE.

why do we talk about the bridge, breaking bad, game of thrones, etc etc so much? cause the way it ends it gives us a full week to still be involved make predictions and wait to see what happens and then repeat the process...

shit is wrapped up in 42 minutes, 2 days after that the show is an afterthought then we gotta reboot and find a reason to care about this particular episode again

im not tripping at the look of the cast just the way they're out there. the hacker chick is a genius but breezy airhead fun loving... that's not consistent with someone intent on exposing super heroes and the government..

and the other main agent he recruited, he's too soft, as of the 1st episode, he needs to be more harvey from suits personality, if he's the best in is field and usually works alone he should look at everybody else as beneath him..that's consistent with his job description.

everyone else i have no problem with personality wise on the show.
i mean the twins had a couple hours to come up with the cure, we didn't see them come up with it or rush to where the standoff was or nothing. lol

They have chosen a tone and consistently been darker more treacherous and truly being a SPY show which I don't understand why it took them so LONG to understand.

Its as if they were deliberately dumbing it down...

this way it rewards consistent viewing builds tension stops being predictable allows them MUCH more flexibility and creates their OWN world apart from the movies yet allows for the movies to fit in seamlessly if they keep up the writing.

They also needed to get off the plane and let the cast BREATHE.

I can't say anything has been a SURPRISE but the twists and turns make it interesting.

I'll say this NOW they have my complete attention while watching.

I GUARANTEE they wish they could go back and redo almost ALL of the first 10 episodes.

I like where this is headed (I already can see where its going) and its all about the ride at this point.

 

[J Storm]

Missed the episode. Where can I watch it for free?

http://abc.go.com/

 

[playahaitian]

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[D'Evils]

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Bosses on Big Betrayal, Hydra Influences and What's Next

TVGuide.com got special Level 8 access from executive producers Jeffrey Bell and Jeph Loeb to get the scoo

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Agents-SHIELD-Spoilers-Hydra-Clairvoyant-1080215.aspx

How much planning did you have to do with those behind Captain America to make sure this all lined up?

Bell: A. Lot. [Laughs] What's wonderful is the Marvel movie universe is letting us play in their world. We talked with them at the beginning of what we wanted to do, which Marvel characters we wanted to tie in. They created this universe, so we've been talking about it with them the whole time. It was also why we knew from the beginning that what the movie reveals is Hydra is everywhere. If that were true, that meant it had to be true on our crew as well. It was exciting for us that, oh my God, we have a giant secret that we're keeping all season! But it was also hard that there was a snake in the grass that we had to build in and keep that secret the whole season.

Loeb: How much fun is it to, in the pilot, have Coulson look at Ward and say, "I haven't seen scores like this since Romanoff [Scarlett Johansson]," and have everyone in the audience go, "Oh, that's so great. He's a good spy." No, what that means is he's somebody who can work at the same level as somebody who's done nothing but fool people about her identity from the very beginning. The clues were there, you just didn't know where to look.

Is Ward going full-on villain now or are there any redeemable qualities left in him?

Bell: If you've seen Winter Soldier, the question is: Is the Winter Soldier [Sebastian Stan] really a bad guy or has he been programmed? We're not saying either way, but that's a question for us. In stories going forward, we're going to look more into Ward's relationship to Garrett, Ward's history, Ward's family, how Ward really does feel about the people on the team, how the people in the team feel about him and how they're split over what's happening. We think it creates a lot of great conflict. In our mind, Ward doesn't view himself as a villain any more than Garrett views himself as a villain. Hopefully they're really rich, entertaining characters who lead very complicated lives.

Loeb: That's very true to Marvel. Marvel always tries to find a way where the villain of the story sees himself as the hero of the story. It's the hero's story that has to be more compelling and something that people are rooting for in order to make it come to a satisfying end.

If people were to go back and watch past episodes, what breadcrumbs would they now spot knowing that Ward was actually a bad guy the whole time?

Bell: In upcoming episodes, we'll get into the agenda of why he was on the team. There's a very specific reason that he's there. In terms of Ward making himself invisible, Coulson loves projects. He likes to take people and fix them up. Ward was a project. Who was the biggest threat on the plane? Who could do the worst damage to him? May [Ming-Na Wen]. He seduced her and slept with her. Who was the unknown on the plane? Skye [Chloe Bennet]. He became her S.O. How do you endure yourself to a team? You do something selfless. He jumped out of the plane after Simmons [Elizabeth Henstridge]. If he had failed to save Simmons, he'd be OK. He had a parachute. But he did all these things along the way to neutralize or take the stink off or to bring people to his side in each of those instances. Those are just some of the examples. There was a method to the madness.

Loeb: Take a look at Episodes 6, 7 and 8. In Episode 6, he jumps out of a plane and saves Simmons. So he's now endeared himself to everybody there, but the one person he's not endeared himself to is Fitz (Iain De Caestecker). How are you going to fix that? Well, you go on a mission with Fitz and make Fitz feel like he's the hero of the story. Now, all of a sudden, the one guy who didn't like you likes you more than he ever did. Now there's a bromance going on. Then he gets a hold of the berserker staff and we see a very, very dark side of this guy. But, fortunately, it's not something that you hold onto very hard. When he winds up in bed with Lorelei (Elena Satine) and she talks about how different he is, again, those were little things along the way that hopefully when people and go back and look, they'll do, "Wow, it really was there."

Bell: Before you flip somebody, before you do something different with them, you have to get the audience to know them. Because we were on network, we brought Skye on as a civilian. She comes in with our audience who might not know the Marvel world. We grow her out, she becomes a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent. The idea is to bring the audience along with her so just as she's feeling part of the team, it all gets blown up.

John Garrett is actually the Clairvoyant. Will we see more of his operation and how Raina (Ruth Negga) fits into that?

Loeb: Everything that we've set up, we intend to pay off. We set up J. August Richards as a guy who wants to be a hero. He says in the pilot that this is his origin story, and he becomes Deathlok. Currently that's a character who's in the middle of a bunch of terrible stuff and we'd like to bring that to a resolution. We've brought questions about Skye and her past. We've brought up stuff about Centipede and Garrett and things about Coulson. These are all things that we feel that we set up from the beginning and our hope is to pay all of those off in a really satisfying way that also ties into the events of the last couple episodes you've seen.
Will we get a definitive answer as to what the Clairvoyant wants with Coulson?

Loeb: Everyone's motivations will be clear by the season finale. Whether or not their story is over is another question.

With Hydra taking more of a focus, are you getting away from the villain-of-the-week storylines, or will you continue to have procedural elements?

Loeb: We view ourselves as telling all different kinds of stories. Even our villains-of-the-week have all tied into our serialization. Quinn [David Conrad] showed up as a one-off. Even Akela Amador [Pascale Armand], who was in "Eye Spy," her eye technology tied into that.
Bell: When we told the berserker staff story and the story of the man who could control fire, it was all about moving forward with the Centipede program. The Centipede program clearly has something to do with the H word. Where that goes and how that ties together is something that you can look forward to.

Loeb: There is a serialized aspect, but we also want people to be able to show up and enjoy an episode. When we did the Asgardian story with Lorelei and Lady Sif [Jaimie Alexander], even though that was a standalone episode, emotionally it was all about Ward and May, where they've been and what happens to them. Ideally, whether it's plot or emotion, you'll always feel it being part of our continuity. There's a gazillion Marvel villains and good guys and we want to dip into that as often as possible.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Cuz...

you they pretty much JACKED your outline right?













They have chosen a tone and consistently been darker more treacherous and truly being a SPY show which I don't understand why it took them so LONG to understand.

Its as if they were deliberately dumbing it down...

this way it rewards consistent viewing builds tension stops being predictable allows them MUCH more flexibility and creates their OWN world apart from the movies yet allows for the movies to fit in seamlessly if they keep up the writing.

They also needed to get off the plane and let the cast BREATHE.

I can't say anything has been a SURPRISE but the twists and turns make it interesting.

I'll say this NOW they have my complete attention while watching.

I GUARANTEE they wish they could go back and redo almost ALL of the first 10 episodes.

I like where this is headed (I already can see where its going) and its all about the ride at this point.

yup they made a decision. what is this show going to be. is it going to be a light fluffy show that the kids come watch

or is it going to be a show all the adults who grew up on marvel watch loyally every week.

they could have and should have setup the characters in a completely different way. they didn't have to be bubblegum at any point. every circumstance could have been dire and brought the team together.. we'd be even MORE shocked and hurt and all of that stuff if we had been on an emotional ride with them from the beginning..

 

[playahaitian]

yup they made a decision. what is this show going to be. is it going to be a light fluffy show that the kids come watch

or is it going to be a show all the adults who grew up on marvel watch loyally every week.

they could have and should have setup the characters in a completely different way. they didn't have to be bubblegum at any point. every circumstance could have been dire and brought the team together.. we'd be even MORE shocked and hurt and all of that stuff if we had been on an emotional ride with them from the beginning..

stop giving it away for free cuz

you are completely and totally correct...

they would have built up so much emotional currency that they wouldn't even have to kill any major characters just the betrayals and mechanization would have been sufficient. And they waited to long to mine the rich history in the comics...

Marvel maybe more then DC in a way has so many well known side characters that they could have made sure that every single damn character even remotely involved in SHIELD comics would have some type of representation on the show.

The last few episodes are completely a Joss Whedon vibe (Angel, Dollhouse, Firefly)...I think now it was a slight mistake having him involved because he has so much on his plate and couldn't really oversee evverything

the fist episodes they were so unsure and family oriented the entire thing was off and they lost VALUABLE audience in the process...

I'm not saying this show should be the Shield (the other one) or The Americans or the Bridge. But the tone, speed, story arcs should have a been studied.

Hopefully the new Netflix series will learn from their maturation process.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

stop giving it away for free cuz

you are completely and totally correct...

they would have built up so much emotional currency that they wouldn't even have to kill any major characters just the betrayals and mechanization would have been sufficient. And they waited to long to mine the rich history in the comics...

Marvel maybe more then DC in a way has so many well known side characters that they could have made sure that every single damn character even remotely involved in SHIELD comics would have some type of representation on the show.

The last few episodes are completely a Joss Whedon vibe (Angel, Dollhouse, Firefly)...I think now it was a slight mistake having him involved because he has so much on his plate and couldn't really oversee evverything

the fist episodes they were so unsure and family oriented the entire thing was off and they lost VALUABLE audience in the process...

I'm not saying this show should be the Shield (the other one) or The Americans or the Bridge. But the tone, speed, story arcs should have a been studied.

Hopefully the new Netflix series will learn from their maturation process.

It should be those shows, with a super hero element.

the recent trend is making it seem really real so you get lost in the fantasy.

why was heroes so successful right out the gate? like a mega hit? cause it looked like it was real but it wasn't...

this could easily and should easily accomplish that. its starting to turn that way.

and the introduction of characters? waste.. we didn't learn anything real about them..just a standard bio resume but nothing valuable.. we learned about skye when she was shot.. we learned about fitz and simmons when they were in trouble.. learned about may with her back against the wall etc etc... not when we did a flashback.. when they were in real situations they showed who they were.. and then when you flip it..it hits us much harder because we can't believe it happened..

like

ward turning would've been like ah damn he was a good one if it had just been him fighting and running and gunning...

it becomes
when he reveals how much he likes (loves) skye and they're planning their future together...

 

[Dionysus Helios]

Without a doubt the best episode of the series. If they could have dropped a Red Skull cameo it would have put them on the map.

 

[playahaitian]

It should be those shows, with a super hero element.

the recent trend is making it seem really real so you get lost in the fantasy.

why was heroes so successful right out the gate? like a mega hit? cause it looked like it was real but it wasn't...

this could easily and should easily accomplish that. its starting to turn that way.

and the introduction of characters? waste.. we didn't learn anything real about them..just a standard bio resume but nothing valuable.. we learned about skye when she was shot.. we learned about fitz and simmons when they were in trouble.. learned about may with her back against the wall etc etc... not when we did a flashback.. when they were in real situations they showed who they were.. and then when you flip it..it hits us much harder because we can't believe it happened..

like

ward turning would've been like ah damn he was a good one if it had just been him fighting and running and gunning...

it becomes
when he reveals how much he likes (loves) skye and they're planning their future together...

OK I thought I was the only one who saw that

I yelled a the screen they're are 12 heavily armed guards, SHIELD itself is being taken over, people are being killed all over and your doing this NOW????

In the closet???



the editor should be fired for leaving it in, the director and cinematographer should be fired for filming it the actors should be fired for acting that scene out and the writer should be fired for writing it.

THey STILL couldnt get it they stil lwere trying for some romantic family oriented shit...

But I guarantee the writer is gonna say it was a deliberate move to show the betrayal as even MORE traumatic...

umm no.

It was forced heavy handed clumsy and false note.

This is the scene...

She tells him its suicide and tries to convince him not to go...

he kisses her PASSIONATELY! (not what we saw)

and without a word he steps out locks the door and we NEVER see the fight just Skye sitting behind the door eyes closed shut tight, crying and listening to absolute carnage...bullets coming through the walls smoke...

and a long silence...then a single shot.

Then someone tries to open the door she pushes back with all her might thinking she will be killed and a hand comes through the crack of the door, just as she is about to smash it she releases its HIS bloody hand and she clutches it tightly, hugging his hand and forearm...but they still can't see each other.

the camera shows both sides on the door and them just holding hands.

commercial.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

OK I thought I was the only one who saw that

I yelled a the screen they're are 12 heavily armed guards, SHIELD itself is being taken over, people are being killed all over and your doing this NOW????

In the closet???



the editor should be fired for leaving it in, the director and cinematographer should be fired for filming it the actors should be fired for acting that scene out and the writer should be fired for writing it.

THey STILL couldnt get it they stil lwere trying for some romantic family oriented shit...

But I guarantee the writer is gonna say it was a deliberate move to show the betrayal as even MORE traumatic...

umm no.

It was forced heavy handed clumsy and false note.

This is the scene...

She tells him its suicide and tries to convince him not to go...

he kisses her PASSIONATELY! (not what we saw)

and without a word he steps out locks the door and we NEVER see the fight just Skye sitting behind the door eyes closed shut tight, crying and listening to absolute carnage...bullets coming through the walls smoke...

and a long silence...then a single shot.

Then someone tries to open the door she pushes back with all her might thinking she will be killed and a hand comes through the crack of the door, just as she is about to smash it she releases its HIS bloody hand and she clutches it tightly, hugging his hand and forearm...but they still can't see each other.

the camera shows both sides on the door and them just holding hands.

commercial.

absolutely right.
Needed WAY MORE COWBELL.

 

[playahaitian]

absolutely right.
Needed WAY MORE COWBELL.

and the division by the door would be foreshadowing to the 'betrayal' later...

I feel like they think the audience isn't SMART enough to appreciate the little things...we don't need everything spelled out we CAN follow more then one storyline...

Remember how the The Bridge in the beginning was all over the place with different story lines it was culture clash, the border, racism, immigration, drugs/drug trafficking, life in Mexico, serial killer, etc.

and by the last 4 episodes EVERYTHING made sense?

THAT is what SHIELD needs.

WE ALL KNOW Skye and the solider would end up together you don;t have to have Ming Na repeat it all the time, their ACTORS let them ACT!!!

I know you don't watch Justified, Bills but that show has some of the BEST 'expression actors' on TV.

You can tell the WHOLE story by a look, lean, cough, tear and frown.

And SHIELD could do that...look at Deathlok, without speaking or seeing the previous episodes you can tell by his ONE eye the pain he is under.

 

[RunawaySlave]

I still hate Sky....I hope Ward prostitutes her little ass out to all the Hydra soldiers

 

[darth frosty]

I caught the Africa reference too...

But even bigger and closer... Did you guys catch when Agent Simmons and Agent Tripplet was in the room and simmons says "How do I know I can trust you?" and Tripplet replies, and I quote "You're the one who works with the zombie robot back from the dead!"... and as pointed out above Phil and Ward did give each other a look... I said a long time ago that Phil is the Vision, and from the comics the vision does start out as a double agent working in shield for Ultron... Ultron is around the corner. Am I still alone on this, why would Tripplet use those particular words???

Another thing... Ms Marvel... Human with Cree blood in her system. We already know Sky is an 084 who now just happens to have that dead Cree blood in her system... Am I alone on this???

Now this next part I'm a little fuzzy on, but wasn't it Ms Marvel that helped to stop the Vision when he was mopping the floor with the Avengers... Then they brought him back to the good side... Coulson is like a father figure to Sky, who better to check him and get him right. Sky converts someone but I don't think it will be Ward.

I peed myself 2 or 3 times reading this




HAIL GEEKDOM!!!

 

[HAR125LEM]

Even after "CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER", this show can't even maintain a level of suspense and writing that film had. Not even with a way lower budget.

The ONLY reason I've started watching again (other than the "CA" tie-in) is because of Bill Paxton. That's my Dude since "ALIENS"

The main characters have been so horribly written, that I just have no emotional investment in any of them. I even lost interest in Coulson. Which is too bad. That character is supposed to be our "tie-in" with film continuity. And I feel that he was just better off dead.

Yesterday's episode was just STUPID!
And it will be just a formality if this series gets another season.

 

[playahaitian]

I peed myself 2 or 3 times reading this




HAIL GEEKDOM!!!

they already cast the vision...and I thought they were talking about Deathlok?

 

[ThaBurgerPimp]

Without a doubt the best episode of the series. If they could have dropped a Red Skull cameo it would have put them on the map.

theyd probably have to recast Red Skull anyway since Hugo Weaving keeps saying he not interested in reprising the role..

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

They really stepped up the episodes...I stopped for awhile and did a marathon last week....

 

[Upgrade Dave]

I knew this would happen. From the beginning I knew AoS would be a set up for the movies, a tie in. We have to get that introduction but they been 'finding' Hydra like things all season. I was just thinking that Hydra would show up in Thor:TDW...had to wait until Cap.

Folks been sleeping on this. Calling it cheesy. I laugh. Like any good story you gotta get the players down first. This shit so deep, LOL. So many questions!

I caught the Africa reference too...

But even bigger and closer... Did you guys catch when Agent Simmons and Agent Tripplet was in the room and simmons says "How do I know I can trust you?" and Tripplet replies, and I quote "You're the one who works with the zombie robot back from the dead!"... and as pointed out above Phil and Ward did give each other a look... I said a long time ago that Phil is the Vision, and from the comics the vision does start out as a double agent working in shield for Ultron... Ultron is around the corner. Am I still alone on this, why would Tripplet use those particular words???

Another thing... Ms Marvel... Human with Cree blood in her system. We already know Sky is an 084 who now just happens to have that dead Cree blood in her system... Am I alone on this???

Now this next part I'm a little fuzzy on, but wasn't it Ms Marvel that helped to stop the Vision when he was mopping the floor with the Avengers... Then they brought him back to the good side... Coulson is like a father figure to Sky, who better to check him and get him right. Sky converts someone but I don't think it will be Ward.

Might be on to something with Skye/Ms. Marvel but not Coulson/Vision.

yea i stopped posting in here. but i kept watching.

the best part is they did exactly what i said they should do. build a storyline that lasts past 1 ep and go darker.

that was all they needed to do.

good job

They really stepped up the episodes...I stopped for awhile and did a marathon last week....

A marathon is a good idea because you get a second look at the earlier episodes and how things that happened in those all led to the finale, particularly Hand thinking Coulson was with HYDRA.

The Ward was surprising. They did all the stuff at the end to suggest a turn (his little diatribe about wanting to be there when they lock him up and his glance at Coulson) but I just didn't think they would pull the trigger on having one of their central characters flip. Cable shows do shit like that, not network shows.

 

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The Only 5 Things You Need to Know to Start Watching ‘Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D​

With only a few weeks left in season 1, it's not too late to start watching "Marvel, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." In fact, you can start at anytime, all you need is this quick sheet that will illuminate you on what is essential to know.
After that, grab some popcorn and soda, sit back and enjoy the show tonight at 8 p.m. EST on ABC.

1 - S.H.I.E.L.D. stands for Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement, and Logistics Division
The agents don’t have super powers, but they live in a universe where some do (think Thor and Captain America). The agents make up a powerful organization tasked with saving the world from threatening, supernatural events, but their lack of super powers makes them the underdogs.

2 - You don’t need to have seen all of the Marvel movies to get “Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.”
The series works in tandem with other Marvel films, both past and upcoming. The S.H.I.E.L.D. agents operate adjacent to other Marvel agents. The casts overlap at points, but S.H.I.E.L.D. is mostly made up of new characters.

3 - The Main Players
Agent Phil Coulson leads the team (check out his story below). Melinda May is pretty much his number two – a pilot who specializes in weapons. Grant Ward is kick-ass specialist (not to mention smoking hot) who was sleeping with May. But Ward seems to have a thing for Skye. She’s a hacker whose birth parents had a link to S.H.I.E.L.D. and she was brought on board when they learned of her computer skills. Leo Fitz and Jemma Simmons are the medical and technical brains behind it all.

4 - Agent Phil Coulson Died -- But Was Brought Back to Life
If you saw “The Avengers,” Agent Coulson appeared to have died. Long story short, Coulson was basically brainwashed into thinking he was in Tahiti when he was actually getting saved by some super powerful medicine. That same medicine was also used to save Skye when she was shot in the abdomen.

5 - HYDRA is Really, Really Bad
HYDRA’s the fictional terrorist organization the S.H.I.E.L.D. agents are up against. Their missions to spread death and destruction, and they are trying to take over and eliminate S.H.I.E.L.D. The big question right now is who is HYDRA and who is S.H.I.E.L.D.

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