Official Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Discussion (12/1/17 @8PM)

darth frosty

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I hate to say it... The real reason they are not really incorporating the movie and TV like they should is money.

It's one thing to start a lil spin off show with a throwaway character like coulson, it's another when that show exceeds expectations and you looking at having to pay these cats real money. :money:
 

darth frosty

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True but they are different branches and while they may be willing to pay big money to made actors for the big screen, TV may be where they look to cut cost /budget.
 

futureshock

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Agents of SHIELD

Starting this fall, the show will air Tuesday nights at 10pm, an hour later than usual. ABC executives describe the moves as allowing the show to go darker and more violent with its content, the Tuesday 10:00 pm timeslot has been what the Hollywood Reporter calls “long-troubled” and “a cancellation target for the last several seasons.”


http://io9.gizmodo.com/theres-good-news-and-bad-news-about-the-future-of-marve-1777151585




wtf.... :smh:


Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Here's Proof That ABC and Marvel Don't Care About the Show

By Kaitlin Thomas

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Captain America: Civil War drawing in so much money it's easy to imagine that the higher ups at Marvel spend most of their days splayed out on piles of cash like Huell from Breaking Bad. On the TV side, The CW has found relative success in cultivating an audience for its DC Comics superhero-themed dramas Arrow and The Flash,and Netflix has gained subscribers withJessica Jones and Daredevil. But while superheroes and comic-based properties are flourishing elsewhere, ABC has struggled with its Marvel properties.

Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is not a terribly deep show, nor is it a great show, but it has had its moments over the course of three low-rated seasons on ABC (the just completed Season 3 averaged 3.4 million viewers and a 1.2 rating among adults ages 18-to-49). For most of its run, those moments have been the result of surprising betrayals, emotional longing, and trips to other planets, all of which pivoted around characters while also frequently pushing the plot forward. But on a weekly basis, especially in the case of the most recent half-season, the show has suffered narratively, either from ill-defined villains and low stakes, or by prioritizing story over character one too many times. But perhaps the show's biggest crime isn't that it's a fundamentally bad show—because it's not!—but rather that it's become a boring show with little connection to the larger Marvel Cinematic Universe. And ABC knows this and has apparently given up entirely on making it work.

On Tuesday, when ABC released its fall 2016 schedule, it was revealed that the network had bumped the series from the 9pm hour, where it aired during Seasons 2 and 3, back to 10pm, a timeslot that has notoriously killed every single show the network has scheduled there since Body of Proof and Private Practice ended in early 2013. Of the six scripted series that have aired in the timeslot since, only Forever—which averaged 4.93 million viewers and a 1.12 rating—lasted a full season, and it was canceled despite being a charming and well-liked, if fairly vanilla, series because it was low-rated and produced by a non-Disney studio. Moving Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. back an hour in its fourth season could be seen as the network taking a chance that a show with a proven track record—even if that track record is only a few but loyal viewers—will fare better than a brand new endeavor. Or it could be the network killing the show quietly.

It's probable that the fans who've stuck with the struggling show this long will follow it anywhere, even the dumpster fire that is Tuesdays at 10pm. But next season, Coulson and the rest of the gang will be up against NCIS: New Orleans (which averaged 12.97 million viewers, 1.75 rating this most recent season) on CBS and Chicago Fire (8.0 million, 1.75, also its most recent season average) on NBC (Fox and The CW both air local news in the 10pm hour). However, this programming decision could also be seen as the network finally having given up on the struggling series and putting it out to pasture by scheduling it in a ratings black hole so that when the show is finally canceled next year, the network has a really solid case. The fact that the show—a spy series that exists within a comic book setting and features people with powers—is following a new two-hour family comedy block that does not really mesh tonally with S.H.I.E.L.D., doesn't exactly instill confidence.

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When it premiered in the fall of 2013, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. was Marvel's attempt to take over the world expand its influence in another medium, having already made significant movements toward conquering the global box office with films like The Avengers, which was the highest grossing film of 2012. The show's premiere more or less coincided with the beginning of Phase Two of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which included films likeIron Man 3, Captain America: The Winter Soldier, and Guardians of the Galaxy (let's just pretend Thor: The Dark World didn't happen). And while Phase Two really saw Marvel's dominance at the box office, the television side of things never really took off in the same way.

After a well-received debut guided by Joss Whedon, the creator of beloved series likeBuffy the Vampire Slayer and Firefly, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. struggled to engage viewers after the reins were passed to showrunners Jed Whedon, Maurissa Tancharoen, andJeffrey Bell. In that first season, because it existed within the same universe as Marvel's films, the show was forced to tread water until Captain America: The Winter Soldier blew up the show's titular agency and revealed the presence of Hydra two-thirds of the way through the season. This development finally allowed the series to break out and resulted in one of its finest hours to date, the episode "Turn, Turn, Turn," which revealed a major betrayal from Agent Grant Ward (Brett Dalton), a previously stock TV character with little definition who went on to become the series' most interesting character for the rest of that first season. Unfortunately for ABC and Marvel, by that point, a sizable chunk of the show's audience had given up on the series, and they never returned.

But ABC kept trying to make Marvel programming work. In 2014, under former President of ABC Entertainment Paul Lee, the network also greenlit a second live-action Marvel series with ties to the MCU. Marvel's Agent Carter, a post-WWII drama developed following the positive reception of an Agent Carter-focused one-shot, saw Hayley Atwellreprise her character from Captain America: The First Avenger and followed her adventures as the lone female agent of the Strategic Scientific Reserve, the precursor to S.H.I.E.L.D. Despite increasingly positive reviews over the show's first season in 2015, it averaged just 5.02 million viewers and a 1.57 rating. It earned a surprise renewal despite its low ratings and returned for an acclaimed second season in 2016, again as a "gap show" between S.H.I.E.L.D.'s fall and spring half-seasons, and it performed even poorer than it had the first time around. Earlier this month, ABC also passed on—for the second time—a potential Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. spin-off centered around two of the show's most beloved characters, Bobbi Morse (a.k.a. Mockingbird) and Lance Hunter, both preexisting comic book characters.

Despite the potential that exists for corporate synergy—The Walt Disney Company, which owns ABC, acquired Marvel Entertainment and all of its subsidiaries in 2009—it no longer looks as if ABC, under current president Channing Dungey (Lee was forced out in February), cares about making Marvel TV shows work, especially since the two shows they've produced have largely proven to be unsuccessful in bringing a bit of Marvel's box office success to the small screen. Part of that stems from the fact that, despite Marvel's continued insistence that "it's all connected," Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has no effect on the events of Marvel's films, something that has been hand-waved away with the excuse that the Avengers don't know Phil Coulson (Clark Gregg) is alive, his character having been killed by Loki in The Avengers but brought back to life for the series. And although The Winter Soldier had a major influence on the trajectory of the show's narrative at the end of that first season, subsequent films have had little effect beyond name dropping characters and referencing major events. To make matters worse, the films also ignored a key piece of the show's third season, which was the sudden awakening of Inhumans all over Earth thanks to some tainted fish. The Avengers obviously deal in much larger problems, but one would think the sudden appearance of a great number of powered individuals, many of whom struggle with the inability to control said powers at first, would at least warrant a casual, if ultimately irrelevant, mention.

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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. star Chloe Bennet, who plays lead character Daisy Johnson,recently called attention to this problem at a fan convention. "The Marvel Cinematic Universe loves to pretend that everything is connected, but then they don’t acknowledge our show at all," she said, when asked if she would like to appear in one of the MCU's films. "People who make movies for Marvel, why don’t you acknowledge what happens on our show? Why don’t you guys go ask them that? 'Cause they don’t seem to care!"

Kevin Feige, president of Marvel Studios, told io9 in April that crossing over was really a matter of working out timing before further acknowledging that the films are planned so far in advance that it's not possible to tie-in the events of the series. Which is a nice way of saying that it's never going to happen.

And so without ABC support and without interest from Marvel, what will become ofAgents of S.H.I.E.L.D. in Season 4? The show's ratings are already pretty low, and the quality of the story suffered once the show returned from his midseason hiatus. We know that S.H.I.E.L.D. can produce intense, adrenaline-pumping drama when it wants to put in the work, and so, if this next season is the end of the road, the writers should definitely put in the effort to craft stories revolving around the characters we already know and whose futures we are invested in, rather than spending all their time on poorly-constructed villains who ultimately don't matter. The final moments of the Season 3 finale hinted that a major change was coming for the series, so here's hoping it's enough.

http://www.tv.com/shows/marvels-age...of-shield-season-4-final-season-146358913298/
 

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Too bad. Again though, I think the fact that it was Wheedon's baby after the success of Avengers...and the fact that there seemed to be some saltiness between him and Marvel after Avengers 2 is part of why Marvel kinda don't give a fuck. After this show ends they won't have anymore dealings together if I'm not mistaken.
 

futureshock

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Too bad. Again though, I think the fact that it was Wheedon's baby after the success of Avengers...and the fact that there seemed to be some saltiness between him and Marvel after Avengers 2 is part of why Marvel kinda don't give a fuck. After this show ends they won't have anymore dealings together if I'm not mistaken.

Damn politics!
 

Winslow Wong

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I liked this Seasons AoS but I am really pissed that Marvel is making the DC mistake of separating the movies from the TV world. One of the best and most creative things to happen was the transition from CA Winter Soldier to AoS and the takeover of Hydra on the show - like in the movie there were little hint at Hydra deep roots in SHIELD. Now after CA Civil War - we get a news report on TV and nothing else - golden opportunities are not being taken advantage of and its all because of studio execs - this is WB and DC bS all over again - Success isn't written in Stone but Tissue Paper with Vanishing Ink what may seem to be permanent is not unless it consistently replenished.
 

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UnREAL’s B.J. Britt on Being TV’s First Black Bachelor, Getting in Shape, and Watching Reality TV With New Perspective

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B.J. Britt is having trouble separating from his UnREAL alter ego Darius Beck, the new suitor in the Lifetime series’s fictional reality show,Everlasting. Darius is both a big flirt and a gentleman, and wooing 26 single women looking for love is at times overwhelming for him. It can be a bit much for Britt, 34, too.

“Twenty-six ladies! I had to learn all their names,” Britt laughs. “You call out names, you stand on a line, you pick girls. It's like, Oh my God, is this my life right now? No, it's not my life. It's Darius's life. It’s a little hard to shut him off sometimes.”

In the second-season premiere viewers learned that Darius, an NFL quarterback, has agreed to be the next Everlasting suitor to rehabilitate his image after he and a female reporter exchanged some heated words on live television. But that’s only the first of many turns UnREAL will take in season two, which began Monday night. Vulture spoke to Britt (Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.) on the Vancouver set of the series about how he feels being TV’s first black bachelor, and the demanding physical transformation the role required.

Darius loves the ladies. What else can you tell us about him?
Very confident, very cocky, but overall great values. As a quarterback, his job is to keep his image squeaky clean. You know, the rules are different for him especially being the first black football player of his team, and so he gets in a little situation with the media and, um, not the best of situations. He’s convinced by his cousin, who is his manager, to doEverlasting to clean up his image. Little does he know he threw him right into an all-out-war between Chet and Rachel and Quinn.

Had you watched the show before you auditioned?
I knew nothing about the show. It was the last audition I had of last year and I wanted to end the year on a great note. Before I met with the casting, I thought, Let me do my homework, let me watch like one or two episodes and know a little bit about what the show is about. I literally watched all ten in like 48 hours. I was like, "Oh my God! This is amazing! ... What's my role again?" My agent said, "Oh you'd be the suitor." I was like, "Shut up! That would be so dope. Yo, this is what I want. I want this. I want this."

What was your audition? What was the scene about?
The media frenzy that I get into. I'm all hyped coming off the field and then the interviewer comes up and she asks me some questions, and I make a little comment that I maybe shouldn't have made to a female. So you know, she spins it. And I didn't mean it that way but she spins it a certain way to make it look like I disrespected a female. So I have to go on the show now to show the world, Hey I love females. What are you talking about? I'm a gentleman. I have a mother. My mother taught me that.That's exactly what I auditioned with. And then when I had to test, they were telling me the network wanted me to take my shirt off at the end. I was like, I work out, that's no problem. So I took my shirt off.

They didn’t even try to hide that they wanted to see all of you.
No, they're like, He's a football player, dammit. He better be on point. It was so funny because I was like, Man, look, I just left the gym. I don't care. A day later they were like, "You got the role but you need to work out." I was like, wait, what?!

Were they joking?
They were not joking. Yo, I’m talking about my ego went from here [raises his hand up] to playing kickball with the curb, handball with the curb. I'm telling you. My boy Deon used to play football so he was like, "If you want to get my size you can work out with me." I was like, fuck you.

Is that what they meant? They wanted you to bulk up?
Yeah. They wanted me to bulk up. They wanted me more defined. I'm a good size now.

[Vulture asked to co-creator and executive producer Sarah Gertrude Shapiro to explain why producers told Britt to hit the gym. Her reply: “I didn’t realize how much that traumatized him! He took his shirt off and it was fine but, you know, he’s playing a pro athlete, so it’s just a different level. It wasn’t about being sexy. It was about being in character. We were auditioning real NFL players, too. There was a moment when we thought we might cast an actual NFL player. In terms of being a quarterback, it’s a really intense lifestyle when your body is your living. So we just needed him to get a little bigger.”]

How hard did you work on bulking up?
I worked out with my boy Deon for like two hours a day, six days a week. My meals changed. Everything just changed completely, and I definitely see a difference. I'm not mad at them making me get back in the gym. I eat every two and a half hours. I'm always eating. I used to do abs every single day. Three different sets. Now I do abs once a week, and my abs are so much different and so much more defined.

That was the only note they gave you?
Yeah, that was the only thing I had to change. Loved his read, everything was great, but he's a little chunky. That's basically what they said. I was like, Damn, really? Okay. Whatever. I'll do what I have to do for the role, but it's definitely made eating and the gym a chore as opposed to it being fun. I die when I see people eating pizza.

The show is using the first black suitor as a prism to discuss racism. How do you feel about how the race issue is being treated?
Everybody has their own story line. Of course, one of the characters is referred to as a racist. I don't want to make this season just about racism, because it's so many other different elements that they're going to bring to this. This is just one of the things everybody is really talking about. Not only is he a black suitor, but The Bachelor has been on for 20-something seasons and they've never had a black bachelor.

Did you know much about the reality-show world before you got the job?
I did watch The Bachelor once or twice. I don't watch too much reality TV. I don't even really watch TV. Honestly, I watch Bob's Burgers. I like cartoons. Really, I do. I like Bob's Burgers, Family Guy, The Cleveland Show, stuff like that.

Has the way the producers deal with the contestants surprised you?
Yeah, but it's funny now when I go back, now I want to see about reality shows. It rips the covers off of reality TV. I'm like, Oh my God. I know she was prepped for that. They set her up. They so set her up. It just makes me look at it closely now. I didn't even realize they build these sets on reality TV. I didn't even know that. I was so naive. I thought all that was real because it's reality TV, but our reality TV is basically scripted, too. There is no reality TV.

Yeah, they're building stories.
One thing about UnREAL — it deals with a lot of things that are going on right now in the world, in a pop cultural kind of way. It talks about racism, or not eating, suicide. It talks about all these different things that reality shows don't touch on, but it brings it to light and it does it in a way where you can talk about it at the dinner table, and [it's] not a bad thing to bring up. It makes you have a conversation about it. Especially in this season with Darius, being the first black suitor. Being the first black anything or just the first anything makes it that much bigger. UnREAL is doing things that people haven't done on TV before. It's just a great project to be a part of. They're breaking ground on stuff that's just been talked about behind closed doors. Now it's bringing them to light.

What can you do to ensure that Darius comes back for season three?
Probably more shirtless scenes, I’m sure. I was going to take my shirt off but ...

No, don’t. This is not Jersey Shore.
[Laughs.] Okay!Watch the show then.
 

shamone

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True but they are different branches and while they may be willing to pay big money to made actors for the big screen, TV may be where they look to cut cost /budget.
kein fiege made that move to get the movie division from up under marvel's head, who's cheap as shit, and got it moved under disney to get freedom and more money to pay actors and things of that nature.
 

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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Here's Proof That ABC and Marvel Don't Care About the Show

By Kaitlin Thomas

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Captain America: Civil War drawing in so much money it's easy to imagine that the higher ups at Marvel spend most of their days splayed out on piles of cash like Huell from Breaking Bad. On the TV side, The CW has found relative success in cultivating an audience for its DC Comics superhero-themed dramas Arrow and The Flash,and Netflix has gained subscribers withJessica Jones and Daredevil. But while superheroes and comic-based properties are flourishing elsewhere, ABC has struggled with its Marvel properties.

Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is not a terribly deep show, nor is it a great show, but it has had its moments over the course of three low-rated seasons on ABC (the just completed Season 3 averaged 3.4 million viewers and a 1.2 rating among adults ages 18-to-49). For most of its run, those moments have been the result of surprising betrayals, emotional longing, and trips to other planets, all of which pivoted around characters while also frequently pushing the plot forward. But on a weekly basis, especially in the case of the most recent half-season, the show has suffered narratively, either from ill-defined villains and low stakes, or by prioritizing story over character one too many times. But perhaps the show's biggest crime isn't that it's a fundamentally bad show—because it's not!—but rather that it's become a boring show with little connection to the larger Marvel Cinematic Universe. And ABC knows this and has apparently given up entirely on making it work.

On Tuesday, when ABC released its fall 2016 schedule, it was revealed that the network had bumped the series from the 9pm hour, where it aired during Seasons 2 and 3, back to 10pm, a timeslot that has notoriously killed every single show the network has scheduled there since Body of Proof and Private Practice ended in early 2013. Of the six scripted series that have aired in the timeslot since, only Forever—which averaged 4.93 million viewers and a 1.12 rating—lasted a full season, and it was canceled despite being a charming and well-liked, if fairly vanilla, series because it was low-rated and produced by a non-Disney studio. Moving Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. back an hour in its fourth season could be seen as the network taking a chance that a show with a proven track record—even if that track record is only a few but loyal viewers—will fare better than a brand new endeavor. Or it could be the network killing the show quietly.

It's probable that the fans who've stuck with the struggling show this long will follow it anywhere, even the dumpster fire that is Tuesdays at 10pm. But next season, Coulson and the rest of the gang will be up against NCIS: New Orleans (which averaged 12.97 million viewers, 1.75 rating this most recent season) on CBS and Chicago Fire (8.0 million, 1.75, also its most recent season average) on NBC (Fox and The CW both air local news in the 10pm hour). However, this programming decision could also be seen as the network finally having given up on the struggling series and putting it out to pasture by scheduling it in a ratings black hole so that when the show is finally canceled next year, the network has a really solid case. The fact that the show—a spy series that exists within a comic book setting and features people with powers—is following a new two-hour family comedy block that does not really mesh tonally with S.H.I.E.L.D., doesn't exactly instill confidence.

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When it premiered in the fall of 2013, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. was Marvel's attempt to take over the world expand its influence in another medium, having already made significant movements toward conquering the global box office with films like The Avengers, which was the highest grossing film of 2012. The show's premiere more or less coincided with the beginning of Phase Two of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which included films likeIron Man 3, Captain America: The Winter Soldier, and Guardians of the Galaxy (let's just pretend Thor: The Dark World didn't happen). And while Phase Two really saw Marvel's dominance at the box office, the television side of things never really took off in the same way.

After a well-received debut guided by Joss Whedon, the creator of beloved series likeBuffy the Vampire Slayer and Firefly, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. struggled to engage viewers after the reins were passed to showrunners Jed Whedon, Maurissa Tancharoen, andJeffrey Bell. In that first season, because it existed within the same universe as Marvel's films, the show was forced to tread water until Captain America: The Winter Soldier blew up the show's titular agency and revealed the presence of Hydra two-thirds of the way through the season. This development finally allowed the series to break out and resulted in one of its finest hours to date, the episode "Turn, Turn, Turn," which revealed a major betrayal from Agent Grant Ward (Brett Dalton), a previously stock TV character with little definition who went on to become the series' most interesting character for the rest of that first season. Unfortunately for ABC and Marvel, by that point, a sizable chunk of the show's audience had given up on the series, and they never returned.

But ABC kept trying to make Marvel programming work. In 2014, under former President of ABC Entertainment Paul Lee, the network also greenlit a second live-action Marvel series with ties to the MCU. Marvel's Agent Carter, a post-WWII drama developed following the positive reception of an Agent Carter-focused one-shot, saw Hayley Atwellreprise her character from Captain America: The First Avenger and followed her adventures as the lone female agent of the Strategic Scientific Reserve, the precursor to S.H.I.E.L.D. Despite increasingly positive reviews over the show's first season in 2015, it averaged just 5.02 million viewers and a 1.57 rating. It earned a surprise renewal despite its low ratings and returned for an acclaimed second season in 2016, again as a "gap show" between S.H.I.E.L.D.'s fall and spring half-seasons, and it performed even poorer than it had the first time around. Earlier this month, ABC also passed on—for the second time—a potential Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. spin-off centered around two of the show's most beloved characters, Bobbi Morse (a.k.a. Mockingbird) and Lance Hunter, both preexisting comic book characters.

Despite the potential that exists for corporate synergy—The Walt Disney Company, which owns ABC, acquired Marvel Entertainment and all of its subsidiaries in 2009—it no longer looks as if ABC, under current president Channing Dungey (Lee was forced out in February), cares about making Marvel TV shows work, especially since the two shows they've produced have largely proven to be unsuccessful in bringing a bit of Marvel's box office success to the small screen. Part of that stems from the fact that, despite Marvel's continued insistence that "it's all connected," Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has no effect on the events of Marvel's films, something that has been hand-waved away with the excuse that the Avengers don't know Phil Coulson (Clark Gregg) is alive, his character having been killed by Loki in The Avengers but brought back to life for the series. And although The Winter Soldier had a major influence on the trajectory of the show's narrative at the end of that first season, subsequent films have had little effect beyond name dropping characters and referencing major events. To make matters worse, the films also ignored a key piece of the show's third season, which was the sudden awakening of Inhumans all over Earth thanks to some tainted fish. The Avengers obviously deal in much larger problems, but one would think the sudden appearance of a great number of powered individuals, many of whom struggle with the inability to control said powers at first, would at least warrant a casual, if ultimately irrelevant, mention.

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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. star Chloe Bennet, who plays lead character Daisy Johnson,recently called attention to this problem at a fan convention. "The Marvel Cinematic Universe loves to pretend that everything is connected, but then they don’t acknowledge our show at all," she said, when asked if she would like to appear in one of the MCU's films. "People who make movies for Marvel, why don’t you acknowledge what happens on our show? Why don’t you guys go ask them that? 'Cause they don’t seem to care!"

Kevin Feige, president of Marvel Studios, told io9 in April that crossing over was really a matter of working out timing before further acknowledging that the films are planned so far in advance that it's not possible to tie-in the events of the series. Which is a nice way of saying that it's never going to happen.

And so without ABC support and without interest from Marvel, what will become ofAgents of S.H.I.E.L.D. in Season 4? The show's ratings are already pretty low, and the quality of the story suffered once the show returned from his midseason hiatus. We know that S.H.I.E.L.D. can produce intense, adrenaline-pumping drama when it wants to put in the work, and so, if this next season is the end of the road, the writers should definitely put in the effort to craft stories revolving around the characters we already know and whose futures we are invested in, rather than spending all their time on poorly-constructed villains who ultimately don't matter. The final moments of the Season 3 finale hinted that a major change was coming for the series, so here's hoping it's enough.

http://www.tv.com/shows/marvels-age...of-shield-season-4-final-season-146358913298/


now that I think of it?

I think this is a huge MISDIRECT by Marvel...

would any of you be surprised?
 

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If they bring in Ghost Rider...

:itsawrap:

I think they are building up Daisy's New Secret Warriors with Hellfire taking the place of Lincoln.
Bad guy turned good storyline.

He'll probadly be a series regular.

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They saving Ghost Rider for Netflix with Blade, Moon Knight
 
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BlackArsenic

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I think they are building up Daisy's New Secret Warriors with Hellfire taking the place of Lincoln.
Bad guy turned good storyline.

He'll probadly be a series regular.

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They saving Ghost Rider for Netflix with Blade, Moon Knight

Wait. Blade and ghost rider going to netflix ?
 

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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 4 Casting Call Fuels Ghost Rider Rumors









The Marvel Comics properties have been dominating the big screen for many years now, but the small screen is a different story. DC Comics has been dominating television on the CW Network with series like Arrow, The Flash and now Supergirl. Now that Agent Carter has been cancelled, the ABC network series Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is the flagship representation on network television for the Marvel Cinematic Universe, at least until Damage Control debuts.

The move thus far has been to keep the major characters on the big screen and over on Netflix, with hit darker-toned hit series like Daredevil, The Punisher and Jessica Jones. Now, an SDCC teaser ad and a casting call are creating real buzz about the possibility of Ghost Rider being added to the fourth season of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.



It would be a huge move to add a character like Ghost Rider to a network television series, instead of moving the character right into a darker, more adult themed series on Netflix. The inclusion of a major and recognizable Marvel hero can only serve to elevate Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. season four with audiences. That coupled with the new later time slot of 10/9c could allow for some edgier content. The only question is, which Ghost Rider are we going to see, if any? A new casting call has leaked for the series that points towards a modern incarnation of the supernatural anti-hero.

As noted by Comic Book, the casting call has gone out for a pair of latino brothers with one characterized as “the most dangerous person in the room” and the other brother is “paralyzed in a wheelchair”. This could point to the 2014 comic book incarnation of Ghost Rider, a Mexican-American named Robbie Reyes. Reyes drives a flaming black muscle car instead of the traditional motorcycle and carries his own distinctive look as Ghost Rider. He also happens to have a disabled brother named Gabe. It could be that using this modern version of Ghost Rider is Marvel’s compromise, as it still leaves the more traditional Johnny Blaze incarnation open for an adult-themed series down the road.






The Johnny Blaze Ghost Rider debuted in Marvel Spotlight #5 back in 1972. Created by Gary Friedrich, the name first belonged to Carter Slade, the Phantom Rider, in 1967. The Ghost Rider legacy has grown over the years, gaining immense popularity throughout the 1990s and spawning two Nicholas Cage-starring feature films, Ghost Rider (2007) and Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance (2012).

The big heroes, like the Avengers, may not make appearances on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., but the impact of events, likeCaptain America: Civil War, may have still a ripple effect on the characters in season four. If it turns out that the San Diego Comic Con teasers featuring the Hellfire chains do mean that Ghost Rider is coming to television, it could turn the entire tone of the series and make it a must-see part of the Marvel Universe.



http://screenrant.com/agents-shield-season-4-ghost-rider/
 

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AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 4 Casting A "Very Attractive" Robot And A Pair Of Dangerous Brothers



We saw Dr. Radcliffe uploading his LMD Phase 1 at the end of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 3, and this September we'll be introduced to a robotic take on AIDA, along with 2 more mysterious characters...


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Hot robot fans will be happy to hear that ABC are in the process of casting a "very attractive" actress to play AIDA (Artificial Intelligence Data Analyser) on season 4 of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.. In the season 3 finale we saw Dr. Radcliffe uploading the Life Model Decoy and interacting with this mysterious AI, who readers of Marvel's earlySquadron Supreme comics should be familiar with.

Now, TV Line reports that AIDA will be a recurring character in season 4, and she'll be joined by two Latino brothers who sound like they (well, one of 'em anyway) might well be Inhumans.

"LMDs are happening. Specifically, the ABC series at this time is looking to cast the recurring role of Aida, a “very attractive” robot (because after all, why make a homely one?) who moves about quite naturally but speaks a bit formally, like Iron Man’s Jarvis. Also to be introduced in Season 4: a pair of Latino brothers, one of whom is always the most dangerous person in the room, the other paralyzed in a wheelchair."

Will AIDA be an asset to the team, or an Ultron-like villain? Any ideas about the brothers? All will be revealed when Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.returns for its fourth season on September 20.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/agent...casting-a-very-attractive-robot-and-a-a143074
 

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There's been a lot of speculation about Ghost Rider showing up in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s fourth season, and now a new report claims to shed some light on which version of the character we're going to see.
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Marvel Studios quietly regained the rights to Ghost Rider shortly after the dismal critical and commercial performance of Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance, and the character has been gathering dust on a shelf ever since. Chances are that not even Kevin Feige could convince moviegoers to give the demonic superhero another chance, so what can be done with him? A Netflix series sounds good.

Unfortunately, that isn't happening. According to Latino-Review, Ghost Rider is definitely coming to the fourth season of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., something which has been rumoured for some time now. However, as many fans already figured out after a casting call was sent out looking for "a pair of Latino brothers, one of whom is always the most dangerous person in the room, the other paralyzed in a wheelchair," we won't be getting the Johnny Blaze or Danny Ketch version of the Spirit of Vengeance.

Instead, it's going to be Robbie Reyes from the short lived series which saw the character using a muscle car instead of a motorbike. There's no word on whether the series will delve into his ties to the supernatural or if he'll just be an Inhuman, but hopefully his appearance here doesn't close the door on a return to live-action for the classic version. If this report is accurate, expect confirmation soon.


http://www.comicbookmovie.com/agent...der-is-definitely-coming-to-agents-of-a143684
 
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