Official Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Discussion (12/1/17 @8PM)

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It was so tightly wound with the MCU, and at the same time managed to be good on a personal level. Then they started taking liberties with the plots, going grandiose with characters and stories that cant even fit into the MCU. Not to mention the seasons/plots that got derailed due to the Inhumans flopping. And that time shit the6 did, smh
 

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Da fuck :angry:?! Why are Yo-Yo & Mack treated like they were just supporting characters? They were core members of the team for 4+ seasons. I spit on this garbage! I'm talkin' that clear-your-chest-and-snort-a-few-times type of loogie. How pitiful :curse: !
 

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It was so tightly wound with the MCU, and at the same time managed to be good on a personal level. Then they started taking liberties with the plots, going grandiose with characters and stories that cant even fit into the MCU. Not to mention the seasons/plots that got derailed due to the Inhumans flopping. And that time shit the6 did, smh

were you watching with US. fam?
 

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I understand Fiege been trying to distance himself from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D and Agent Carter for years but he can't act like the both of them didn't have no impact on the timeline. Some of the stuff that was in the movies were introduced on the shows.
 

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I understand Fiege been trying to distance himself from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D and Agent Carter for years but he can't act like the both of them didn't have no impact on the timeline. Some of the stuff that was in the movies were introduced on the shows.


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I understand Fiege been trying to distance himself from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D and Agent Carter for years but he can't act like the both of them didn't have no impact on the timeline. Some of the stuff that was in the movies were introduced on the shows.


I am NOT happy about this at ALL.

AT ALL.
 

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I understand Fiege been trying to distance himself from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D and Agent Carter for years but he can't act like the both of them didn't have no impact on the timeline. Some of the stuff that was in the movies were introduced on the shows.


yrs the f*ck it is.

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I don't understand, why Fiege have this thing towards the TV shows. I mean I understand him and Perlmutter had beef but still there's no reason to kick it out of the universe.

And for lonesome that has such a strong reputation about being loyal to actors and staff

this to me seems kinda vindictive against an innocent party.
 

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Da fuck :angry:?! Why are Yo-Yo & Mack treated like they were just supporting characters? They were core members of the team for 4+ seasons. I spit on this garbage! I'm talkin' that clear-your-chest-and-snort-a-few-times type of loogie. How pitiful :curse: !


If you blink you will literally miss Mac completely. Which is what happened, I had to watch this shit twice.
Total disrespect
 

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Ok I can see if Fiege wants to reboot the characters and tie them into the MCU officially...

Marvel should just rebrand the shows as part of "Marvel's Multiverse"... Simple...

Agents of Shield, Agent Carter, Cloak and Dagger, and Runaways happened in an alternate universe or timeline is easier to explain... Then saying they never happened at all...
 
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And for lonesome that has such a strong reputation about being loyal to actors and staff

this to me seems kinda vindictive against an innocent party.


What's crazy,there's some stuff that was introduced on the shows that Marvel expanded on in the movies...



Ok I can see if Fiege wants to reboot the characters and tie them into the MCU officially...

Marvel should just rebrand the shows as part of "Marvel's Multiverse"... Simple...

Agents of Shield, Agent Carter, Cloak and Dagger, and Runaways happened in an alternate universe or timeline is easier to explain... Then saying they never happened at all...


Co-sign
 

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Ok I can see if Fiege wants to reboot the characters and tie them into the MCU officially...

Marvel should just rebrand the shows as part of "Marvel's Multiverse"... Simple...

Agents of Shield, Agent Carter, Cloak and Dagger, and Runaways happened in an alternate universe or timeline is easier to explain... Then saying they never happened at all...

^^^^

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I had to send the word out to Feige...

cause that OTHER sh*t they had planned was NOT gonna stand

that whole entire CREW paid their dues and do NOT deserve to just be discarded.
 

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Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. Rumored For Soft Reboot In The MCU
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What’s old is eventually and inevitably new again, and if the relentless turning of the rumor mill is to be believed, that’s about to become especially true for the Marvel Cinematic Universe over the coming years.

When Kevin Feige was promoted to the company’s Chief Creative Officer, one of his first acts was to fold Marvel Television and disregard any previous TV shows as official MCU canon, which created a minor headache given the sheer amount of references made to the events of the movies in the likes of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Agent Carter, not to mention James D’Arcy’s Edwin Jarvis showing up in Avengers: Endgame after Feige had made his decree.

vel TV alumni like Charlie Cox, Vincent D’Onofrio, Jon Bernthal, Krysten Ritter, Clark Gregg and Chloe Bennet from being linked to a return as the same characters they previously played on the small screen, albeit with the caveat that they’ll be introduced to audiences for the first time as their official MCU versions.

The latest rumor offers that several familiar faces from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. will be brought back into the mythology via a franchise-wide soft reboot that would have them return without referencing any of their previous escapades, so as to start with a narratively clean slate. Obviously, this isn’t the first time we’ve heard something similar and it certainly won’t be the last, either, but with the MCU in need of more content and cast members than ever before due to the Disney Plus expansion, there are definitely worse ideas out there than dipping into its own back catalogue for inspiration to give it a fresh lick of paint, and there are plenty of fans that’d love to see Phil Coulson and Quake make their return.
 

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Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. Rumored For Disney Plus Revival
By Scott Campbell 3 months ago



Despite all the evidence to the contrary accumulated over the course of seven seasons and 136 episodes, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. doesn’t take place within official Marvel Cinematic Universe continuity by decree of Kevin Feige, with the company’s Chief Creative Officer wiping the slate clean when he outlined his intentions to launch an expansive roster of Disney Plus exclusives.
Even though the popular ABC series was led by Clark Gregg’s fan favorite Agent Coulson and featured cameos from a litany of feature film supporting players like Jaimie Alexander’s Sif, Hayley Atwell’s Peggy Carter and even Samuel L. Jackson’s Nick Fury, the tail end of the seventh and final season hastily retconned Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.‘s entire existence to position it in a pocket reality adjacent to the events of the big screen blockbusters.
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However, there’ve been constant rumors that major characters like Phil Coulson, Ming-Na Wen’s Melinda May and Chloe Bennet’s Daisy could yet be absorbed into the main timeline, and tipster Mikey Sutton is now claiming that talks over a potential Disney Plus revival have already happened behind the scenes, even though the finale only aired in August of last year.
Of course, a combination of the multiverse being in play and the desire to continue the unstoppable growth of the MCU means that it isn’t outside the realm of possibility that the gang could be brought back together, this time with a much bigger Disney Plus budget and some direct connections to the rest of the franchise’s episodic output, and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. must be drawing in some big viewing numbers on the Mouse House’s platform if the possibility of reintegrating it into canon is already back on the table.
 

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Exclusive: Marvel Working On Resurrecting Their Agents Of SHIELD Series
By DREW DIETSCH | 2 DAYS AGO


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Agents of SHIELD was once a big arm of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The ABC series lasted for seven seasons and managed to build out its own little corner in the larger Marvel world. However, it got to a point where it felt like the show was living in its own reality and did not really have any major repercussions for the Marvel Cinematic Universe. As such, it had its loyal fans but it also did not seem to be a real integral part of the overarching universe. And that seems to have been confirmed by Disney with Agents of SHIELD being moved out of the proper Marvel Cinematic Universe canon on Disney+. That move has frustrated some fans but that seems to be a calculated move.


We reached out to our trusted and proven insider source to find out more about this and it turns out that Agents of SHIELD is getting something of a reboot. From what we were able to gather, Marvel does want to bring back the characters from the show but will treat them as new to audiences. It will essentially be a soft reboot of the property and characters that will act as a tip of the hat to old fans while being completely accessible to anyone who never saw Agents of SHIELD. In this way, the Marvel Cinematic Universe will not really acknowledge any of the canon of the series but will keep the characters the same.

What is really interesting about this info is that it sounds like the Agents of SHIELD characters won’t be getting a rebooted series but will rather be individually rebooted by appearing in other Marvel Cinematic Universe properties. This could mean that they would show up in Secret Invasion, the series that is currently set to focus the most on the clandestine agency. That series is also rumored to act as a significant chance for some canon reconfiguration, so it would make a lot of sense for this approach to the Agents of SHIELD characters to play out on this show.


Naturally, the biggest return would be Clark Gregg as Agent Coulson. The character was resurrected for Agents of SHIELD but was never brought up in any other Marvel Cinematic Universe property. Would this be acknowledged in this new reboot approach to these characters? Or would Coulson be one character that did not return? His death was the catalyst that got the Avengers to come together in the first place and bringing him back always did feel a little like a cheap maneuver. We were not able to verify whether or not Coulson would be part of this reboot, but if one character from the show was not going to come back, we would guess it would be him.




We have certainly heard that Marvel wants former Agents of SHIELD star Chloe Bennet back in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and this newest report would seem to feed into that previous one. We will be keeping our feelers out for any more developments with this new approach to these Marvel characters.

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Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s Ming-Na Wen Talks The 'Void' Of Moving On From May's Ending
PUBLISHED: JUN. 30. 2021 3:59 PM




Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. debuted on ABC back in 2013 as the first series to bring the Marvel Cinematic Universe to television, although it would later move away from the larger MCU. The show closed on a satisfying note rather than killing a slew of major characters off. Ming-Na Wen's Melinda May got to retire from the action and become an instructor at Coulson Academy, and The Cavalry's era of action came to an end. Now, nearly a year after the finale aired, Wen has opened about how the show ended.


Fan reactions to the series finale of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. back in August 2020 were generally positive, with the bittersweet ending of all the heroes surviving but the group splitting up for the next stage of their lives (and Deke being left behind alive but in another reality). Ming-Na Wen recently spoke with CinemaBlend's Adam Holmes about her role in Star Wars: The Bad Batch, and she took the time to share her feelings on S.H.I.E.L.D. coming to a close, saying:

It’s such a mixed bag of emotions. We’ve spent seven seasons together growing and becoming friends and a family. There’s a void, there’s a definite void, but I’m also used to this kind of lifestyle that I’ve chosen for myself where I work with a bunch of people very closely… it’s like a gypsy. You live this life where you know that it’s not gonna go on forever, and that’s ok. You love that experience. And I’m just grateful that the fans had a chance to see these characters come to a finale like we were able to experience it. It’s very rare that a TV series has that opportunity to know that it’s their final season, and for the writers to have a chance to make that a real button on the storytelling.

I think Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. fans can definitely relate to Ming-Na Wen's sense of a "void" after the end of the show, even if fans didn't have the same experience of working with the group of people who brought the characters to life on television. As Wen noted, the S.H.I.E.L.D. team went into Season 7 knowing that it would be the last, so it was able to set up the ends of the characters' stories from the beginning, which was especially useful in handling Fitz's absence and the ultimate payoff when he returned to the group.



It also set up the idea of May being ready to move on, even if her descending from the ceiling as The Cavalry one last time was one of the most epic parts of the finale. And while her story when it came to Coulson himself wasn't necessarily over, S.H.I.E.L.D. gave her a peaceful ending that still allowed her to train the next generation of S.H.I.E.L.D. agents as a teacher. Ming-Na Wen shared her thoughts on May becoming a teacher:

I think she always was. She was always the nurturer, you know? She just had a lot of roadblocks her way. And one of the best moments for me was I had suggested to the writers that she accepts her title of The Cavalry, that that would be a wonderful way to round out her character, that she finally has come to accept about who she was and all the mistakes she made or didn’t make. And I just love that the fans also loved that moment.


Over the years, May truly did show her nurturing side even as she wasn't exactly the most openly emotive character on the show. She helped Daisy become the superhero she was by the end of the series, and had to power through some very personal losses in the process of fighting the good fight.

And she did overcome some of her demons, as seen by her big Cavalry moment in the finale, when she took the title that she previously hated and embraced it to help save the day. Honestly, I don't know how Coulson didn't burst into cheers when May dropped from the ceiling – I certainly did watching from home! Like the rest of the team, Ming-Na Wen's May was still alive as of the end of S.H.I.E.L.D., so fans can always hope that she turns up again in the MCU.

That said, Ming-Na Wen is going strong in another Disney franchise thanks to her Star Wars role as Fennec Shand, who she debuted in live-action in The Mandalorian, reprised for Disney+'s animated The Bad Batch, and will play again in live-action for The Book of Boba Fett later this year. You can find Wen as Fennec Shand on Disney+, and relive her days as Melinda May with all seven seasons of S.H.I.E.L.D. streaming on Netflix.
 

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With them getting ready to introduce the Multiverse in the MCU.

It’s possible they can use that to bring in this show and the Netflix shows and state they were operating in a different universe along the same timeline.

And they somewhat set it up with the final scenes of AoS in the Series Finale last scenes.

Mac would be perfect to be the new Nick Fury being Sam Jackson is aging out of the role.
 

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Legends of Tomorrow Pays Agents of SHIELD Back For Season 7 Theft
Legends of Tomorrow's Sara Lance clone twist echoes Phil Coulson's LMD and repays how Agents of SHIELD season 7 become a time travel show like LoT.

BY JOHN ORQUIOLAPUBLISHED JUN 15, 2021
Warning: SPOILERS for DC's Legends of Tomorrow season 6, episode 6, "Bishop's Gambit".

DC's Legends of Tomorrow's latest twist that Sara Lance (Caity Lotz) is now a clone pays back Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 7's swiping the Arrowverse series' time-traveling superheroes concept. Sara is still trapped on the homeworld of Bishop (Raffi Barsoumian), the insane space lord who is also the creator of Ava (Jes Macallan) and the legion of AVA clones. It appears Sara did die after being poisoned by an alien hybrid of Amelia Earhart (Jen Oleksiuk) and White Canary was unaware Bishop resurrected her.

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Legends of Tomorrow and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. are kindred shows with a lot in common since both are outliers within their respective universes, the Arrowverse and the Marvel Cinematic Universe. However, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 7 outright copied Legends of Tomorrow's core idea when the team led by Alphonso "Mack" Mackenzie (Henry Simmons) turned their ship, Zephyr One, into a time machine so they could go back into the MCU's 20th century and stop the alien Chronicoms from preventing S.H.I.E.L.D. from ever existing. Dropping into the 1930s all the way into the 1980s, with the appropriate cosplay and hijinks, reinvigorated AoS in its final season, which was one of the show's best run of episodes. Meanwhile, S.H.I.E.L.D.'s success with the format helped validate Legends of Tomorrow's claim as the Arrowverse's most innovative show. Phil Coulson (Clark Gregg), who died at the end of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 5, was resurrected as a Life Model Decoy enhanced with Chronicom technology.


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Sara Lance reborn as a clone is Legends of Tomorrow's spin on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s Coulson/LMD twist (a different Phil doppelganger who was an alien also allowed Coulson to return in AoS season 6) and it balances the scales for S.H.I.E.L.D. becoming a time travel show. After all, both superhero series have now killed their lead characters and replaced them with artificial versions The Coulson LMD was aware he was a machine but he still retained the beloved agent's memories and personality. Likewise, Sara remains Sara even in her new clone body (which, as Bishop pointed out, is free of the scars from her years of battles), but Lance had no idea that she was a clone until Bishop dropped the bombshell on her.



But now that Sara knows she's a clone, it still doesn't seem like Captain Lance will be any different since she hasn't displayed any new abilities (yet), but she remains the same cunning fighter who was trained by the League of Assassins. Even Gary Green (Adam Tsekhman) didn't realize it wasn't exactly the same Sara. On Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., everyone adjusted to their dead leader returning as an LMD, although Daisy Johnson (Chloe Bennet) had the hardest time reconciling her mentor Coulson's resurrection.

Sara becoming a clone of herself creates some interesting new dilemmas for Captain Lance and for her loved ones, especially Ava. Sara has died many times throughout Legends of Tomorrow but this is different since she always returned as herself before, but now it appears like her original body really is dead. Meanwhile, Ava was horrified that she is a clone and it still bothers her, although Sara never minded it. But how will Ava feel when she finds out Sara is now a clone like her? Will Ava reject this or will it bring her and Sara closer together? And what will this mean for Sara and Ava's eventual wedding?


After killing off Sarge, the pseudo-Coulson, in season 6, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. immediately brought back Phil Coulson as an LMD so that their lead character could be part of the show's final season. Meanwhile, the fact that Legends of Tomorrow took a week off from Sara Lance's story to focus on the rest of her team on Earth allowed the show to play the necessary sleight of hand to switch Sara for the clone without fans noticing. It made for an effective and unexpected twist, although it's amusing that even though Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is canceled, Legends of Tomorrow is now returning the favor for AoS season 7 copying them.
 

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Henry Simmons & Joy Bryant To Star In Season 2 Of OWN Anthology Drama Series ‘Cherish The Day’
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EXCLUSIVE: We have learned that Henry Simmons (Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D, NYPD Blue) and Joy Bryant (Parenthood, For Life) are set to star in season 2 of OWN: Oprah Winfrey Network’s and Ava DuVernay’s anthology drama series Cherish the Day.
Production on the ARRAY Filmworks, Harpo Films and Warner Bros. Television production will begin this month in New Orleans with the new season set to air in 2022.
Cherish the Day chronicles the relationship of one couple, with each episode spanning a single day. In season two, the rekindling of a romance is told — the love story of Ellis (Henry Simmons) and Sunday (Joy Bryant), who fell in love in high school but find themselves reunited in beautiful New Orleans. Ellis is a former basketball player who is now a single father of two, and Sunday is a vegan celebrity chef on the cusp of fame. Each episode of the season-long narrative unfolds in a single day to reveal significant moments in a relationship.


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Simmons most recently starred in Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. for ABC, and previously starred in the final six seasons of the landmark ABC drama NYPD Blue, created by Steven Bochco and David Milch. He was also a series regular on the CBS legal drama Shark and ABC comedy Man Up. Simmons starred in the feature film No Good Deed, opposite Idris Elba and Taraji P. Henson, for Screen Gems. He also starred opposite Henson and Michael Clarke Duncan in From the Rough, and opposite Robin Williams in the independent feature World’s Greatest Dad. He was named Best Actor at the 2007 American Black Film Festival for his performance in South of Pico. Additional film acting credits include Madea’s Family Reunion, Something New, Taxi, Are We There Yet?, The Insurgents, A Gentleman’s Game, and Above the Rim. Simmons is repped by Artists First and APA.
Bryant is best known for her NAACP Image Award-nominated role as Jasmine in the long-running series Parenthood, and recently starred in the ABC series For Life opposite Nicholas Pinnock and Indira Varma. Joy has appeared opposite Dwayne Johnson on HBO’s Emmy Award-nominated drama Ballers, was a regular on the critically acclaimed Amazon original series Good Girls Revolt, and guest starred in the final season of HBO’s award-winning series Girls. Her film credits include About Last Night, Hit and Run, Bobby, Get Rich or Die Tryin’, The Skeleton Key, Carmen: A Hip Hopera with Beyoncé, and Denzel Washington’s directorial debut, Antwone Fisher. She is repped by Gersh, Principal Entertainment LA and James Adams.






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Cicely Tyson, and debuted in February 2020. On average during its seven-week first season, the series ranked #1 in its time period across all of cable with African American women, households, and total viewers.
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The DuVernay-led series achieved full gender parity with a production crew of more than 50% women, including 18 female department heads, an initiative DuVernay will continue in season 2.
DuVernay, Paul Garnes, Raynelle Swilling, Teri Schaffer, and Oprah Winfrey serve as EPs of the series. Swilling, who won the 2020 NAACP Image Award for Outstanding Breakthrough Creative (Television) for Cherish the Day, and Schaffer are co-showrunners of season 2.

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