Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - the end of the regular season is near

Mask

"OneOfTheBest"
Platinum Member
I'm just sayin. You mentioned the Pelicans injuries are you saying that's why he wants to leave? Lakers are loaded with injuries. It happens. :dunno:

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Naw that wasn’t the reason, as a former season ticket holders two times over, I’m here to say AD better be the last fucker to say a damn thing about injuries
 

jack walsh13

Jack Walsh 13
BGOL Investor
Naw that wasn’t the reason, as a former season ticket holders two times over, I’m here to say AD better be the last fucker to say a damn thing about injuries
Oh ok. Your right about that. I just think the whole way he handled this situation sucks. The whining and crying cause you can't be part of a super team is disgusting. No one here is gonna convince me any different so don't waste your time typing away trying. :hmm:

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jack walsh13

Jack Walsh 13
BGOL Investor
Are you fuckin kidding me with this score in the Nuggets game in the 2nd quarter!!? :smh: Somebody gonna hit 200 points this year. :smh:

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Mask

"OneOfTheBest"
Platinum Member
Oh ok. Your right about that. I just think the whole way he handled this situation sucks. The whining and crying cause you can't be part of a super team is disgusting. No one here is gonna convince me any different so don't waste your time typing away trying. :hmm:

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Yea folks looking at dude like wtf, crazy thing is folks round here knew it was only a matter of time. Actually when they draft him, myself and my homeboy said “man I hope they be able to keep him”
 

Day_Carver

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
It's how he's going about it is what I don't like. And I agree theat ring culture that is built up today through the media and fans is what he gave in too. I still don't like it. Durant started this bitch shit.

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Nah don't put that on KD. That shit been happening. And there is nothing wrong with players taking control of their careers and using the power they have
 

Duece

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
The Scarlet Agency: How The Pelicans Have Gained Control of The Narrative

It was late Friday night when the bombshells started dropping. Shams, then Woj, then Shams, then Woj again. Outside of head coach Alvin Gentry being thrust into media scrums due to league obligated duties, the Pelicans organization in large part remained quiet this whole week. They watched patiently as Davis’s representation, Rich Paul, gallivanted with NBA media and executives alike, imparting a very clear message – Davis wants to be a Laker, buyer beware. They also watched Davis deny and deflect in front of a herd of reporters as he made his first media appearance since his trade request. Nevermind that the NBA investigated Davis and his representation, fining them $50,000 for an on-the-record request, because Davis says he never issued an ultimatum. Nevermind that it is widely reported that each team that calls Paul to gain a pulse is told Davis will be rental and will walk for Los Angeles, because Davis says he never gave a preferred destination. You see, this is all convenient for Davis, because in his mind it absolves him of responsibility when his father texts a national reporter a mere hours later,

“I would never want my son the play for Boston after what they done to Isaiah Thomas…NO LOYALTY”.

The Pelicans watched that too. When people thought the dust finally settled, at least for the time being, the Pelicans launched an offensive that wielded the two biggest reporters covering the NBA as a set of boxing gloves. Their message was clear too – all bets are off.

Let’s talk about what the Pelicans did here and the subtle, yet not so subtle brilliance of it. In the first set of reports shared with Shams and Wojnarowski, the Pelicans let it be known the Lakers offers have not been “remotely serious” or “worth considering or responding to”. This was an appetizer – designed to capture the attention of thousands who were experiencing an otherwise low-key Friday night by NBA standards. Once all eyes were glued to their phones and jokes began to fly, the Pelicans began to name names.

In the Lakers first offer to the Pelicans for Anthony Davis, LA offered Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Rajon Rondo, Michael Beasley and a first-round pick, league sources tell ESPN

Simultaneously, Shams was being told that, “The Lakers have offered the Pelicans two of their talented young players — among Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, Kyle Kuzma, Ivica Zubac, Josh Hart — with Rondo or Stephenson as core parts of a deal”.

All hell broke loose. The best player on the trade market since Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is trying to do everything he can to get to the Lakers and the best they can be bothered to offer are 2 young players, Rajon Rondo, and Lance Stephenson as core parts? Are they insane? More than shining a light on the organizational incompetence of the Lakers, the Pelicans’ messaging had secondary and tertiary goals. As much as anything, the Pelicans are signaling to LeBron – this is how little effort the Lakers are putting in to get you the support you need at this stage in your career. The last thing the Lakers want is a disgruntled LeBron applying internal pressure on an already complex situation. Moreover, the Pelicans are sending a direct message to every player named in the offers – you are not safe. Vet and youngster alike, you are on the market and the Lakers will drop you the moment they get the opportunity. It is a clear destabilization tactic. The Lakers are trying to pull off the biggest trade in the modern era, the last thing they want is angry agents demanding to know what is happening with their clients.


But the destabilization didn’t stop there. In one final report, the Pelicans neatly tied in the agency that has been at the nexus of this all – Klutch Sports.

Sources with The Athletic’s Pelicans reporter @WillGuillory: One player the Lakers have not placed in discussions with Pelicans for Anthony Davis (besides LeBron James): Kentavious Caldwell-Pope.

For those who may not know, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope is another Rich Paul client. In a single report, the Pelicans have painted the giant scarlet letter that is Klutch all over every party involved in this situation. The implication is clear – Klutch is running the show. For the simpletons that care to point out that Caldwell-Pope was not included in the offer because of his no-trade clause – that is precisely the point. When an organization needs to approach a player to discuss potentially waiving the clause, they negotiate through the agent. Who is the agent in this situation? Why can’t the Lakers have this discussion with them? Oh yeah. Klutch. So either the Lakers are a spineless organization, manipulated by the whim of LeBron and his agency, or they are complicit in everything Klutch has done so far in the Davis situation. It’s a bad look either way. And as for Klutch, if they wanted to get Davis to hollywood so desperately, what is stopping them letting the Lakers put Caldwell-Pope on the table? Whose interests are they really looking out for here? It’s a question Davis has to ask himself.

Just as the Pelicans had every opportunity to build a contender around Davis, Davis and his camp had every opportunity to not make this a messy and public affair. Instead, they actively chose to take it to the media and happily ate a fine they knew was coming all so Rich Paul could pull every lever to pair Davis with his premier client and longtime friend, LeBron James. You want to play for a bigger market and want a better chance to win? Sure, you have every right to do so. You want to spend a week progressively creating a media circus? By all means, be my guest. But don’t act surprised when the Pelicans decide to take the narrative in their own hands.
If it were me, I would take it one step further. Remove Davis from all team related activities on the court. Jason does a beautiful job here of outlining the risks and benefits of making such a decision. It’s not exactly a great look for one’s legacy if they sit out half a season and miss out on All-NBA all because they decided to create a public commotion. Nevertheless, the Pelicans have surreptitiously done an admiral job of messaging this week – from handing the keys of the franchise to Jrue Holiday, to Friday night’s tweet barrage. Something tells me they aren’t done yet.
 

jack walsh13

Jack Walsh 13
BGOL Investor
Nah don't put that on KD. That shit been happening. And there is nothing wrong with players taking control of their careers and using the power they have
So, hold up.......hold the fuck up a minute. You trying to fuckin tell me you cool with what Durant did? You think that's ok? Just because he can? The nigga was up 3-1, lost 4-3 to a team which in part was all his fuckin fault playing so shitty and instead of working even harder to come back and beat that team he joins them? And, and.........you......you gon sit here and tell me because he can you cool wit dis punk pussy smooth shit? :hmm:

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Day_Carver

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
So, hold up.......hold the fuck up a minute. You trying to fuckin tell me you cool with what Durant did? You think that's ok? Just because he can? The nigga was up 3-1, lost 4-3 to a team which in part was all his fuckin fault playing so shitty and instead of working even harder to come back and beat that team he joins them? And, and.........you......you gon sit here and tell me because he can you cool wit dis punk pussy smooth shit? :hmm:

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I'm not saying I'm cool with their decisions. What i am cool with is players taking their careers into their on hands. Not letting these dumb ass owners or idiot gms control them. It's a players league and i understand that. Now I'm not about debate i again about KD:giggle:i know how u feel and u know how i feel. But i will ask this question; can u name a better situation for KD then what GS had to offer? I would say u can't....
 

Complex

Internet Superstar
BGOL Investor
What's wrong with giving a retiring player a final all star nod.

The MLB did it for Tony Gwynn when he was in his last year.

They have dumb rules like having every team represented also. They have a lot more players in the game to the point they barely can let everyone play.
 

M.H.C.

5280
BGOL Investor
I'm not saying I'm cool with their decisions. What i am cool with is players taking their careers into their on hands. Not letting these dumb ass owners or idiot gms control them. It's a players league and i understand that. Now I'm not about debate i again about KD:giggle:i know how u feel and u know how i feel. But i will ask this question; can u name a better situation for KD then what GS had to offer? I would say u can't....

I can name plenty of better situations but I CANNOT name an EASIER situation.
 

HeathCliff

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
Are the Lakers really keeping up with the Warriors without Lebron or are the Warriors playing down to their opposition? :idea:
 

Duece

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
Niggas conventionally didn't read that article at reply number #3791, instead they are talking about what they think the Pelicans want.

Once again proves the point that people think the Pelicans should just bend over for the Lakers.
 

SIDESHOW

Uncle Juice
BGOL Investor
What’s so speacial about Ingram and Kuz? Lol

Lance Stevenson is worthless

And luke Walton looks like a deer in headlights.
 

Mask

"OneOfTheBest"
Platinum Member
Niggas conventionally didn't read that article at reply number #3791, instead they are talking about what they think the Pelicans want.

Once again proves the point that people think the Pelicans should just bend over for the Lakers.


:lol: pelicans aint tripping on nothing, they chilling aint worried about nothing
 

chrislee

Rising Star
Super Moderator
What’s so speacial about Ingram and Kuz? Lol

Lance Stevenson is worthless

And luke Walton looks like a deer in headlights.
Kuz & Ingram are averaging 18 & 17 ppg. Lance trys to do to much at times but he has his moments where he's a solid contributor.

There's no reason to rush and make the deal for the Pelicans. Sure they want to do a deal with Boston but with Kyrie not committed it don't make sense to go for Davis and give up Taytum. Picks are nice but its the person that's scouting the talent at the end of the day.
 

Complex

Internet Superstar
BGOL Investor
Luke :smh:

He was right, about them playing selfishly.

I watched Beasley, Lance, Ingram bring the ball up and shoot without passing the ball and taking bad shots

but once the players hear or think he's not long term, they're not going to have the same respect for him. :smh:

If they were special they wouldn't be included in the deals

The logic is flawed, since every player in the league gets traded besides Dirk and Lebron.
 

M.H.C.

5280
BGOL Investor
The Scarlet Agency: How The Pelicans Have Gained Control of The Narrative

It was late Friday night when the bombshells started dropping. Shams, then Woj, then Shams, then Woj again. Outside of head coach Alvin Gentry being thrust into media scrums due to league obligated duties, the Pelicans organization in large part remained quiet this whole week. They watched patiently as Davis’s representation, Rich Paul, gallivanted with NBA media and executives alike, imparting a very clear message – Davis wants to be a Laker, buyer beware. They also watched Davis deny and deflect in front of a herd of reporters as he made his first media appearance since his trade request. Nevermind that the NBA investigated Davis and his representation, fining them $50,000 for an on-the-record request, because Davis says he never issued an ultimatum. Nevermind that it is widely reported that each team that calls Paul to gain a pulse is told Davis will be rental and will walk for Los Angeles, because Davis says he never gave a preferred destination. You see, this is all convenient for Davis, because in his mind it absolves him of responsibility when his father texts a national reporter a mere hours later,

“I would never want my son the play for Boston after what they done to Isaiah Thomas…NO LOYALTY”.

The Pelicans watched that too. When people thought the dust finally settled, at least for the time being, the Pelicans launched an offensive that wielded the two biggest reporters covering the NBA as a set of boxing gloves. Their message was clear too – all bets are off.

Let’s talk about what the Pelicans did here and the subtle, yet not so subtle brilliance of it. In the first set of reports shared with Shams and Wojnarowski, the Pelicans let it be known the Lakers offers have not been “remotely serious” or “worth considering or responding to”. This was an appetizer – designed to capture the attention of thousands who were experiencing an otherwise low-key Friday night by NBA standards. Once all eyes were glued to their phones and jokes began to fly, the Pelicans began to name names.

In the Lakers first offer to the Pelicans for Anthony Davis, LA offered Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Rajon Rondo, Michael Beasley and a first-round pick, league sources tell ESPN

Simultaneously, Shams was being told that, “The Lakers have offered the Pelicans two of their talented young players — among Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, Kyle Kuzma, Ivica Zubac, Josh Hart — with Rondo or Stephenson as core parts of a deal”.

All hell broke loose. The best player on the trade market since Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is trying to do everything he can to get to the Lakers and the best they can be bothered to offer are 2 young players, Rajon Rondo, and Lance Stephenson as core parts? Are they insane? More than shining a light on the organizational incompetence of the Lakers, the Pelicans’ messaging had secondary and tertiary goals. As much as anything, the Pelicans are signaling to LeBron – this is how little effort the Lakers are putting in to get you the support you need at this stage in your career. The last thing the Lakers want is a disgruntled LeBron applying internal pressure on an already complex situation. Moreover, the Pelicans are sending a direct message to every player named in the offers – you are not safe. Vet and youngster alike, you are on the market and the Lakers will drop you the moment they get the opportunity. It is a clear destabilization tactic. The Lakers are trying to pull off the biggest trade in the modern era, the last thing they want is angry agents demanding to know what is happening with their clients.


But the destabilization didn’t stop there. In one final report, the Pelicans neatly tied in the agency that has been at the nexus of this all – Klutch Sports.

Sources with The Athletic’s Pelicans reporter @WillGuillory: One player the Lakers have not placed in discussions with Pelicans for Anthony Davis (besides LeBron James): Kentavious Caldwell-Pope.

For those who may not know, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope is another Rich Paul client. In a single report, the Pelicans have painted the giant scarlet letter that is Klutch all over every party involved in this situation. The implication is clear – Klutch is running the show. For the simpletons that care to point out that Caldwell-Pope was not included in the offer because of his no-trade clause – that is precisely the point. When an organization needs to approach a player to discuss potentially waiving the clause, they negotiate through the agent. Who is the agent in this situation? Why can’t the Lakers have this discussion with them? Oh yeah. Klutch. So either the Lakers are a spineless organization, manipulated by the whim of LeBron and his agency, or they are complicit in everything Klutch has done so far in the Davis situation. It’s a bad look either way. And as for Klutch, if they wanted to get Davis to hollywood so desperately, what is stopping them letting the Lakers put Caldwell-Pope on the table? Whose interests are they really looking out for here? It’s a question Davis has to ask himself.

Just as the Pelicans had every opportunity to build a contender around Davis, Davis and his camp had every opportunity to not make this a messy and public affair. Instead, they actively chose to take it to the media and happily ate a fine they knew was coming all so Rich Paul could pull every lever to pair Davis with his premier client and longtime friend, LeBron James. You want to play for a bigger market and want a better chance to win? Sure, you have every right to do so. You want to spend a week progressively creating a media circus? By all means, be my guest. But don’t act surprised when the Pelicans decide to take the narrative in their own hands.
If it were me, I would take it one step further. Remove Davis from all team related activities on the court. Jason does a beautiful job here of outlining the risks and benefits of making such a decision. It’s not exactly a great look for one’s legacy if they sit out half a season and miss out on All-NBA all because they decided to create a public commotion. Nevertheless, the Pelicans have surreptitiously done an admiral job of messaging this week – from handing the keys of the franchise to Jrue Holiday, to Friday night’s tweet barrage. Something tells me they aren’t done yet.

Reading this shit, has me thinking the NBA is one big ass soap opera.
 

LordSinister

One Punch Mayne
Super Moderator
They are keeping KCP cause he is the way for them to reach 3 max deals. The article has lots of holes in it, KCP is not the only vet with a no trade. Its actually standard for his type of deal.

Did this dude compare brittle ass AD to Kareem? Part of the reason why the Lakers don't want to give up the entire farm is cause he hasn't played a full year.

Magic already fucked up trading D'Angelo and letting Julius walk for nothing. The last thing he wants is a broken down King and worn out Brow and 2 more baby Lakers shining.

https://syndication.bleacherreport....us-randle-dangelo-russell-and-others.amp.html

Interesting read and take. D'Angelo is an all star now and Randle is a 20 and 9 guy. Jim Buss handed him some fucked up situations and he was able to sign Bron, let's see how this plays out between them.
 
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