PAY YOUR WORKERS FAIRLY! I.T. guy quits. Costs Employer 40 Millon!

[4 Dimensional]

Yeah now I'm no expert but I recall from Accounting that every company licensed by the State gets an unemployment fund tax that the COMPANY has to pay. All that money is what makes up the state's unemployment fund which they distribute if the employee meets the requirements.

They set the amount based on what your monthly income was. It sounds like they want you to repay the state and your issue is that you should owe much less than 24k because the employer sent your fulltime monthly incometo the State...never adjusted for the part time amount you were pulling down when you left.

It doesn't seem right to me that they want employees to repay the money but this is NC so I understand if the law was written that way.

The bold part is EXACTLY my argument and they did it for an entire year.

When I adjusted the numbers that was sent by the auditor, then it reflected my part time income.

The audit letter was basically say I should have never filed.

So, could this be an honest mistake on the company’s part? I know for certain they got PPE loans.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

The bold part is EXACTLY my argument and they did it for an entire year.

When I adjusted the numbers that was sent by the auditor, then it reflected my part time income.

The audit letter was basically say I should have never filed.

So, could this be an honest mistake on the company’s part? I know for certain they got PPE loans.

Did u hire @jagu? He eats companies for breffis nigga

 

[4 Dimensional]

Did u hire @jagu? He eats companies for breffis nigga

I might not be able to afford him or @papi68

 

[shaddyvillethug]

I might not be able to afford him or @papi68

Man we all from the BGOL brotherhood. The most successful and the most wretched are all welcomed.

def should give u a playa deal

 

[4 Dimensional]

Silly human sh*t

Ignored it

Didn't tell me

Heard through the grapevine about it

So I had to press

Apparently they did some type of fair hearing? over the phone and it was all just yelling you owe the money you stole the money etc etc

I was like word?

Is this unemployment only or rent too?

It was to repay everything.

Ok I had a friend who works for victims of illegal housing practices and they got involved

But my cousin is "nervous "

You ain't do NOTHING WRONG! Why you nervous?

Folk AFRAID of their employer!

Even after they quit!

I'm going to call now to see what developed.

I'll PM you.

I’m not going to front like I was reporting my contributions 100% correctly. I got a family to take care of first and foremost.

I only made 20k from that last job in 2021 and only brought in 12k total after taxes and deductions.

That was a 40k difference from the previous years (2019).

 

[850credit]

The bold part is EXACTLY my argument and they did it for an entire year.

When I adjusted the numbers that was sent by the auditor, then it reflected my part time income.

The audit letter was basically say I should have never filed.

So, could this be an honest mistake on the company’s part? I know for certain they got PPE loans.

Honest or not it's definitely a mistake. I can only assume that the disbursement amount should be based on your most recent hours/monthly income. If you had been demoted I don't think they would base it on your previous salary rate right?

So I think you have a case here. I don't think the PPE stuff plays a role. There are laws in place to prevent such Accounting 3 card Monty because of Enron. Basically the CEO and other executives can be held liable for shady accounting like that...due to the Enron scandal.

It's doubtful that unemployment fraud and PPE fraud are connected at your company but certainly can't rule it out, fraud happens everyday at every level...

See "AMERICAN GREED" TV show!

 

[playahaitian]

I’m not going to front like I was reporting my contributions 100% correctly. I got a family to take care of first and foremost.

I only made 20k from that last job in 2021 and only brought in 12k total after taxes and deductions.

That was a 40k difference from the previous year.

And you were RIGHT to do so.

It's the science of self preservation

Regardless they tripping with that full overpayment amount.

Some rough math to pay the bills ain't gonna lead to all that.

It was a f*cking pandemic

You ain't take out a million dollar PPP LOAN.

It was unemployment.

 

[donwuan]

As a senior supervisor in my Healthcare organization I am real big on overlap and cross training. For example, I pay my nurses to get trained in all of the programs we have so that no one nurse can ever hold me hostage or hinder a program. The training is not optional. It's a part of on-board and continued workforce improvement."

Regarding pay, I offer what I can without breaking the bank. My job requires that I maintain a healthy DCOH. I tell all my employees, if you find a higher paying job, I encourage you to consider it. But, be sure to weigh the options. I offer 12 paid holidays, 10 sick days, and 10 vacation days. But, you will have to be efficient and productive as long as you stay.

Stop lying. No supervisor talks like this. You don't offer shit or pay shit, the company does. And nurses don't have to consider shit. They can do travel nursing and make bank so no one is giving them alternatives. They all getting bonuses to stay. It's a pandemic. Nurses have to take training to get CEUs to maintain their licenses, That's a state requirement not yours. You sound like you know nothing at all about nursing.

 

[TENT]

Y'all saying PPE when it should be PPP

PPE = Personal protection equipment

PPP = paycheck protection program

 

[4 Dimensional]

Honest or not it's definitely a mistake. I can only assume that the disbursement amount should be based on your most recent hours/monthly income. If you had been demoted I don't think they would base it on your previous salary rate right?

So I think you have a case here. I don't think the PPE stuff plays a role. There are laws in place to prevent such Accounting 3 card Monty because of Enron. Basically the CEO and other executives can be held liable for shady accounting like that...due to the Enron scandal.

It's doubtful that unemployment fraud and PPE fraud are connected at your company but certainly can't rule it out, fraud happens everyday at every level...

See "AMERICAN GREED" TV show!

I had to provide proof of my reduced hours on more than one occasion. So the state had evidence my salary and hours was reduced. Why my former employer was reporting the full income is beyond me.

It was probably connected with them still taking full benefits out of a part time paycheck. I was still having insurance and 401k being deducted.

That was the other part unemployment wasn’t seeing. Full time benefits still being deducted from a part time paycheck.

That’s the main reason I was reporting what I was reporting to employment each week. I took home $600 in one month after taxes and deductions.

 

[4 Dimensional]

Y'all saying PPE when it should be PPP

PPE = Personal protection equipment

PPP = paycheck protection program

Thanks for the correction. At least you knew what I meant.

 

[TENT]

No doubt bro. I just didn't want you to fill out forms with the typo or something.

Thanks for the correction. At least you knew what I meant.

 

[Tito_Jackson]

Stop lying. No supervisor talks like this. You don't offer shit or pay shit, the company does. And nurses don't have to consider shit. They can do travel nursing and make bank so no one is giving them alternatives. They all getting bonuses to stay. It's a pandemic. Nurses have to take training to get CEUs to maintain their licenses, That's a state requirement not yours. You sound like you know nothing at all about nursing.

So, let me school you. The ONLY nurses that can be travel nurses are nurses without children or nurses with a stay at home husband. Most of mine have kids and famiky and want to just work their low stress shift and go home. Additionally, because you have never worked in a clinical setting, you do not see the burnout that has and is occurring from nurses trying to get to the bag. In this day in age, nurses can get as much overtime as they want in most hospitals, outpatient clinics, etc. But, it comes at a price. CEUs are 100% different from training to do school nursing, tobacco prevention, car programs, and other public health programs. As I mentioned, my organization allows me to pay my nurses what I deem to be a competitive wage. Is it the highest? Nope. But, it's far from the lowest and the low stress trade off makes the cut in pay worth it for most of my nurses.

Lastly, you never heard a supervisor talk like me because you have never encountered a supervisor like me. I am a supervisor who believes in the mental well-being of his employees. I believe in creating a stress free and pleasant working environment. I have a "no reply on the weekend" policy except for my directors. All overtime must be approved by me because i want my people to only do it because they want to, not because they have to. Yesterday was employee appreciation day. For breakfast, I bought chick fil-a minis, fruit trays, yogurt, and orange juice for the ENTIRE department. For lunch I ordered Chipotle for everyone. This is how I get my people to work hard for me.

Trust me jit, I do this.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Lmaooooooo i didn’t read shit

 

[TENT]

I know this is the web but I believe you 100% bro. You seem solid af.

So, let me school you. The ONLY nurses that can be travel nurses are nurses without children or nurses with a stay at home husband. Most of mine have kids and famiky and want to just work their low stress shift and go home. Additionally, because you have never worked in a clinical setting, you do not see the burnout that has and is occurring from nurses trying to get to the bag. In this day in age, nurses can get as much overtime as they want in most hospitals, outpatient clinics, etc. But, it comes at a price. CEUs are 100% different from training to do school nursing, tobacco prevention, car programs, and other public health programs. As I mentioned, my organization allows me to pay my nurses what I deem to be a competitive wage. Is it the highest? Nope. But, it's far from the lowest and the low stress trade off makes the cut in pay worth it for most of my nurses.

Lastly, you never heard a supervisor talk like me because you have never encountered a supervisor like me. I am a supervisor who believes in the mental well-being of his employees. I believe in creating a stress free and pleasant working environment. I have a "no reply on the weekend" policy except for my directors. All overtime must be approved by me because i want my people to only do it because they want to, not because they have to. Yesterday was employee appreciation day. For breakfast, I bought chick fil-a minis, fruit trays, yogurt, and orange juice for the ENTIRE department. For lunch I ordered Chipotle for everyone. This is how I get my people to work hard for me.

Trust me jit, I do this.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Now this Nigga serving Chick-fil-A on sundays to his out of state nurses.

amazing

 

[shaddyvillethug]

I might not be able to afford him or @papi68

@papi68 definitely taking on all cases

 

[Kaotic]

Bru

Bro, two things:

1) You forget that most people in most jobs do not know their rights, so they're not going for the lawsuit they probably could have and would likely win.

Most jobs know this and do whatever the fuck they want knowing that nine out of ten people aren't going to pursue it farther than whining and complaining

2) you also forget that arrogance, ignorance, and spite that Jobs have towards someone leaving.

I'll give you three instances that are absolutely true, two of which I witnessed personally.

2A) the Environmental Management Services secretary Marsha took a day off one day but I happened to see her in the hallway on the other side of the hospital. She told me not to tell anyone she was here.

She was dressed up and I asked her why and she said she had an interview to be the secretary for another department

She ended up getting the job and the department head Roger Katon, a racist George W. Bush-type veteran (his parents had money, so instead of going to Nam, he got stationed stateside while middle and lower class people had to go to Vietnam.

The day she gave her two week notice, Roger walking to the office, gave her one of his fake Smiles with no teeth, you know that white people smile, went into his office slammed the door and called up Marsha's new boss and said very loudly so she could hear "How dare you fucking hire that lazy fucking bitch"

***

2B) I got a promotion to a different area and tried to give my 2 week notice. Roger told my new boss that he couldn't afford to spare me so they could keep me for two pay periods instead of one.

During that last month I was harassed constantly. I typically had the freedom in my job to work as I saw fit.

I chose to work really hard early so the last part of the day was lax. Management HATED to see me chilling for the last part of the day but there was literally nothing that needed to be done.

I didn't come in at exactly 6am everyday as I was supposed to. I knew it was wrong, but I I knew needed to be done and the time that it needed to be done by. All of my customers were always happy because I overstocked them so they weren't out of supplies by at 6 a.m.

My last month the night shift supervisor was in my office at at 6 a.m. specifically to write me up if I was late

My last day I was written up 3 times for bullshit, and one of the supervisors told me later that Roger told her to write me up or he was going to write her up and suspend her

They were trying to fire me before I could get promoted to the other department. This is the same job that try to take my position away when I got back from deployment and make me a janitor.

I had to go to the Department of Labor to get my position back. The Department of Labor told them to give me back my job by the end of the day or else.

( imagine that, a veteran at a government job having to fight for his position back when he got back from deployment from the war)
***

2C) Do you remember the story of the auto body shop who paid his employee in pennies

A Georgia auto repair shop owner is accused of retaliating against a former employee by paying the worker's final wages, $915, in the form of more than 91,000 oil-soaked pennies.

These are all examples of spiteful, retaliatory tactics jobs do when a person is leaving. And often the people don't sue, they just want to leave

Bruh I don't doubt any of those situations, and yes I absolutely agree that most people don't fully understand their rights when it comes to employment. However, none of your examples line up to what this guy described and the point I am making about it. Which is, a business with that type of footprint and generating that kind of revenue is going to have someone who's job it is to ensure business continuity, resiliency, manage risk.

If a simple outage such as a single printer and a workstation can cause as much monetary loss as this dude says, there is going to be not only spare equipment, but spare people available to ensure those systems and those processes remain online. Sure he could be the only resource "onsite" at a location out in BFE, but I'm not believing that company doesn't have a multiple resources as a backup, on top of remote support. And yes that other guy was on vacation, but he doesn't even do that job anymore anyway, so again...It is possible he is telling the truth, but I find his story highly fantastical.

Rural North Carolina has datacenters, telecom CO's, etc... out in places you wouldn't believe but those companies have resources there to ensure those systems stay online. Not because they are worried about the people that work out there, but because they care about the money they would lose when something goes offline, and the amount they will lose for the amount of time it is down for.

 

[Kaotic]

Their whole race is running on auto pilot.

Reminds me of the meme where the worker tells the ceo "Nice car"

And he replies if u continue to work hard I'll have another one next year

MF'rs getting paid and don't even know what the pple below him do sometimes

No argument with that all. All facts..

 

[papi68]

I wish u woulda been my teacher growing up

my 3rd grade teacher gave me PTSD that I still suffer from

bitch used to lock me in a closed off Science room that had spider webs and dust everywhere

once mom found out she transfers me to another teacher.

if I ever see Mrs Christmas again. It won’t christmas

This explains a number of your ailments. Now, where did the bad man touch you?? Stranger Danger looking ass.

 

[vertigo]

Nice story...but it sounds like some parts have been left out and other parts are over exaggerated bullshit to me. No multi-national company with multi-billion dollar revenues on book who has a product line so crucial that it would lose that much money in a matter for minutes because a fucking printer or workstation went down, is not going to be dependent on a a single point of failure such as (1) IT Specialist for (3) production plants. And I don't care how far out in BFE the place he was working is located, that shit ain't happening.

Second.. Even though he worked in "right to work" state, just as I do.. A company making that kind of revenue is not going to set themselves up for a lawsuit like that by initiating retaliatory actions like writing you up AFTER you've submitted your resignation. If you are working 16 hours a day, 7 days a week, they already know they are in serious violation of multi labor laws already and are not going to pour gas on that fire like that.

It all very well maybe true, as crazier things have happened...but to me it sounds like bullshit.

I don't know if you're right or wrong, but I have been with a telecom company for many, many years- and have been called out several times where the company owner or whoever is trying to put shit back together has called for repair service, KNOWING it isn't our issue, but just throwing a hail mary- hoping that we can do something. although I've never seen it on the scale of 200k/minute... I would suspect an automotive or industrial manufacturing plant was where dude was working.

So, yes, I have seen multi-million dollar companies with ONE guy on staff, critical systems with single point of failure ( both hardware and software)

even on non-essential repair, and sometimes on installation I am surprised to see large (or even enterprise) sized companies with a shocking lack of

I.T staff/support. Most of these I.T people know it's a disaster waiting to happen and most that I've talked to about it claim they have told higher ups, to no avail, Most managers don't want to spend money for equpment/improvements/training/staff or whatever when it appears "everything is fine"

The way some of these folks think concerning their I.T... "department":

1) Shit is up and working fine..... nothing is even wrong... what do I pay you for? what do you even do?
2) Shit goes down and being worked on.... why did it go down? what do I pay you for? what do you even do?

No matter how big or far reaching the company is.. it boils down to human beings. Often times with all their shortcomings, pettiness and EGO.


I won't speak on your second point, other than to say I have seen that too.

 

[vertigo]

Say u had to go full rain man

Had too.

“4 minutes to Wapner.”

What this mean????

 

[godofwine]

Bru


Bruh I don't doubt any of those situations, and yes I absolutely agree that most people don't fully understand their rights when it comes to employment. However, none of your examples line up to what this guy described and the point I am making about it. Which is, a business with that type of footprint and generating that kind of revenue is going to have someone who's job it is to ensure business continuity, resiliency, manage risk.

If a simple outage such as a single printer and a workstation can cause as much monetary loss as this dude says, there is going to be not only spare equipment, but spare people available to ensure those systems and those processes remain online. Sure he could be the only resource "onsite" at a location out in BFE, but I'm not believing that company doesn't have a multiple resources as a backup, on top of remote support. And yes that other guy was on vacation, but he doesn't even do that job anymore anyway, so again...It is possible he is telling the truth, but I find his story highly fantastical.

Rural North Carolina has datacenters, telecom CO's, etc... out in places you wouldn't believe but those companies have resources there to ensure those systems stay online. Not because they are worried about the people that work out there, but because they care about the money they would lose when something goes offline, and the amount they will lose for the amount of time it is down for.

Okay. I got one for you.

When I was in the Navy, FC2 Buchanon was given so many collateral duties that when he asked for leave it was always turned down because they couldn't afford to let him go

He begged and begged for them to have a secondary oh, but they kept on procrastinating and procrastinating never giving him someone to train for all of his collateral duties

It was so bad that when his mother died, they let him go the Thursday before his mother's funeral on Saturday and told him he had to be back on Monday

But he didn't come back that Monday. As a matter of fact, he went AWOL for 6 months. During that time the ship scrambled to get someone to handle all of FC2 Buchanan's duties while he was gone

When he came back 6 months later he avoided severe penalty because he wrote a letter to the chief of Naval operations

 

[Dannyblueyes]

Bro u ride bikes with other people food

this conversation and thread is beyond and above you.

Bro I just played the Moscone Center and a 500 person dance in the same night. If I want to deliver food on my days off so be it.

 

[tallblacknyc]

Now this Nigga serving Chick-fil-A on sundays to his out of state nurses.

amazing

You get chipotle’s, you get chipotle’s, every1 gets chipotle’s… chicken sandwiches and burrito bowls inspires people to save lives

 

[Tito_Jackson]

You get chipotle’s, you get chipotle’s, every1 gets chipotle’s… chicken sandwiches and burrito bowls inspires people to save lives

You'd be surprised how much appreciation a burrito bowl will get you.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

This explains a number of your ailments. Now, where did the bad man touch you?? Stranger Danger looking ass.

???????

did u get yo lick back??

 

[850credit]

Unbelievable

 

[killagram]

List of people not to piss off:
Someone serving/cooking food for you
Your driver/pilot
Your IT guy

Add...Your Electrician, Plumber, and HEATING AND AIR GUY... Brah
@ShortyCumStain

 

[850credit]

Companies operate like the employee is expendable and they can always find someone to do your job for less.

Well yeah. But you gotta hope they get through training and then at least in my job it takes years before you're really comfortable in your role.

They don't wanna pay for expertise, they try to make you feel like you need them more than they need you.

 

[COINTELPRO]

These employers are back to sucking again getting rid of people for made up reasons, I want to go on unemployment for 5 years.

Don't cry when you need workers with your stupid signs on your storefront about nobody wants to work and people want to sit on unemployment.

What is up with this homosexual stalking another man with some pretextual reason, chasing him around. I just had some recruiter gay stalk me using a job opportunity to create some interaction with me. The job boards it's not a place to live out your homosexual fantasies.

 

[TENT]

These employers are back to sucking again getting rid of people for made up reasons, I want to go on unemployment for 5 years.

Don't cry when you need workers with your stupid signs on your storefront about nobody wants to work and people want to sit on unemployment.

What is up with this homosexual stalking another man with some pretextual reason, chasing him around. I just had some recruiter gay stalk me using a job opportunity to create some interaction with me. The job boards it's not a place to live out your homosexual fantasies.

How do you get UE for 5 years?

 

[Dark19]

Add...Your Electrician, Plumber, and HEATING AND AIR GUY... Brah
@ShortyCumStain

And Above All..... The Garbage Men

 

[COINTELPRO]

How do you get UE for 5 years?

I got two LGTBQ recruiters calling me back to back. I did not have that problem when I was on UE. It is pride month so I might have to take my resume down this month.

1. Contacting another man through a job board because of your infatuation with him, homosexual

2. Chasing another man around, visiting his residence and standing outside, homosexual

3. Chasing another man in your vehicle, homosexual

4. Effeminantly communicating while gay staring at another man.

 

[easy_b]

Companies operate like the employee is expendable and they can always find someone to do your job for less.

Well yeah. But you gotta hope they get through training and then at least in my job it takes years before you're really comfortable in your role.

They don't wanna pay for expertise, they try to make you feel like you need them more than they need you.

That used to be the case but now certain employees are becoming hard to come by. They found this out after Covid. Generation Z also wants to be paid correctly so some of these employers are between a rock and a hard Place. The baby boomers and millennials the (older millennials) are running out the door right now.