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Shooting just happened at a Trump rally
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Ehhh, I think this is just what protection has turned into. The more Presidents you have, the more family, the longer those people are living. Those female secret service agents look incompetent as fcuk!!!! The more bodies you need the lower that bar is. I don't think they even know to fire or stick someone to a desk! They'll just punch each other in the arm and say: "We'll do better next time!"
What Secret Service agents said to Trump as they rushed him off stage
It is now revealed what exactly the Secret Service agents and Trump said in the chaos right before he was moved from the stage after being shot.
As the agents and Trump stand, an agent can be heard shouting: 'let's move. let's move.'
'Let me get my clown shoes. Let me get my clown shoes,' said Trump.
'I got you sir (you fucking idiot - mumbled under breath),' a second agent responded as they use their bodies to shield him.
'Let me get my shoes on,' Trump repeated.
'Hold on. Your head is bloody,' the first agent said. Trump can be seen with blood on his face after a bullet grazed his ear.
'Sir we’ve got to move to the clown car, sir,' the second agent said.
Trump insisted 'let me get my shoes.'
'OK,' the female agent responded while fumbling with her gun.
'Wait, wait, wait,' said Trump.
He then pumps his fist in the air with a arrogant, piece of shit & defiant look on his face.
'Fight, fight, fight,' Trump shouted toward the crowd of loyal supporters.
'We got to move. We got to move,' you dumb bastard', an agent said as they move him from the stage.
...why are his shoes off?!?!? Nothing about that scuffle should have made him shoeless!!What Secret Service agents said to Trump as they rushed him off stage
It is now revealed what exactly the Secret Service agents and Trump said in the chaos right before he was moved from the stage after being shot.www.dailymail.co.uk
As the agents and Trump stand, an agent can be heard shouting: 'let's move. let's move.'
'Let me get my clown shoes. Let me get my clown shoes,' said Trump.
'I got you sir (you fucking idiot - mumbled under breath),' a second agent responded as they use their bodies to shield him.
'Let me get my shoes on,' Trump repeated.
'Hold on. Your head is bloody,' the first agent said. Trump can be seen with blood on his face after a bullet grazed his ear.
'Sir we’ve got to move to the clown car, sir,' the second agent said.
Trump insisted 'let me get my shoes.'
'OK,' the female agent responded while fumbling with her gun.
'Wait, wait, wait,' said Trump.
He then pumps his fist in the air with a arrogant, piece of shit & defiant look on his face.
'Fight, fight, fight,' Trump shouted toward the crowd of loyal supporters.
'We got to move. We got to move,' you dumb bastard', an agent said as they move him from the stage.
Hold up, I know I have been clowning this whole thing...and I plan on going back to that!!! But shoes just don't come off! HE went down, secret service didn't tackle him. They piled on top. How did his shoes come off? That's weird as fcuk right?! Back to clowning. I mean that is a weird place to keep a razor blade to cut ones ear so that you'll bleed.
Because it is when using a rifle. That distance is nothing for a rifle at just about any caliber. The typical baseline when setting up a rifle scope is 100yds. Even 22lr can shoot out to 150yds & be on target. Most outdoor ranges have rifle areas that go from 200yds to 1000yds. I've personally shot out to 550yds
What I'm trippin on is why, after the shots were fired, and he was on the ground, why did he want his shoes back so bad? He wasn't leaving without them shoes, why?
I think his shoes are modified in someway that he didn't want anyone else to see...does a normal person feel this way after being shot at 5 times?
And why did he tell his SS agents to wait.....he said wait 3 or 4 times so he could raise his fist in defiance and pose...does a normal person do that if you don't know if all the shooters are down, he left himself open for a headshot for no reason.....ok, I've had my say...
I think his shoes are modified in someway that he didn't want anyone else to see...does a normal person feel this way after being shot at 5 times?
And why did he tell his SS agents to wait.....he said wait 3 or 4 times so he could raise his fist in defiance and pose...does a normal person do that if you don't know if all the shooters are down, he left himself open for a headshot for no reason.....ok, I've had my say...
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If this was a grazed shot, why does he have that hole in his ear? For a grazed shot that ear is SUPER intact!!! His ears aren't even out like that to have been grazed! They're so tucked that shooting them is practically a head shot!
That's true. Usually the blades can be taped inside the wrestler's boots.
It's a bit more difficult in clown shoes. They don't fit as well. I talked to my inside source, R. McDonald.
But with an AR-15?! Again, they seem like they're a hobbyist gun. You could use them for shots like that, but you wouldn't want to cause they aren't made for that.
The shooter just oficially made Donald J Trump a living legend yesterday. The iconic pic of the SS huddles around him and his hand defiantly in the air with the stars and stripes in the background
will be one of the most iconic images in American history. Period
will be one of the most iconic images in American history. Period
100%. I doubt he would have even texted.
He might have posted something on False Social though.
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Yes. Any rifle can shoot that distance easily. Standard AR15 caliber of 5.56 can go out to 500yds before it starts losing it's effectiveness. Whoever led you to believe otherwise has no idea what they're talking about. It's always about the bullet being shot not the rifle.
Like he HAS pockets!!! Like you can keep all that in your pockets! This motherfcuker coming out with athletic tape on his wrists to hide razor blades.
Teflon Don & the Mysterious Razor Blade Con.
Coming to a theater near you ... fall 2024.
Okay, I was legitimately curious in between me clowning this shyt show!
Project 2025 is making their jobs targets to replace them with Trump supporters
This is just like when they banned stop and frisk and cops stopped working.
btw
the shooter is a registered republican
Fixed it for you!
Oh shit prophet predicted Trump assassination exactly, 3 months ago. And says EasyB is right that the USA is coming to an end :(
Skip past to like the 8:00 minute mark And he starts talking about Trump around the 10:00 minute mark to the 15:00 minute mark And keep in mind this was already posted on youtube back on March 14th Very very interesting What do you guys think ???
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*** Keep in mind this was posted on youtube back on March 14th ***
To summarize for those who don’t like too read.
He was a White Boy, so law enforcement did not see him as a threat when they were informed of him prior to the shooting.
Secret Service faces serious questions about security footprint and rooftop access at Trump event
By Whitney Wild, Evan Perez and Tierney Sneed, CNN
July 14, 2024
CNN
—
In the wake of the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, there are widespread concerns and questions about how a sniper was able to obtain rooftop access roughly 150 meters from the former president’s position at the podium at an outdoor rally.
Sources have described the shooting as coming from the “three o’clock” position of Trump’s podium location, with shots coming from his right side. Seconds after gunfire rang out, Secret Service counter-assault snipers began shooting the suspect who was found on top of a roof.
Notably, the shooter’s location was outside the security perimeter, raising questions about both the size of the perimeter and efforts to sweep and secure the American Glass Research building, and how the shooter was able to obtain rooftop access.
President Joe Biden said Sunday he has directed US Secret Service director Kimberly Cheatle “to review all security measures – all security measures – for the Republican National Convention.”
“I’ve directed an independent review of the national security at yesterday’s rally to assess exactly what happened. And I’ll share the results of that independent review with the American people,” Biden said.
Law enforcement sources say that part of the aftermath will include a review of whether the Secret Service had enough assets to protect Trump days ahead of officially becoming the Republican presidential nominee and whether procedures were followed to conduct security sweeps of the building that offered a vantage point for the alleged shooter.
“Foundationally, one of the most basic elements of site security, especially a site that’s outside and largely uncontrolled, is (to) eliminate sight lines to this space where the protectee will be either speaking or just occupying,” former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe said on CNN’s “State of the Union” Sunday morning. “When you look at that map, it so clearly points to those buildings that are within it, clearly within shooting range.”
FBI now leading the investigation into attempted assassination
It is not yet clear how the shooter was able to obtain rooftop access in relatively close proximity, or why that building was left outside the “hard” security perimeter. The FBI is now the lead agency investigating the attempted assassination. But the security lapse issue will be for the Department of Homeland Security and USSS, as well as Congress, to look into.
According to CNN affiliate KDKA, a witness says he told officers that he saw a gunman moving “from roof to roof,” moments before the assassination attempt.
Ben Macer was along a fence line when he saw “the guy move from roof to roof. (I) told an officer (the alleged shooter) was on the roof,” KDKA reported. “When I turned around to go back to where I was, it was when the gunshots started, and then it was just chaos, and we all came running away, and that was that.”
Witnesses have also told reporters that they saw a person fitting the description of the alleged shooter carrying a rifle outside the security cordon of the rally before the shooting.
The shooter was spotted by local law enforcement who thought he might’ve been acting suspiciously near the event magnetometers on Saturday, according to a senior law enforcement official. They put it out over their radio to keep an eye on him – and that information was passed to Secret Service as well, according to the source.
Multiple law enforcement sources told CNN that the shooter had explosive material in his car and residence. The Secret Service does not allow any weapons inside the cordoned off areas of any event. AGR has not responded to questions from CNN about the incident or security.
Authorities have identified the gunman involved in the attack as 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks, who was killed by Secret Service agents at the scene after the shooting.
Multiple law enforcement sources with in-depth knowledge of Secret Service operations have told CNN counter-sniper teams have wide discretion when shooting down a threat.
The Secret Service says there were four counter-sniper teams – two from USSS and two from local law enforcement. The agency says that, at the time of the shooting, Cheatle was in Milwaukee, where this week’s Republican National Convention is being held.
Calls from Congress for probes into security ‘failure’
Republican and Democratic lawmakers are already demanding answers from the agency on the security posture and hearings on the incident.
House Speaker Mike Johnson vowed a “full investigation” of the shooting, featuring testimony from USSS, DHS and the FBI, and two Republicans on the Senate Homeland Security Committee have also called for an investigation.
House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Turner, on CNN’s “State of the Union,” likewise said that Congress had “oversight scrutiny and responsibility,” and said there was a “failure of the overall broader net.”
House Homeland Security Chairman Mark Green focused on the building issue in a letter to the Department of Homeland Security Sunday.
Green sent a letter to DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas requesting documents about Secret Service security plans and their communications by July 19 and a briefing by July 22.
House Oversight Chairman James Comer contacted the Secret Service for a briefing and is calling on Cheatle to appear for a hearing on July 22.
New York Reps. Ritchie Torres, a Democrat, and Mike Lawler, a Republican, are also working to introduce a bill they say would give enhanced USSS protection to Trump, Biden and independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
“As reports continue to emerge, it’s clear that more protection is needed for all major candidates for president,” the pair said in a joint statement provided to CNN.
In a separate scathing letter to the Secret Service director on Sunday, Democratic Rep. Ruben Gallego said that there was a “security failure at the highest level, not seen since the attempted assassination of President Reagan.”
“This cannot happen, and I demand accountability,” Gallego, who is running for an Arizona Senate seat, said.
Secret Service denies claims that it rejected requests for more security for Trump
Secret Service – along with local law enforcement in Pennsylvania who assisted in securing the rally venue, as well as sources close to Trump’s campaign – is denying rumors circulating on social media, including by a Republican member of Congress, that the agency had denied requests from Trump’s team for more security.
In a statement, the Secret Service said the detail had been increased recently.
“There’s an untrue assertion that a member of the former President’s team requested additional security resources and that those were rebuffed,” said Secret Service spokesman Anthony Guglielmi. “This is absolutely false. In fact, we added protective resources & technology & capabilities as part of the increased campaign travel tempo.”
The FBI also pushed back on the implication on Saturday night.
“There was no additional request for security that was ever denied by the FBI,” Kevin Rojek, the FBI special agent in charge of the Pittsburgh office said during a news conference.
The incident also raises questions about security at the upcoming Republican convention. Recently, the questions over how the Secret Service and law enforcement would treat those carrying firearms was raised at a press conference explaining the RNC security plan.
A local official, Nick DeSiato, made clear due to Wisconsin law, firearms would be allowed in the “soft” perimeter – an area outside the magnetometers that is limited to foot traffic.
Shooting comes after other lapses in protection for high-profile officials
The scrutiny comes as the Secret Service has dealt with security lapses in recent months and years. In May 2023, an intruder gained access to the home of Jake Sullivan, the White House national security adviser, despite his round-the-clock Secret Service protection. Sullivan encountered the intruder in his home and alerted his security detail. Sullivan was unharmed.
On January 6, 2021, then-incoming Vice President Kamala Harris was driven by her security detail yards away from a pipe bomb outside the Democratic National Headquarters. She was evacuated after law enforcement discovered the pipe bomb which was more than 90 minutes after her arrival.
The Secret Service uses intelligence and strategic information to determine security posture.
The agency is not formally part of the intelligence community, and is considered a “consumer” of intelligence, relying heavily on relationships with agencies such as the Director of National Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Intelligence and Analysis.
CORRECTION:This story has been updated with additional details and to correct the distance between the gunman and Donald Trump. It was 150 meters.
Trump Shooter, Thomas Matthew Crooks
He was a White Boy, so law enforcement did not see him as a threat when they were informed of him prior to the shooting.
Secret Service faces serious questions about security footprint and rooftop access at Trump event
By Whitney Wild, Evan Perez and Tierney Sneed, CNN
July 14, 2024
CNN
—
In the wake of the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, there are widespread concerns and questions about how a sniper was able to obtain rooftop access roughly 150 meters from the former president’s position at the podium at an outdoor rally.
Sources have described the shooting as coming from the “three o’clock” position of Trump’s podium location, with shots coming from his right side. Seconds after gunfire rang out, Secret Service counter-assault snipers began shooting the suspect who was found on top of a roof.
Notably, the shooter’s location was outside the security perimeter, raising questions about both the size of the perimeter and efforts to sweep and secure the American Glass Research building, and how the shooter was able to obtain rooftop access.
President Joe Biden said Sunday he has directed US Secret Service director Kimberly Cheatle “to review all security measures – all security measures – for the Republican National Convention.”
“I’ve directed an independent review of the national security at yesterday’s rally to assess exactly what happened. And I’ll share the results of that independent review with the American people,” Biden said.
Law enforcement sources say that part of the aftermath will include a review of whether the Secret Service had enough assets to protect Trump days ahead of officially becoming the Republican presidential nominee and whether procedures were followed to conduct security sweeps of the building that offered a vantage point for the alleged shooter.
“Foundationally, one of the most basic elements of site security, especially a site that’s outside and largely uncontrolled, is (to) eliminate sight lines to this space where the protectee will be either speaking or just occupying,” former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe said on CNN’s “State of the Union” Sunday morning. “When you look at that map, it so clearly points to those buildings that are within it, clearly within shooting range.”
FBI now leading the investigation into attempted assassination
It is not yet clear how the shooter was able to obtain rooftop access in relatively close proximity, or why that building was left outside the “hard” security perimeter. The FBI is now the lead agency investigating the attempted assassination. But the security lapse issue will be for the Department of Homeland Security and USSS, as well as Congress, to look into.
According to CNN affiliate KDKA, a witness says he told officers that he saw a gunman moving “from roof to roof,” moments before the assassination attempt.
Ben Macer was along a fence line when he saw “the guy move from roof to roof. (I) told an officer (the alleged shooter) was on the roof,” KDKA reported. “When I turned around to go back to where I was, it was when the gunshots started, and then it was just chaos, and we all came running away, and that was that.”
Witnesses have also told reporters that they saw a person fitting the description of the alleged shooter carrying a rifle outside the security cordon of the rally before the shooting.
The shooter was spotted by local law enforcement who thought he might’ve been acting suspiciously near the event magnetometers on Saturday, according to a senior law enforcement official. They put it out over their radio to keep an eye on him – and that information was passed to Secret Service as well, according to the source.
Multiple law enforcement sources told CNN that the shooter had explosive material in his car and residence. The Secret Service does not allow any weapons inside the cordoned off areas of any event. AGR has not responded to questions from CNN about the incident or security.
Authorities have identified the gunman involved in the attack as 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks, who was killed by Secret Service agents at the scene after the shooting.
Multiple law enforcement sources with in-depth knowledge of Secret Service operations have told CNN counter-sniper teams have wide discretion when shooting down a threat.
The Secret Service says there were four counter-sniper teams – two from USSS and two from local law enforcement. The agency says that, at the time of the shooting, Cheatle was in Milwaukee, where this week’s Republican National Convention is being held.
Calls from Congress for probes into security ‘failure’
Republican and Democratic lawmakers are already demanding answers from the agency on the security posture and hearings on the incident.
House Speaker Mike Johnson vowed a “full investigation” of the shooting, featuring testimony from USSS, DHS and the FBI, and two Republicans on the Senate Homeland Security Committee have also called for an investigation.
House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Turner, on CNN’s “State of the Union,” likewise said that Congress had “oversight scrutiny and responsibility,” and said there was a “failure of the overall broader net.”
House Homeland Security Chairman Mark Green focused on the building issue in a letter to the Department of Homeland Security Sunday.
Green sent a letter to DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas requesting documents about Secret Service security plans and their communications by July 19 and a briefing by July 22.
House Oversight Chairman James Comer contacted the Secret Service for a briefing and is calling on Cheatle to appear for a hearing on July 22.
New York Reps. Ritchie Torres, a Democrat, and Mike Lawler, a Republican, are also working to introduce a bill they say would give enhanced USSS protection to Trump, Biden and independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
“As reports continue to emerge, it’s clear that more protection is needed for all major candidates for president,” the pair said in a joint statement provided to CNN.
In a separate scathing letter to the Secret Service director on Sunday, Democratic Rep. Ruben Gallego said that there was a “security failure at the highest level, not seen since the attempted assassination of President Reagan.”
“This cannot happen, and I demand accountability,” Gallego, who is running for an Arizona Senate seat, said.
Secret Service denies claims that it rejected requests for more security for Trump
Secret Service – along with local law enforcement in Pennsylvania who assisted in securing the rally venue, as well as sources close to Trump’s campaign – is denying rumors circulating on social media, including by a Republican member of Congress, that the agency had denied requests from Trump’s team for more security.
In a statement, the Secret Service said the detail had been increased recently.
“There’s an untrue assertion that a member of the former President’s team requested additional security resources and that those were rebuffed,” said Secret Service spokesman Anthony Guglielmi. “This is absolutely false. In fact, we added protective resources & technology & capabilities as part of the increased campaign travel tempo.”
The FBI also pushed back on the implication on Saturday night.
“There was no additional request for security that was ever denied by the FBI,” Kevin Rojek, the FBI special agent in charge of the Pittsburgh office said during a news conference.
The incident also raises questions about security at the upcoming Republican convention. Recently, the questions over how the Secret Service and law enforcement would treat those carrying firearms was raised at a press conference explaining the RNC security plan.
A local official, Nick DeSiato, made clear due to Wisconsin law, firearms would be allowed in the “soft” perimeter – an area outside the magnetometers that is limited to foot traffic.
Shooting comes after other lapses in protection for high-profile officials
The scrutiny comes as the Secret Service has dealt with security lapses in recent months and years. In May 2023, an intruder gained access to the home of Jake Sullivan, the White House national security adviser, despite his round-the-clock Secret Service protection. Sullivan encountered the intruder in his home and alerted his security detail. Sullivan was unharmed.
On January 6, 2021, then-incoming Vice President Kamala Harris was driven by her security detail yards away from a pipe bomb outside the Democratic National Headquarters. She was evacuated after law enforcement discovered the pipe bomb which was more than 90 minutes after her arrival.
The Secret Service uses intelligence and strategic information to determine security posture.
The agency is not formally part of the intelligence community, and is considered a “consumer” of intelligence, relying heavily on relationships with agencies such as the Director of National Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Intelligence and Analysis.
CORRECTION:This story has been updated with additional details and to correct the distance between the gunman and Donald Trump. It was 150 meters.
Trump Shooter, Thomas Matthew Crooks
The Psyops, Politics and Optics of Assassination
What the Butler shooting reveals
CHARLES JOHNSON
JUL 14, 2024
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Yes, yes, assassinations are bad. Very bad. I’m against them, mostly. Except for the one against Hitler which didn’t work.
I digress.
We’ve been over that when we talked about the assassination of Shinzo Abe. We’ve also talked about how you can make someone a mass shooter and yes, the Butler shooter has all the hallmarks of an IDF operation.
But you don’t come here for that pablum — the “thoughts and prayers” postings. That unity thang. No, you come here for the heavy stuff and most of you enjoy it for free. You’re welcome.
There are three levels of the op:
- Frighten Trump.
- Strengthen the optics around Trump.
- Expose the compromised players who would foment violence in the U.S.
- Frighten Trump.
You’ll note that the shooter wore a Demolition Ranch shirt. That might sound familiar to you as its the place where Omeed Afsarifard hung out with failed congressional candidate, son of the Confederacy Brandon Herrera, aka The AK Guy. Herrera trained with the Russian Special Forces and he is currently under investigation for campaign violations.
Omeed is a gun trafficker. And while it may be too much to say the Demolition Ranch pulled the trigger, it’s pretty clear that “gun influencer” culture needs to go. This is gun porn masquerading as gun rights — a typical foreign op which takes American liberties and contorts them.
A lot of the assumptions here is that the shooter was trying to kill Trump. I’m not so sure that’s true.
No, I think the bullets were meant for the American public, not Trump. And if that’s your frame the bullets hit their intended targets.
I think the shooting was meant to send Trump a message and here it is. It comes from the Mellons, psychological warfare specialist (and Israeli-compromise) Mike Flynn and the naughty Israelis to Trump: “You need to try harder—or we will kill you.”
Of course you’d prefer to hit Trump but his supporters will do nicely. How likely are you to attend another Trump rally now?
- Strengthen the optics around Trump.
- That AP photo. The photographer is more than a little sus. The effect is to have you rally around the flag. There are definite shades of 9-11 aftermath here. We have a Murdoch property (New York Post) publishing the shooter’s name. We have TMZ, hosted by the very Israeli and secretly Trumpist Harvey Levin, and lots of photos from Evan Vucci from the AP, which is the more compromised of the pro-Israel press. Evan’s boss won a Putlizer for Monica Lewinsky coverage. OK, then.
A photo that goes a little too hard.
- That AP photo. The photographer is more than a little sus. The effect is to have you rally around the flag. There are definite shades of 9-11 aftermath here. We have a Murdoch property (New York Post) publishing the shooter’s name. We have TMZ, hosted by the very Israeli and secretly Trumpist Harvey Levin, and lots of photos from Evan Vucci from the AP, which is the more compromised of the pro-Israel press. Evan’s boss won a Putlizer for Monica Lewinsky coverage. OK, then.
It’s also named for General Butler who fell at the Battle of Wabash which was the bloodiest defeat at the hands of the Native Americans. Of the 1,000 officers and men that St. Clair led into battle, only 24 escaped unharmed. The shooter meant to hit Americans, too.
- Expose compromised players who would drag us into a civil war.
There’s been regime change in the UK and will soon be similar efforts afoot in Israel. You can see the efforts by Google to buy Wiz as a part of that.
Part of the $20B to Israel deal is to help IDF take out Bibi in exchange for IDing pro-IDF, pro-civil war players. The Israelis, in other words, are burning a lot of their assets.
Assassination politics is how things move in Israel and indeed, in much of the world. Be real. Bibi helped kill Rabin.
Rabin “never knew it was one of his people who shot him in the back” and I suspect the same thing is true for Trump. It’s his supporters he has to fear the most. It looks to as if Thomas Matthew Crooks is Scottish-Jewish and a registered Republican.
There’s lots of Israeli-compromised law enforcement in the United States. What do you think all that IDF training is for? It’s to import the Occupation here.
The more interesting question here is what will happen when Netanyahu comes to visit later this month.
Will President Biden enforce the International Criminal Court’s arrest warrant against Netanyahu after all?
First they tried to coup Biden — he’s old, or something — then they tried to kill Trump and his supporters.
“All the world’s a stage,” especially politics.
Especially politics.
Damn
who did she steal this statement from???Who was the ghostwriter for her statement? Anyone know?
Melania Trump Responds to Trump Assassination Attempt
Melania Trump has just addressed the violent shooting that almost took her husband’s life Saturday.www.tmz.com
