Sports Cacs Cacing: Mark Cuban: 'I'm bigoted in a lot of different ways'
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You don't think the feminine acting Jew is afraid of a skinhead?
I was taught as a kid white folks are scared of a black male in a hoodie. In my 30s I appreciate the lessons I was taught about being a Black male in America. It's reality, whether we agree or not.
Scum
people keep saying they want an HONEST discussion and discourse on race and such but the second someone says some HONEST shit head wanna shut down
the thing is, we don't even need to be doing anything other than be bigger than them and we're scary.
that's it.
that's it.
the thing is, we don't even need to be doing anything other than be bigger than them and we're scary.
that's it.
Just think of how many Black men died for not reason other than being Black
People who judge people for themselves, and probably haven't had anything happen to them by a young black kid in a hoodie
it's interesting to see how some of yall feel the same way they do like it's normal.
when i see young black kids or a young black kid in a hoodie it means he has a hoodie on, that's what i see. and i see it all the time.
Talib Kweli's tweets earlier he was saying he respects Mark Cuban for being honest
Not sure how i feel about respecting the cac for saying something we already knew.
Not sure how i feel about respecting the cac for saying something we already knew.
Just think of how many Black men died for not reason other than being Black
It's still happening today and the law justifies it because it's understandable based on the stereotype for you to be scared.
Because of the stereotype it's justifiable to spot a black kid in a hoodie walking minding his own business, ignore requests from proper authorities to stop stalking the kid, confront the kid and shoot and kill the kid.
That's understandable because what else would a black kid in a hoddie be doing other than scouting out the neighborhood that he's in looking to see how he could rob and kill and rape and murder.
this isn't my opinion. this is what the news, this is what the jury, and this is what the court has said.
the thing is, we don't even need to be doing anything other than be bigger than them and we're scary.
that's it.
Dude I'm fucked then. I ALWAYS wear a hoodie.
My job, we sell wine/champagne.... My warehouse is 58° year round. I'm trying to stay warm so even in Houston's hottest days I'm still rocking my hoodie n beanie hat. I'm so used to wearing them that I'll get in my car n go grab lunch or walk up to the deli with that shit still on.
people look at me like I have a tail when I walk up wearing that...... I'm waiting on somebody to say something so I can light into they ass. I already tore into some CAC at the drug store asking me about my sagging jeans...I wish a mufucca would question my hoodie 
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Dude I'm fucked then. I ALWAYS wear a hoodie.
My job, we sell wine/champagne.... My warehouse is 58° year round. I'm trying to stay warm so even in Houston's hottest days I'm still rocking my hoodie n beanie hat. I'm so used to wearing them that I'll get in my car n go grab lunch or walk up to the deli with that shit still on.
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We should all wear pea coats.
and fuck up the industry.
It's the same principles as if you're a kid and your parent says if you tell the truth you won't get in trouble and then you get your ass whooped
he doesn't get points for telling the truth. the truth we already knew. its just confirmed instead of speculating.
We have the right to discuss this shit, If i say fuck you and your family and i hope you all die, you got the right to say well fuck you too.. i can't turn around and go see! that's why i don't tell the truth.. cause now you'll be all mad at what i say.
yea
motherfucker
He always feels the need to be the contrarian
I hear the same underlying message with Cuban and Sterling "I fear black men" therefore my actions or ideas are justified. If you're not actively assimilating to calm CACs nerves the majority feel similarly
This is the CAC strikes back...I knew Sterling losing his "property" over private comments was going to be opposed on all levels
Only the beginning
This is the CAC strikes back...I knew Sterling losing his "property" over private comments was going to be opposed on all levels
Only the beginning
Horrible timing. This is how things get misconstrued. Damnit Mark, can you please hire a fucking PR team? Dudes become billionaires, forget not all of their decisions got them there
he ain't forget
that's why he said what he said. he got a lot of private calls thanking him for being brave enough to say what they felt.
I found the back n forth tweets between Mark Cuban & Bomani Jones. I think I got them all:
Bomani Jones (@bomani_jones) tweeted at 7:52am - 22 May 14:
cuban did punk out with that “i’m scared of white guys with tattoos” point, too. not the same as a hooded sweatshirt, slugger. (https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/469460707915075584)
Mark Cuban (@mcuban) tweeted at 8:34am - 22 May 14:
. @bomani_jones what would make you cross the street in fear late at night? Anything? (https://twitter.com/mcuban/status/469471263451136001)
Bomani Jones (@bomani_jones) tweeted at 8:34am - 22 May 14:
@mcuban not a person, no. as i said, if it’s like that, the person’s coming with you. i’m not that fast or in running shame. it’d be futile. (https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/469471483782512640)
Mark Cuban (@mcuban) tweeted at 8:36am - 22 May 14:
. @bomani_jones so you fear no one because it's pointless to do so,? Am I understanding you correctly? (https://twitter.com/mcuban/status/469471891166887937)
Bomani Jones (@bomani_jones) tweeted at 8:37am - 22 May 14:
@mcuban i’m not fearless. but i’m not crossing the street. past that, though: damn sure not cuz someone’s got a hoodie on. (https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/469472180141850624)
Bomani Jones (@bomani_jones) tweeted at 8:37am - 22 May 14:
@mcuban and i say that as someone who’s been robbed at gunpoint by someone in a hoodie. (https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/469472240007118848)
Mark Cuban (@mcuban) tweeted at 8:43am - 22 May 14:
. @bomani_jones you're trying to make this about a Hoodie. You know damn well its not. It's about whatever makes You feel threatened (https://twitter.com/mcuban/status/469473668616032256)
Bomani Jones (@bomani_jones) tweeted at 8:44am - 22 May 14:
@mcuban no, i’m not. that was a fair point i had to make about what you said. and it points to something larger that we say a kid (https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/469473799164137472)
Bomani Jones (@bomani_jones) tweeted at 8:44am - 22 May 14:
@mcuban in a sweatshirt is the same as someone with jailhouse tats. again, not a HUGE deal, but worth pointing out. (https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/469473871033556992)
Bomani Jones (@bomani_jones) tweeted at 8:44am - 22 May 14:
@mcuban you may think i’m “stuck” on it, but i’m not wrong. we can move on from it, though. (https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/469473999567986689)
Mark Cuban (@mcuban) tweeted at 8:49am - 22 May 14:
@bomani_jones when did I ever say jailhouse? Never. That was your comment. (https://twitter.com/mcuban/status/469475181732179970)
tweeted at 8:50am - 22 May 14:
@mcuban so then just a white guy with a benign tattoo on his arm scares you? or is it someone tatted up and down? (https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/469475478286639104)
Bomani Jones (@bomani_jones) tweeted at 8:51am - 22 May 14:
@mcuban i think of those full-on tats as “jailhouse” tats. yes, my word. so just any tattoo? (https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/469475599271329792)
Mark Cuban (@mcuban) tweeted at 9:00am - 22 May 14:
. @bomani_jones now you are being ridiculous and I have to say that I don't believe you when you said you watched the interview. (https://twitter.com/mcuban/status/469477888849641472)
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Bomani Jones (@bomani_jones) tweeted at 7:52am - 22 May 14:
cuban did punk out with that “i’m scared of white guys with tattoos” point, too. not the same as a hooded sweatshirt, slugger. (https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/469460707915075584)
Mark Cuban (@mcuban) tweeted at 8:34am - 22 May 14:
. @bomani_jones what would make you cross the street in fear late at night? Anything? (https://twitter.com/mcuban/status/469471263451136001)
Bomani Jones (@bomani_jones) tweeted at 8:34am - 22 May 14:
@mcuban not a person, no. as i said, if it’s like that, the person’s coming with you. i’m not that fast or in running shame. it’d be futile. (https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/469471483782512640)
Mark Cuban (@mcuban) tweeted at 8:36am - 22 May 14:
. @bomani_jones so you fear no one because it's pointless to do so,? Am I understanding you correctly? (https://twitter.com/mcuban/status/469471891166887937)
Bomani Jones (@bomani_jones) tweeted at 8:37am - 22 May 14:
@mcuban i’m not fearless. but i’m not crossing the street. past that, though: damn sure not cuz someone’s got a hoodie on. (https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/469472180141850624)
Bomani Jones (@bomani_jones) tweeted at 8:37am - 22 May 14:
@mcuban and i say that as someone who’s been robbed at gunpoint by someone in a hoodie. (https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/469472240007118848)
Mark Cuban (@mcuban) tweeted at 8:43am - 22 May 14:
. @bomani_jones you're trying to make this about a Hoodie. You know damn well its not. It's about whatever makes You feel threatened (https://twitter.com/mcuban/status/469473668616032256)
Bomani Jones (@bomani_jones) tweeted at 8:44am - 22 May 14:
@mcuban no, i’m not. that was a fair point i had to make about what you said. and it points to something larger that we say a kid (https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/469473799164137472)
Bomani Jones (@bomani_jones) tweeted at 8:44am - 22 May 14:
@mcuban in a sweatshirt is the same as someone with jailhouse tats. again, not a HUGE deal, but worth pointing out. (https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/469473871033556992)
Bomani Jones (@bomani_jones) tweeted at 8:44am - 22 May 14:
@mcuban you may think i’m “stuck” on it, but i’m not wrong. we can move on from it, though. (https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/469473999567986689)
Mark Cuban (@mcuban) tweeted at 8:49am - 22 May 14:
@bomani_jones when did I ever say jailhouse? Never. That was your comment. (https://twitter.com/mcuban/status/469475181732179970)
tweeted at 8:50am - 22 May 14:
@mcuban so then just a white guy with a benign tattoo on his arm scares you? or is it someone tatted up and down? (https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/469475478286639104)
Bomani Jones (@bomani_jones) tweeted at 8:51am - 22 May 14:
@mcuban i think of those full-on tats as “jailhouse” tats. yes, my word. so just any tattoo? (https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/469475599271329792)
Mark Cuban (@mcuban) tweeted at 9:00am - 22 May 14:
. @bomani_jones now you are being ridiculous and I have to say that I don't believe you when you said you watched the interview. (https://twitter.com/mcuban/status/469477888849641472)
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that's what I got on right now! I think i got the flu so I need something warmer.... Wearing both now, pea coat over the hoodie.Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk
Right. Funny how niggas talk all this big time shit on board and be scary as fuck mosy of da time of their own kind.
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Presentation matters huh?
Can someone please ask the deballed spineless Screaming A. Smith how this man who always presented himself well admitted to dealing with the same shit as Trayvon?
Well that didn't take long..
Mark Cuban Apologizes to Trayvon Martin Family
Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban apologized Thursday to Trayvon Martin's family over his choice of words in a videotaped interview in which he addressed bigotry and prejudice.
Cuban even revealed some of his own prejudices in the interview with Inc. magazine, and said he believes everyone has "prejudices and bigotries" on some level. But after his words — which came with the NBA still dealing with the fallout over racist remarks made by now-banned Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling — created a stir in social media and other circles, Cuban took to Twitter to offer his apology.
"In hindsight I should have used different examples," Cuban wrote. "I didn't consider the Trayvon Martin family, and I apologize to them for that."
Cuban also said he stands by the substance of the interview.
Martin was the black Florida teen who was shot and killed by neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman in February 2012. Martin was wearing a hooded sweatshirt — commonly called a "hoodie" — that night, and that particular piece of clothing became a rallying cry for those who demanded justice.
Zimmerman was eventually acquitted.
"We're all prejudiced in one way or the other," Cuban said in the Inc. interview. "If I see a black kid in a hoodie and it's late at night, I'm walking to the other side of the street. And if on that side of the street, there's a guy that has tattoos all over his face — white guy, bald head, tattoos everywhere — I'm walking back to the other side of the street. And the list goes on of stereotypes that we all live up to and are fearful of."
When shown that excerpt of the interview Thursday, Chris Bosh of the Miami Heat cringed.
"It's just a sensitive time," Bosh said.
Cuban has not revealed how he will vote on June 3, when NBA owners are scheduled to cast ballots on a motion to oust Sterling and force him to sell the Clippers. Cuban has called the comments made by Sterling "abhorrent," adding that there is "no place for racism in the NBA, any business I'm associated with."
Cuban has, however, cautioned that the Sterling matter is a "very slippery slope."
"While we all have our prejudices and bigotries, we have to learn that it's an issue that we have to control," Cuban told Inc. "It's part of my responsibility as an entrepreneur to try to solve it, not just to kick the problem down the road because it does my company no good, does my customers no good, does society no good if my response to somebody and their racism or bigotry is to say 'It's not right for you to be here, go take your attitude somewhere else.'"
Cuban also told Inc. that he knows he is not perfect, and that "it's not appropriate for me to throw stones." The magazine has a 2½-minute clip of Cuban speaking about the topics on its web site, along with about an hourlong appearance — with the Mavs owner discussing many matters — at its Growco Conference in Nashville on Wednesday.
"We're a lot less tolerant of different views and it's not necessarily easy for everybody to adopt or adapt or evolve," Cuban said.
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Mark Cuban Apologizes to Trayvon Martin Family
Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban apologized Thursday to Trayvon Martin's family over his choice of words in a videotaped interview in which he addressed bigotry and prejudice.
Cuban even revealed some of his own prejudices in the interview with Inc. magazine, and said he believes everyone has "prejudices and bigotries" on some level. But after his words — which came with the NBA still dealing with the fallout over racist remarks made by now-banned Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling — created a stir in social media and other circles, Cuban took to Twitter to offer his apology.
"In hindsight I should have used different examples," Cuban wrote. "I didn't consider the Trayvon Martin family, and I apologize to them for that."
Cuban also said he stands by the substance of the interview.
Martin was the black Florida teen who was shot and killed by neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman in February 2012. Martin was wearing a hooded sweatshirt — commonly called a "hoodie" — that night, and that particular piece of clothing became a rallying cry for those who demanded justice.
Zimmerman was eventually acquitted.
"We're all prejudiced in one way or the other," Cuban said in the Inc. interview. "If I see a black kid in a hoodie and it's late at night, I'm walking to the other side of the street. And if on that side of the street, there's a guy that has tattoos all over his face — white guy, bald head, tattoos everywhere — I'm walking back to the other side of the street. And the list goes on of stereotypes that we all live up to and are fearful of."
When shown that excerpt of the interview Thursday, Chris Bosh of the Miami Heat cringed.
"It's just a sensitive time," Bosh said.
Cuban has not revealed how he will vote on June 3, when NBA owners are scheduled to cast ballots on a motion to oust Sterling and force him to sell the Clippers. Cuban has called the comments made by Sterling "abhorrent," adding that there is "no place for racism in the NBA, any business I'm associated with."
Cuban has, however, cautioned that the Sterling matter is a "very slippery slope."
"While we all have our prejudices and bigotries, we have to learn that it's an issue that we have to control," Cuban told Inc. "It's part of my responsibility as an entrepreneur to try to solve it, not just to kick the problem down the road because it does my company no good, does my customers no good, does society no good if my response to somebody and their racism or bigotry is to say 'It's not right for you to be here, go take your attitude somewhere else.'"
Cuban also told Inc. that he knows he is not perfect, and that "it's not appropriate for me to throw stones." The magazine has a 2½-minute clip of Cuban speaking about the topics on its web site, along with about an hourlong appearance — with the Mavs owner discussing many matters — at its Growco Conference in Nashville on Wednesday.
"We're a lot less tolerant of different views and it's not necessarily easy for everybody to adopt or adapt or evolve," Cuban said.
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Presentation matters huh?
Can someone please ask the deballed spineless Screaming A. Smith how this man who always presented himself well admitted to dealing with the same shit as Trayvon?
Sometimes Stephen A makes good points and other times I feel like he just likes to hear himself talk. What he was talking about made no fucking sense at all to me.
That Bomani Jones interview on The Dan Patrick show was good. He made some good points. A lot of us do have stereotypes but I have mad a conscious decision to actually hang out with white folks in my everyday life, not just at work. I don't think all white folks are racist but I know a lot of black folks who do. But a lot of those black folks don't even hang around white folks except at work. Its the same for most whites as well. You find out you have more in common than you think. Cuban's problem is he sounded like he generalized all black men wearing a hoodie are criminals, once people heard that they didn't hear anything else he was trying to say.
I truly hope my brothers and sisters understand that THIS is a big step.
They are going to try to downplay and say it is an over reaction and we are being sensitive and this is a slippery slope and we are setting a dangerous precedent.
bullshit.
We need to keep going...start flexing our economic muscles now...
insist the vote is PUBLIC.
they want tax breaks, eminent domain, bonds and public funding?
They want anti-trust exemption?
They want major advertising and multi-billion dollar TV deals and endorsements?
Well this is the price.
Lets keep this up.
And also remember who white and BLACK supported Cuban's nonsense.
Remember...
because when the time comes they will be the FIRST to distract us.
I'm gonna take a different tact on what Cuban said in regards to his own racism.
In reading that article this morning, the first thing that came to my mind was what (in)famous New York lawyer told his daughters in the documentary, "WILLIAM KUNTSLER: DISTURBING THE UNIVERSE".
If I recall, he told his daughters that ALL White People are racist. Including them. He said that they are blind to the depth of their own prejudices. And as long as that blindness exist and isn't dealt with, there's never going to be any such thing as fairness (or something to that effect).
That shit stuck with me after seeing that doc.
I think Cuban, in his own loud-mouth, unthinking way, was trying to state this. But Dude was never one to use any PR people. But I so give him credit for speaking of those deep inner thoughts.
And I feel all of this is smokescreen shit anyway.
We can call Sterling, Cuban, all the NBA (and other sports) owners all we want.
But are WE going to stop attending and watching games?
Stop buying jerseys, sneakers, team tats, etc.
Are Hoop-Bitches going to stop huddling at arenas, outside clubs trying to be the latest baby mommas for Black Athletes?
Really.
What are WE prepared to do?
In reading that article this morning, the first thing that came to my mind was what (in)famous New York lawyer told his daughters in the documentary, "WILLIAM KUNTSLER: DISTURBING THE UNIVERSE".
If I recall, he told his daughters that ALL White People are racist. Including them. He said that they are blind to the depth of their own prejudices. And as long as that blindness exist and isn't dealt with, there's never going to be any such thing as fairness (or something to that effect).
That shit stuck with me after seeing that doc.
I think Cuban, in his own loud-mouth, unthinking way, was trying to state this. But Dude was never one to use any PR people. But I so give him credit for speaking of those deep inner thoughts.
And I feel all of this is smokescreen shit anyway.
We can call Sterling, Cuban, all the NBA (and other sports) owners all we want.
But are WE going to stop attending and watching games?
Stop buying jerseys, sneakers, team tats, etc.
Are Hoop-Bitches going to stop huddling at arenas, outside clubs trying to be the latest baby mommas for Black Athletes?
Really.
What are WE prepared to do?
people keep saying they want an HONEST discussion and discourse on race and such but the second someone says some HONEST shit head wanna shut down
Donald Sterling has been making racist comments and decisions for decades. The NBA ignored it, the NAACP ignored it, the Clippers organization ignored it and now for some reason it's come front and center. Yes, he was exposed on tape, but so have a lot of other white people lately. None of them are facing the consequences Sterling is so why is he the only one getting punished?
IMO Mark Cuban knows the answer to this and he's trying to cover his ass early before his shit comes out.
I like the Black Eagle's show but I agree with you.
I do hate how he cuts off people mid sentence but its funny, most times he's right on what the caller is about to say. He chalks it up to being in the game for so long that he knows what kind of call it will be.
It bugs me because that's one of my pet peeves, cutting someone off when they're mid sentence. Its disrespectful as fuck.
like i said in another post, fuck that cac cuban, yall havent learned that the average cac male is intimidated by the sight of black male, its all fading now cause they got alot of clown ass niggas out there. if they havent been raised around us or by us, thats how they think. everytime im dickin one of they women down i make em feel it.
I think Cuban's right in that we all have our prejudices and and bigotries. I like the discussion that the country has had of late. The dialogue has began so we all need to talk about it. In talking about it, all sides need to know what our true feelings are. That's they only way we can start to understand why someone feels that way and how we can get pass that. Don't be so quick to be dismissive of someone when they start to reveal something personal like Cuban did. His black hoodie statement was stupid. His real point was to be transparent and reveal that that he had prejudices that he harbors. I wouldn't be surprised if Cubes is trying to protect himself by not just outright withholding support of Sterling. He told yall from jump, it's a slippery slope. All those cats got skeletons. They could easily find themselves in the same situation as Sterling.
I like Cuban, this won't make me hate him. He was being honest and now he needs to explain himself.
White people nowadays hate to discuss race. There are a ton who feel like since they didn't play a role in the past, they don't need to discuss it. That's the problem though. Racism needs to be address on all sides. I just feel like we as a people have to stop being so quick to react but rather be ready to try to understand why a white dude feels that way. It's needs to be debated. It needs to be challenged. We have to be willing to be participants in the discussion also. We can't just sit on the sidelines and just wait for white people to to stop being racists. Look at this thread. I skimmed the post and most of yall are like, fuck Cuban. That won't help advance the discussion of race in this country.
BTW, Mavs ain't signing nobody anyway.
I like Cuban, this won't make me hate him. He was being honest and now he needs to explain himself.
White people nowadays hate to discuss race. There are a ton who feel like since they didn't play a role in the past, they don't need to discuss it. That's the problem though. Racism needs to be address on all sides. I just feel like we as a people have to stop being so quick to react but rather be ready to try to understand why a white dude feels that way. It's needs to be debated. It needs to be challenged. We have to be willing to be participants in the discussion also. We can't just sit on the sidelines and just wait for white people to to stop being racists. Look at this thread. I skimmed the post and most of yall are like, fuck Cuban. That won't help advance the discussion of race in this country.
BTW, Mavs ain't signing nobody anyway.
White people are judged by their best
Black people are judged by their worst
1 bad black person = all black people bad
1 bad white person = 1 bad white person
1 good white person = all white people good
1 good black person = 1 good black person
CAC math
Black people are judged by their worst
1 bad black person = all black people bad
1 bad white person = 1 bad white person
1 good white person = all white people good
1 good black person = 1 good black person
CAC math
people keep saying they want an HONEST discussion and discourse on race and such but the second someone says some HONEST shit head wanna shut down
No I actually appreciate his honesty.....I wish the other white folks would stop acting as if what he said wasn t what they think