Sports Cacs Cacing: Mark Cuban: 'I'm bigoted in a lot of different ways'
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I haven't seen the debate portion yet (he and Dyson) but the show opening he was pretty defensive and spent the entire time talking about "by and large blacks want to keep it real and complain as opposed to work hard" or something similar, along with talking about how kids dress and speak and other bullshit... None of that even addresses the topic.
Until yesterday, i declared myself to a stephen A smith apologist.
I can't even began to support dude for his fuckery over the last 24hrs.
Stephen A is in league with Donald Sterling and Mark Cuban.
He spent the show demonstrating how black people are responsible for racism because of our dress, non-conformity, attitude, laziness, tardiness and unwillingness to work hard as well as our need to be victims.
He is no different than Racist folks. He is full of stereotypes about blacks and he refuses to let Cuban be in association or possession of ill will or intent.
I try to avoid this type of thinking but it is applicable in too many circumstances.
Stephen A is not one of us in his own mind. He is different and better than us in his own mind. He is West Indian. He is that other type of Black man in his own mind.
He is just using this discussion to air out his racial animosity toward the black man of america.
If YT would have said the shit that Stephen A said . . .
Stephen A doesn't love Michael Eric Dyson. He doesn't respect Michael Eric Dyson.
At this time, Stephen A is not an ally. I don't know if he is an enemy.
Those Jew ass Jews have brothers shook.
I can't even began to support dude for his fuckery over the last 24hrs.
Stephen A is in league with Donald Sterling and Mark Cuban.
He spent the show demonstrating how black people are responsible for racism because of our dress, non-conformity, attitude, laziness, tardiness and unwillingness to work hard as well as our need to be victims.
He is no different than Racist folks. He is full of stereotypes about blacks and he refuses to let Cuban be in association or possession of ill will or intent.
I try to avoid this type of thinking but it is applicable in too many circumstances.
Stephen A is not one of us in his own mind. He is different and better than us in his own mind. He is West Indian. He is that other type of Black man in his own mind.
He is just using this discussion to air out his racial animosity toward the black man of america.
If YT would have said the shit that Stephen A said . . .
Stephen A doesn't love Michael Eric Dyson. He doesn't respect Michael Eric Dyson.
At this time, Stephen A is not an ally. I don't know if he is an enemy.
Those Jew ass Jews have brothers shook.
I haven't seen the debate portion yet (he and Dyson) but the show opening he was pretty defensive and spent the entire time talking about "by and large blacks want to keep it real and complain as opposed to work hard" or something similar, along with talking about how kids dress and speak and other bullshit... None of that even addresses the topic.
The debate between he and Dyson is coming up at the top of the hour.
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We didn't just meet these people. We don't need them to say a thing to know how they feel. They pray to themselves so you know they think we are beneath them.
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Im listening to the first segment,right now and Stephen A keeps bring up about appearances on job interviews,but what does that have to do with Cuban's comments...
I don't understand it at all...
I don't understand it at all...
So according to Stephen A,a hoodie is the same as a white guy having a bunch of tattoos.......
Y'all done hurt Screaming A. Smith's feelings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKXKccyb2e8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKXKccyb2e8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
assist
Shaddy...he ain't undercover he been hiding in plain sight.
I cannot defend him anymore.
Wilbon Pissed me off too...cause he friend with Cuban. He was trying way to hard to give him an award for saying everyone has prejudices.
Like that was some stunning revelation.
They trying way to hard...they embarrassing themselves.
Crazy how some'a y'all puss'ass niggas are scared of your own kind.
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That opening dialogue Michael Eric Dyson came in with was VICIOUS. Honestly they could have put the camera on a fish tank for the remainder of the show and it would have been enough because it was so much to process that rebuttal was totally unnecessary.
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He just contradicted himself!
Lol he says that appearance matters but then tells a story about how fly his suit is and how fly he's dressed yet n still a white woman grabbed her purse with him walking behind her.
Come on man you can't have it both ways. Appearance matters huh?
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Lol he says that appearance matters but then tells a story about how fly his suit is and how fly he's dressed yet n still a white woman grabbed her purse with him walking behind her.
Come on man you can't have it both ways. Appearance matters huh?
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stephen a keeps saying my record speaks for itself
YES IT REALLY DOES
YES IT REALLY DOES
Now people my age just be smoking weed
I remember when Whitlock actually called SAS a SELLOUT!!!!
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/...rd-race-racism-skip-bayless-first-take-102612
Memo to ESPN, Stephen A.: Enough BS
Stephen A. Smith and ESPN think we forgot the fool-me idiom. Shame on them.
For the second time in less than a year, the black beard paid to mask Skip Bayless‘ blatant negro-baiting uttered “N-word, please” on a national-television platform allegedly reserved for non-profane, professional discussion.
The first time was in December during a debate about LeBron James. Smith tweeted a denial. The second time was Thursday, when Smith was discussing Kobe Bryant. Smith, this time, taped a post-show denial.
I’m not going to waste a lot of time breaking down the weakness of Smith’s latest denial. He dropped the N-word. The audio and video speak for themselves. Smith’s laughable denial — saying he's from New York and sometimes speaks too "fastly" — doesn’t even attempt to explain what he said if not “n---a, please.”
Nope. The discussion today should focus on First Take, and why this particular show can’t avoid sprinkling the N-word into its discourse.
Think about it. Across the television landscape, there are hundreds of talk shows. As best I can tell only one show and only one host are struggling to contain their love of the N-word while on national TV. I could be wrong — I don’t watch everything on TV — but is there another TV talk show where a host is annually blurting out the N-word? Are Kornheiser and Wilbon struggling with this? Michael and Kelly? The cast of Around the Horn? Bill O’Reilly? The crew on Morning Joe?
Now, think about this: Stephen A. Smith has been running his mouth on TV for more than a decade. He’s good at it. He’s bright, articulate, passionate and quite informed on the NBA. I’m a Stephen A. Smith fan. I consider Smith a friend. When ESPN gave him his own talk show seven years ago, I thought Smith had a chance to be this generation’s Howard Cosell. When Smith’s show failed, I still believed in his talents. I believed he just needed more seasoning, more knowledge of the sports world beyond the NBA.
My point is that in all of his years of television — including consistent appearances on political talk shows discussing race — there’s only one place where Smith can’t control his desire to say “n---a, please.”
Why? What’s so special about First Take?
It baits Negroes to act like n---as.
That’s the job. For years, ESPN pitted a parade of attention-starved, mostly black stooges against Skip Bayless to legitimize and sanitize Skip’s over-the-top attacks on Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson, LeBron James and all the other low-hanging black fruit Skip could reach from his debate chair. The parade of stooges failed to properly protect Bayless. You could still see he was an insecure, disingenuous version of Glenn Beck.
Recognizing that its black viewers couldn’t resist Skip’s bait, ESPN doubled down, making Smith an equal partner in the show and re-imagining First Take as the black barbershop of sports talk. The rap-music bumpers, the black, eye-candy female host, the guest appearances by rappers and Smith are all an attempt to make Skip’s negro-baiting palatable, marketable and justifiable.
The show has been dumbed down and ghetto-ized. An environment has been created that entices Smith and others to bojangle and stoop to Bayless’ level of discourse. Terrell Suggs was celebrated for coming on the show and calling Bayless a “douchebag.”
Do not misconstrue my main point. In my opinion, Skip Bayless is not the bad guy. He is what he is. He’s never hid it. He will unfairly climb the back of any athlete — regardless of color — to compensate for his personal demons and insecurities. Bayless exposed himself decades ago when he groundlessly suggested a white, high-profile NFL quarterback was gay.
No. Stephen A. Smith is the villain in this scenario. Smith has enormous broadcasting talent. Dancing for Bayless is beneath Smith. He also has the intellect to see how ESPN and Bayless are using him. Smith could be the Adam Schefter/Chris Mortensen of the NBA, a high-paid, invaluable information-and-insight guru. But taking on Yahoo’s Adrian Wojnarowski is hard work. Dancing for Bayless is easy. Being half of ESPN’s hip hop, N-word-dropping sports show makes you more popular with celebrities. It’s fun.
Smith has fallen for the okeydoke.
You don’t have to. You were fooled the first time. And maybe you were fooled when ESPN took no action against Mike Greenberg when he said Martin Luther Coon on Martin Luther King’s national holiday.
I’m not calling for Smith to be fired. He doesn’t deserve that. But don’t bring me this Mickey Mouse $h*# that he didn’t say it. Don’t do it when you unfairly suspended Max Bretos for a month for uttering a cliche about a flaw in Jeremy Lin’s armor.
"We asked Stephen A. what he said when the confusion arose over his remarks on First Take,” an ESPN executive told Dan Patrick’s radio show Friday morning. “He vehemently denied using any inappropriate language. We removed that part from the First Take re-air to avoid creating additional confusion if people misunderstood him . . . We believe him and no further action will occur."
Well, that settles it. I vehemently deny ever overeating! I’m a Midwesterner, and I chew my food really fast, so it occasionally appears I’m overeating.
I’m no fool. This is a horrendous look for black journalists. Where are the standards? How will we have any credibility the next time a white broadcaster says anything remotely racist if we sit quiet while Smith gets away with this?
Smith owes us an apology and a few days off work to think about how to properly and respectfully use the immense broadcasting talents he’s been blessed with.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/...rd-race-racism-skip-bayless-first-take-102612
Memo to ESPN, Stephen A.: Enough BS
Stephen A. Smith and ESPN think we forgot the fool-me idiom. Shame on them.
For the second time in less than a year, the black beard paid to mask Skip Bayless‘ blatant negro-baiting uttered “N-word, please” on a national-television platform allegedly reserved for non-profane, professional discussion.
The first time was in December during a debate about LeBron James. Smith tweeted a denial. The second time was Thursday, when Smith was discussing Kobe Bryant. Smith, this time, taped a post-show denial.
I’m not going to waste a lot of time breaking down the weakness of Smith’s latest denial. He dropped the N-word. The audio and video speak for themselves. Smith’s laughable denial — saying he's from New York and sometimes speaks too "fastly" — doesn’t even attempt to explain what he said if not “n---a, please.”
Nope. The discussion today should focus on First Take, and why this particular show can’t avoid sprinkling the N-word into its discourse.
Think about it. Across the television landscape, there are hundreds of talk shows. As best I can tell only one show and only one host are struggling to contain their love of the N-word while on national TV. I could be wrong — I don’t watch everything on TV — but is there another TV talk show where a host is annually blurting out the N-word? Are Kornheiser and Wilbon struggling with this? Michael and Kelly? The cast of Around the Horn? Bill O’Reilly? The crew on Morning Joe?
Now, think about this: Stephen A. Smith has been running his mouth on TV for more than a decade. He’s good at it. He’s bright, articulate, passionate and quite informed on the NBA. I’m a Stephen A. Smith fan. I consider Smith a friend. When ESPN gave him his own talk show seven years ago, I thought Smith had a chance to be this generation’s Howard Cosell. When Smith’s show failed, I still believed in his talents. I believed he just needed more seasoning, more knowledge of the sports world beyond the NBA.
My point is that in all of his years of television — including consistent appearances on political talk shows discussing race — there’s only one place where Smith can’t control his desire to say “n---a, please.”
Why? What’s so special about First Take?
It baits Negroes to act like n---as.
That’s the job. For years, ESPN pitted a parade of attention-starved, mostly black stooges against Skip Bayless to legitimize and sanitize Skip’s over-the-top attacks on Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson, LeBron James and all the other low-hanging black fruit Skip could reach from his debate chair. The parade of stooges failed to properly protect Bayless. You could still see he was an insecure, disingenuous version of Glenn Beck.
Enter Stephen A. Smith, desperate to re-emerge as a high-six-figures TV celebrity, desperate for his next hit from the TV crack pipe. Smith campaigned for the role of Skip’s beard.
Recognizing that its black viewers couldn’t resist Skip’s bait, ESPN doubled down, making Smith an equal partner in the show and re-imagining First Take as the black barbershop of sports talk. The rap-music bumpers, the black, eye-candy female host, the guest appearances by rappers and Smith are all an attempt to make Skip’s negro-baiting palatable, marketable and justifiable.
The show has been dumbed down and ghetto-ized. An environment has been created that entices Smith and others to bojangle and stoop to Bayless’ level of discourse. Terrell Suggs was celebrated for coming on the show and calling Bayless a “douchebag.”
Do not misconstrue my main point. In my opinion, Skip Bayless is not the bad guy. He is what he is. He’s never hid it. He will unfairly climb the back of any athlete — regardless of color — to compensate for his personal demons and insecurities. Bayless exposed himself decades ago when he groundlessly suggested a white, high-profile NFL quarterback was gay.
No. Stephen A. Smith is the villain in this scenario. Smith has enormous broadcasting talent. Dancing for Bayless is beneath Smith. He also has the intellect to see how ESPN and Bayless are using him. Smith could be the Adam Schefter/Chris Mortensen of the NBA, a high-paid, invaluable information-and-insight guru. But taking on Yahoo’s Adrian Wojnarowski is hard work. Dancing for Bayless is easy. Being half of ESPN’s hip hop, N-word-dropping sports show makes you more popular with celebrities. It’s fun.
Smith has fallen for the okeydoke.
You don’t have to. You were fooled the first time. And maybe you were fooled when ESPN took no action against Mike Greenberg when he said Martin Luther Coon on Martin Luther King’s national holiday.
I’m not calling for Smith to be fired. He doesn’t deserve that. But don’t bring me this Mickey Mouse $h*# that he didn’t say it. Don’t do it when you unfairly suspended Max Bretos for a month for uttering a cliche about a flaw in Jeremy Lin’s armor.
"We asked Stephen A. what he said when the confusion arose over his remarks on First Take,” an ESPN executive told Dan Patrick’s radio show Friday morning. “He vehemently denied using any inappropriate language. We removed that part from the First Take re-air to avoid creating additional confusion if people misunderstood him . . . We believe him and no further action will occur."
Well, that settles it. I vehemently deny ever overeating! I’m a Midwesterner, and I chew my food really fast, so it occasionally appears I’m overeating.
I’m no fool. This is a horrendous look for black journalists. Where are the standards? How will we have any credibility the next time a white broadcaster says anything remotely racist if we sit quiet while Smith gets away with this?
Smith owes us an apology and a few days off work to think about how to properly and respectfully use the immense broadcasting talents he’s been blessed with.
S.A. Smith still trying to justify or divert the attention away from bs racist perceptions by using Black folks prejudice views of Whites or the fact that Mark Cuban talked about a Tatted up bald white guy....lol....smh. Its ok to have balance within discourse...but this Stockholm syndrome/Captain Save 'Em mentality that certain Blacks have for whites is pathetic.
From what i see.....White folks talk about their fears of Blacks...then follow it up by using those "fears" to justify murder in a court room. Thats why i dont want to hear their bs. They dont want conversation...they want things to go back to how it used to be; when they could freely call Blacks nig-gers...rape women and kids (boys included) and hang Black men from trees. They dont want freedom to CONVERSE....THEY WANT THE FREEDOM TO TREAT BLACKS HOW THEIR ANCESTORS USED TO TREAT US IN THE PAST. Dont get it twisted..
I think we're all aware of how Black Men...... AS A WHOLE.....are profiled. Not just by Whites, but by our own people as well. And yeah....attire does matter depending on the occasion. But lets keep it real! It aint about the hoody or tatts...its more abut whos wearing the hoody and tatts. The same people that perceived me as a worthless nig-ger with the hoody on, stil perceived me as a worthless nig-ger once i put my suit on and joined corporate America. We can try to justify this dumb shit by making it seem as if its about the cloths or culture..but in essence its mainly about White folks just doing what they do. And thats being ignorant cave dwellers.
Btw....
I find it funny that about 1-2 years ago S.A. Smith told Skip Bayless not worry about what folks typed about him on Twitter, when Jalen Rose busted him out about his mediocre basketball stats, but now S.A. Smith is responding to the comments VIA Twitter, everyday. Obviously the coon shit is getting to him.
Deep down inside coonish Black folks are aware of their bs. Theyve worked around White people all of their lives..trying to fit in...date White Women...etc etc....but deep down inside their low self esteem souls they realize that no matter how hard they try to make other folks comfortable...by wearing suits..shitting on other Blacks ..speaking with a nasally sounding voice... etc etc.....White folks stil aint gonna let them in the club. S.A. Smith falls into that category.
From what i see.....White folks talk about their fears of Blacks...then follow it up by using those "fears" to justify murder in a court room. Thats why i dont want to hear their bs. They dont want conversation...they want things to go back to how it used to be; when they could freely call Blacks nig-gers...rape women and kids (boys included) and hang Black men from trees. They dont want freedom to CONVERSE....THEY WANT THE FREEDOM TO TREAT BLACKS HOW THEIR ANCESTORS USED TO TREAT US IN THE PAST. Dont get it twisted..
I think we're all aware of how Black Men...... AS A WHOLE.....are profiled. Not just by Whites, but by our own people as well. And yeah....attire does matter depending on the occasion. But lets keep it real! It aint about the hoody or tatts...its more abut whos wearing the hoody and tatts. The same people that perceived me as a worthless nig-ger with the hoody on, stil perceived me as a worthless nig-ger once i put my suit on and joined corporate America. We can try to justify this dumb shit by making it seem as if its about the cloths or culture..but in essence its mainly about White folks just doing what they do. And thats being ignorant cave dwellers.
Btw....
I find it funny that about 1-2 years ago S.A. Smith told Skip Bayless not worry about what folks typed about him on Twitter, when Jalen Rose busted him out about his mediocre basketball stats, but now S.A. Smith is responding to the comments VIA Twitter, everyday. Obviously the coon shit is getting to him.
Deep down inside coonish Black folks are aware of their bs. Theyve worked around White people all of their lives..trying to fit in...date White Women...etc etc....but deep down inside their low self esteem souls they realize that no matter how hard they try to make other folks comfortable...by wearing suits..shitting on other Blacks ..speaking with a nasally sounding voice... etc etc.....White folks stil aint gonna let them in the club. S.A. Smith falls into that category.
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SAS is being exposed as a fool.
case in point
He don't get it when these white dudes 'compliment' his vocabulary.
dude always gets in trouble when he uses up the few polysyllabic words he memorized...acquiesce, capitulate, etc...once he runs out of words he tires to MAKE them fit where they really shouldn't.
Caliendo does it to his damn FACE and he laughs.
In trying to defend his position BADLY he has used every tired Black stereotype even a few Cuban& Barkley would be smart enough to avoid...
rap music? low hanging pants? youknowwhatimsayin? using slang?
really man?
case in point
He don't get it when these white dudes 'compliment' his vocabulary.
dude always gets in trouble when he uses up the few polysyllabic words he memorized...acquiesce, capitulate, etc...once he runs out of words he tires to MAKE them fit where they really shouldn't.
Caliendo does it to his damn FACE and he laughs.
In trying to defend his position BADLY he has used every tired Black stereotype even a few Cuban& Barkley would be smart enough to avoid...
rap music? low hanging pants? youknowwhatimsayin? using slang?
really man?
we need someone to post it as soon as its available.
We need to get Stephan a smith off the air
We need a bluntbit report with him
He needs to be removed
We need a bluntbit report with him
He needs to be removed
i recorded it cause i knew i wouldnt be up at 9am to catch it live. ill try to upload it on youtube and post it here.
Bottom line is SA Smith was stating what White folks and even Pres "Stepin Fetchit" Obama like to always say..and thats how Black folks are irresponsible, how we need to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps, how we need to live by a template created by racist white folks in order to survive, blah blah blah. Dr Dyson basically checked him on all his bs and told him that he made some valid point, but in essence the conversation shouldnt be about cloths, irresponsibility, Black folks making prejudice comment etc etc...but instead it should be about the topic of discussion. and the topic of discussion was white folks wanting things to be like it used to be; Jim crows laws, freedom to kill Blacks, call them nig-gers in public etc etc.
SA Smith..and those like him....want to tackle the easy targets, poor uneducated Black folks, but act like pussies when its time to tackle the elitist thats feeding the bs for profit or use the bs the preach to heal inferior whites souls.
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this shit is hilarious.
SA Smith was trying control his posture and the whole nine. That non verbal body language is something to marvel!! SA Smith knew he was getting schooled on live TV. He looked mad uncomfortable. Dr Dyson even cracked a smile a few times when SA Smith tried to follow him up.
Btw....I hope dumbfounded folks learned a lesson from that discussion and didnt take it as two Black Men going at each other. A lot could be learned from both SA SMith and Dr Dyson.
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Preach!!!!!!
I listened to it on ESPN's website ...all I could do is shake my head...
This dude was rambling on about presentation all this other bullshit that has nothing do with the comment made by Cuban....He really believes that wearing a suit and tie will somehow subside white people's fear of black men..
And for him to say that a black man wearing a hoodie is the equivalent of a white man having tattoos on his face...I had to pause it for awhile and leave the computer,because I was pissed off by that statement...
I listened to it on ESPN's website ...all I could do is shake my head...
This dude was rambling on about presentation all this other bullshit that has nothing do with the comment made by Cuban....He really believes that wearing a suit and tie will somehow subside white people's fear of black men..
And for him to say that a black man wearing a hoodie is the equivalent of a white man having tattoos on his face...I had to pause it for awhile and leave the computer,because I was pissed off by that statement...
He isn't defending his position well...
its just as jumbled as Cuban's original words.
He isn't addressing Cuban's points and he isn't able to adequately respond to the opposition.
What SAS is saying has NOTHING to do with what Cuban is talking about.
SAS is using tired stereotypes. He is talking about sagging jeans and using slang and job interviews?
What in the hell does that have to do with the point Cuban himself apologized for?
We ALL understand people have prejudices...that isn't some grand revelation by Cuban.
What exposed Cuban is the SPECIFIC comparison he chose to use...
he KNEW he was going to be interviewed, he KNEW that he had previously made comments attempting to defend Sterling.
So if Cuban wants to continue with his 'smartest guy in the room' act then he has the suffer the consequences when he is called out.
SAS is wrong...not because we should be aware of our surroundings, realize our appearance effects how others treat us etc.
He's wrong because he KNOWS that Cuban was speaking from a position of power, of someone fully aware of how racism is institutionalized in this country and how he included has benefited and continued to benefit from it, that White people need to justify their years of oppression and enslavement of our people yet be seen as innocent and he pandered to that.
Ya'll want to fall for the okey doke fine...but remember all that basic bullsh*t SAS was spewing is exctly what THEY gonna use to continue to divide and conquer us.
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In a way this is like my sig playing out in reality. I think this is the closest, at least that I've seen, he has come to admitting to his inner coon.
Me 2!
Thxs
But imma try to get the actual vid.
you need to see SA Smiths non-verbal communication when he was getting schooled.
SHit was hilarious!!
To sum up what SA Smith is trying to say....even though Blacks didnt create a racist system, cant practice REAL racism, didnt create bs racist perceptions about Blacks and are the main group of people on this planet that has experienced EXTREME Racism, we as Black folks should still and all be the group that takes the lead in ending Racism.
Once again.....he took the typical SAFE route and tried to divert the conversation away from holding White folks accountable by talking about Black folks that aint got their shit together. As to say, "if you niggas had your shit together, then White folks would love and respect you."
Like Dyson said...we critique our own people A LOT. SOme times this critique is coming from concern, but a lot of times its coming from self hate. But regardless...these discussions exist within the Black community. SA SMith wants us to broadcast our issues on LIVE TV so we can prove to those outside of our communities, i.e. those that think the worst of us, that we're trying SO HARD to be what they think we should be. I need to prove to you that im not like the rest of the nig-gers.
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