Yeah.... I think Greenie fucked up. I think Espn’s Going to fuck up by moving this show to Espn’s College network when Greenie’s show comes out in April.
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Yeah.... I think Greenie fucked up. I think Espn’s Going to fuck up by moving this show to Espn’s College network when Greenie’s show comes out in April.
here in my it's a little better with espn (Steven A and boatload of other former players) and the Fan finally has prominent blk host with Bart Scott. might b3 miss8ng someone
damn it...
I REALLY like it.
And it messed up my nfl boycott
cause their football convo was fantastic.
forget EVERYTHING I said before
sidebar:
Greeny psssssst...
I CANNOT support SAS
and I cannot believe Will f*cking Cain got his own damn show.
but i DO like the addition of Bart Scott
still listen to Lebatard
can you suggest someone else on ESPN?
but honestly I WISH I had some new different voices...
I am really sick of all the same stuff.
I miss Bomani.
let me shock the hell out of you
Francesca appears on Bill Simmons podcast once a week?
And damn it he is REALLY good.
surprisingly Mike is a good on the BS podcast
but once a week for 20 minutes is doable vs 5 hours every week day
you should check R2D2 podcast with Ryan Rucco and CC Sebathia
But I actually think Bill and Mike together?
Could be the birth on Mike and the Mad Dog 2.0
*funny thing? Bill wanted to do this like 2 years ago.
Bill is a big fan
Bill has co hosted with Mike on his show
and now Mike has a spot on Bill's podcast.
rumor is make will do something in the podcast and I am sure Bill would love if it came from the Ringer
truth.com
Mike Golic actually said...
He doesn't think this is a big deal.
interesting black panther review on Golic & Wingo on ESPN radio right now
What they Say, all I see is a commercial
What they Say, all I see is a commercial
the replacement guy and Mike Golic were giving their reviews...
it was the most uncomfortable exchange of the new regime
they were tap dancing like muthafukas...then getting DEFENSIVE
finally giving the movie 3 out 5 "doughnuts"
and felt compelled to talk with the ONLY Black staff member (on some black friend sh*t)
who promptly called them haters.
And of course, black twitter assembled to drag them.
Honestly I really don't like this idea that EVERYONE HAS TO LIKE Black Panther
We really need to let go of that, cause much of that movie WAS NOT for THEM anyway.
(and it was NOT perfect)
I think white folk getting in trouble (and even some Black folk)
when they try to do some type of community college film school analysis to somehow JUSTIFY their opinion.
Just say I liked or I didn't like it
when they start to try to get all deep...then they get in a whole mess of trouble.
Cause you expose either your ignorance or biases that have NOTHING to do with the actual movie.
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So April 2 Golic and wingo goes to espn news... sports center goes to espn 2 and get up with Mike Greenberg goes to Espn...
So basically they are going to have Golic and Greeny directly competing against each other ..... this is Fucking stupid
So basically they are going to have Golic and Greeny directly competing against each other ..... this is Fucking stupid
Good Morning @fonzerrillii
As surprised as I am about the Golic and Wingo show being a decent show, I never watch it. I watch First things First. I'm anxious to see how Greenburgs show turns out. I always liked the guy and I'm a Jalen Rose fan, so I'm tuning in to see if it's any good.
On another note, will Skip and Shannon ever start a show off without debating how fucked up Lebron James is? Shits getting old.
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Good Morning @fonzerrillii
As surprised as I am about the Golic and Wingo show being a decent show, I never watch it. I watch First things First. I'm anxious to see how Greenburgs show turns out. I always liked the guy and I'm a Jalen Rose fan, so I'm tuning in to see if it's any good.
On another note, will Skip and Shannon ever start a show off without debating how fucked up Lebron James is? Shits getting old.
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Man I keep trying to get into First Things First.... but sometimes Chris Carter gets a little too preachy for me....
Golic & Wingo is pretty much exactly like old school Mike & Mike to me.... It's chill and they talk more about Football.
Im going to check out Greenies show cause like you... I'm a greenie and Jalen Rose fan...
I just have an issue with Espn scheduling two guys that have been working together for 17 years in competing shows for the same viewers....
So Get Up is basically Sportsnation?
My heart sank when I saw Booger Mcfarland
It's not that he is bad, he is just nothing special. As far as the show is concerned, It's just to exciting for me, too much shit happening. I turned to Chris and Nick.HNIC
My heart sank when I saw Booger Mcfarland
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watching it now and it looks like Jalen gonna be the breakout star of the show
reminds me alittle of the best sports show that was on fox sports way back and jalen made a name for himself there
Greenie aint really built for the free-flowing/jokie joke atomosphere. thats really jalen and beadle
I'm going to give it more time, I'm still a Greeny guy and Jalen is the man. I'm a big fan of Jalen and Jacoby
In a few months they will have the kinks worked out and then we will have a good idea what we have.
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I couldn’t stick with it. Jalen can’t save that show.
My heart sank when I saw Booger Mcfarland
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Man this is almost word for fucking word what I said when I turned it on...
It’s the exact same problem that I have with Good Morning Football. I’m not trying to deal with all that noise Six in the morning. I immediately turned to Golic & Wingo. Then while I was watching Golic & Wingo... I got pissed cause it doesn’t make sense for Espn to schedule their shows against each other and also deal with the exact same stories & compete for the same guests. It is just odd. I thought that Greeny’s new show was supposed to be like Espn’s Version of Good Morning America and incorporate Pop culture and other shit besides just sports but it is exactly like Sports Nation.
They did the Top 10 countdown shit and even one of the clips had the Sports Nation (SN) logo at the top right corner. And all of them are talking over each other just like they do on Sportsnation. I like SportsNation but that type of noise works better after work or in the afternoon.
Yeah I don’t know about this show... sadly Espn put all of their Eggs behind it... so it’s going to be where it is for at least a year. They can’t admit that they fucked up. But I wouldn’t be surprised if their aren’t drastic changes...
Like if you are an Old School Mike & Mike fan like myself... you are just going to stick with Golic & Wingo cause it’s exaclty like Mike & Mike.. actually it’s a little better. I get a kick out of the fact that Wingo constantly mispronounces words.
Man, I feel the same way, I can only take Chris in short stints. He acts like the father that knows everything, my way or the highway type attitude sometimes...
The only talk about Lebron and Odell on First things First.
Have you noticed that too...
I think that’s my problem with the other sports shows... it doesn’t feel like there is any insight. It just feels like a bunch of reactions and gimics. That’s why I like Golic & Wingo and Profootball focus. I’ll check in on Get Up ever so often but it’s going to need some changes for me. Right now it’s too Good Morning Football for me. I still can’t believe that Good Morning Football is still showing... I don’t know any football fan that likes it. I rather they show the previous seasons games in the morning like they use to or Put NFL total Access there like it should be.
I think the NFL had an actual show on in the morning before they brought in Good Morning Football. I also think GMF is targeting white viewers. They sure as hell aren't targeting me.
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I don’t get how you have a sport that is 97% black but have a morning sports show with One black dude and not only that.... he is the only one that has actually played the sport. At least bring in other people that played. I actually think the chick is ok.. but the other preppy looking white dudes have got to go. They look like the type of dudes that football players would beat up before pep rallies.
Six Thoughts on ‘Get Up!,’ ESPN’s New Morning Show
Can a morning sports talk show really work in 2018?
By Bryan Curtis Apr 2, 2018, 12:34pm EDT
I don’t believe in day-one reviews. Doesn’t matter if it’s a new ESPN show or a sports site that moves America’s baseball and hockey writers into a higher tax bracket. Give it a week. Better yet, give it a few months.
So you won’t read a poleaxing of ESPN’s new morning show, Get Up!, here. But I’d like to reserve the headline “Colder Pizza” for possible future use. And after watching the first edition of Get Up!, I have six thoughts about what ESPN is trying to do with the show and the sports-TV universe in which the network is trying to do it.
1. A show like Get Up! is as much about structure as it is about chemistry. Sitting in front of a window that during the first hour was fogged in by a blizzard, Mike Greenberg, Michelle Beadle, and Jalen Rose (the fourth host Monday was former NFL defensive tackle Booger McFarland) led off each hour with a news recap. Anyone who watches ESPN will recognize the house style of aggregation. You get big news (Arike Ogunbowale’s game-winner). You get an amazing play (Danuel House Jr.’s self-pass and dunk). You get a beef (Kyle Kuzma trash-talking Justin Jackson). And you get one of social media’s objects of obsession (the Rams’ Aaron Donald blocking knife attacks).
There were burning questions on the chyron. But the Get Up! cast reminded me of the strata of ESPN hosts who like to say: “We don’t really do debate. We do discussion.”
“Is Jay Wright, as we speak, the best coach in college basketball?” Greeny asked guest Jay Bilas at one point. They briefly hashed it over. After showing Ogunbowale’s second buzzer-beater in two games, the panel considered whether hers was best Final Four performance of all time. Like the guy at the bar who gums up the discussion by possibly being right, Greeny suggested Bill Walton might have been better in 1973.
insisted he was never supposed to be its star) but in a way he’s the hardest guy to cast. He’s not going to look into the camera and grin his way into your heart. He’s not going to light the set on fire with an opinion. At first glance, the show looks like a team with two point guards, though one that’s not likely to beef.
3. Cable news would seem to offer a model for Get Up!Wolff, the ESPN vice president who’s shepherding the show,is a veteran of The Rachel Maddow Show. Withratings up from CNN to Fox, there’s a certain allure in putting Greeny in a half-zip, sticking a Starbucks cup on the desk, and creating a sports-themed version of Morning Joe.
There’s a reason that analogy doesn’t quite work. Cable news is being floated and even programmed by Donald Trump. Trump provides the ever-changing “news,” the outrage, and the early-morning DACA tweets that producers can put on the screen.
Sports doesn’t have a single mega-subject that brings everybody together. Or, at least, it doesn’t have one every day. Take the newsy segment that leads off each hour of Get Up! On Monday, it featured Ogunbowale’s buzzer-beater and LeBron James’s and Russell Westbrook’s triple-doubles from the night before. Then we were on Shohei Otani’s first start for the Angels.
Sports “opinionists” have solved the problem of the lack of a common story line by pounding LeBron, the Dallas Cowboys, and other “A” stories again and again. Greeny seems to have the opposite idea. “I want the show to be all things to all sports fans,” he told the Chicago Tribune’s Teddy Greenstein.
Wolff’s challenge is this: To make a case for a generalist talk show in a media universe where everyone is allowed to wallow in their own obsession. Even before cord-cutting, this would be an enormous challenge. As someone involved with the show’s genesis told me of Wolff, “I think this project will determine the remainder of his career.”
4. Know what I’m not worried about? Get Up!’s wokeness. Last week, there was a tempest caused by a stray Hollywood Reporter headline. Yet if you read the piece, Rose was saying that if Trump tweeted something about sports, the show would discuss it.
If Trump tweets about sports, of course Greenberg, et al., should talk about it. Trump would be solving the problem outlined above! If the network doesn’t want to turn Greenberg into Chris Hayes, it can bring on Jemele Hill. We’ve gotten to the point where TV execs think any grunt of political ideology is going to bring Clay Travis through the door like Chris Hansen. (“Greeny, why don’t you have a seat?”) Stop being so damn scared of being interesting.
5. Don’t underestimate how much studio shows rely on football talk. Scott Van Pelt’s midnight SportsCenter launched on September 7, 2015. He had football on his show immediately. The Six launched the Monday after the Super Bowl. Michael Smith and Jemele Hill had to wait seven months for football. That’s not the reason one succeeded and the other failed, but I’d sure rather start a new talk show at the beginning of football season.
6. No matter what your friendly media critic tells you, a show like Get Up! has very two different definitions of success: financial and editorial. Let’s start with the former. We know exactly what the replacement-level talk show for Get Up! is: generic SportsCenter. Pick some hosts, run the highlights, throw it to Windhorst. Get Up!’s success will be measured not only by how much it out-rates such a show but whether that bump is big enough to justify a reported $15 million in host salaries, millions more for a new studio in New York’s South Street Seaport, etc. (The show will repeat three hours later on ESPN2.)
But at this stage, that stuff mostly matters to TV executives. For the show to be an editorial success, it has to achieve something else. At least once or twice, you’ll have to wake up, groggily look at some news story on Twitter, and think, I wonder what Greeny and Beadle and Jalen are saying about this.
Even that’s asking a lot in this day and age. Maybe success is more like: Get Up! is something I’ll admit into my balanced media breakfast along with Twitter and Morning Edition and whatever podcast I fell asleep listening to last night. If that feels like a tall order, you get a sense of just how tough it’s going to be for this to work.
https://www.theringer.com/sports/2018/4/2/17188858/get-up-espn-morning-show-review-mike-greenberg
Can a morning sports talk show really work in 2018?
By Bryan Curtis Apr 2, 2018, 12:34pm EDT
I don’t believe in day-one reviews. Doesn’t matter if it’s a new ESPN show or a sports site that moves America’s baseball and hockey writers into a higher tax bracket. Give it a week. Better yet, give it a few months.
So you won’t read a poleaxing of ESPN’s new morning show, Get Up!, here. But I’d like to reserve the headline “Colder Pizza” for possible future use. And after watching the first edition of Get Up!, I have six thoughts about what ESPN is trying to do with the show and the sports-TV universe in which the network is trying to do it.
1. A show like Get Up! is as much about structure as it is about chemistry. Sitting in front of a window that during the first hour was fogged in by a blizzard, Mike Greenberg, Michelle Beadle, and Jalen Rose (the fourth host Monday was former NFL defensive tackle Booger McFarland) led off each hour with a news recap. Anyone who watches ESPN will recognize the house style of aggregation. You get big news (Arike Ogunbowale’s game-winner). You get an amazing play (Danuel House Jr.’s self-pass and dunk). You get a beef (Kyle Kuzma trash-talking Justin Jackson). And you get one of social media’s objects of obsession (the Rams’ Aaron Donald blocking knife attacks).
There were burning questions on the chyron. But the Get Up! cast reminded me of the strata of ESPN hosts who like to say: “We don’t really do debate. We do discussion.”
“Is Jay Wright, as we speak, the best coach in college basketball?” Greeny asked guest Jay Bilas at one point. They briefly hashed it over. After showing Ogunbowale’s second buzzer-beater in two games, the panel considered whether hers was best Final Four performance of all time. Like the guy at the bar who gums up the discussion by possibly being right, Greeny suggested Bill Walton might have been better in 1973.
insisted he was never supposed to be its star) but in a way he’s the hardest guy to cast. He’s not going to look into the camera and grin his way into your heart. He’s not going to light the set on fire with an opinion. At first glance, the show looks like a team with two point guards, though one that’s not likely to beef.
3. Cable news would seem to offer a model for Get Up!Wolff, the ESPN vice president who’s shepherding the show,is a veteran of The Rachel Maddow Show. Withratings up from CNN to Fox, there’s a certain allure in putting Greeny in a half-zip, sticking a Starbucks cup on the desk, and creating a sports-themed version of Morning Joe.
There’s a reason that analogy doesn’t quite work. Cable news is being floated and even programmed by Donald Trump. Trump provides the ever-changing “news,” the outrage, and the early-morning DACA tweets that producers can put on the screen.
Sports doesn’t have a single mega-subject that brings everybody together. Or, at least, it doesn’t have one every day. Take the newsy segment that leads off each hour of Get Up! On Monday, it featured Ogunbowale’s buzzer-beater and LeBron James’s and Russell Westbrook’s triple-doubles from the night before. Then we were on Shohei Otani’s first start for the Angels.
Sports “opinionists” have solved the problem of the lack of a common story line by pounding LeBron, the Dallas Cowboys, and other “A” stories again and again. Greeny seems to have the opposite idea. “I want the show to be all things to all sports fans,” he told the Chicago Tribune’s Teddy Greenstein.
Wolff’s challenge is this: To make a case for a generalist talk show in a media universe where everyone is allowed to wallow in their own obsession. Even before cord-cutting, this would be an enormous challenge. As someone involved with the show’s genesis told me of Wolff, “I think this project will determine the remainder of his career.”
4. Know what I’m not worried about? Get Up!’s wokeness. Last week, there was a tempest caused by a stray Hollywood Reporter headline. Yet if you read the piece, Rose was saying that if Trump tweeted something about sports, the show would discuss it.
If Trump tweets about sports, of course Greenberg, et al., should talk about it. Trump would be solving the problem outlined above! If the network doesn’t want to turn Greenberg into Chris Hayes, it can bring on Jemele Hill. We’ve gotten to the point where TV execs think any grunt of political ideology is going to bring Clay Travis through the door like Chris Hansen. (“Greeny, why don’t you have a seat?”) Stop being so damn scared of being interesting.
5. Don’t underestimate how much studio shows rely on football talk. Scott Van Pelt’s midnight SportsCenter launched on September 7, 2015. He had football on his show immediately. The Six launched the Monday after the Super Bowl. Michael Smith and Jemele Hill had to wait seven months for football. That’s not the reason one succeeded and the other failed, but I’d sure rather start a new talk show at the beginning of football season.
6. No matter what your friendly media critic tells you, a show like Get Up! has very two different definitions of success: financial and editorial. Let’s start with the former. We know exactly what the replacement-level talk show for Get Up! is: generic SportsCenter. Pick some hosts, run the highlights, throw it to Windhorst. Get Up!’s success will be measured not only by how much it out-rates such a show but whether that bump is big enough to justify a reported $15 million in host salaries, millions more for a new studio in New York’s South Street Seaport, etc. (The show will repeat three hours later on ESPN2.)
But at this stage, that stuff mostly matters to TV executives. For the show to be an editorial success, it has to achieve something else. At least once or twice, you’ll have to wake up, groggily look at some news story on Twitter, and think, I wonder what Greeny and Beadle and Jalen are saying about this.
Even that’s asking a lot in this day and age. Maybe success is more like: Get Up! is something I’ll admit into my balanced media breakfast along with Twitter and Morning Edition and whatever podcast I fell asleep listening to last night. If that feels like a tall order, you get a sense of just how tough it’s going to be for this to work.
https://www.theringer.com/sports/2018/4/2/17188858/get-up-espn-morning-show-review-mike-greenberg
SO Greeny isn’t even close to being the star of his own show......
I can see 8 months down the line him being moved to the afternoon sportscenter with what Espn describes as a “promotion”...
This is just not his type of thing. Greenie needs to be at a desk interviewing people... like I could see him taking Bob lee’s Spot if he ever retired.
I can see 8 months down the line him being moved to the afternoon sportscenter with what Espn describes as a “promotion”...
This is just not his type of thing. Greenie needs to be at a desk interviewing people... like I could see him taking Bob lee’s Spot if he ever retired.
If Booger gonna do most of the talking why beadle greenberg and jalen there for?
Are you just watching the episode.
Its a hard watch bro.. I havent been able to give it much more than the 20 minutes or so I told you about earlier this week. If they re run it tonite or the weekend i will try to give it another try.
That it would work better as an afternoon show...
As a morning show.. it’s not much different from Greeny and golic
Hahahahaha we ended up saying the same thing...