Star Wars: The Mandalorian (official Series Discussion Thread) Update (Season 3 drops Feb 2023)

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Not even Magneto. Storm, Prof X, Jean Grey without the Phoenix and destroy all Jedi. It ain’t even close.
 

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Not even Magneto. Storm, Prof X, Jean Grey without the Phoenix and destroy all Jedi. It ain’t even close.
Jedi are dumb as hell, Darth Varder knew about the flaw with the Death Star didn't think about pulling over and blocking off that exhaust port. And on the second attack on the DS the whole Millilumen Falcon drove through it like it was at a parking garage and blew it up. Both Varder and Kenobi owned R2D2 and neither remembered ever owning a droid. Anaken didn't know his Padmé Amidala was pregnant his twins. Had his daughter on the bridge of the DS looking dead at him and didn't know who she was. The Force is a hit or miss superpower.
 

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Totally disagree. Those saber fights are awful back then.
Did you really expect a 70 something year old Alec Guinness to move like that? add to the facr that obi wan was distracting Vader more than trying to fight . the ot trilogy saber combat was based on fencing and samurai sword fighting with deliberate and economic strikes. Also the light saber props weighed 30 pounds. The prequels usex me on and wushu a d their props weighed much less. You have to consider the fact that obi was an elderly man who refined his style for efficiency with minimal edfort as compared to his younger self. Thats why in that rebels episode obi wan ended that fight with Darth maul with minimal strikes instead of flipping and twirling all over the place. Whoever made that remake just doesn't get . that scene doesnt flow right and the emotional context of that fight feels off. Like I said it's overkill.
 

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Did you really expect a 70 something year old Alec Guinness to move like that? add to the facr that obi wan was distracting Vader more than trying to fight . the ot trilogy saber combat was based on fencing and samurai sword fighting with deliberate and economic strikes. Also the light saber props weighed 30 pounds. The prequels usex me on and wushu a d their props weighed much less. You have to consider the fact that obi was an elderly man who refined his style for efficiency with minimal edfort as compared to his younger self. Thats why in that rebels episode obi wan ended that fight with Darth maul with minimal strikes instead of flipping and twirling all over the place. Whoever made that remake just doesn't get . that scene doesnt flow right and the emotional context of that fight feels off. Like I said it's overkill.

we can agree to disagree. while i understand your context a jedi is a jedi. and the reason those saber fights look the way they do is due to the technology of the time. not what you were attempting to explain.
 

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Jedi are dumb as hell, Darth Varder knew about the flaw with the Death Star didn't think about pulling over and blocking off that exhaust port. And on the second attack on the DS the whole Millilumen Falcon drove through it like it was at a parking garage and blew it up. Both Varder and Kenobi owned R2D2 and neither remembered ever owning a droid. Anaken didn't know his Padmé Amidala was pregnant his twins. Had his daughter on the bridge of the DS looking dead at him and didn't know who she was. The Force is a hit or miss superpower.
Vader didn't know about the flaw.

The 2nd death star wasn't complete and the shield generator that was meant to protect it from endor was blown up.

R2 pretending not to recognize obi wan is a legit question

a man not knowing the woman is pregnant or with his kid is a legit thing

Vader tortured Leia TWICE and was in her presence multiple times and didn't pick up anything is a huge hole.

As the OT portrayed it....Leia never had an opinion or interest in the force and her connection on happened after luke called out to her...COULD be an explanation as to why Vader never felt her force presence...in fact he only picked up on it THRU luke.
 

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we can agree to disagree. while i understand your context a jedi is a jedi. and the reason those saber fights look the way they do is due to the technology of the time. not what you were attempting to explain.
I can point point out another factor . these guys didnt consider that Vader is a cyborg and is 65 percent machine his range of movement is limited. Obi wan. Is. Defensive master in tthe original fight Vader was trying his hardest to get past obi wans defenses but couldn't until obi wan sacrificed himself. The fight was great in jts simplicity. The remake was chaotic nonsense
 

geechiedan

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Totally disagree. Those saber fights are awful back then.
Did you really expect a 70 something year old Alec Guinness to move like that? add to the facr that obi wan was distracting Vader more than trying to fight . the ot trilogy saber combat was based on fencing and samurai sword fighting with deliberate and economic strikes. Also the light saber props weighed 30 pounds. The prequels usex me on and wushu a d their props weighed much less. You have to consider the fact that obi was an elderly man who refined his style for efficiency with minimal edfort as compared to his younger self. Thats why in that rebels episode obi wan ended that fight with Darth maul with minimal strikes instead of flipping and twirling all over the place. Whoever made that remake just doesn't get . that scene doesnt flow right and the emotional context of that fight feels off. Like I said it's overkill.
Mark Hamil said in an interview that he and the fight choreographer had come up with more dynamic moves but that Lucas wanted the lightaber fights to look like broad sword fighting. Cuz they're, you know....knights.
 

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Mark Hamil said in an interview that he and the fight choreographer had come up with more dynamic moves but that Lucas wanted the lightaber fights to look like broad sword fighting. Cuz they're, you know....knights.

The movie came out in the 80's the sword fight choreography was going to be garbage regardless.
 

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Mark Hamil said in an interview that he and the fight choreographer had come up with more dynamic moves but that Lucas wanted the lightaber fights to look like broad sword fighting. Cuz they're, you know....knights.
Exactly the Jedi are so based on samurai not ninjas. There not supposed to be space Naruto or hokage but i get it. When the prsquels were being made they had to make the combat flashy to appeal to a newer audience
 

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Best saber fights are still in The Old Republic game movie cuts

If the ever made a trilogy in the old Republic era i wohldnt watch because I'm just about work out with fhe wbole Jedi vs Sith thing. Instead aid rather see a trilogy based on the Jedi/mandolorian wars
 

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Vader didn't know about the flaw.

The 2nd death star wasn't complete and the shield generator that was meant to protect it from endor was blown up.

R2 pretending not to recognize obi wan is a legit question

a man not knowing the woman is pregnant or with his kid is a legit thing

Vader tortured Leia TWICE and was in her presence multiple times and didn't pick up anything is a huge hole.

As the OT portrayed it....Leia never had an opinion or interest in the force and her connection on happened after luke called out to her...COULD be an explanation as to why Vader never felt her force presence...in fact he only picked up on it THRU luke.
Lu as wrote the trilogy as he went along . ljke and leia wasnt even brother and sister during the empkre strikes back and in a new hope Luke and vader wasn't sven father a d son. In esb nobody. In the cast new that Luke and vader was father and son except Lucas and james earl Jones and. David prowse. All that prequel stuff is recommend anyway. Obi wan said " he doesn't seem to remember owning a droid which js true becauss Jedi don't kwn material things and r2d2 belonged to Padme. The only reason r2 was around anakin so much was because if his secret marriage.
 

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Omg. This nigga posted a video game. This is when Star Wars fans have to admit the main source material is NOT that great.
Because you never saw it in the movies you have to get your vibes from a video game? Fucking wow. Wow!

Best saber fights are still in The Old Republic game movie cuts
 

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Vader didn't know about the flaw.

The 2nd death star wasn't complete and the shield generator that was meant to protect it from endor was blown up.

R2 pretending not to recognize obi wan is a legit question

a man not knowing the woman is pregnant or with his kid is a legit thing

Vader tortured Leia TWICE and was in her presence multiple times and didn't pick up anything is a huge hole.

As the OT portrayed it....Leia never had an opinion or interest in the force and her connection on happened after luke called out to her...COULD be an explanation as to why Vader never felt her force presence...in fact he only picked up on it THRU luke.

He went after Leia for the stolen Death Star plans the very plans that exposed the flaw in the Death Star Anaken is a technological genius he understood the design flaw.
Which proves my point, Anaken Built C-3PO was designed as a protocol droid intended to assist in etiquette, customs, and translation, boasting that he is "fluent in over six million forms of communication". And Jedi's can build their own light sabers
They made the hole in the Death Star large enough for a whole ship can fit and blow it up, if you have a force shield from Endor, they should have had the foresight to leave the exhaust port small.
If the force is all knowing all seeing not picking up that his wife was pregnant and Leia withstood intense interrogation should have been a sign she was not normal.
The Force is a mysterious energy field created by life that binds the galaxy together. Harnessing the power of the Force gives the Jedi, the Sith, and others sensitive to this spiritual energy extraordinary abilities, such as levitating objects, tricking minds, and seeing things before they happen.
 

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He went after Leia for the stolen Death Star plans the very plans that exposed the flaw in the Death Star Anaken is a technological genius he understood the design flaw.
Which proves my point, Anaken Built C-3PO was designed as a protocol droid intended to assist in etiquette, customs, and translation, boasting that he is "fluent in over six million forms of communication". And Jedi's can build their own light sabers
They made the hole in the Death Star large enough for a whole ship can fit and blow it up, if you have a force shield from Endor, they should have had the foresight to leave the exhaust port small.
If the force is all knowing all seeing not picking up that his wife was pregnant and Leia withstood intense interrogation should have been a sign she was not normal.
The Force is a mysterious energy field created by life that binds the galaxy together. Harnessing the power of the Force gives the Jedi, the Sith, and others sensitive to this spiritual energy extraordinary abilities, such as levitating objects, tricking minds, and seeing things before they happen.
The force doesn't make you omniscient or super clairvoyant.
 

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Jedi are dumb as hell, Darth Varder knew about the flaw with the Death Star didn't think about pulling over and blocking off that exhaust port. And on the second attack on the DS the whole Millilumen Falcon drove through it like it was at a parking garage and blew it up. Both Varder and Kenobi owned R2D2 and neither remembered ever owning a droid. Anaken didn't know his Padmé Amidala was pregnant his twins. Had his daughter on the bridge of the DS looking dead at him and didn't know who she was. The Force is a hit or miss superpower.
Vader was looking for the stolen plans. He did not know about the flaw of the original Death Star. No one did, not until it was identified late in A New Hope. An Imprerial Officer even mentions it to Moff Tarkin, about preparing a shuttle to escape, but he was too arrogant and wanted to stay and be victorious.



Second Death Star attack, well, it was much bigger than the first and incomplete...

Kenobi didn't own R2D2. R2 was owned by Padme and by proxy Anakin. Kenobi was also known to play loose with the facts. This was just Lucas not knowing what he would write in the prequel trilogy. Nothing more.

Anakin KNEW Padme was pregnant. The whole point of him falling to the dark side was he wanted to save her from death at childbirth. He just didnt know she was having twins.

Which is why he didn't sense Leia as his daughter. For all he knew at that time, his child died at birth along with Padme and Leia's force sensitivity wasn't even on...

Vader saw Leia as a rebel spy. He had no reason to see a daughter he never knew existed, not until Luke's thoughts of her betrayed him in Return of the Jedi.
 

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Star Wars: The Future Awaits?

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Good segment on The Mandalorian from NPR's 1A podcast (full episode in the below):

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Her intro is hilarious :lol:
 
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darth frosty

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Just sharing...

While I FULLY consider the jar jar abrams sequels to be non-existent! and the star wars saga ONLY proceeds following the events of Mando season 2...I like this person's theory and reasoning.


Was Grogu (The Child) still training at Luke's new Jedi Temple when Kylo Ren destroyed it?
Fan theory here:

Ok so Luke Skywalker came and rescued Grogu from the dark troopers, then took him, presumably to his training camp.

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During this time, Kylo Ren is most likely still very young, maybe only 4–5 years old, and just developing his powers, the beginning stages.

So for the next few years Luke trains Grogu one on one. When he becomes of age, Kylo Ren joins the school, and as we know it, Kylo Ren is very competitive and determined to be number one. He will most likely not like Grogu and see him as a challenger or a threat to him being the greatest Jedi in the galaxy. This could explain how Kylo Ren began to develop his anger, envy, and fear.

He becomes angry that he is not the strongest with the force within the school, he has envy because he is not his uncles favorite student, and he lets fear in because he fears he will not live up to his name.

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On the same token Grogu is still very young (in terms of his species years.) and unable to fully wield a lightsaber, although his skills with the force have grown immensely.

The theory is this, Grogu senses the conflict within Kylo Ren, he recognizes it as the same conflict Anakin (Vader) had when he entered the temple and slaughtered the younglings (since he was there and witnessed it). Grogu feels what is about to come and reaches out through the force to the one person he know he can fully trust, the Mandalorian. And don’t ask me how, but somehow, someway, Mando hears this call and comes to his aid.

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Or something of that sort, but I refuse to believe Grogu was killed by a wanna be Vader!
 

EPDC

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I honestly don't think Disney will go back to the sequel era outside of one or two films. The Rogue Squadron film that was announced was teased with using a Resistance era X-Wing. That's probably the only time they'll go back to the sequel era.

Disney saw the failure of the sequel era and will instead focus their stories in the immediate post Return of the Jedi years as well as in the the post Revenge of the Sith years.

The only other era they will look towards is the high republic era, set hundreds of years before The Phantom Menace.

Doing so gives fans what we want, a fully realized Jedi Luke Skywalker and a fully realized Sith Lord Darth Vader, as well as possible Darth Plagueis the Wise

Grogu, as well loved the character was, will probably not be seen again outside of a cameo, unless Disney gives us a Luke Skywalker Jedi Academy series.

I don't think they'll introduce Grogu into the same world as Ben Solo.

The sequel Trilogy is too polarizing. Don't think they want the sequel Trilogy stench anywhere near Grogu.

In all the announcements from the investors meetings a few weeks ago there, was nary a mention of any projects at or around the sequel era.
 
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I honestly don't think Disney will go back to the sequel era outside of one or two films. The Rogue Squadron film that was announced was teased with using a Resistance era X-Wing. That's probably the only time they'll go back to the sequel era.

Disney saw the failure of the sequel era and will instead focus their stories in the immediate post Return of the Jedi years as well as in the the post Revenge of the Sith years.

The only other era they will look towards is the high republic era, set hundreds of years before The Phantom Menace.

Doing so gives fans what we want, a fully realized Jedi Luke Skywalker and a fully realized Sith Lord Darth Vader, as well as possible Darth Plagueis the Wise

Grogu, as well loved the character was, will probably not be seen again outside of a cameo, unless Disney gives us a Luke Skywalker Jedi Academy series.

I don't think they'll introduce Grogu into the same world as Ben Solo.

The sequel Trilogy is too polarizing. Don't think they want the sequel Trilogy stench anywhere near Grogu.

In all the announcements from the investors meetings a few weeks ago there, was nary a mention of any projects at or around the sequel era.
There's not going to be any Sith in the high republic era. The high repu luc will be a out a group of Jedi patrolling the outer rim territories and a countering new foes like space vikings. They won't be called space Vikings but it's a description to the type of warriirs they are. Yoda could make possible cameo appearances si ce this era only takes place 200-400 years before the phantom menace. Star wars needs to take a break from the Jedi vs Sith conflict
 

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There's not going to be any Sith in the high republic era. The high repu luc will be a out a group of Jedi patrolling the outer rim territories and a countering new foes like space vikings. They won't be called space Vikings but it's a description to the type of warriirs they are. Yoda could make possible cameo appearances si ce this era only takes place 200-400 years before the phantom menace. Star wars needs to take a break from the Jedi vs Sith conflict
Remember, Sith were thought to be extinct for a millenia when Phantom Menace occured.

However we all know they were biding their time, waiting in the shadows.

A high Republic show may not have Sith vs Jedi action but I highly doubt it will not have any Sith in it. They will more than likely be in the shadows, pulling the strings.

The Sith and Jedi basically Ying/Yang of one another. Can't have one without the other.
 
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The sequel Trilogy is too polarizing. Don't think they want the sequel Trilogy stench anywhere near Grogu.

In all the announcements from the investors meetings a few weeks ago there, was nary a mention of any projects at or around the sequel era.
Only other thing that is set in the sequel era is that Galaxy's Edge BS at Disneyland/World...

Now if they go further on ahead into the future and somehow bring Legacy back into canon(and make up some brand new character not related to the Sjywalkers) itd be a different story
 

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Remember, Sith were thought to be extinct for a millenia when Phantom Menace occured.

However we all know they biding their time, waiting in the shadows.

A high Republic show may not have Sith vs Jedi action but I highly doubt it will not have any Sith in it. They will more than likely be in the shadows, pulling the strings.

The Sith and Jedi basically Ying/Yang of one another. Can't have one without the other.
Don't forget there were also dark jedi who weren't Sith (didn't know of or weren't trained in the with magic ways) so they can potentially be antagonists
 

EPDC

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Don't forget there were also dark jedi who weren't Sith (didn't know of or weren't trained in the with magic ways) so they can potentially be antagonists
Yep!

When I refer to the "Sith" I'm more or less including Sith Lords and any Dark Jedi.

Basically anyone trained in the Jedi arts who is not a light side user.

Like Kylo Ren, he wasn't really a Sith, he was a Dark Jedi.
 
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