So is your argument that the Virgin Islands isnt West Indian? Simply American?
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So is your argument that the Virgin Islands isnt West Indian? Simply American?
You can't immigrate to a country you were born in. It's the same ignorance White Republican conservatives use when speaking about Puerto Ricans. They are American. These cats are trying to fabricate a "us against them" mindset to get folks to side with them.
We are American and West Indian. But still American. It's not a distinct race no matter how hard you try.
You say youre just American. The Virgin Islands isnt really the Caribbean and has nothing to do with West Indian culture. The USVI has more in common with Idaho than it does Jamaica or Trinidad. People from the USVI claiming they islanders or going to Carnival is some fraud shit.
Who exactly is WE? Do you know any 2nd generation West Indians born and raised in New York?
You can't be serious...
You're so full of shit I really think something's off with you bruh....
I know plenty. Run with several actually. All this coonsplaining to put up this front of purity. Mutha fuckas just incapable of self reflection.
Yes yall have coons too. And Stephen A is one of em. Now hold this L! 
I’m more so just pointing out that using these labels to define a lineage based on some arbitrary timeline is doing nothing but causing confusion. We are literally using the white man’s classification of imaginary boundaries to determine who is and who isn’t ADOS.
If blacks are indeed natives of this land, then there existed no boundaries that could define what is or what isn’t American UNTIL colonization. That includes land that is known as Canada and Mexico today. Same for Caribbean islands. That’s why I keep saying these lines are arbitrary.
That was my concern when I first heard of the movement. Anything a person labels will come with great challenges.
Would you be willing to share your concerns with an ADOS group in your area? We want non ADOS to come thru and let us know their issues with our lineage. Are you down?
Tone was the dumb mf who said that Stephen wasn't ADOS. So go tell Tone and Yvette to change the name of their cult .
I never said that. People in Louisiana speak French and practice all, French, African and American traditions. They aren't American either right?
Bruh...you're transparent as fuck. 99.9% of your posts are about "immigrants" rarely are they about "reparations".
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Louisiana is a STATE in the antebellum South. Its not an island in the Caribbean. It is also the literal birthplace of Jim Crow in America.
99.9% of my post arent about immigrants. You guys just dont like acknowledging your folks that be cooning. All this deflecting for Stephen A. I know man, he's embarrassing. I wouldn't wanna claim him either.
Um yes, they are sir.
Too late for them to change it because it is being monetized.
I was one of the first of BGOL to say the distinction is needed but the name was wrong and means nothing. Their group is suspect for the simple fact it is led by someone with sexual identity disorder and they don’t even include Dr. Claud Anderson who is the authority of reparations.
I was one of the first of BGOL to say the distinction is needed but the name was wrong and means nothing. Their group is suspect for the simple fact it is led by someone with sexual identity disorder and they don’t even include Dr. Claud Anderson who is the authority of reparations.
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Dr. Darity is cool but he is an employee of Duke University.
Byron Allen is being exposed everyday what his lawsuit is really about.
The disappointment is the lack of research our community does and rely on mainstream media which DOES NOT HAVE TO REPORT FACTUAL INFORMATION. @roots69 has posted the law several times. These “news” outlets are all spreading propaganda to appease their benefactors and the sheep fall for it every time. It’s pathetic.
Byron Allen is being exposed everyday what his lawsuit is really about.
The disappointment is the lack of research our community does and rely on mainstream media which DOES NOT HAVE TO REPORT FACTUAL INFORMATION. @roots69 has posted the law several times. These “news” outlets are all spreading propaganda to appease their benefactors and the sheep fall for it every time. It’s pathetic.
Bruh (right?)
Bruh (right?)
No we aren’t. Even the white man said Americans were the aboriginal, copper colored races aka Indians settled in the lands known as North and South America before white European settlers came.
webstersdictionary1828.com
So, yes, so-called blacks have been here before 1492 and before the Trans-Atlantic slave trade, before the colonizers, and built up these lands.
Websters Dictionary 1828 - Webster's Dictionary 1828 - American
Websters Dictionary 1828 - Webster's Dictionary 1828 - American
So, yes, so-called blacks have been here before 1492 and before the Trans-Atlantic slave trade, before the colonizers, and built up these lands.
You keep saying "so-called blacks". What are you again? Second time I've asked.
4D, Im not arguing with you or anyone.. Africa isnt the only place black people are from.. YOu have pacific islands with people that have copper color skin and in india they people that have dark skin.. There black indian tribes in this country to this day and they have treaty with this colony they will never give their dna to these dna websites.. If they allowed white people to pay 5dollars to assume a group of peoople, what does that tell you.. How was nat turner able to blend in with indian tribe and not stand out.. Do sum research in the 1770-1886 us census.. There's too much information out here, since people dont wanna read the truth is hidden between the lies..
Another site that has been dismissed -
Right on bruh!! Ive put the law up on a lot of threads, I even put a video that explains the law and I do it on all these threads that post stuff that comess thru these news corporations. You know Not 1 person has ever asked about the law.. I was thinking about starting a thread on Operation Mockingbird where its public information that shows whats going on in the media and its been going on since the 60's or maybe earlier.. But, people still put their faith and really think they know the people reading the script to them..
Asking you
Man that shit is hilarious
I guess I'm asking you. I get both of you confused you both vomit nonsense.
I think you guys missed my point. I did not deny the existence of Africans in the land before settlement. I’m ok with the notion of Blacks existing in the country (world wide) before colonization of the European as well as the Atlantic slave trade post colonization.
My point was that until colonization by the Europeans, there were no lines drawn. There were no boundaries to determine where a person came from. If people from the Caribbean travelled to the mainland before colonization of the European, then we wouldn’t be calling them immigrants like we do today.
it’s modern day thinking that are drawing lines on who is or isn’t ADOS. That’s my problem. People are trying to separate Black folks based on political boundaries lines.
I don’t have a problem with Blacks being native of this land before colonization and I believe there is enough text to support the existence of the Atlantic Slave trade as well.
It’s modern day thinking that is trying to make a distinction on where a person come from, which is politically driven and nothing that can be applied evenly because history changes things.
I don’t make distinctions on where another Black person comes from. In my eyes, we are all victims of white supremacy just in a different way.
My point was that until colonization by the Europeans, there were no lines drawn. There were no boundaries to determine where a person came from. If people from the Caribbean travelled to the mainland before colonization of the European, then we wouldn’t be calling them immigrants like we do today.
it’s modern day thinking that are drawing lines on who is or isn’t ADOS. That’s my problem. People are trying to separate Black folks based on political boundaries lines.
I don’t have a problem with Blacks being native of this land before colonization and I believe there is enough text to support the existence of the Atlantic Slave trade as well.
It’s modern day thinking that is trying to make a distinction on where a person come from, which is politically driven and nothing that can be applied evenly because history changes things.
I don’t make distinctions on where another Black person comes from. In my eyes, we are all victims of white supremacy just in a different way.
No we aren’t. Even the white man said Americans were the aboriginal, copper colored races aka Indians settled in the lands known as North and South America before white European settlers came.
Websters Dictionary 1828 - Webster's Dictionary 1828 - American
Websters Dictionary 1828 - Webster's Dictionary 1828 - American
So, yes, so-called blacks have been here before 1492 and before the Trans-Atlantic slave trade, before the colonizers, and built up these lands.
Question Everything and Believe Nothing!!! Instead of Believe Everything and Question Nothing!!! Anyway, open your own eyes or dont!!!
War Propaganda: “Fake News” and the Pentagon’s Office of Strategic Influence (OSI)
IN BRIEF
- The Facts:
The influence of intelligence and government agencies when it comes to mainstream media is quite large. This article provides numerous examples from documents to whistleblowers that clearly prove this point. - Reflect On:
Our world has become quite Orwellian with regards to free and open information. There now seems to be a 'Ministry of Truth' that is hiding information from people, and telling them what to believe and how to think. Censorship is rampant.
The document states that the CIA task force “now has relationships with reporters from every major wire service, newspaper, news weekly, and television network in the nation,” and that “this has helped us turn some ‘intelligence failure’ stories into ‘intelligence success” stories,’ and has contributed to the accuracy of countless others.” Furthermore, it explains how the agency has “persuaded reporters to postpone, change, hold, or even scrap stories that could have adversely affected national security interests or jeopardized sources and methods.”
Although it is a document outlining their desire to become more open and transparent, the deception outlined by various whistleblowers (example) requires us to read between the lines and recognize that the relationships shared between intelligence agencies and our sources of information are not always warranted and pose inherent conflicts of interest.
Herein lies the problem: What is “national security,” and who determines that definition? JFK bravely told the world that the “dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweigh[] the dangers which are cited to justify it.” He also said that “there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment.”
“National security” is now an umbrella term used to justify concealing information, but who makes these decisions?
The real reason why people like Julian Assange are treated the way they are treated is because they threaten immoral corporate and elitist actions/interests of various governments and institutions, and because they simply share truth and information.
This is why we are also seeing the mass censorship of alternative media outlets, like Collective Evolution.
Not long ago, William Arkin, a longtime well known military and war reporter who is best known for his groundbreaking, three-part Washington Post series in 2010, went public outing NBC/MSNBC as completely fake government run agencies.
He blasted NBC News along with MSNBC news in an email for “becoming captive and subservient to the national security state, reflexively pro-war in the name of stopping President Donald Trump, and now the prime propaganda instrument of the War Machine’s promotion of militarism and imperialism.” This is something, based on my research, mainstream media has always been. It’s why they were created in the first place.
Arkin stated that, as a result of this, “the national security establishment not only hasn’t issued a beat but indeed has gained dangerous strength, and “is ever more autonomous and practically impervious to criticism.”
Another great quote comes to mind here,
MSNBC’s star national security reporter Ken Dilanian was widely mocked by media outlets for years for being an uncritical CIA stenographer before he became a beloved NBC/MSNBC reporter, and let’s not forget CNN’s Anderson Cooper’s connections to the CIA.
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Operation Mockingbird, a CIA program to infiltrate mainstream media and use it to influence the minds of the masses decades ago, seems to be in full effect today, at a larger scale than anyone can possibly imagine.
In early 2018, NBC hired former CIA chief John Brennan to serve as a “senior national security and intelligence analyst.”
Dr. Udo Ulfkotte was a top German journalist and editor and has been for more than two decades. He went on the record stating that he was forced to publish the works of intelligence agents under his own name, also mentioning that noncompliance would result in him losing his job. Not long ago, he made an appearance on RT news Stating that:
There are many examples, the information above is simply small fraction of information regarding a big problem.
This is why I thought it was important to share a piece written by by Dr.Michel Chossudovsky, titled “War Propaganda: “Fake News” and the Pentagon’s Office of Strategic Influence (OSI). Chossudovsky is an award-winning author, Professor of Economics (emeritus) at the University of Ottawa, Founder and Director of the Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG), Montreal. It was originally posted on hist website, GlobalResearch.ca.
War Propaganda: “Fake News” and the Pentagon’s Office of Strategic Influence (OSI)
The following text on Rumsfeld’s “Office of Strategic Influence” (OSI) was first published by Global Research in January 2003 two months before the onslaught of the war on Iraq. The analysis largely pertained to the role of the Pentagon in planting fake stories in the news chain with a view to providing a “human face” to US-led military interventions.
Already in 2002, the “Militarization of the Media” was on the drawing board of the Pentagon. Defense Secretary Rumsfeld created the OSI with a view to influencing public opinion in the months leading up to the war on Iraq in March 2003. “The purpose [of the OSI] was to deliberately lie to advance American interests,” (quoted in Air Force Magazine, January 2003). It consisted in feeding disinformation into the news chain as well as seeking the support of the corporate media. Acknowledged by the New York Times:
The Ongoing “Militarization of the Media”
Most people do not even know that an Office of Strategic Influence (tantamount to a “Ministry of Truth”) existed within the confines of the Pentagon. Why? Rumsfeld decided to abolish the OSI. In reality, it was never abolished. They just changed the name to something else (as confirmed by Rumsfeld in a November 2002 Press Conference):
Flash Forward: 2002- 2017
While the OSI process launched by the Pentagon in 2002 is still functional as intimated by Rumsfeld, it has become increasingly sophisticated. Moreover, the media environment has changed dramatically since 2002 with the rapid development of social media.
Today, the Militarization of the Media is accepted. It is part of a “New Normal”. The actions of both by the Pentagon and NATO are now largely directed against the Blogosphere integrated by social media and independent online news and analysis.
“Strategic Influence” seeks to undermine critique or opinion by the alternative online media directed against (illegal) acts of war. Since 2001, a firm relationship has developed between the mainstream media and the Military establishment. War crimes are tacitly ignored. US-NATO “acts of war” are routinely upheld by the corporate media as humanitarian endeavors, i.e. a so-called “Responsibility to Protect”(R2P).
“America is Under Attack”
On September 11, 2001, Afghanistan had allegedly attacked America, according to NATO’s North Atlantic Council. The legal argument was that the September 11 attacks constituted an undeclared “armed attack” “from abroad” by an unnamed foreign power.
In the months leading up to the announced 2003 invasion of Iraq, the propaganda campaign consisted in sustaining the illusion that “America was under attack”.
A similar logic prevails today: America’s is allegedly being threatened by “rogue states”: Russia, China, Iran and North Korea.
“Information Operations” are now envisaged by the Pentagon against alternative media which refuse to acknowledge that “America is under attack”. The online independent media are tagged as “adversaries”. Countering (critical) social media is part of a US-NATO’s agenda. NATO points to the “weaponization of disinformation”, suggesting that online media directed against US-NATO constitutes a “weapon”.
Both the US DoD and NATO consider that online “false information” (published by independent and alternative media) has “security implications”. The objective is ultimately to dismantle all civil society media and movements which are opposed to America’s global war agenda.
Yep, that predictable train is never late.
Super wack
Well, I guess he had to settle for this until he can raise the Puppet Funds.
Has this dude ever went this hard on a white supremacist or one of these Alt-Right fags?