TARIQ NASHEED vs ROLAND MARTIN

[alexw]

nigga please stop following me around, like a sad bitch about shit u know nothing about.
i usually ignore cuz u act like a messy slut.

i said nothing but facts you fucking faggit and you know it

and this is a thread...no one is following your punk ass around

tell me what really happened then....
but u cant because youre the worst kind of dude there is

and you have the nerve to be critical of others when youre the the worst kind of black man there is

 

[alexw]

Peace,



See, this is the problem with arbitrarily determining whose black enough and who isn't.

The overwhelming majority of black people in this country self-identify as Democrat. If a cat like Roland Martin, who has an established record of speaking up for black concerns, isn't black enough for you cats because he supports Hillary Clinton, then you've effectively written off most black people.

where did we define anyone as black enough. stop spinning the argument....you arent good at it

one is a lapdog the other isnt

its really that simple

 

[Ill Paragraph]

Peace,

cats don't know if they want a seat at the table or to burn the system down.

if its the latter, who is prepared to make the sacrifice?

People are angry, and I get that, but infighting isn't the solution. Brother Malcolm eventually realized that he needed to work with black leaders with whom he disagreed in order to get things done. This public sniping doesn't accomplish anything.

 

[Ill Paragraph]

Peace,

where did we define anyone as black enough. stop spinning the argument....you arent good at it

one is a lapdog the other isnt

its really that simple

Take it easy. I'm not your enemy.

My original argument is that it's not a good look for sensible brothers like Tariq and Roland to be fighting it out in the press. You said that "every brother ain't a brother" correct?

 

[GuessWho21212]

Tariq is taking massive Ls. He is starting to look like a clown

I kinda agree here. Normally I rock with Tariq 100%, but lately he's been backing some lost causes. First it was the chick from Randallstown, MD who we initially thought was killed by police after prolonged harassment over some traffic violations. Turns out, she was one of those sovereign citizen nuts who believe that no laws apply to them except God's. She tried to fight for that belief in her living room with a shotgun instead of a courtroom with a lawyer and effectively committed suicide by cop.

Now he's on Dr. Drew defending this actress who he has already clowned on his show several times. To paraphrase, she was a negro bed wench having gutter sex in public with her white boyfriend and tried to pull the race card when the cops came and got her Negro wake up call. He's actually in agreement with the two women on the panel, but for some reason he just being contrarian solely for the sake of argument. Not a good look.

 

[DaAssWatcher]

Has to stop saying race soldiers and white supremacy after every sentence.

It makes your coon ass uncomfortable sitting around Biff and Becky watching it?

 

[BrownTurd]

It makes your coon ass uncomfortable sitting around Biff and Becky watching it?

Never dating white chicks or fucked them. Yall niggas be praising white chicks on here. Shit is disgusting to see threads dedicated to white bitches on BGOL and be 50 pages deep...smh

 

[DaAssWatcher]

Peace,



See, this is the problem with arbitrarily determining whose black enough and who isn't.

The overwhelming majority of black people in this country self-identify as Democrat. If a cat like Roland Martin, who has an established record of speaking up for black concerns, isn't black enough for you cats because he supports Hillary Clinton, then you've effectively written off most black people.

Majority of Black people including Roland and anyother Black media heads don't care about destroying white supremacy, they just want to be comfortable in it while they get there check.

 

[DaAssWatcher]

Never dating white chicks or fucked them. Yall niggas be praising white chicks on here. Shit is disgusting to see threads dedicated to white bitches on BGOL and be 50 pages deep...smh

Show me 1 thread with my name it doing that?

 

[Ill Paragraph]

Peace,

Majority of Black people including Roland and anyother Black media heads don't care about destroying white supremacy, they just want to be comfortable in it while they get there check.

That may be true, but is the answer to attack them in the press? Better to save all of that up for whites (and true coons like Larry Elder) and deal with black folks behind closed doors. We don't make progress by attacking each other.

 

[jasonblacc]

i did notice that when a black man needed your help
the help that you agreed too
you ran the fuck away and became unreachable

your faggit ass shouldnt say shit

Dam

 

[Tha Great Muta]

Damn Roland. That buck dancing with Clinton is not a good look brother.

Man I ain't laughed this early in the morning in a minute. That's fucked up man .

 

[da_monumental_1]

you posted the wrong clip

tariq uses race soldier exactly as fuller teaches it.

its not name calling when the race soldiers prove to be so

btw its clear as fuck tariq is fullers greatest student

i bet they talk for hrs on a weekly basis

Did you even listen to the video you posted? Mr. Fuller states exactly what I stated above @ the 1:20 mark. I know exactly which show that clip came from one of Mr. Fuller's many appearances on the C.O.W.S. radio show.

I have Mr. Fuller's personal home phone number. I just talked to him the Sunday before last. Tariq is nowhere near being Mr. Fuller's "greatest student" as he does far too many things against code. That honorific would belong to Dr. Welsing, and to a lesser extent, Gus T. Renegade. He regularly violates half of Mr. Fuller's "10 Stops" (Stop Name-Calling, Cursing, Gossiping, Being Discourteous, Squabbling).

You're getting snippets of clips. I've spoken to Mr. Fuller for hours over the years. Between Josh Wickett, Danny Green (has recorded all of the Welsing Institute lectures) and myself, we probably have more material of Mr. Fuller that's never even been heard online in full (University of Maryland and NASA talks).

Heck, we don't have to argue. You can call into his show a 9AM today (1-877-932-9766) and ask him yourself. You're always supposed to put the suspect label before any name unless the person self identifies. The only exception to that rule stated by Mr. Fuller is a white person engaging in a sexual relationship with a non-white person which would automatically make him or her a white supremacist.

 

[Drayonis]

Peace,
See, this is the problem with arbitrarily determining whose black enough and who isn't.

That's one the issues I'm having with today's pro-black movement. No one's black enough. Everyone is suspect and at some point a coon or sellout. How about we respect any voice in the struggle as long as they are fighting?

 

[alexw]

Did you even listen to the video you posted? Mr. Fuller states exactly what I stated above @ the 1:20 mark. I know exactly which show that clip came from one of Mr. Fuller's many appearances on the C.O.W.S. radio show.

I have Mr. Fuller's personal home phone number. I just talked to him the Sunday before last. Tariq is nowhere near being Mr. Fuller's "greatest student" as he does far too many things against code. That honorific would belong to Dr. Welsing, and to a lesser extent, Gus T. Renegade. He regularly violates half of Mr. Fuller's "10 Stops" (Stop Name-Calling, Cursing, Gossiping, Being Discourteous, Squabbling).

You're getting snippets of clips. I've spoken to Mr. Fuller for hours over the years. Between Josh Wickett, Danny Green (has recorded all of the Welsing Institute lectures) and myself, we probably have more material of Mr. Fuller that's never even been heard online in full (University of Maryland and NASA talks).

Heck, we don't have to argue. You can call into his show a 9AM today and ask him yourself. You're always supposed to put the suspect label before any name unless the person self identifies. The only exception to that rule stated by Mr. Fuller is a white person engaging in a sexual relationship with a non-white person which would automatically make him or her a white supremacist.

race soldiers are proven the minute they enact harm on an african person

you dont have to self identify when there is a black person dead

what are you talking about?

tariq was 100% right and it follows fullers teaching

maybe comprehension isnt your strong suit...you dont need to listen to hrs of anything if its explained perfectly in 2 mins

 

[DaAssWatcher]

Peace,



That may be true, but is the answer to attack them in the press? Better to save all of that up for whites (and true coons like Larry Elder) and deal with black folks behind closed doors. We don't make progress by attacking each other.

We will never make progress with those who don't see white supremacy as a threat or know how it harms our community but would rather operate inside of it then attack it.

Problem with some of us we are quick to label people like Jesse Lee Peterson or any Black conservative a coon but fail to see Blacks on the left that are protecting the same white supremacist system just in a different way then there Black peers on the right.

 

[da_monumental_1]

race soldiers are proven the minute the enact harm on an african person

you dont have to self identify when theyre is a black person dead

what are you talking about?

tariq was 100% right and it follows fullers teaching

Go to the source. Ask Mr. Fuller himself. His show starts in about 10 minutes. You have a two hour window for your question to be addressed. Here's the number. 1-877-932-9766. If you're not comfortable with calling in, you can send your question in an email to info@talktainmentradio.com with "Mr. Bobby - Compensatory Concept Show" in the subject.

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

Man I was on the train debating some cac and I used that word. The look on his face was priceless.

Yeah Honky and cracker doesn't deliver that funk on they ass

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

Man I was on the train debating some cac and I used that word. The look on his face was priceless.

Yeah Honky and cracker doesn't deliver that funk on they ass

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

Man I was on the train debating some cac and I used that word. The look on his face was priceless.

Yeah Honky and cracker doesn't deliver that funk on they ass

 

[Ill Paragraph]

Peace,

We will never make progress with those who don't see white supremacy as a threat or know how it harms our community but would rather operate inside of it then attack it.

Problem with some of us we are quick to label people like Jesse Lee Peterson or any Black conservative a coon but fail to see Blacks on the left that are protecting the same white supremacist system just in a different way then there Black peers on the right.

Here's my question: in order to make progress, do we need the black majority or don't we?

Again, the overwhelming majority of black folks are Democrats. Would you say that they support white supremacy or not? If they do, should we abandon them or not?

My belief is that we need as many black people to be on the same page as we can in order to move forward. We don't get there by demonizing them because we think they support the status quo. We get there by working with them and getting on the same page.

Better to dialogue with black folks who are ideological centrists and reserve the animosity for our real enemies.

 

[alexw]

Go to the source. Ask Mr. Fuller himself. His show starts in about 10 minutes. You have a two hour window for your question to be addressed. Here's the number. 1-877-932-9766. If you're not comfortable with calling in, you can send your question in an email to info@talktainmentradio.com with "Mr. Bobby - Compensatory Concept Show" in the subject.

bruh im not in America right now

but you can ask the question and see what he says

but frame the question the way we're debating it now

is nasheed using the term correctly?

 

[yureeka9]

Man I ain't laughed this early in the morning in a minute. That's fucked up man .

Yeah, homie showed out on that one.

 

[DaAssWatcher]

Peace,



Here's my question: in order to make progress, do we need the black majority or don't we?

Again, the overwhelming majority of black folks are Democrats. Would you say that they support white supremacy or not? If they do, should we abandon them or not?

My belief is that we need as many black people to be on the same page as we can in order to move forward. We don't get there by demonizing them because we think they support the status quo. We get there by working with them and getting on the same page.

Better to dialogue with black folks who are ideological centrists and reserve the animosity for our real enemies.

That's wasting time.A lot of them know they are supporting white supremacy but choose to use covers like BLM to seem to be down for the cause.To them it's harder to sacrifice and attack white supremacy than it is to play it cool and operate in it hoping you can get promoted and earn a better living standard like those that came before you.

I'm not in the convincing game.All I want to do is link up with those who identify like I do and build with them.Fuck the half way ass niggaz.

 

[Ill Paragraph]

Peace,

That's wasting time.A lot of them know they are supporting white supremacy but choose to use covers like BLM to seem to be down for the cause.To them it's harder to sacrifice and attack white supremacy than it is to play it cool and operate in it hoping you can get promoted and earn a better living standard like those that came before you.

I'm not in the convincing game.All I want to do is link up with those who identify like I do and build with them.Fuck the half way ass niggaz.

You don't improve the lives of black people (assuming that's the goal) by abandoning most of them.

 

[Mr. Met]

Roland = establishment ...dancing for CACs

Tariq = anti-establishment ...calling out white supremacy

Tariq will eventually force Roland to feel like the hostage he is.

Seriously? Do you even watch Roland?

If Roland was so 'establishment', why didn't he stay at CNN with Don Lemon doing the sambo step?

Even going to a black network to make LESS money?

 

[4 Dimensional]

Beef between intellects on black matters.

I respect both dudes greatly. Such a shame that I read about this stuff too often.

 

[Ill Paragraph]

Peace,

Seriously? Do you even watch Roland?

If Roland was so 'establishment', why didn't he stay at CNN with Don Lemon doing the sambo step?

Even going to a black network to make LESS money?

Cats see one video and judge this cat's entire career. Roland is a part of the struggle.

Was he wrong for going after Tariq on social media? Of course he was. Do I disagree with black folks who support Hillary Clinton? Of course I do. But to dismiss the contributions of black folks who are fighting for black progress, simply because I disagree with the them, is misguided.

 

[Tha Great Muta]

Yeah, homie showed out on that one.

And deep down Roland is a real G. I've had respect ever since he called out that moist ass David Beckham Super bowl commercial. That's probably when they put him in his place because he got fired from CNN later on

 

[Tha Great Muta]

Seriously? Do you even watch Roland?

If Roland was so 'establishment', why didn't he stay at CNN with Don Lemon doing the sambo step?

Even going to a black network to make LESS money?

Roland let it be know ge ain't down with the homo agenda ever since that Super Bowl commercial.

 

[Drayonis]

Beef between intellects on black matters.

I respect both dudes greatly. Such a shame that I read about this stuff too often.

And it now seems like every week these brothers/sisters in the movement are going at each other proving further that black unity ultimately is a myth.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

she I aint mad at roland, he is probably tryin to smash..

Id do the same shit to to get that sweet eritrean coochie,

I heard that coocie be snug, fat and juicy....

Id be like Tariq dont you be comin over here makin no trouble now..

you go hide yo ass over there with yo hidden colors and let this poor woman breathe....

Id be like you ok baby... and take her under my cape...

 

[4 Dimensional]

And it now seems like every week these brothers/sisters in the movement are going at each other proving further that black unity ultimately is a myth.

It's very troublesome that myth may be true. These brothers are highly educated and both of them are showing their egos and I don't see either one setting it aside to come to a common understanding.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

And it now seems like every week these brothers/sisters in the movement are going at each other proving further that black unity ultimately is a myth.

its all for ratings...

most of us are united and have common ground on many things..

but we choose to bicker over the few things we have disagreements on...

like religion...

plus a lot of those folks are paid hired hand, who are at where they are at because of what they are willing do to and say...

televison doesnt even come close to representing how a majority of us feel..

and wont be untill we own some air waves...

and you see what is happening to bill cosby for attempting to do just that..

 

[Drayonis]

It's very troublesome that myth may be true. These brothers are highly educated and both of them are showing their egos and I don't see either one setting it aside to come to a common understanding.

Tariq vs. Umar
Umar vs. Strippers
Tariq vs. Godzilla...

Shit gets old. Egos man. Egos...

 

[Mentor B]

you posted the wrong clip

tariq uses race soldier exactly as fuller teaches it.

its not name calling when the race soldiers prove to be so

btw its clear as fuck tariq is fullers greatest student

i bet they talk for hrs on a weekly basis

That what I was about to say.

It's like...uhhhh, I think that is a fair assessment considering the killers of Alton Sterling and Eric Garner were captured on camera during their heinous acts.

 

[Better]

Low-key, it seems too many of the black leaders or public figures are smiling at each other through gritted teeth, while throwing elbows to gain better positioning.

I mean, shit ... Umar Johnson said out of his own mouth that they need to come take the throne if they want it. What throne, bro?

Public infighting is divisive because all of us have people with rock with more than others, and some of us can't prevent that from creating division within the movement.

 

[DaAssWatcher]

Peace,



You don't improve the lives of black people (assuming that's the goal) by abandoning most of them.

There is enough knowledge out there on white supremacy and the negative impact on our people.This is the information age.The excuse of "I didn't know" is not gonna fly.It's either you want to know or you want to cover your eyes and not see the world for what it is.There has been a total waste of time in our community of trying to wake people up instead of acting with the people who are already awake.
It's easier to get a following when people see a plan being acted out.

Tavis Smiley used to host The State of The Black Union year after year talking bout the same got damn issues with ZERO solutions or plans to act out.Things like that have become a favorite pastime of Black America.Meet up talk but never get shit started and do the same exact shit the following year.I'm not interested in these negroes.The greatest thing about social media is you get an insight in how one thinks and what they support.A majority of the Black people I've learned don't give a fuck about white supremacy. There only care is that white people treat them fair in a system that's against everything Black, championing causes for groups who don't give a fuck about them, and dick riding any Black person white media annoints without looking into there background.I am not interested in wasting time trying to convince these people of what they already know or should already know.