TARIQ NASHEED vs ROLAND MARTIN

[Better]

There is enough knowledge out there on white supremacy and the negative impact on our people.This is the information age.The excuse of "I didn't know" is not gonna fly.It's either you want to know or you want to cover your eyes and not see the world for what it is.There has been a total waste of time in our community of trying to wake people up instead of acting with the people who are already awake.
It's easier to get a following when people see a plan being acted out.

Tavis Smiley used to host The State of The Black Union year after year talking bout the same got damn issues with ZERO solutions or plans to act out.Things like that have become a favorite pastime of Black America.Meet up talk but never get shit started and do the same exact shit the following year.I'm not interested in these negroes.The greatest thing about social media is you get an insight in how one thinks and what they support.A majority of the Black people I've learned don't give a fuck about white supremacy. There only care is that white people treat them fair in a system that's against everything Black, championing causes for groups who don't give a fuck about them, and dick riding any Black person white media annoints without looking into there background.I am not interested in wasting time trying to convince these people of what they already know or should already know.

I agree with this, and have come to this conclusion as well.

Most people can't 'see', and you can't expect people to be committed to what their eyes can't see. Its the responsibility of their visionaries and courageous to make moves, and everyone else will fall in line.

It does seem that we feel if we don't attempt to awaken everybody FIRST, then get moving, we're failing the community.

A fact of life is not everyone will be saved, and not everyone WANTS to be.

 

[BDR]

yall notice tariq added his hidden colors hashtag when he was posting videos of the young woman who the police killed in baltimore?

is that considered profiting/ trying to frive traffic off of a black womans death?

who is tariq building with? or is he just tearing cats down to create a lane for himself?

Great question

 

[darth frosty]

I really truly believe this is the key to our future!

 

[Better]

Tariq is a hustler, and I don't trust his motives, but as long as he is enlightening people, then its whatever. Its better he does the things he's doing than not doing them.

 

[CptMARVEL]

Tariq vs. Umar
Umar vs. Strippers
Tariq vs. Godzilla...

Shit gets old. Egos man. Egos...

110% cosign brother. (As usual...)

Cornell vs Obama.
Smiley vs Obama.
Watkins vs Obama.
Dyson vs Cornell.
Sharpton vs Cornell.
Harris Perry vs Cornell.
Boyce vs Umar.
Griff vs Zaza Ali.
Umar vs Stripper.
Tariq vs Umar.
Tariq vs Zaza Ali.
Umar vs Polight.

Bottom line: High profile Blacks (politicians, intellectuals & online personalities) just can't get it together.
It's NOT just White supremacy holding us back. It's ego, greed, arrogance & intellectual dishonesty from our own "best minds".
That's why I don't trust or believe in any of these disingenuous & self serving "saber-rattlers"

 

[trstar]

Name calling between grown men is not a good look.
It wasn't good between Cornell West and Michael Eric Dyson either.
I like Tariq and some of his viewpoints and I also like Roland.

 

[Drayonis]

110% cosign brother. (As usual...)

Cornell vs Obama.
Smiley vs Obama.
Watkins vs Obama.
Dyson vs Cornell.
Sharpton vs Cornell.
Harris Perry vs Cornell.
Boyce vs Umar.
Griff vs Zaza Ali.
Umar vs Stripper.
Tariq vs Umar.
Tariq vs Zaza Ali.
Umar vs Polight.

Bottom line: High profile Blacks (politicians, intellectuals & online personalities) just can't get it together.
It's NOT just White supremacy holding us back. It's ego, greed, arrogance & intellectual dishonesty from our own "best minds".
That's why I don't trust or believe in any of these disingenuous & self serving "saber-rattlers"

As soon as your movement has a "profit making component" whether individually or as a group that's where it turns into BRANDS A vs. BRANDS B.

Coke vs. Pepsi
Dove vs. Ivory
Walmart vs. Target
Burger King vs. Mcdonalds
KFC vs. Popeyes
Old english vs. St. Ides

**And here's the funny part. People rush in and say "I never liked so and so, he's a coon".....quickly. Wait, you were cosigning so and so's video's on youtube last week where he was going hard against whichever white supremacist...Now he's a coon just because he didn't agree with your favorite BRAND of Black activist?

I'm just looking at a lot of these black movement leaders like

EVERY week...it never fails. One minute you are doing a Youtube video with them and vibing, giving dap and cosigning. taking pictures and talking about building together and the NEXT week attacking them on twitter and then having your lemmings go in full swing.

Shits getting old and tired. NO ONE IS BLACK ENOUGH...NO ONE...if you make one misstep you are a sellout, a coon and "buck dancing" for the man....just like that. POOF.

 

[Drayonis]

How is ANY OF THIS supposed to happen when the people who are supposed to be the knowledge keepers are fighting on twitter every week?

"See them niggas ova deh? Don't FUCK with them Niggas"

...If the so-called truth tellers can't even get it together then what? Shit, at least keep your beefs private. At least disagree behind closed doors and find ways to fix conflict in a positive way. Naw...to Twitter we go, and then your sheep (who are no better than 2Pac and Biggie fans) rush in as your personal army on the attack.

 

[Tha Great Muta]

Tariq is a hustler, and I don't trust his motives, but as long as he is enlightening people, then its whatever. Its better he does the things he's doing than not doing them.

I respect your opinion brotha.Let's be honest. Trying to wake black people up/ black empowerment is not a profitable hustle at all. Tariq, Dr. Boyce, Umar, Claude Anderson, Mr.Fuller etc. Could easily go work for some white men, be coonin on CNN or tap dance for millions but they prefer to try to help our community. How else are they suppose to feed their families? We should be putting money into their pockets.

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

I kinda agree here. Normally I rock with Tariq 100%, but lately he's been backing some lost causes. First it was the chick from Randallstown, MD who we initially thought was killed by police after prolonged harassment over some traffic violations. Turns out, she was one of those sovereign citizen nuts who believe that no laws apply to them except God's. She tried to fight for that belief in her living room with a shotgun instead of a courtroom with a lawyer and effectively committed suicide by cop.

Now he's on Dr. Drew defending this actress who he has already clowned on his show several times. To paraphrase, she was a negro bed wench having gutter sex in public with her white boyfriend and tried to pull the race card when the cops came and got her Negro wake up call. He's actually in agreement with the two women on the panel, but for some reason he just being contrarian solely for the sake of argument. Not a good look.

Wait what he defending the chick from Django,where can I find this

 

[Tha Great Muta]

How is ANY OF THIS supposed to happen when the people who are supposed to be the knowledge keepers are fighting on twitter every week?

"See them niggas ova deh? Don't FUCK with them Niggas"

...If the so-called truth tellers can't even get it together then what? Shit, at least keep your beefs private. At least disagree behind closed doors and find ways to fix conflict in a positive way. Naw...to Twitter we go, and then your sheep (who are no better than 2Pac and Biggie fans) rush in as your personal army on the attack.

We are going to have disagreements because we really care. We just need to stop putting our business out in front street.Roland should be able to pick up the phone and call Tariq and vice versa, not go at it on that fucking Twitter...That being said dancing with Hilary is not a good look at all.

 

[Tha Great Muta]

Wait what he defending the chick from Django,where can I find this

Watch out for that poster. Soverign Nuts? Wtf

 

[TFN Crew]

Maybe Roland's plan is to do the same thing with Tariq that he did with Wendy Williams. Roland knows Tariq has a following and now he can either come on Tariq's show or Tariq can come on his show (if he has one) and they can hash it out there.

 

[Better]

I respect your opinion brotha.Let's be honest. Trying to wake black people up/ black empowerment is not a profitable hustle at all. Tariq, Dr. Boyce, Umar, Claude Anderson, Mr.Fuller etc. Could easily go work some white men or tap dance for millions but they prefer to try to help our community. How else are they suppose to feed their families?

Its profitable enough that he's continuing on with it. He's making bread from those DVD's, bro ... AND speaking engagements. I'm sure he's selling merch, too.

I just saw a video with dude streaming live, and someone asked him how could they get him to come to their city, and dude ... if you're a Tariq supporter, you'll defend it, but it was the way he came off when he said basically that there is one way to get him and that is to get the money right. He said it like it was obvious that thats what it takes to get him, and it just came off like this is why he does what he does. I saw a video on FB that someone posted of Sotomayor "exposing" Tariq saying that if he won the Powerball jackpot - thats when it was up over a bil - that he wasn't making no more DVD's or nothing. Some people said he was just joking, but considering I see dude as a hustler, its believable to ME.

Dude went from Flex to this new enlightened brotha in the blink of an eye. I didn't follow Flex, but I saw dudes on BGOL talking about him all the time, and the next thing I know, dude is now conscious, and asking for money to fund Hidden Colors 1.

It is what it is, man.

My gut tells me nobody makes that big of a transformation that damn fast. But I don't need to trust his motives ...

.... as long as he's providing information, I won't knock what he's doing.

 

[tajshan]

Peace,

This is actually problematic. These brothers are supposed to be moving the discussion forward. Instead, they're allowing their egos and self-interest to reduce them to players in a rap battle.

Terrible.

Agreed

 

[Tha Great Muta]

Its profitable enough that he's continuing on with it. He's making bread from those DVD's, bro ... AND speaking engagements. I'm sure he's selling merch, too.

I just saw a video with dude streaming live, and someone asked him how could they get him to come to their city, and dude ... if you're a Tariq supporter, you'll defend it, but it was the way he came off when he said basically that there is one way to get him and that is to get the money right. He said it like it was obvious that thats what it takes to get him, and it just came off like this is why he does what he does. I saw a video on FB that someone posted of Sotomayor "exposing" Tariq saying that if he won the Powerball jackpot - thats when it was up over a bil - that he wasn't making no more DVD's or nothing. Some people said he was just joking, but considering I see dude as a hustler, its believable to ME.

Dude went from Flex to this new enlightened brotha in the blink of an eye. I didn't follow Flex, but I saw dudes on BGOL talking about him all the time, and the next thing I know, dude is now conscious, and asking for money to fund Hidden Colors 1.

It is what it is, man.

My gut tells me nobody makes that big of a transformation that damn fast. But I don't need to trust his motives ...

.... as long as he's providing information, I won't knock what he's doing.

I feel you fam. Why WOULDN'T he keep making the DVDs? After making something like that you pretty much blackball youself out of mainstream (white controlled) media. And Tariq has always talked about the Isis papers, Dr.Welsing,Sundown towns back in his mackin days. And is there something wrong with him telling dude to get his money up? To get Tariq to come to his city can't be THAT expensive.

Btw Fuck Sotomayor.

 

[cashwhisperer]

To be honest, Tariq DOES name call a lot, which is what the beef is about. Tariq called the woman NBW (negro bed wench) and Roland got mad. I don't give a fuck, I agree she is a NBW, but u still are breaking the code Tariq....

It's crazy how that white guy was calling Tariq crazy for using the terms "suspected race soldier" and "suspected white supremacists". White people really believe their own lies when it's time for them to lie. White racists will deny obvious shit like, like blaming slavery on the Jews (which in part is true) and acting like they barely had shit yo do with it. But when you reference all the "forefathers" if this country, you see that they ALL were admitted white supremacists. It's insanity.

 

[Tha Great Muta]

Maybe Roland's plan is to do the same thing with Tariq that he did with Wendy Williams. Roland knows Tariq has a following and now he can either come on Tariq's show or Tariq can come on his show (if he has one) and they can hash it out there.

Brotha you are on to something.

 

[Mentor B]

NOPE!!!

That's a great list but it becomes completely invalid considering it is missing a primary element which becomes our repetitive downfall due to white sabotage that should always be anticipated.

The purpose of learning history is to not repeat the same MISTAKES!!!!!

 

[JimJones]

Its profitable enough that he's continuing on with it. He's making bread from those DVD's, bro ... AND speaking engagements. I'm sure he's selling merch, too.

I just saw a video with dude streaming live, and someone asked him how could they get him to come to their city, and dude ... if you're a Tariq supporter, you'll defend it, but it was the way he came off when he said basically that there is one way to get him and that is to get the money right. He said it like it was obvious that thats what it takes to get him, and it just came off like this is why he does what he does. I saw a video on FB that someone posted of Sotomayor "exposing" Tariq saying that if he won the Powerball jackpot - thats when it was up over a bil - that he wasn't making no more DVD's or nothing. Some people said he was just joking, but considering I see dude as a hustler, its believable to ME.

Dude went from Flex to this new enlightened brotha in the blink of an eye. I didn't follow Flex, but I saw dudes on BGOL talking about him all the time, and the next thing I know, dude is now conscious, and asking for money to fund Hidden Colors 1.

It is what it is, man.

My gut tells me nobody makes that big of a transformation that damn fast. But I don't need to trust his motives ...

.... as long as he's providing information, I won't knock what he's doing.

It is a mistake to think or believe that one cannot transition from one perspective or world view to another. very few of us are born into consciousness having never been subjeted to the ill affects of white supremacy. The path is infinite the destination is singular, how you get there is only folly for those whom are still on the path. If anyone think that the money that can be made from working on behalf of Black people is worth the hell you go through while doing the work they have not worked on our behalf. All the hell Tariq, Sista Francis, Bro. Umar, Bro. Wesley, Dr Joy or whom ever is speaking on our behalf give white folk, I can assure the most pain and he'll they receive is from Black folk and that shit is disheartening but they persevere as they should. When you have experienced the joy of making a difference in the life of an individual and see what it did for them by having a knowledge of self and our enemy, you will understand why to raise one from the dead is worth spending your days and night in the grave yard. I hope that the hidden color series make it to Hidden Colors 25, as long as there is information to be shared it should be shared.

 

[CptMARVEL]

As soon as your movement has a "profit making component" whether individually or as a group that's where it turns into BRANDS A vs. BRANDS B.

Coke vs. Pepsi
Dove vs. Ivory
Walmart vs. Target
Burger King vs. Mcdonalds
KFC vs. Popeyes
Old english vs. St. Ides

**And here's the funny part. People rush in and say "I never liked so and so, he's a coon".....quickly. Wait, you were cosigning so and so's video's on youtube last week where he was going hard against whichever white supremacist...Now he's a coon just because he didn't agree with your favorite BRAND of Black activist?

I'm just looking at a lot of these black movement leaders like

EVERY week...it never fails. One minute you are doing a Youtube video with them and vibing, giving dap and cosigning. taking pictures and talking about building together and the NEXT week attacking them on twitter and then having your lemmings go in full swing.

Shits getting old and tired. NO ONE IS BLACK ENOUGH...NO ONE...if you make one misstep you are a sellout, a coon and "buck dancing" for the man....just like that. POOF.

Bravo & 110% cosign with you brother!!!!


That's EXACTLY what is at the heart of the matter in regards to the so called "Black Power" movement.
Many Black people who've managed to find a voice, a platform & some followers usually show their true colors after a little time in the public spotlight.
Tariq Nasheed, Umar Johnson and other snake oil salesmen are nothing more than opportunistic race hustlers who speak well and tell Blacks what they want to hear all the while they're fleecing the very people they claim to be helping.
These kind of cats only really value 2 things: money & pussy.

I mean, Tariq is still pushing his "mackin'" series online all the while trying to tell Blacks about "White Supremacy". I recently saw parts of a video he made called "How to Pick 'em up, Bang 'em & Drop 'em Off".
Really? THIS is the kind of guy the Black community looks to for leadership, guidance & knowledge???
This freakin' mutt is trying to teach young Black men how to run game on, to fuck & turn out YOUR daughters!!!!

And then there's "Dr." Umar Johnson. A man who can't/won't produce any proof he actually IS a doctor of anything but because he speaks really well, tells Blacks that White people are the problem and blows smoke up the asses of Black women he can ask Black people to give him 4 million dollars for a school that will NEVER see the light of day. All the while using this money to fund his own lifestyle, make paid speaking engagements & to fuck strippers. (And then call said stripper a "maggot" 'cuz she exposed him.) And when he doesn't get the money he tried to raise, he calls you all "Trifiling Ass Black Folk".

These guys are real good when they're in agreement with one another. But when there's the slightest hint of disagreement between them, or a series of REAL hard hitting questions about who they are or their credentials and especially about $$$$, they become defensive, hostile and show their hidden insecurities. And anyone who disagrees or questions them is now a coon, a sellout, a "bedwench" or an agent. Fuck this shit!!!
Blacks can do better than this...

 

[Tha Great Muta]

I guess this explains why he was mad:

 

[Ill Paragraph]

Peace,

Tariq vs. Umar
Umar vs. Strippers
Tariq vs. Godzilla...

Shit gets old. Egos man. Egos...

Exactly. Cats need to learn to subjugate their egos to the cause that they represent. This is bigger than bruised egos.

Roland should have privately reached out to Tariq, if he thought it was an issue, and Tariq should have been big enough to not publicly accuse Roland of being bought and paid for.

We need to avoid these self-destructive pitfalls.

 

[Ill Paragraph]

Peace,

As soon as your movement has a "profit making component" whether individually or as a group that's where it turns into BRANDS A vs. BRANDS B.

Coke vs. Pepsi
Dove vs. Ivory
Walmart vs. Target
Burger King vs. Mcdonalds
KFC vs. Popeyes
Old english vs. St. Ides

**And here's the funny part. People rush in and say "I never liked so and so, he's a coon".....quickly. Wait, you were cosigning so and so's video's on youtube last week where he was going hard against whichever white supremacist...Now he's a coon just because he didn't agree with your favorite BRAND of Black activist?

I'm just looking at a lot of these black movement leaders like

EVERY week...it never fails. One minute you are doing a Youtube video with them and vibing, giving dap and cosigning. taking pictures and talking about building together and the NEXT week attacking them on twitter and then having your lemmings go in full swing.

Shits getting old and tired. NO ONE IS BLACK ENOUGH...NO ONE...if you make one misstep you are a sellout, a coon and "buck dancing" for the man....just like that. POOF.

Exactly right.

Cats are falling for the okey doke, because Roland was the man when he was taking Wendy Williams to task.

 

[Better]

It is a mistake to think or believe that one cannot transition from one perspective or world view to another. very few of us are born into consciousness having never been subjeted to the ill affects of white supremacy. The path is infinite the destination is singular, how you get there is only folly for those whom are still on the path. If anyone think that the money that can be made from working on behalf of Black people is worth the hell you go through while doing the work they have not worked on our behalf. All the hell Tariq, Sista Francis, Bro. Umar, Bro. Wesley, Dr Joy or whom ever is speaking on our behalf give white folk, I can assure the most pain and he'll they receive is from Black folk and that shit is disheartening but they persevere as they should. When you have experienced the joy of making a difference in the life of an individual and see what it did for them by having a knowledge of self and our enemy, you will understand why to raise one from the dead is worth spending your days and night in the grave yard. I hope that the hidden color series make it to Hidden Colors 25, as long as there is information to be shared it should be shared.

I hear you, bro' ...

... I just find it interesting that someone would transition from one side selling DVD's, to the other side ..... selling DVD's. I'm not saying dude shouldn't be able to make his bread, but how do you change SO QUICKLY, and yet you're already seeking to profit off of your enlightenment almost the moment after you made the public aware of the transformation??

It really comes off no different than the street hustler who decided to become a Christian pastor, and is now hustling Christians.

Not only that, but his whole person just makes him seem Fugazi.

But, it whatever. I don't believe in him, and you do .... so our opinions come as no surprise.

 

[TFN Crew]

To be honest, Tariq DOES name call a lot, which is what the beef is about. Tariq called the woman NBW (negro bed wench) and Roland got mad. I don't give a fuck, I agree she is a NBW, but u still are breaking the code Tariq....

Out of all things this is what Roland came at Tariq about? Roland must be feeling some kind of way about Tariq's last podcast "Negro Puppets".

 

[DaAssWatcher]

I agree with this, and have come to this conclusion as well.

Most people can't 'see', and you can't expect people to be committed to what their eyes can't see. Its the responsibility of their visionaries and courageous to make moves, and everyone else will fall in line.

It does seem that we feel if we don't attempt to awaken everybody FIRST, then get moving, we're failing the community.

A fact of life is not everyone will be saved, and not everyone WANTS to be.

Its profitable enough that he's continuing on with it. He's making bread from those DVD's, bro ... AND speaking engagements. I'm sure he's selling merch, too.

I just saw a video with dude streaming live, and someone asked him how could they get him to come to their city, and dude ... if you're a Tariq supporter, you'll defend it, but it was the way he came off when he said basically that there is one way to get him and that is to get the money right. He said it like it was obvious that thats what it takes to get him, and it just came off like this is why he does what he does. I saw a video on FB that someone posted of Sotomayor "exposing" Tariq saying that if he won the Powerball jackpot - thats when it was up over a bil - that he wasn't making no more DVD's or nothing. Some people said he was just joking, but considering I see dude as a hustler, its believable to ME.

Dude went from Flex to this new enlightened brotha in the blink of an eye. I didn't follow Flex, but I saw dudes on BGOL talking about him all the time, and the next thing I know, dude is now conscious, and asking for money to fund Hidden Colors 1.

It is what it is, man.

My gut tells me nobody makes that big of a transformation that damn fast. But I don't need to trust his motives ...

.... as long as he's providing information, I won't knock what he's doing.

His bread and better were his game books and lectures because his audience was diverse and broughr more money.He had to make a decision between getting relationship money or take on white supremacy and lose a big chunk of his audience and he chose the latter.
Chosing to make money from only a small segment of Black people vs making money from a large portion plus other races both here and internationally is genuine because a bigger part of your audience doesnt give a fuck about hearing bout white supremacy so you're going into it well aware you're taking a huge loss.

 

[Better]

His bread and better were his game books and lectures because his audience was diverse and broughr more money.He had to make a decision between getting relationship money or take on white supremacy and lose a big chunk of his audience and he chose the latter.
Chosing to make money from only a small segment of Black people vs making money from a large portion plus other races both here and internationally is genuine because a bigger part of your audience doesnt give a fuck about hearing bout white supremacy so you're going into it well aware you're taking a huge loss.

I believe dude is trying to cash-out. I'm just being honest. We don't have any numbers on what he was bringing in on his 'mack' shit.

I know for a fact 'potential customer base' and 'actual customer base' aren't the same thing.

Or, in other words, dude probably had way more followers than he had customers.

For instance, I follow battle rap, and there is not much money in it for leagues that throw battles -- even the top leagues. One league has near 600k subscribers, but struggle to get even a tenth of that no. to pay for the live stream for events.

In any case ...

All I know is, he seems to be cut from the same cloth as every other hustler-gone-good. No matter what they're doing, their primary motivation is money. Transformations happen, but instant transformations like his? And you were trying to profit off of it damn near the moment you publicly announced your switch?

I believe he is mostly full of shit.

BUT, the knowledge is being spread, so I'm cool.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

I believe dude is trying to cash-out. I'm just being honest. We don't have any numbers on what he was bringing in on his 'mack' shit.

I know for a fact 'potential customer base' and 'actual customer base' aren't the same thing.

Or, in other words, dude probably had way more followers than he had customers.

For instance, I follow battle rap, and there is not much money in it for leagues that throw battles -- even the top leagues. One league has near 600k subscribers, but struggle to get even a tenth of that no. to pay for the live stream for events.

In any case ...

All I know is, he seems to be cut from the same cloth as every other hustler-gone-good. No matter what they're doing, their primary motivation is money. Transformations happen, but instant transformations like his? And you were trying to profit off of it damn near the moment you publicly announced your switch?

I believe he is mostly full of shit.

BUT, the knowledge is being spread, so I'm cool.

in this cac ruled society, how else are you gonna survive if there isnt money involved.

dude has a family, house and car... and this aint narnia!!!

 

[Better]

in this cac ruled society, how else are you gonna survive if there isnt money involved.

dude has a family, house and car... and this aint narnia!!!

I'm the last man to knock somebody trying to come up ...

...but it obvious for every 'persona' he has, there is a money making scheme attached to it. Whether he's a mack or conscious, he's trying to monetize.

As I've said before, I like the fact that he's empowering people with knowledge, but I also know his motivations for doing so. At least I trust my gut as to what his motivations.

Maybe I'm wrong.

My perception of him doesn't make or break him, tho'.

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

Beef between intellects on black matters.

I respect both dudes greatly. Such a shame that I read about this stuff too often.

Tariq is an intellect? That's where your entire premise falls apart.

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

And it now seems like every week these brothers/sisters in the movement are going at each other proving further that black unity ultimately is a myth.

There is unity. Unity to serve the white man. There's no unity to get off the plantation. You should know that by now. Folks aren't willing to sacrifice themselves for the greater good because there's no universal greater good.

 

[militantmidget]

yall notice tariq added his hidden colors hashtag when he was posting videos of the young woman who the police killed in baltimore?

is that considered profiting/ trying to frive traffic off of a black womans death?

who is tariq building with? or is he just tearing cats down to create a lane for himself?

I think it's a little bit of both. He's trying to market his product but at the same time broaden the minds of many blk ppl who don't understand what time it is in this country currently. There are still PLENTY of blk folk in the dark when it comes to our history.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

I'm the last man to knock somebody trying to come up ...

...but it obvious for every 'persona' he has, there is a money making scheme attached to it. Whether he's a mack or conscious, he's trying to monetize.

As I've said before, I like the fact that he's empowering people with knowledge, but I also know his motivations for doing so. At least I trust my gut as to what his motivations.

Maybe I'm wrong.

My perception of him doesn't make or break him, tho'.

dude is a born hustler...

I know the types very well....Id rather see them hustle constructively..

then the other way...

 

[Better]

dude is a born hustler...

I know the types very well....Id rather see them hustle constructively..

then the other way...

We see eye to eye on that.

My issue is with people who have put him and some of these other leads above criticism.

I call it like I see it. If my perception of him and anybody else is wrong, then I wouldn't be the first person to misjudge someone else.

I feel the same about him that I do Umar. Good works are coming from him, but dude's ego is on some next shit.

I fucks with Boyce more than all three, but I peep Boyce as well. He does try to act like he's above the pettiness and ego - e.g. he'll knock that plantation education for others, but will quickly remind you of the credentials he got from one of those white universities, tho - but he finds little slick ways to throw his jabs. But, I feel like that man sacrificed more than most people EVER would for the sake of black people. I know his passion is truly for black folks. Perfection is not a requirement, just sincerity and effort.