Teen Won't Be Able To Walk At Graduation Unless He Cuts His Dreadlocks

[Star]

Plain and simple the young men are breaking the rules, but what needs to be asked is.

Sorry ,, But Hair is Always about Race.

Way back 1980, I was in the Marine Corps, The hair regs say No hair at the ears but upto 3 inchs on the top of the head. So I with my curly straight hair, after about two inchs would start to curl. I would have the sides cut high 'n tight with about an inch or so on top. You best believe some got after me about that. But with all the Puerto Ricans and others with their hair longer on top. And I made sure it was clean around the ears so That I was always in the rules. I was young back then and that phase lasted about 4 months

Today, I started letting it grow out again. Have not cut my hair since November. People say I am looking like Don King. But I do Not care

 

[REDLINE]

Sorry ,, But Hair is Always about Race.

Way back 1980, I was in the Marine Corps, The hair regs say No hair at the ears but upto 3 inchs on the top of the head. So I with my curly straight hair, after about two inchs would start to curl. I would have the sides cut high 'n tight with about an inch or so on top. You best believe some got after me about that. But with all the Puerto Ricans and others with their hair longer on top. And I made sure it was clean around the ears so That I was always in the rules. I was young back then and that phase lasted about 4 months

Today, I started letting it grow out again. Have not cut my hair since November. People say I am looking like Don King. But I do Not care

Hair isn’t “Always” about race. If the rules state that your hair can’t be below your ears or collar. But your hair’s to your ankles but you wear it in a bun, you’re breaking the rules.

The rules are in place but they wear it in a bun to get around the rules.

White, Mexican, Puerto Rican, East/West Indian, Irish, Russian it doesn’t matter. If you hair’s to your ankles and you wear it in a bun or braided up to get past that rule, you know what you’re doing.

Quick question, would those two young men be able to be in the military with those hair styles? I mean, it’s not touching the collar or below the ears. And if it’s braided right it won’t extend 3 inches about third heads. Think about that...

In your case, they were on some bullshit.

As I stated before, are all other students forced to comply with the rules?

And why was he able to have his hair like that for year and now it’s an issue?

Those are the only two questions that matter.

 

[exiledking]

Looks like it’s a “Length” issue, not a dreadlock or Black thing. They asked him to cut it to a certain length and I don’t know what that length is?

I wouldn’t cut mine but it’s the school’s policy so

"Barbers Hill ISD has a long standing dress code, but we absolutely allow dreadlocks. What we do not allow is any action that circumvents or violates the provision regarding hair length. The student in question was NEVER forbidden from attending school," a spokesperson for the district said.


https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...district-faces-backlash-after-student-told-he

Imagine if a white boy with his hippy hair pulled back tried that. They'd say the same. They say when his hair was shorter it was within the regs. Off the shoulder and above the earlobes. His hair has grownongee so he has to pull it up to be within. Like a girl.

Even in Trini culture they don't like dreadlocks. Even Jamaican culture. Rastas locked their hair TO look menacing. Traditional Jamaicans didn't approve. This is about a "traditional " look, not race shit. Dumb kid and his dumb parents don't get it. His grandmother would tell him to cut that shit. Everybody's all faux new age now, which is fine, but you can't be talking new age, but trying to qualify it with history at the same time. In Caribbean history, locks are associated with counter culture.

 

[exiledking]

Sorry ,, But Hair is Always about Race.

Way back 1980, I was in the Marine Corps, The hair regs say No hair at the ears but upto 3 inchs on the top of the head. So I with my curly straight hair, after about two inchs would start to curl. I would have the sides cut high 'n tight with about an inch or so on top. You best believe some got after me about that. But with all the Puerto Ricans and others with their hair longer on top. And I made sure it was clean around the ears so That I was always in the rules. I was young back then and that phase lasted about 4 months

Today, I started letting it grow out again. Have not cut my hair since November. People say I am looking like Don King. But I do Not care

Yeah you look like Don King. Guess who's saying that about you? Other Black people. You'll grow out of this dumbass phase.

 

[exiledking]

is it private school or public school. if it's a private they have more leeway to implement and enforce a dress code. the parents/students probably got and signed an acknowledgment of it with handbook

is the length requirement applied to boys with long hair?

is he allowed to style his hair in a manner to minimize the length?

went to catholic school...freshman year locks and cornrows were forbidden. by senior they were acceptable.

times change, it's just alot slower in some places

Read the articke from a local paper instead of CNN and you'll see the answer to your questions. Then you'll see how national liberal media intentionally doesn't answer pertinent questions to start shit.

my bad here ya go

Mother withdraws Barbers Hill student sent to in-school suspension for refusing to cut his dreadlocks

Barbers Hill High School student Deandre Arnold has always been a good student.

www.click2houston.com

 

[exiledking]

I wonder if students can wear locks in a good school IN Trinidad, Since these people are so into their Trini culture

 

[SWASHBUCKLA]

Imagine if a white boy with his hippy hair pulled back tried that. They'd say the same. They say when his hair was shorter it was within the regs. Off the shoulder and above the earlobes. His hair has grownongee so he has to pull it up to be within. Like a girl.

Even in Trini culture they don't like dreadlocks. Even Jamaican culture. Rastas locked their hair TO look menacing. Traditional Jamaicans didn't approve. This is about a "traditional " look, not race shit. Dumb kid and his dumb parents don't get it. His grandmother would tell him to cut that shit. Everybody's all faux new age now, which is fine, but you can't be talking new age, but trying to qualify it with history at the same time. In Caribbean history, locks are associated with counter culture.

Are you Blunt?

 

[SVT]

This Picasso nigga

 

[exiledking]

Are you Blunt?

According to some , I’m the other guy they say— captain Marvel I think his name is

 

[exiledking]

Black people are tricked into arguing for men to have long flown hair in the name of “culture” lmao.

 

[REDLINE]

Imagine if a white boy with his hippy hair pulled back tried that. They'd say the same. They say when his hair was shorter it was within the regs. Off the shoulder and above the earlobes. His hair has grownongee so he has to pull it up to be within. Like a girl.

Even in Trini culture they don't like dreadlocks. Even Jamaican culture. Rastas locked their hair TO look menacing. Traditional Jamaicans didn't approve. This is about a "traditional " look, not race shit. Dumb kid and his dumb parents don't get it. His grandmother would tell him to cut that shit. Everybody's all faux new age now, which is fine, but you can't be talking new age, but trying to qualify it with history at the same time. In Caribbean history, locks are associated with counter culture.

My point isn’t about Locs/Dreadlocks. It’s about the length of hair for every male student. If no other student in 30 years had long hair, then why should you be allowed to if it’s not a religious reasons.

I wonder if students can wear locks in a good school IN Trinidad, Since these people are so into their Trini culture

If they have rules against long hair then no. Again, this isn’t about Locs/Dreds. It’s about length. Would schools in Trinidad let a male student have a perm with his hair down his back if they have rules against short hair?

The answer is no.

Black people are tricked into arguing for men to have long flown hair in the name of “culture” lmao.

If anyone wants to have long hair that’s cool, as long as everyone’s allowed to have long hair.

 

[REDLINE]

SVT, I write in clear enough English so that everyone’s able to comprehend what I’m saying.

If you’re not intelligent enough to grasp what I’m saying, place me on ignore or don’t read my posts.

The last thing I want to do is reply to a muthafucka that can’t think.

 

[big pimp]

The coonery. SMH

 

[REDLINE]

The coonery. SMH

Those niggas are faggits and coon, nobody “Needs” to cut anything!

Those dudes are lost.

And quick question...WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK’S GONNA WATCH THEM FOR 2 HOURS??!!

 

[SVT]

SVT, I write in clear enough English so that everyone’s able to comprehend what I’m saying.

If you’re not intelligent enough to grasp what I’m saying, place me on ignore or don’t read my posts.

The last thing I want to do is reply to a muthafucka that can’t think.

you that cross eyed nigga that be on cnn

I forgot his name.

 

[REDLINE]

you that cross eyed nigga that be on cnn

I forgot his name.

You that faggit nigga from Empire? I forgot his name.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

According to some , I’m the other guy they say— captain Marvel I think his name is

no if it was referring to you....

that would be

captain faggot....

 

[ghoststrike]

you that cross eyed nigga that be on cnn

I forgot his name.

Paris Dennard who is probably considered a genius to the ones in this thread attempting to defend or give the racist policy the benefit of doubt

SMH @ the idiotically insane argument talking about Jamaican/Trinidad...blah blah that has NOTHING to do with Barbers Hill Independent School District racist policy that was created a few months ago then selectively applied after a white female teacher whined that locs are "thug culture" because she saw one of the whopping 4% of black students with locs

But "there is no racism with black hair" and "systematic racism is not a problem for Black Americans "

FOH

As expected, white male students are posting graduating pics of their long hair at the SAME school to exposing the fuck out of the LIE about the hair length policy for all male students.

The internet says #Undefeated

People are posting evidence of white boys with long hair attending Barbers Hill on twitter.

I knew this would happen once the story broke. Not a good look for the school or the Board. All they had to do was let the dumb teacher hang herself on social media but noooo, they had to change the rules all of a sudden and try to sell the "over 30 years enforced" lie.

This is all I was asking for, now we have a problem!

Honestly, I could smell the BS from a mile away before the social media exposure

 

[REDLINE]

Paris Dennard who is probably considered a genius to the ones in this thread attempting to defend or give the racist policy the benefit of doubt

SMH @ the idiotically insane argument talking about Jamaican/Trinidad...blah blah that has NOTHING to do with Barbers Hill Independent School District racist policy that was created a few months ago then selectively applied after a white female teacher whined that locs are "thug culture" because she saw one of the whopping 4% of black students with locs

But "there is no racism with black hair" and "systematic racism is not a problem for Black Americans "

FOH

As expected, white male students are posting graduating pics of their long hair at the SAME school to exposing the fuck out of the LIE about the hair length policy for all male students.



The internet says #Undefeated



I knew this would happen once the story broke. Not a good look for the school or the Board. All they had to do was let the dumb teacher hang herself on social media but noooo, they had to change the rules all of a sudden and try to sell the "over 30 years enforced" lie.



Honestly, I could smell the BS from a mile away before the social media exposure

At no point in this thread am I “Defending” the school district. I’m simply asking is the same rules applied to all male students regardless of race or hair texture.

Basically the young men with the dreadlocks are going to school like this

but saying their hair’s not touching their eyebrows or collars so they’re l complying. And that’s bullshit they know it.

Now they got the nation rallied around them as if it’s a cultural thing and they’re being done wrong. If the rules state your hair can’t be longer than 3 inches and yours is 15, what’s your argument?

I just think everyone involved is full of shit. The school district and administrators for all of a sudden having an issue with it when he’s been there for years.

And the young men for knowing they’re in the wrong but acting like it’s a cultural thing.

Do you know how I know the young men are bullshitting? Because I would’ve done the EXACT SAME THING if I was in that district and wanted long hair!

 

[SVT]

Naw not that Paris nigga

This nigga really really cock eyed.

 

[Mixd]

just think everyone involved is full of shit. The school district and administrators for all of a sudden having an issue with it when he’s been there for years.

It's funny they allow him to "graduate" each grade level, 9th to 10th, 10th to 11th but all of a sudden it's an issue. He spent three and a half years there and...

"We don't want our negra's out here representing us on stage with all that hair like that and all"
(said with the deepest southern drawl)

 

[big pimp]

SMH

 

[Shaka54]

If they would like to change the rule to adjust to the times that's great but again, that isn't what this is about and many are getting sidetracked.

Plain and simple the young men are breaking the rules, but what needs to be asked is.

1. Is every male student forced to abide by their rules regarding the hair length rule?

2. Why has it been ok for him to have his hair like that for years and now all of a sudden they have an issue?

Those are the only two questions that matter.

Every other question about changing of the times and race are pointless. If they want to change the rules so that male students will be able to have long hair that's cool, but that’s not what this is about.

I understand fully but now that it's become a hot button issue, the solutions can and will be discussed at the same time. When you ask those two questions, discussing what are the motivating factors is a part of the conversation and inevitably, how this could've been avoided or how to avoid it moving forward.

 

[exiledking]

My point isn’t about Locs/Dreadlocks. It’s about the length of hair for every male student. If no other student in 30 years had long hair, then why should you be allowed to if it’s not a religious reasons.



If they have rules against long hair then no. Again, this isn’t about Locs/Dreds. It’s about length. Would schools in Trinidad let a male student have a perm with his hair down his back if they have rules against short hair?

The answer is no.



If anyone wants to have long hair that’s cool, as long as everyone’s allowed to have long hair.

I agree with you.

 

[exiledking]

It's funny they allow him to "graduate" each grade level, 9th to 10th, 10th to 11th but all of a sudden it's an issue. He spent three and a half years there and...

"We don't want our negra's out here representing us on stage with all that hair like that and all"
(said with the deepest southern drawl)

I dunno if you know this , but HAIR GROWS over time , my friend.

 

[Shaka54]

Hair isn’t “Always” about race. If the rules state that your hair can’t be below your ears or collar. But your hair’s to your ankles but you wear it in a bun, you’re breaking the rules.

The rules are in place but they wear it in a bun to get around the rules.

White, Mexican, Puerto Rican, East/West Indian, Irish, Russian it doesn’t matter. If you hair’s to your ankles and you wear it in a bun or braided up to get past that rule, you know what you’re doing.

Quick question, would those two young men be able to be in the military with those hair styles? I mean, it’s not touching the collar or below the ears. And if it’s braided right it won’t extend 3 inches about third heads. Think about that...

In your case, they were on some bullshit.

As I stated before, are all other students forced to comply with the rules?

And why was he able to have his hair like that for year and now it’s an issue?

Those are the only two questions that matter.

Those rules weren't written with anyone else in mind. No, they would not be able to wear their hair like that in the military...at least NOT YET.
Again, just like in the Army, this wasn't seen coning from the horizon but now it's here. Some rules WERE indeed made to be broken and that's why Standard Operating Procedures (SOPs) are not set in stone. Adjustments have to be made on the fly based on the variables that you're presented with.
What if there were Sikh students at that school. They don't cut their hair, it's just covered with the turban.

If the rule is the rule, and that's final, how would YOU handle it? Would you stick to saying that there are NO exceptions to be made?
When the dress code was written, it wasn't taken into consideration...who on that Board could've seen it coming? Black males were wearing fades so it wasn't ever an issue that had to be addressed in the past.

 

[Shaka54]

I dunno if you know this , but HAIR GROWS over time , my friend.

I dunno if you caught this, but his hair has been in locs since he was in the 7th grade.

 

[REDLINE]

It's funny they allow him to "graduate" each grade level, 9th to 10th, 10th to 11th but all of a sudden it's an issue. He spent three and a half years there and...

"We don't want our negra's out here representing us on stage with all that hair like that and all"
(said with the deepest southern drawl)

Agreed, why now?

SMH

Get these dudes all the way the fuck outta here!
Black men can wear whatever they want!

I understand fully but now that it's become a hot button issue, the solutions can and will be discussed at the same time. When you ask those two questions, discussing what are the motivating factors is a part of the conversation and inevitably, how this could've been avoided or how to avoid it moving forward.

First of all...

And these hairstyles aren’t approved.

Regardless of texture, just because you wear your hair like this.

 

[TimRock]

Here's more evidence. This was posted by one of the teachers at Barbers Hill.

Where is this from and has anything been done about it yet?

 

[REDLINE]

Those rules weren't written with anyone else in mind. No, they would not be able to wear their hair like that in the military...at least NOT YET.
Again, just like in the Army, this wasn't seen coning from the horizon but now it's here. Some rules WERE indeed made to be broken and that's why Standard Operating Procedures (SOPs) are not set in stone. Adjustments have to be made on the fly based on the variables that you're presented with.
What if there were Sikh students at that school. They don't cut their hair, it's just covered with the turban.

If the rule is the rule, and that's final, how would YOU handle it? Would you stick to saying that there are NO exceptions to be made?
When the dress code was written, it wasn't taken into consideration...who on that Board could've seen it coming? Black males were wearing fades so it wasn't ever an issue that had to be addressed in the past.

You’re talking about religious reasons. I already stated the school board would have to bend on religious reasons.

Most have to be clean shaven in the military. But if you have a skin condition some are allowed to have beards for medical reasons.

Again, this is isn’t what we’re talking about.

What we’re talking about is two kids who want long hair, and found a way to hustle the system for years. And now they don’t understand why they were able to get away with if for years and now all of a sudden there’s an issue?

That’s the issue at hand.

I have no issue with long hair and I encourage them to do what they want. But if the school has rules that everyone abides buy, then you need to do the same and don’t cry wolf when you can’t.

 

[Shaka54]

The coonery. SMH

Whachu talm bout @big pimp "We Black out chea!"

 

[Shaka54]

You’re talking about religious reasons. I already stated the school board would have to bend on religious reasons.

Most have to be clean shaven in the military. But if you have a skin condition some are allowed to have beards for medical reasons.

Again, this is isn’t what we’re talking about.

What we’re talking about is two kids who want long hair, and found a way to hustle the system for years. And now they don’t understand why they were able to get away with if for years and now all of a sudden there’s an issue?

That’s the issue at hand.

I have no issue with long hair and I encourage them to do what they want. But if the school has rules that everyone abides buy, then you need to do the same and don’t cry wolf when you can’t.

I'm actually talking about the outdated policy that was written based on the Board Members vision of a model citizen and that EXCEPTIONS can be and ARE made on a daily basis. Rather than allow this ONE student to walk since this is in the eleventh hour and revisit the Dress Code over the summer, they're on some Constitutional Right to do so bullshit. And this issue IS about race.

I think that the exception could and SHOULD be made for DeAndre but his younger cousin has been given ample notice to comply if the Dress Code is not revised prior to HIS graduation. In fact, he's already getting the In School Suspensions now.

 

[REDLINE]

I'm actually talking about the outdated policy that was written based on the Board Members vision of a model citizen and that EXCEPTIONS can be and ARE made on a daily basis. Rather than allow this ONE student to walk since this is in the eleventh hour and revisit the Dress Code over the summer, they're on some Constitutional Right to do so bullshit. And this issue IS about race.

I think that the exception could and SHOULD be made for DeAndre but his younger cousin has been given ample notice to comply if the Dress Code is not revised prior to HIS graduation. In fact, he's already getting the In School Suspensions now.

How is this about race if every male student is forced to comply?

I posted examples of “White” hair that also wouldn’t be permitted.

This school isn’t the only school with a hair length policy for male students. It’s weird that it’s a public school, usually it’s private or military that has those policies.

 

[REDLINE]

I'm actually talking about the outdated policy that was written based on the Board Members vision of a model citizen and that EXCEPTIONS can be and ARE made on a daily basis. Rather than allow this ONE student to walk since this is in the eleventh hour and revisit the Dress Code over the summer, they're on some Constitutional Right to do so bullshit. And this issue IS about race.

I think that the exception could and SHOULD be made for DeAndre but his younger cousin has been given ample notice to comply if the Dress Code is not revised prior to HIS graduation. In fact, he's already getting the In School Suspensions now.

I respect how those in the link below are going about getting things changed.

Not “Just Hair”: Central Catholic High School Hair Policy


The 2017/2018 Central Catholic High School Student/Parent Handbook states “…Hair must be its natural color, clean, neatly combed, not totally covering the ears or eyes, or falling below the shirt collar. Sideburns may not extend below the ear or extend forward toward the cheek. Shaved heads or hairstyles with designs, patterns, lines, weaves, spikes, braids, locks, twists, or ponytails are not permitted. Closely cut sides and top (military style) are permitted. Hair shall not exceed two and one-half inches from the scalp.

DeMatha Catholic High School, an all-boys school in Maryland, allows their students to wear braids and cornrows. The DeMatha Catholic High School Parent and Student Handbook 2019-2020 states, “If a student wears braids or cornrows they must be neatly groomed, attached to the scalp, and may not have any loose ends…”

In many cases, wearing these different styles makes it easier to manage natural hair. Why are these hairstyles perceived as too “informal”? What makes one hairstyle “professional” while another is unnecessarily deemed as “unprofessional?” Although to many this policy may merely seem outdated, it is difficult to understand how, in 2020, it is not inherently racist.

If worn neatly and well kept, what’s wrong with wanting to embrace your culture? We should encourage and normalize African American hairstyles just as if they were any other.



https://bestofsno.com/39528/opinions/not-just-hair-central-catholic-high-school-hair-policy/

 

[Shaka54]

I respect how those in the link below are going about getting things changed.

Not “Just Hair”: Central Catholic High School Hair Policy


The 2017/2018 Central Catholic High School Student/Parent Handbook states “…Hair must be its natural color, clean, neatly combed, not totally covering the ears or eyes, or falling below the shirt collar. Sideburns may not extend below the ear or extend forward toward the cheek. Shaved heads or hairstyles with designs, patterns, lines, weaves, spikes, braids, locks, twists, or ponytails are not permitted. Closely cut sides and top (military style) are permitted. Hair shall not exceed two and one-half inches from the scalp.

DeMatha Catholic High School, an all-boys school in Maryland, allows their students to wear braids and cornrows. The DeMatha Catholic High School Parent and Student Handbook 2019-2020 states, “If a student wears braids or cornrows they must be neatly groomed, attached to the scalp, and may not have any loose ends…”

In many cases, wearing these different styles makes it easier to manage natural hair. Why are these hairstyles perceived as too “informal”? What makes one hairstyle “professional” while another is unnecessarily deemed as “unprofessional?” Although to many this policy may merely seem outdated, it is difficult to understand how, in 2020, it is not inherently racist.

If worn neatly and well kept, what’s wrong with wanting to embrace your culture? We should encourage and normalize African American hairstyles just as if they were any other.



https://bestofsno.com/39528/opinions/not-just-hair-central-catholic-high-school-hair-policy/

An emphasis on "military style" is what they have here. It's a Catholic School so you're paying to attend. Parents aren't gonna let their son fuck off the tuition and fees that they've invested in that education.