No, they look like something from 2016. The Taycan look timeless and they have presence. The Audis are a better deal if you’re looking for a deal.The Audis are the coolest looking.
No, they look like something from 2016. The Taycan look timeless and they have presence. The Audis are a better deal if you’re looking for a deal.The Audis are the coolest looking.
No, they look like something from 2016. The Taycan look timeless and they have presence. The Audis are a better deal if you’re looking for a deal.
That second tweet is wild. I knew model Y's were selling but I didn't realize they're selling like hot cakes. Elon slashing the prices & making them eligible for the tax credits is going to make the Y jump to #1 easily.
What you saw in the video is the final version and it is currently the fastest car. They are building it now getting it ready for delivery.Is there something wrong with you?
The car IS NOT EVEN IN PRODUCTION YET.
Jesus Christ
Look, look at this car it's faster....
Rimac Nevera
They have started production and deliveries "should" happen later this year. What you saw in the video is the final version and it is currently the fastest car
It is in production thoHolla when they are MADE is my point.
Any car manufacturer can post all kinds of crazy performance stats with a single car, Tesla did the same thing.
When it's in mass production is when it counts.
I don't care if that's the "final version" currently it's NOT a production car....period
It is in production tho
Tesla recalling over 360,000 vehicles over self-driving software because of risk of crashes.....
Tesla recalls 362,000 U.S. vehicles over Full Self-Driving software
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -Tesla Inc will recall more than 362,000 U.S. vehicles to update its Full Self-Driving (FSD) Beta software after U.S. regulators said on Thursday the driver assistance system did not adequately adhere to traffic safety laws and could cause crashes. The National Highway...finance.yahoo.com
My recommendation for those who can afford it is to rent an EV for a few weeks instead of depending research alone.
It sounds like this is your first time. Are you new to Tesla? Seeing a bit of user error here which is far more common than the adverse.No offense, but this is terrible advice, especially if you're renting a Tesla.
I'm renting a model y right now. Drove it 140 mi to get to a DJ gig in Monterey. It took 170 mi off the battery. I opened the trunk and back doors to load and unload my gear. Somehow that took another 7 miles off the battery.
Also found out the hard way that you can only use Tesla's supercharger with a Tesla app. To use the app you need to own the car.
If you want to use a supercharger that's not owned by Tesla you need to order a custom adapter. Your rental probably won't have one.
You can find charging stations using the map on the chargepoint app, but most of them are unusable. The first one I drove to turned out to be on private property. Another one was at a car dealership. Many of them are in paid lots so you'll have to pay for parking along with the electricity. That can make charging just as expensive as buying gas.
Right now it's 3:46 in the morning and I'm using a charging station outside the Monterey Public Library. It's charging at 26 miles per hour and at this rate it's probably going to take at least another 3 hours before I can make it home.
So far I've paid $1.61 for 30 miles. Not a bad price, but by now I would gladly fork over $100 if it would instantly fill my battery and allow me to get my ass home.
Fucked up part is that I rented a hotel room that I won't even get to use. There's not enough time to fill up the car, drive home, fill up the car again, pick up my son this afternoon, AND sleep in a bed.
The worst part about is that I live in California, a state that supposedly has more EV charging stations than all the other states combined. I hope that's not true, because finding one has been an absolute nightmare. This is by far the worst car rental experience I've ever had!
I'm looking at a Cadillac Lyriq. Fuck Elan White Supremacist ass. I'm not dropping a dime on his shit. I used to want one, and put money down on a Cybertruck. Took my money back. Put it on the Lyriq....
The article speaks about buyer regret that some Tesla owners may have because of Elon Musk showing his true self with his
new supporters that would never buy a Tesla. You know those rednecks who park Diesel Trucks at Superchargers spots?
But even beyond that, the framework does not, from what I understand, put the consumer in real control. If you have issues
with your Tesla, you have to have Tesla itself do repair work or some things may break. For instance, if you have a salvage
Tesla or replace you battery pack at an independent shop, supercharging (not regular charging) may not be available.
I ask because as of a year ago, I was looking at purchasing a Model Y. Now, I'm more leaning toward the competition and frankly,
part of that is to not make Elon more rich. Also, I don't know how much I would like having to go to the dealer for maintenance. I rather be able to go where I want or do some work by myself.
Yes, it's my first time driving a Tesla or any EV. I rented it through Turo and the owner didn't even give me the PIN for the glove compartment let alone access to the app.It sounds like this is your first time. Are you new to Tesla? Seeing a bit of user error here which is far more common than the adverse.
You don’t need the Tesla app to use the supercharging network. You type in supercharger into your destination and a laundry list of Tesla Superchargers will display on your screen. Select the one best for you 25 mins before arrival and the car will precondition the battery for relatively quick charging.
There is no instant fill or recharge on Teslas however. This is not gas. Going from 10% to 90% will take at least 30 mins on a supercharger no matter how you slice it. This is why renting them first is ideal so you learn how to factor in charge time into your lifestyle. If that’s too much wait time, it’s best to stick with gas and keep it moving but charge time can vary by location, watt of chargers, the amount of cars charging at the same time, which bay you’re in, etc.
Also in terms of rentals and access, many Tesla owners can grant you access to the app. If not, just ask. Maybe you got the one owner that didn’t grant you access to the app, but that’s few and far between. Once granted, you phone will serve as your command center and key. I’ve experienced this one every single Tesla rental I’ve gotten. I don’t like using the key card so I always get app access so the car knows when I walk up to the door, to unlock and start because my phone is in my pocket. No tapping or console positioning required.
Again, there’s a learning curve with this car absolutely so it’s definitely best to rent them first to see if they suit your needs. If you can get over that part, these cars are some of the best on the road in my opinion.
I'm cool on the Tesla... The older I get, the more simpler I want my car/truck to be.
Facts... These youngsters now a days will get into a car with a manual transmission and look at you like, "How come it has three peddles?"This. Forever manual, preferably naturally aspirated. Trying to find a Nismo 370 Z that hasn't been beat to shit. Yall can keep this electric shit with all the driver aids.
My advice was to research and gain real life experience with the vehicle. It sounds like you found out an EV may not be for you. That was clearly the point of me saying rent one for a couple of weeks if you could afford it, so explain to me how that is bad advice? You would rather find out out a car that low end is around 30k if not used doesn't fit your lifestyle after buying it or leasing it long-term? You also didn't do any research before renting the car or you would have thought to ask about if the place had adapters in the event of you were not being able to use a supercharger.No offense, but this is terrible advice, especially if you're renting a Tesla.
I'm renting a model y right now. Drove it 140 mi to get to a DJ gig in Monterey. It took 170 mi off the battery. I opened the trunk and back doors to load and unload my gear. Somehow that took another 7 miles off the battery.
Also found out the hard way that you can only use Tesla's supercharger with a Tesla app. To use the app you need to own the car.
If you want to use a supercharger that's not owned by Tesla you need to order a custom adapter. Your rental probably won't have one.
You can find charging stations using the map on the chargepoint app, but most of them are unusable. The first one I drove to turned out to be on private property. Another one was at a car dealership. Many of them are in paid lots so you'll have to pay for parking along with the electricity. That can make charging just as expensive as buying gas.
Right now it's 3:46 in the morning and I'm using a charging station outside the Monterey Public Library. It's charging at 26 miles per hour and at this rate it's probably going to take at least another 3 hours before I can make it home.
So far I've paid $1.61 for 30 miles. Not a bad price, but by now I would gladly fork over $100 if it would instantly fill my battery and allow me to get my ass home.
Fucked up part is that I rented a hotel room that I won't even get to use. There's not enough time to fill up the car, drive home, fill up the car again, pick up my son this afternoon, AND sleep in a bed.
The worst part about is that I live in California, a state that supposedly has more EV charging stations than all the other states combined. I hope that's not true, because finding one has been an absolute nightmare. This is by far the worst car rental experience I've ever had!
My advice was to research and gain real life experience with the vehicle. It sounds like you found out an EV may not be for you. That was clearly the point of me saying rent one for a couple of weeks if you could afford it, so explain to me how that is bad advice? You would rather find out out a car that low end is around 30k if not used doesn't fit your lifestyle after buying it or leasing it long-term? You also didn't do any research before renting the car or you would have thought to ask about if the place had adapters in the event of you were not being able to use a supercharger.
You don't need the app to use the super charger. I've driven Tesla’s that I didn't own. It's never been an issue. To be fair, maybe the cars being on loan from Tesla while they had my car explains it. In theory whoever you rented the car from should have an account and you would have been using their account to use the supercharger. I've let my girl drive my car before we lived together and she didn't have the app. She was still able to use the supercharger stations.
In the DMV area, alot of the charging stations are not on paid lots. In fact, you are starting to see more charging stations at places that also serve gas. If you near a hotel or a parking garage you'd likely find working chargers. That being said ideally you'd have the best experience if you have a home charger. Like I stated before I owned my Tesla a few years before having a home charger and I've rarely had issue even with none Tesla chargers.
When you say find one, are you saying you were searching visually by driving around? In the car, you can pull up a map that will tell you the location of charging stations. If it's a supercharger station, it'll even tell you how many chargers are available. Now I've been to a station that had broken chargers, but they usually have 5 to 7. It's rare that I've seen none supercharger stations with only one charger.
I've loaded and uploaded my car alot and it's never drained the battery. Even if you had the air on, that shouldn't cause the car to lose 7 miles, but you didn't say how long you were loading or what else you were doing. Bottom line what you described likely wasn't the cause.
It's bad advice because a person could easily end up stranded.
In my case, the wedding site was about 15 miles up a winding mountain path. The spot didn't even have running water let alone a charging station.
Luckily the battery was nearly full when I left home If not I easily could have stalled out on that two-lane road and needed a tow truck to get down. Not only would that cost a shitload of money, it easily could have blocked the other vendors and guests from getting to the site which would have ruined the wedding.
Even worse, if I used that stupid chargepoint app and told the driver to take me to the closest station I would have still been screwed because the first three "available" spots they showed me weren't even accessible.
Case in point, when I left the wedding I had a range of 49 mi. By the time I actually got to charge it there was only 18 left.
It took me about 10 minutes to unload the car and 10 minutes to load it back up. Other than that the only car features I used were turn signals, headlights, the radio and climate controls. All of that is stuff that any hooptie could handle without any noticeable loss of fuel or battery power.
I left the wedding at 11:15. With any gas powered car I would have been home no later than 1:45 Plus the 5 or 10 minutes it would take to top off the tank.
Instead it's 6:30 in the morning and I still haven't been able to leave Monterey yet!
Granted, most people don't take long drives like this on a regular basis, but that's what makes your advice even worse. Someone rents it for a couple of weeks and thinks "it was so lovely using it to get to work and back I think I'll buy one."
Then they find out the truth a few months later when they decide to go camping or visit that relative that lives three states away. Find out that there's $70,000 vehicle won't even get them through a short road trip.
It's bad advice because a person could easily end up stranded.
In my case, the wedding site was about 15 miles up a winding mountain path. The spot didn't even have running water let alone a charging station.
Luckily the battery was nearly full when I left home If not I easily could have stalled out on that two-lane road and needed a tow truck to get down. Not only would that cost a shitload of money, it easily could have blocked the other vendors and guests from getting to the site which would have ruined the wedding.
Even worse, if I used that stupid chargepoint app and told the driver to take me to the closest station I would have still been screwed because the first three "available" spots they showed me weren't even accessible.
Case in point, when I left the wedding I had a range of 49 mi. By the time I actually got to charge it there was only 18 left.
It took me about 10 minutes to unload the car and 10 minutes to load it back up. Other than that the only car features I used were turn signals, headlights, the radio and climate controls. All of that is stuff that any hooptie could handle without any noticeable loss of fuel or battery power.
I left the wedding at 11:15. With any gas powered car I would have been home no later than 1:45 Plus the 5 or 10 minutes it would take to top off the tank.
Instead it's 6:30 in the morning and I still haven't been able to leave Monterey yet!
Granted, most people don't take long drives like this on a regular basis, but that's what makes your advice even worse. Someone rents it for a couple of weeks and thinks "it was so lovely using it to get to work and back I think I'll buy one."
Then they find out the truth a few months later when they decide to go camping or visit that relative that lives three states away. Find out that there's $70,000 vehicle won't even get them through a short road trip.
I'm looking at a Cadillac Lyriq. Fuck Elan White Supremacist ass. I'm not dropping died on his shit. I used to want one, and put money down on a Cybertruck. Took my money back. Put it on the Lyriq....
I have actually never heard or seen exclusive access to charge a Tesla. That simply doesn’t equate. Perhaps other Tesla owners can chime in here but that goes against the fundamental fueling/charging of the car. The glove box I can understand cause that’s where important documents are kept and an owner might not want anyone to access that, but for the charge of the car to get you from place to place and you know, run? That’s brand new to me.Yes, it's my first time driving a Tesla or any EV. I rented it through Turo and the owner didn't even give me the PIN for the glove compartment let alone access to the app.
I never thought to ask him, because the idea that you would need special permission to put fuel in your car (from a Tesla branded fuel station no less) is so baffling that it never occurred to me.
Don't get me started on that weird ass glove box pin. Most rental places want you to open the glove box so you can pull out the manual and figure out how to sync your phone without having to call them.
I was skeptical about renting any EV for a long trip until I watch the youtuber pull out his phone, open the charge point app, and say "look at how many available stations there are in this small area here." I took it for granted that those were all places you could drive up to and actually fuel up your car. Not government installations, car dealerships, gated communities, and other places with armed security guards.
To put it another way, if you had an app that showed you available gas stations, would you expect it to include an old barn with a half empty Jerry can and a farmer who shoots trespassers on site?
Right now, I would love to be able to precondition the battery, drive up to a supercharger, and fill up the car in only 30 minutes. This library is full of car campers and junkies staggering around the parking lot.
However, if this doesn't work I don't have enough range to get home and I'm not sure that I'll be able to find another accessable charging station before the battery dies. Of the six I've checked out so far I've only been able to use two of them, and the last one only added 12 miles an hour. At least this one is 26.
Right now there's 99 miles in the tank. Google maps says I'm 120 miles from home. Based on how inaccurate that battery gauge is I will probably need at least 140 miles.
With everything else that has gone wrong tonight I wouldn't be surprised if using headlights, turn signals, and air conditioning eats up another 10 miles on top of that.
I'm cool on the Tesla... The older I get, the more simpler I want my car/truck to be.
Tesla just tried to run game on me last month. They tried to get me to fix my calipers for $2000.I thought Tesla was simple as it gets. Electric motor
Simple to work on is what I'm talkin' about. If it doesn't take a 1/4 thru 15/16 socket, I ain't messing with it.I thought Tesla was simple as it gets. Electric motor
Tesla just tried to run game on me last month. They tried to get me to fix my calipers for $2000.
It's bad advice because a person could easily end up stranded.
In my case, the wedding site was about 15 miles up a winding mountain path. The spot didn't even have running water let alone a charging station.
Luckily the battery was nearly full when I left home If not I easily could have stalled out on that two-lane road and needed a tow truck to get down. Not only would that cost a shitload of money, it easily could have blocked the other vendors and guests from getting to the site which would have ruined the wedding.
Even worse, if I used that stupid chargepoint app and told the driver to take me to the closest station I would have still been screwed because the first three "available" spots they showed me weren't even accessible.
Case in point, when I left the wedding I had a range of 49 mi. By the time I actually got to charge it there was only 18 left.
It took me about 10 minutes to unload the car and 10 minutes to load it back up. Other than that the only car features I used were turn signals, headlights, the radio and climate controls. All of that is stuff that any hooptie could handle without any noticeable loss of fuel or battery power.
I left the wedding at 11:15. With any gas powered car I would have been home no later than 1:45 Plus the 5 or 10 minutes it would take to top off the tank.
Instead it's 6:30 in the morning and I still haven't been able to leave Monterey yet!
Granted, most people don't take long drives like this on a regular basis, but that's what makes your advice even worse. Someone rents it for a couple of weeks and thinks "it was so lovely using it to get to work and back I think I'll buy one."
Then they find out the truth a few months later when they decide to go camping or visit that relative that lives three states away. Find out that there's $70,000 vehicle won't even get them through a short road trip.
Respectful your experience was due to poor planning and research on your part. The point of renting is to have personal experience vs taking others experience or opinions based on what they believe/heard.
If you got the car from Turro, why haven't you reached out to the owner about not being able to access the supercharger stations? Why didn't you ask the owner if they had an adapter? Have you checked the truck? I don’t know that you have access to the glovebox. If so, did you check the glovebox? On your end, you could download the app yourself and ask the owner to add you as a driver. Again, I'm not aware of any reason you'd need the app to use the charger. It could be that the person is being blocked from using them or they don't have a card on file with their account. You creating your own account and asking the owner to send you an invite to access the car may resolve the issue assuming Tesla isn’t blocking them from the stations.
If you are taking a long trip, the nav literally puts you on a path of chargers and recommends stops based the distance to the next charger. At worse, your trip could be longer staying on the recommended route. You didn't need to use the chargepoint app to begin with. Your issue doesn't seem to be necessarily a lack of Superchargers but not having access to the network or an adapter for non Tesla fast charger.if you could fast charge, you'd likely have 100 miles in 20 odd minutes if that. Again, most people are aware that charging an EV takes longer that pumping gas.
Most people who decide to buy an EV research owning the car, so the likelihood of someone buying an EV and not being very knowledgeable about the lack of EV stations compared to gas stations would be shocking. One of the first things you'd learn is that not all stations use the same type of charger. Even using your example, having the car for a few weeks you may discover the fact that not all chargers use the same adopter and buy one with the car. At one point, adapters were included with the car. Again, that's the point of gaining your own personal experience.learning the pros and cons of ownership.
Loading the vehicle had nothing to do with losing 7 miles. The climate control is what likely reduced the mileage. Even with that, I don't know that it would cause you 7 miles. Having the security features on could also drain the battery. In this thread you were warned about losing miles due to using the climate control. Using the climate control in a gas car also uses gas.
Last I checked, people have gotten themselves stranded with gas cars. It's the same reason it would happen in an EV. the driver was not paying attention, got lost or planned poorly. The only and admittedly biggest difference is there are far more gas stations which should reduce being stranded from lack of fuel. You're speaking as if EVs don't indicate how many miles you have remaining. You would not be surprised and I'd think you'd plan more or decide against using an EV if you are going to remote areas that may lack many gas stations let alone EV stations.
What does that even mean? You thought they were cool and you the only one that was gonna have one?
Grow up dude. You sound like a kid.
Get what you really like. You never really liked them.
Quiet is kept, I actually liked Papa Johns pizza, and I know a lot of people who are now saying it tastes
bad, but go back to 2010, and what people were saying then. Not a peep of that.
When the news came out that dude was raising prices and reducing workers benefits because of ACA but really Obama,
I ended that real quick. And that's just a $10 pizza, not a $60k car.
Simple to work on is what I'm talkin' about. If it doesn't take a 1/4 thru 15/16 socket, I ain't messing with it.
I need to be able to pull it up in my yard broken; and then be able to pull it out of my yard fixed without dealer assistance.
Respectful your experience was due to poor planning and research on your part. The point of renting is to have personal experience vs taking others experience or opinions based on what they believe/heard.
If you got the car from Turro, why haven't you reached out to the owner about not being able to access the supercharger stations? Why didn't you ask the owner if they had an adapter? Have you checked the truck? I don’t know that you have access to the glovebox. If so, did you check the glovebox? On your end, you could download the app yourself and ask the owner to add you as a driver. Again, I'm not aware of any reason you'd need the app to use the charger. It could be that the person is being blocked from using them or they don't have a card on file with their account. You creating your own account and asking the owner to send you an invite to access the car may resolve the issue assuming Tesla isn’t blocking them from the stations.
If you are taking a long trip, the nav literally puts you on a path of chargers and recommends stops based the distance to the next charger. At worse, your trip could be longer staying on the recommended route. You didn't need to use the chargepoint app to begin with. Your issue doesn't seem to be necessarily a lack of Superchargers but not having access to the network or an adapter for non Tesla fast charger.if you could fast charge, you'd likely have 100 miles in 20 odd minutes if that. Again, most people are aware that charging an EV takes longer that pumping gas.
Most people who decide to buy an EV research owning the car, so the likelihood of someone buying an EV and not being very knowledgeable about the lack of EV stations compared to gas stations would be shocking. One of the first things you'd learn is that not all stations use the same type of charger. Even using your example, having the car for a few weeks you may discover the fact that not all chargers use the same adopter and buy one with the car. At one point, adapters were included with the car. Again, that's the point of gaining your own personal experience.learning the pros and cons of ownership.
Loading the vehicle had nothing to do with losing 7 miles. The climate control is what likely reduced the mileage. Even with that, I don't know that it would cause you 7 miles. Having the security features on could also drain the battery. In this thread you were warned about losing miles due to using the climate control. Using the climate control in a gas car also uses gas.
Last I checked, people have gotten themselves stranded with gas cars. It's the same reason it would happen in an EV. the driver was not paying attention, got lost or planned poorly. The only and admittedly biggest difference is there are far more gas stations which should reduce being stranded from lack of fuel. You're speaking as if EVs don't indicate how many miles you have remaining. You would not be surprised and I'd think you'd plan more or decide against using an EV if you are going to remote areas that may lack many gas stations let alone EV stations.