I dont give a damn who is fat anymore. I just make sure I'm not.
That is your single experience though breh and it is a very biased one.Lizzo's not my type, but I like big women. Certainly wouldn't boo or shame somebody for being a little fat.
But you got to treat them like jump offs. Even if you love them.
Otherwise you have to give up your life to wait hand and foot on someone dying of preventable illness. Give up that New York City vacation because your partner can't walk more than three blocks without getting winded. Have your partner throw a temper tantrum every time a skinnier woman so much as smiles at you. Or have them take every health goal you have as a personal insult.
I dated one fat woman who lived in a second story walk up apartment. One day she asks me to take out the trash. We've been seeing each other for a few months and she certainly done some things for me so it wasn't an unreasonable request.
I asked her for the bags and she told me they were already outside. Get back there and find out that she's been tossing trash bags off the balcony into the back yard. The bags are split open and there's garbage falling out.
I go to her like WTF. She shrugs her shoulders and says "I've never had one break before."
That's the reality of being so unhealthy you can't take a week's worth of garbage down the steps by yourself.
Y'all can accept that if you want, but I won't.
Because white and spanish men don't want them so the bottom barrel men are like water finding their own level.Let's be real if she's white or white looking Hispanic a lot of these BGOL dudes will WORSHIP her even at 250lbs.
Co-sign. I’m all for body positivity but it’s gotten way out of hand. We used to acknowledge that people were fat. You can be talented and fat. Even big people like comedians and actors used to be accepting of their condition. And we never had debates like this because it was understood. This “movement” is about denying reality. It’s the same with transgender crap as well but back on topic. At the end of the day it’s a health issue. Obesity leads to serious issues. You will be laid up in a hospital all the way up to the end of your short life. And like u said, I don’t know why big people get all mad because they can’t do skinny people shit. Being fat limits your life. And I’m not even talking bout goin to the gym or hiking and doing outdoor stuff together. I grew up with fat people in my family. It’s a struggle to walk up stairs or even TIE shoelaces! The list of basic every day things that are difficult or impossible to do due to excessive weight is long. I’m not fat and I know I never will be. It’s not even about keeping a 6 pack or whatever anymore it’s all about longevity. I want to be around for as long as I can for my folk. Especially my kids. You would think everyone could agree on this but instead we have to cater to people’s stupid little fantasies and emotional shortcomings.Lizzo's not my type, but I like big women. Certainly wouldn't boo or shame somebody for being a little fat.
But you got to treat them like jump offs. Even if you love them.
Otherwise you have to give up your life to wait hand and foot on someone dying of preventable illness. Give up that New York City vacation because your partner can't walk more than three blocks without getting winded. Have your partner throw a temper tantrum every time a skinnier woman so much as smiles at you. Or have them take every health goal you have as a personal insult.
I dated one fat woman who lived in a second story walk up apartment. One day she asks me to take out the trash. We've been seeing each other for a few months and she certainly done some things for me so it wasn't an unreasonable request.
I asked her for the bags and she told me they were already outside. Get back there and find out that she's been tossing trash bags off the balcony into the back yard. The bags are split open and there's garbage falling out.
I go to her like WTF. She shrugs her shoulders and says "I've never had one break before."
That's the reality of being so unhealthy you can't take a week's worth of garbage down the steps by yourself.
Y'all can accept that if you want, but I won't.
That is your single experience though breh and it is a very biased one.
It's also disingenuous to loop in your fling as the overall experience.
Again, at the core men are upset because they can't treat them as jumps off as easily. Thats just weird behavior and borderline jealousy.
I think this is where the issue lies.
Can we be honest and say that at the core, the issue is that men where used to treating bigger women like jump offs and are annoyed/upset because they can't as easy anymore?
Ask yourself why a big girl like Lizzo should be booed off stage when she's actually talented and pretty?
Like, yall can't be mad because these girls are being propped up lol
Just saying I've seen men legit get angry because a big girl they have no intent on dating or even fucking is getting attention from other men
Co-sign. I’m all for body positivity but it’s gotten way out of hand. We used to acknowledge that people were fat. You can be talented and fat. Even big people like comedians and actors used to be accepting of their condition. And we never had debates like this because it was understood. This “movement” is about denying reality. It’s the same with transgender crap as well but back on topic. At the end of the day it’s a health issue. Obesity leads to serious issues. You will be laid up in a hospital all the way up to the end of your short life. And like u said, I don’t know why big people get all mad because they can’t do skinny people shit. Being fat limits your life. And I’m not even talking bout goin to the gym or hiking and doing outdoor stuff together. I grew up with fat people in my family. It’s a struggle to walk up stairs or even TIE shoelaces! The list of basic every day things that are difficult or impossible to do due to excessive weight is long. I’m not fat and I know I never will be. It’s not even about keeping a 6 pack or whatever anymore it’s all about longevity. I want to be around for as long as I can for my folk. Especially my kids. You would think everyone could agree on this but instead we have to cater to people’s stupid little fantasies and emotional shortcomings.
She's not ugly, just fat. But it is subjective I guess.You said Lizzo is pretty?
She's not ugly, just fat. But it is subjective I guess.
BGOL hate fat women but Pinky has a thread constantly being bumped.
Thecoli has a hate for fat women too but Lizzo is constantly front page.
I'm one of those guys, but at least my lady cute in the face with a nice shape. My wife was a stunner when I met her, and even after our 1st baby. After the 2nd she stopped giving a damn, and after the 3rd I lost hope. I still enjoy her tho.Niggas be married to and laid up at night beside some of these sows that they claim to despise.
I'm one of those guys, but at least my lady cute in the face with a nice shape. My wife was a stunner when I met her, and even after our 1st baby. After the 2nd she stopped giving a damn, and after the 3rd I lost hope. I still enjoy her tho.
I dont mind owning it, because while she has decided not to give a fuck, I am in pretty good shape for a mf about to be 40 in December. Me and her went out to my homeboy wife birthday party, and I saw they homegirls eyes on ME.That might be true but yeen never been in these threads bitchin' and moanin' about these heauxs and their weight or acting as if they're all that's wrong with da world or da Black community, so there's that. Besides that, at least you'll own da shit.
Lizzo's not my type, but I like big women. Certainly wouldn't boo or shame somebody for being a little fat.
But you got to treat them like jump offs. Even if you love them.
Otherwise you have to give up your life to wait hand and foot on someone dying of preventable illness. Give up that New York City vacation because your partner can't walk more than three blocks without getting winded. Have your partner throw a temper tantrum every time a skinnier woman so much as smiles at you. Or have them take every health goal you have as a personal insult.
I dated one fat woman who lived in a second story walk up apartment. One day she asks me to take out the trash. We've been seeing each other for a few months and she certainly done some things for me so it wasn't an unreasonable request.
I asked her for the bags and she told me they were already outside. Get back there and find out that she's been tossing trash bags off the balcony into the back yard. The bags are split open and there's garbage falling out.
I go to her like WTF. She shrugs her shoulders and says "I've never had one break before."
That's the reality of being so unhealthy you can't take a week's worth of garbage down the steps by yourself.
Y'all can accept that if you want, but I won't.
Obesity is a lot like debt.
When you meet a girl at the club and take her home it doesn't matter how much money she owes. It's not your problem.
However, if you wife up a woman with lots of debt it might as well be yours.
You're trying to go on a vacation, go to a concert, weekend getaway, whatever but your lady can't go because her check got garnished too hard. Now you either have to pay for her or go alone
Or maybe she gets evicted from her apartment now she wants to move in with you at a time when you're really not ready.
Her car breaks down, she needs a new one, now she's putting the pressure on you to cosign.
You want to buy a house together but get denied a mortgage because of her credit history.
People going to debt for all kinds of reasons many of which are not fair. That's why I don't believe and ridiculing women for being broke. Especially if they're doing everything they can to dig themselves out of the hole.
However I'm not trying to curtail my own financial goals and activities because of my partner's situation. Especially if they're doing things to make it worse!
Can you imagine if our society pushed debt acceptance the way it pushes fat acceptance? People bragging about being bankrupt. You tell someone to seek out credit counseling and they accuse you of debt shaming? Compulsive gamblers talking about how they lost money "like a boss". People flossing on Instagram with the bills in their mailbox instead of the bills in their wallet.
I really hope that's not where this is going.
Pioneers in fat acceptance, those cows will never know how much work this site has put in over the years to convince people that having sex with a farm animal is something to brag about.
BGOL hate fat women but Pinky has a thread constantly being bumped.
Thecoli has a hate for fat women too but Lizzo is constantly front page.
I think this is where the issue lies.
Can we be honest and say that at the core, the issue is that men where used to treating bigger women like jump offs and are annoyed/upset because they can't as easy anymore?
Ask yourself why a big girl like Lizzo should be booed off stage when she's actually talented and pretty?
Like, yall can't be mad because these girls are being propped up lol
Just saying I've seen men legit get angry because a big girl they have no intent on dating or even fucking is getting attention from other men
You actually make some very good points. It seems like you have put some thought into the issue and have experience as well. I think this is a subject that requires more than superficial thinking, which I don't often see around here, as there are many facets to consider. Every situation is unique.
I was there for most of the fat acceptance movement. I was still a kid when BBW mag launched in 1979, but it was all within my life time. Basically what women wanted were fashionable clothing, including active wear, and to not be thought less intelligent, less worthy of promotions at work, confidence to pursue and accept romance, not to be accept poor treatment because of their weight, and the ability to basically live their lives out in the open without shame. The message was that personal worth and your value as a human being didn't go down as your dress size went up. Women wanted to escape a life of polyester pants and muumuus. Women had money to spend and no place to buy what they wanted. Active healthy lifestyles were always emphasized, but it was hard to find someone that catered to large women. If they wanted to get in shape, workout clothes may not be available in their size. If they go to the gym they'd get looks of disgust. They go for a walk they'd get looks of and disgust, possibly ridiculed. People are often willing to comment on weight the way they won't comment for anything else. There was no place modifying exercises for larger bodies so women didn't get injured. Fat women eventually put out their own content like Yoga for Round Bodies etc. The initial message was basically not to stop living your life, not to go into hiding, disappear or be erased. It was about a quality life, mental health, self esteem, self worth etc. Keep in mind often women had tried for YEARS to lose weight. If you have insulin resistance, the diets recommended at the time were actual sabotaging women. Aktins was around but it wasn't seen as medically sound. Women had experienced weight going up and down, so being able to make the best of the situation after they had tried and failed to change was the solution they came up with to keep engaged in life. The emphasis was on an active lifestyle, healthy eating that didn't involve starving, and letting the weight settle where it may.
This has morphed a bit. There are militants in the community that see any suggestion of losing weight as being anti-fat people. They have IMO, distorted the message of body positivity. One of my favorite bbw fashion bloggers CeCe https://ceceolisa.com/ had always been physically active. When she started losing weight some of the body positivity community came for her, said she wasn't being supportive and causing harm.
She did another video also about losing weight and staying "body positive"
Lizzo is a mixed bag. I love her confidence, tho you can tell she still struggles with her self esteem. I think she is pretty and I love her smile. I only watched the first one or two episodes of her Amazon show, but she emphasized fitness. When one of the contestants was out of breath performing, that was something that was addressed and one of the reasons they were eliminated. Keep in mind they are exercising when doing stage shows and for hours in rehearsals, and Lizzo has to be able to move and sing at the same time in an hour+ show. So whatever is going on with her weight it is not due to lack of activity. As she gets older tho, the weight will become an issue. You can't stay young forever. Now things she does like showing up ass out at a sports game, a family gathering basically, was in poor taste. BUT, IMO, it would have been in poor taste for a skinny woman, too. The push back she got on that, should have been given, but people wanted to levy insults about her weight when the focus should have been what is classy vs uncouth regardless of size.
One thing I've learned from watching 600 lb life is that most people with weight problems are using food for some sort of coping mechanism. Many were sexually, mentally or physically abused. They had some sort of trauma they never got over. Stress eating. Depression. Black people in general and black women specifically, are some of the most unprotected in this country. It's no wonder we have more issues than most to overcome. Single motherhood, money woes etc. People can be in depression for years and when they come out of it and realize what they have done to their lives or the bodies, it can be something that overwhelms and sends into another bout of depression. I think black people have higher obesity rates because of the stress and struggles that we have to deal with in general and with the added stress of racism. Some people turn to alcohol, drugs, food, sex or any number of habits to compensate. Food is not like drugs or those other habits. You HAVE to eat. I never thought I had an emotional trigger because aside from stress or depression, I didn't have any of those issues. Nothing seemed to trigger me. I don't eat much in one sitting. I'm not eating 9 pizzas at a time, 5 times a day. I get full on regular sized meals. I can go hours or all day without eating with no discomfort. On the rare occasion I had just eaten, was full and still hungry I would stop and ask myself why. Initially I thought I was just eating poorly and missing nutrients so I would take my vitamins etc, but I did discover I have a couple of triggers also. I may also eat multiple times a day, or right before I go to bed when I'm not going to burn the calories.
Other things women have to deal with is the change in attitude from others when you do lose weight. You may have been getting pressured to do so for years, but in some relationships, others self worth is based on the fat person being beneath them, so when they start to lose weight, especially if it results in getting more positive attention, it is often seen as a threat. (Yeah so and so is pretty and has money and has xyz, but they are fat.) I've been on discussion forums where boyfriends and husbands start buying sweets, telling the woman she is losing too much, accusing them of getting ready to leave them. Planning dates when they know she works out, etc. Just straight sabotage. Family members and friends may become less friendly. Women trying to lose weight are made to feel problematic if they do special food orders to avoid something they can't have or if they turn down a dessert (One bite won't hurt you). Or they turn into the food police every time you take a bite (Are you supposed to be eating that.) People may SAY they want XYZ for you, but their actions speak otherwise and even things said and done with good intention can cause added stress.
All that aside, we also have to deal with chemicals in foods. Hidden carbs etc. Advertising is designed to have you buy and eat more. Stuff I've covered elsewhere.
I will say I really felt the point you made about vacations etc. My stamina isn't exactly what it used to be. However, you could have an accident or knee injury that puts you in the exact same position in an instant. That said, making a decision not to get involved with someone because of those considerations is a perceptive I hadn't considered before, and has given me food
for thought. I think that scenario of what amounts to being a "burden" on someone is there simply because of aging and illness in general, regardless of weight involved. I've had to care for loved ones though. I know how it can reduce your ability to be mobile and carefree, as you basically have to structure your life around being available to see to their needs. It's not easy, but if I had to do it all over again I would. Anyway it was nice to see a perspective about obesity that didn't simply come down to women being lazy or not giving a damn.
Nonsense..you'll see Spanish dudes with the bottom of the barrel white chics as well.Because white and spanish men don't want them so the bottom barrel men are like water finding their own level.
Pioneers in fat acceptance, those cows will never know how much work this site has put in over the years to convince people that having sex with a farm animal is something to brag about.
Why are you assuming bottom barrel dudes are black???? Shit, there are a ton of white bottom-barrel dudes who fuck with fat chicks also.Nonsense..you'll see Spanish dudes with the bottom of the barrel white chics as well.
I'll say more often than not. I see white dude (below average or not) with average to above average black chics.
Which means there are a lot if black folk running away from each other.
No shit..Why are you assuming bottom barrel dudes are black???? Shit, there are a ton of white bottom-barrel dudes who fuck with fat chicks also.
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